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Scott Smith Harms

Posted 2009-03-30 10:56 AM (#168770)
Subject: 1957 Plymouth 2 Door Suburban Wagon - IT RUNS!

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I bought this beast from friend in Arizona about 5 years ago. After dragging it home from Arizona to Spokane I put it out back in "cold storage" After going to the Las Vegas MopaVegas and seeing some cool old cars running around I came home with a new burst of motivation. I conned a local buddy (Ralph) into to comming over to help me unearth the car from the back 40 last weekend, we drug it out to the front of the house where I can work on it. The tires held air for a few hours and are now flat agian, no big deal, needs new rubber anyway.

The biggest concern was the original 301 poly head engines health, I bought it not knowing (or caring) if it ran. the gas tank and fuel system will need to be delt with, as well as the other crusty wear parts like brakes, hoses, belts, etc. The ignition key was MIA so I pulled the ign switch and had a key made.

Anyway, I go out, pop the hood, add a missing pos battery cable and a fresh battery, unhooked the fuel line, checked the oil (looked ok, just black) dumped some fuel in the carb and tried the key. After about 3 seconds of cranking it fired right up and ran like a sewing machine, smooth and quiet!

I couldn't believe it ran so good after sitting for so many years (probably 25-30 years or so!) I plan on addressing the issues mentioned above this week. Hopefully with no surprises I'll have the old sled back on the road again for some summertime Rat Rod cruising. I'll add upgrades as time & funds allow, but for now it'll be cool putting around town in a 52 year old Plymouth

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Posted 2009-03-30 10:58 AM (#168771 - in reply to #168770)
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Here's the engine, I plan on removing the non functioning (dealer added?) air conditioning setup

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Posted 2009-03-30 11:04 AM (#168772 - in reply to #168771)
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Posted 2009-03-30 11:33 AM (#168774 - in reply to #168772)
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Good deal man. I love the "plane brown wrapper" look. Drop me a PM if your interested in parting with that A/C system.

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Posted 2009-03-30 11:54 AM (#168775 - in reply to #168774)
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Yea, it was originally an all white car with the B&W interior. Someone painted it brown eons ago so there she sits. I'll probably go back to white or some other stock color, not sure yet. The AC stuff....I'll let you know, when I get it all out I'll get some pics. It's pretty cool, the under dash unit is a monster!

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Posted 2009-03-30 12:05 PM (#168776 - in reply to #168775)
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Although the car is from a very dry climate and has no outer body rust, the floor pans did not fair so well under the rubber floor mats. Does anyone make quality floor pans for these?

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Posted 2009-03-30 12:05 PM (#168777 - in reply to #168775)
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Good deal...Glad to hear it runs ok....Looks to be pretty solid also.....Nice find indeed...

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Posted 2009-03-30 2:15 PM (#168790 - in reply to #168777)
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The floor pans for the seating area are basically interchangable with passenger car pieces. They are slightly different but will work. The rear cargo area is wagon-specific.

Looks good, I've got a beater '57 wagon too.

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Posted 2009-03-30 4:33 PM (#168798 - in reply to #168770)
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How did you resist working on this wagon? It is much more solid than many others that have been brought back to life. You have the makings of a very cool old rig..............MO

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Posted 2009-03-30 5:20 PM (#168807 - in reply to #168770)
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Scott, the condition of that right rear wheel might explain its inability to hold air.

You might really luck out and find that a new aftermarket A/C compressor, and drier, etc., might be all that you need,
to restore the A/C system to life.

Be sure to drain and clean ALL of its fluids-lubricants.

Nice score!

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Posted 2009-03-30 5:57 PM (#168809 - in reply to #168807)
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2DR Suburban, what a rare car

Looks very solid, I think its cool the way it is now - also 57burb's Plymouth looks awesome with those Kelsey Heyes wheels...

I'm not neutral when I say station wagons are the finest FL's ever made, you couldn't buy a bigger station wagon in 1957 from anywhere, for any price - that was the slogan at 1957. They really offer so much room, are very usable and reliable, and cool same way as pick-up trucks. What could be a finer car for shopping trips during the week and pick-nick's during the weekend?

