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plymouth
Posted 2013-10-30 6:32 AM (#407167 - in reply to #407149)
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ronbo97
Posted 2013-10-30 8:05 AM (#407180 - in reply to #407167)
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Looking forward to seeing both cars after buffing. I gather that you painted the cars outside. How are the humidity levels down there ? Were you able to compensate for that ?

Ron

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FIN ME
Posted 2013-10-30 10:34 AM (#407195 - in reply to #382568)
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Very impressive work, plymouth!

The bright work really sets off that pretty blue paint!

Can't wait to see what else you have in store for your great Polara.




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plymouth
Posted 2013-10-30 3:02 PM (#407238 - in reply to #407149)
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plymouth - 2013-10-27 5:22 PM

from what I gather, you cannot wet sand or polish metallic paint.
I am not sure about that, but if you really wanted more shine and smooth-ness, you could give a couple of clear coats and wet sand - polish that. Looks real good to me as is.......................................MO


It's metallic? Looks like normal paint from this distance... Looking at the pictures it seems to have more of a gloss appearance to the paint... http://oldcarbrochures.com/static/NA/Dodge/1961_Dodge/1961_Dodge_Da... not sure why I just have a feeling that it looks kinda "murky" maybe I'm just used to seeing a near mirror reflection in higher quality paint?



Hey Kelli. Lets see your car with that mirror shine.
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plymouth
Posted 2013-10-30 3:04 PM (#407239 - in reply to #407195)
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FIN ME - 2013-10-30 9:34 AM


Very impressive work, plymouth!

The bright work really sets off that pretty blue paint!

Can't wait to see what else you have in store for your great Polara.




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Thanks. I'm really excited about getting her finished.
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57Kelii
Posted 2013-10-30 3:29 PM (#407252 - in reply to #407167)
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plymouth - 2013-10-30 6:32 AM

Yes it is metallic. I used single stage enamel which is what the factory used. also it is not murky... You have a way with rubbing folks the wrong way.


Yeah I seem to do that a lot... I mean no offense...I'm still learning a lot about cars and I've not exactly seen this style of paint before..
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57Kelii
Posted 2013-10-30 3:30 PM (#407254 - in reply to #407238)
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plymouth - 2013-10-27 5:22 PM

from what I gather, you cannot wet sand or polish metallic paint.
I am not sure about that, but if you really wanted more shine and smooth-ness, you could give a couple of clear coats and wet sand - polish that. Looks real good to me as is.......................................MO


It's metallic? Looks like normal paint from this distance... Looking at the pictures it seems to have more of a gloss appearance to the paint... http://oldcarbrochures.com/static/NA/Dodge/1961_Dodge/1961_Dodge_Da... not sure why I just have a feeling that it looks kinda "murky" maybe I'm just used to seeing a near mirror reflection in higher quality paint?



Hey Kelli. Lets see your car with that mirror shine.


I wouldn't call mine "mirror like" but here http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/274/f/2/grey_by_scraftylark-...
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plymouth
Posted 2013-10-30 3:50 PM (#407260 - in reply to #407254)
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plymouth
Posted 2013-10-30 6:34 PM (#407305 - in reply to #407260)
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MOPAR-TO-YA
Posted 2013-10-31 1:43 AM (#407410 - in reply to #407238)
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plymouth - 2013-10-30 2:02 PM

57Kelii - 2013-10-29 11:32 PM

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plymouth - 2013-10-27 5:22 PM

from what I gather, you cannot wet sand or polish metallic paint.
I am not sure about that, but if you really wanted more shine and smooth-ness, you could give a couple of clear coats and wet sand - polish that. Looks real good to me as is.......................................MO


It's metallic? Looks like normal paint from this distance... Looking at the pictures it seems to have more of a gloss appearance to the paint... http://oldcarbrochures.com/static/NA/Dodge/1961_Dodge/1961_Dodge_Da... not sure why I just have a feeling that it looks kinda "murky" maybe I'm just used to seeing a near mirror reflection in higher quality paint?



Hey Kelli. Lets see your car with that mirror shine.
LOL C.B. I have a T shirt given to me by friends who ragged on me for several days. Bright red with giant yellow letters that says " DON"T LET THE bas***dS GET YOU DOWN. Maybe I should send that to you! Everyone has their own opinions and one of my un-popular ones is--I don't give a hoot for " high quality" paint that has a mirror shine--it has no "character"--looks fake...............................MO
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polara61
Posted 2013-10-31 4:36 AM (#407422 - in reply to #407410)
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Overspray on the lens? :-)
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2013-10-31 1:21 PM (#407523 - in reply to #407149)
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I can't help but think of how the average schmuck thinks when they see something so bizarre as
a 1961 Polara. They really are Mother Mopar's pinnacle "WTF ?" icon.

My brother keeps a photo of his Polara on the service counter where he works. In ten years, not
a single customer has guessed what it is ! When they ask, he says "I was hoping you could tell ME !"

One more reason I love these unusual old dogs.
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plymouth
Posted 2013-10-31 4:45 PM (#407603 - in reply to #382568)
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Location: McComb, Mississippi		Lol. there probably is overspray on the camera. I have only had one person guess that it is a 61 polara. most people think it looks like some kind of alien spaceship.
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2013-11-01 12:49 AM (#407725 - in reply to #407603)
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about my cars. But the 61 Dodge takes the cake for being "out there". I love 'em !
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plymouth
Posted 2013-11-17 10:53 AM (#411176 - in reply to #382568)
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Location: McComb, Mississippi		Replaced the radiator hoses yesterday. I am awaiting a new heater core and fuel gauge from big m. I have a new Job at the local Nissan dealership. im working around 44 hours a week so I am getting the front end rebuilt and rear axle bearings replaced by my former auto instructor. I still need to get the seats redone and new headliner and dash pad. Any sources on dash pads??
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2013-11-17 12:20 PM (#411197 - in reply to #411176)
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Posted 2013-11-17 12:55 PM (#411207 - in reply to #411176)
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Location: So. Cal		Way to go. Getting a job in the auto services is the best way to get a good handle on things. It can make a good career too. If you learn everything you need to about working on new cars, you can eventually open your own shop.

The car looks great too. Good for you for getting 'er done with whatever resources are available to you. Many people on here don't understand the concept of restoring a car just enough to drive and use it on a daily basis. They have their mind so set on museum quality restorations that they don't understand the value of making a car fun to drive. Enjoy the satisfaction as you drive by their 20yr long projects sitting in their garages.
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plymouth
Posted 2013-11-17 3:53 PM (#411230 - in reply to #411197)
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Doctor DeSoto - 2013-11-17 11