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Posted 2009-03-30 6:56 PM (#168821 - in reply to #168770)
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I have the same car, only a 58. I'm in the process of doing floorboards right now. Those rubber floor mats suck!! I'm using repro floor pans from RCAR Fabrications. He lists on ebay sometimes, or you can order from his website. I feel his quality is better than anything else available for us. There is another fellow who sell on ebay, but I heard bad things about his product. My project snowballed, floorboards to seat supports and support braces to inner rockers to door sill replacement. Yeesh, thank god I have friends/cousins who weld........Ralph from Brooklyn

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Posted 2009-03-30 7:32 PM (#168825 - in reply to #168770)
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my jalopy........well in appearance anyway......rebuilt 318, powerflite, frontend, leafsprings, disc brake conversion.......Ralph from Brooklyn

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Posted 2009-03-30 8:24 PM (#168832 - in reply to #168825)
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WOW! Cool bunch of cars and comments, thanks guys!

Thanks for the leads on floor pan sheet metal, mine is just bad in the very lowest foot well areas up front, everything else including the rockers, rear uper deck, and rear storage well are mint.

I pulled the gas tank today (NASTY!) but it's in good shape, a boil out and a new sending unit and it should be good as new. I do plan on a complete fluid change (front to back) as well as a round of belts, hoses, brake soft lines, etc. All of it is dry and weather checked (as are the tires which is why they are all flat) rims are the originals and mint, no rust or dents.

I discovered that the original color on the car is actually a light "Easter Egg" blue (not white as I originally thought) and it had a black and white interior. After I get the tank back in and the rest of the fuel system up to par I'm going to tackle the brakes (should be fun).

I also have a 58, original red car with a 3 speed on the column and a flat head 6. I bought it as a parts car for the 57 but couldn't bring myself to butcher it so I collected all the parts to get it back together, fenders, hood, inner fenders, rad support, NOS taillamps, grille, rear side glass, etc. No engine or trans though. Not sure if I'll ever have the time or money to do it but at least it's safe for the next guy

Cheers!
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Posted 2009-03-30 8:32 PM (#168834 - in reply to #168832)
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Are you located IN Spokane ?

I am surprised I have not stumbled onto this car for all the driving I do.

Another Spokanistaner.

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Posted 2009-03-30 8:37 PM (#168836 - in reply to #168834)
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Yep, on E.Broadway just East or Argonne, can't miss the driveway

BTW, who sells the reproduction 57/58 Fury Side Mouldings?

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Posted 2009-03-31 1:56 AM (#168870 - in reply to #168836)
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Very nice wagon, dude! And it started right up, you can't beat this old iron. I got floor pans and rockers from another guy on eBay, nice price and good quality, sells under the name of scopans23.

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Posted 2009-03-31 2:35 AM (#168873 - in reply to #168870)
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I couldn't find any sellers by the name (scopans23) but I found this guy

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SEAT-FLOOR-PANS-CHRYSLER-DODGE-PLYMO...

Are his any good? How's the price?

Thanks!

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Posted 2009-03-31 3:02 AM (#168874 - in reply to #168873)
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Scott Smith Harms - 2009-03-30 11:35 PM I couldn't find any sellers by the name (scopans23) but I found this guy http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SEAT-FLOOR-PANS-CHRYSLER-DODGE-PLYMO... Are his any good? How's the price? Thanks!

You know I was just coming back to the forum to edit my post! This is the guy I bought from, sorry, old age is taking its toll on me! lol The outer rockers and front floor pans I bought for my '56 Dodge CRL are very nice, good thickness, and didn't come with surface rust all over them. I am very happy with their stuff so far. Email them to see if they have anything you need. I think he's cheaper than RCAR, but seemed a fair price for what I could find around and they came quickly and in excellent shape, so I'd recommend them.

Jay

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Posted 2009-03-31 7:43 AM (#168877 - in reply to #168770)
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Just for grins, when you do your oil/filter change, substitute a quart of "Rislone" for a quart of oil...and do it at every oil change for about six times. It will dissolve the varnish and slude so that nothing chunks off and plugs a lifter. Great stuff...

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Posted 2009-03-31 9:19 AM (#168880 - in reply to #168770)
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howdy scott... welcome to the suburban club... as far as the rubber floor coverings go, no one reproduces them because no one apparently likes them... my rubber on the back floor is fabulous (no one ever sat in the back of my wagon) but the front floor rubber is gone... the rubber is bad for rust and i was given the advise of ripping up the rubber and putting carpet in... although i would use the rubber for the floors if i could get it... the only rust my sub has is in the rear wheel well... fab wagons you've got there and the 2-doors are rare... you'll have to go out and find a '59 2-door sub now... cheers adriana

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Posted 2009-03-31 10:01 AM (#168881 - in reply to #168770)
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Cool car!! I love it's look as it is right now... Ralph & Scott did you know Alan Ralston in MN is reproducing the seat and under floor support channels for '57-59 FLs? He has a fleet of '59 DeSotos.

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Posted 2009-03-31 12:23 PM (#168886 - in reply to #168836)
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Scott Smith Harms - 2009-03-30 8:37 PM

BTW, who sells the reproduction 57/58 Fury Side Mouldings?

There's a member that sells the inserts for the '57-'58 mnBelvy/Fury that isn't an EXACT copy, but are made out of Mylar...The guy on the Christine Car Club that was selling the METAL inserts no longer does...He went by "Wayne" here....

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Posted 2009-03-31 12:24 PM (#168887 - in reply to #168881)
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I need that contact info for the floor support channels, I don't think I'll need them but just in case..... I got a quote for the 6 piece floor pans from the ebay guy, he said $407.00 for all 6 plus shipping, doesn't seem to bad I guess. The real shocker was the bill for boiling out the gas tank...$150.00! Geez! I could almost buy a new tank for that ifI could find one.

Thanks for all your help and advice guys (and gals), this is my first 50's car, it's been 60's muscle cars for me since day one, I'm on a steep learning curve.

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Posted 2009-03-31 1:00 PM (#168888 - in reply to #168887)
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I'm going to need pretty much every rubber seal for this old girl too (the arizona sun is kind to sheet metal but brutal on anything soft). Sliding side glass rubber runs, rear side glass surround seals, door seals, door glass run seals, rear tail gate rubber as well as the tail gate glass "squeegee" rubber. Does anyone reproduce proper replacements?

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Posted 2009-03-31 1:55 PM (#168891 - in reply to #168770)
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Nice find, Scott.

These wagons, being sold as utilitarian vehicles had a low survival rate, as they were not pampered. Rubber floor mats hastened their demise also.

I picked this one up from a yard in the bay area several years ago. ---John

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Posted 2009-03-31 2:17 PM (#168893 - in reply to #168891)
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That's a cool one! Funny, I went to High School in Willows, my family farmed rice.

What model/year is yours? I like the paint scheme, looks sharp!

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Posted 2009-03-31 4:19 PM (#168899 - in reply to #168888)
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Scott Smith Harms - 2009-03-31 12:00 PM

I'm going to need pretty much every rubber seal for this old girl too (the arizona sun is kind to sheet metal but brutal on anything soft). Sliding side glass rubber runs, rear side glass surround seals, door seals, door glass run seals, rear tail gate rubber as well as the tail gate glass "squeegee" rubber. Does anyone reproduce proper replacements?

No one "makes" that stuff per se, but you can use generic stock to rebuild most of the rubber parts you need.

I have a local supplier that deals with restorers nationally, maybe you can call and request a catalog, or see if they recommend someone in your area.

http://www.jandjsupply.net/

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Posted 2009-03-31 4:50 PM (#168903 - in reply to #168770)
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Great story, Scott. It's fantastic when an old engine comes to life and works well. Good luck.---Fred

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Posted 2009-03-31 5:29 PM (#168911 - in reply to #168903)
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Sure an easy car to work on, everything is simple and easy to get at although I have tried the oil filter yet. I have the air conditioning parts under the hood pulled now, came off really easy, no buggered up parts. Sent the radiator out for a boil and pressure check, dropped off the gas tank at the same shop (2 week wait! Man we need another rad shop who can boil gas thanks in this town). Parts adding up fast, Gen belt, upper & lower rad hoses, bypass hose, heater hose, oil filter canister refill thermostat = $94.00 at NAPA today. I may as well put a water pump and a fuel pump on while it's appart, that'll probably be another $75.00 or so. Oh well, price you pay for dependable crusing I guess.

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Posted 2009-04-01 12:13 AM (#168942 - in reply to #168911)
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What shop is boiling your gas tank ? I need to do that on our wagon too.

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Posted 2009-04-01 12:32 AM (#168944 - in reply to #168942)
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Posted 2009-04-01 8:56 AM (#168958 - in reply to #168770)
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For the inserts your looking for the guy that sells them goes by the name "furyjim" (Jim Rawa) and can be contacted through here
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Or PM me for his email address as I don't know if he would want it posted in public or not.

Here is an example of his stuff.

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Posted 2009-04-01 10:27 AM (#168967 - in reply to #168944)
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Thanks, Scott. I drive by Corky's all the time.

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Posted 2009-04-01 11:31 AM (#168973 - in reply to #168967)
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You have to pay attention with them though, he quoted me $150.00 on the phone then quickly made it "About" $200.00 when he saw it (and it didn't look all that bad IMO). I guess it's a good thing, at least I shouldn't need a new tank which may cost more, and I don't want to pull the tank out of the 58, rather leave it intact.

BTW, does anyone have a good pic of the factory correct gas cap? I've seen a bunch of styles and am looking for the factory correct unit.

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Posted 2009-04-01 11:47 AM (#168974 - in reply to #168888)
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Scott Smith Harms - 2009-03-31 10:00 AM I'm going to need pretty much every rubber seal for this old girl too (the arizona sun is kind to sheet metal but brutal on anything soft). Sliding side glass rubber runs, rear side glass surround seals, door seals, door glass run seals, rear tail gate rubber as well as the tail gate glass "squeegee" rubber. Does anyone reproduce proper replacements?

Scott, same problem with my '56 CRL, darn sun here just turns all rubber to stone! lol The windshield and rear window glass gasket just broke apart in pieces when trying to get the glass out. Walt here found a place for the moulded corner window gaskets for my car. I'm trying to list all the grommets and other rubber items I'll need since I've stripped the body for repaint and might as well replace them now.

$150 to boil out a gas tank was close to what I was quoted around here, though someone my neighbor does biz with qouted me $80 since I was a friend of his.

Your build is coming good man. Keep the updates coming.

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Posted 2009-04-01 3:15 PM (#168983 - in reply to #168770)
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Scott (duh); be sure to drop the oil pan, too, and the trans pan.

Pan gaskets should be readily available, but "Northwest Transmission" (in Cincinnati!) will have a trannie gasket, for sure.

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Posted 2009-04-01 4:52 PM (#168993 - in reply to #168983)
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d500neil - 2009-04-02 1:15 PM

Scott (duh); be sure to drop the oil pan, too, and the trans pan.

Pan gaskets should be readily available, but "Northwest Transmission" (in Cincinnati!) will have a trannie gasket, for sure.

The oil pan? Why? That could be a real PIA!

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Posted 2009-04-01 4:54 PM (#168994 - in reply to #168770)
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I got the air conditioning stuff off the engine along with the other old rubber. AC stuff came of nice, no broken or screwed up parts, put caps on all the open ends and tucked it in the shop to stay dry.

Any good sources for wiring for these cars or willI have to re-make it all on my own? Everything works but all of the under hood wireing is old, hard, and has chunks of the insulation breaking off.

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Posted 2009-04-02 1:53 PM (#169092 - in reply to #168770)
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Scott, for some rubber weatherstripping products, check Gary Goers, he has some station wagon stuff, not the sliding glass guides but tailgate stuff and door weatherstrip. check his website and mail away for a catalog.....Ralph from Brooklyn

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Posted 2009-04-02 1:59 PM (#169094 - in reply to #168770)
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I think our cars are originally the same color...Bluebonnet Blue is what I,ve heard. I've recently painted my roof Iceberg White, because I couldn't stand to look at the surface rust anymore and I'm gonna 2 tone it anyway....Ralph from Brooklyn

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Posted 2009-04-02 3:26 PM (#169106 - in reply to #169092)
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Thanks Ralph,

Yes, my car was definately a pale blue (like robins egg/pastel blue with no metallics). Looked just like this one:

More questions:

Mine's missing the side trim or was it optional? It doesn't appear to have ever had any?
What was the correct original engine color?
Is there a source for crank pullies? Mine needs a single groove pulley, someone added a 3 groove to add A/C and I'd like to remove it.

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Posted 2009-04-02 4:39 PM (#169112 - in reply to #169106)
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Here's the Data Tag, not much on it! Can anyone here decode it?

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Posted 2009-04-02 5:13 PM (#169114 - in reply to #169112)
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That wagon is mine, it's a '57, and that is not a factory light blue.

It was originally a dark blue metallic.

Your factory engine color was all-silver.

This is Bluebonnet (photo from plymouthcentral)

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Posted 2009-04-02 5:50 PM (#169118 - in reply to #169114)
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Small world huh?

It looks like the blue can vary allot depending on lighting, the blue (original paint) that I see on my car looksmore like the shade that's on your wagon than the blue in the other pic you posted. Pretty color none the less.

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Posted 2009-04-02 5:52 PM (#169119 - in reply to #169114)
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BTW, is it normal for the doors to fit the car like crap? My hinges seem solid and tight and the doors close nice but they sure don't line up very well with the door openings.

Edited by Scott Smith Harms 2009-04-02 5:53 PM

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Posted 2009-04-02 6:16 PM (#169123 - in reply to #169106)
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Scott Smith Harms - 2009-04-02 12:26 PM Thanks Ralph, Yes, my car was definately a pale blue (like robins egg/pastel blue with no metallics). Looked just like this one: More questions: Mine's missing the side trim or was it optional? It doesn't appear to have ever had any? What was the correct original engine color? Is there a source for crank pullies? Mine needs a single groove pulley, someone added a 3 groove to add A/C and I'd like to remove it.

Are you interested in getting rid of that 3 groove pulley? Wonder if it would fit my 315 Poly? I'll look and see if I still have my single grooce pulley, though you need to find out if it will fit your motor, mine's off my '56 315 Poly.

Jay

Scott Smith Harms

Posted 2009-04-02 6:58 PM (#169137 - in reply to #169123)
Subject: Re: 1957 Plymouth 2 Door Suburban Wagon - IT RUNS!

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I planned on selling the entire A/C setup (every nut and bolt complete) so I shouldn't let go of the pulley by itself. However, if you have a single groove you know will work on my 57 301 I'll buy it for sure.

Thanks!

Scott Smith Harms

Posted 2009-04-02 7:00 PM (#169139 - in reply to #169137)
Subject: Re: 1957 Plymouth 2 Door Suburban Wagon - IT RUNS!

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On another note, does anyone make headers for these cars? Not that I want to butcher the car but a headers would be a nice add on and I could keep and stash the OEM manifolds.

Doctor DeSoto

Posted 2009-04-02 7:07 PM (#169141 - in reply to #169119)
Subject: Re: 1957 Plymouth 2 Door Suburban Wagon - IT RUNS!

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Scott Smith Harms - 2009-04-03 2:52 PM

BTW, is it normal for the doors to fit the car like crap? My hinges seem solid and tight and the doors close nice but they sure don't line up very well with the door openings.

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Yes ! 57 model cars, especially early production cars (yours is early December) were notorious for having poorly fitted body panels. Everything can look like new and work perfectly and still look like $#@!

My old New Yorker required cutting the driver's door jam loose from the quarter, slicing a tapered cut from zero at the top to 3/4" at the bottom, beating the door jam rearward at the base until they met, and then welding it up ! The gap at the top was acually too big and had to be filled ! It was ugly ! .... but it was a low miles, never monkeyed-with original ! If you plan on painting it, bring it by and we can rough it in before you start your finish work.

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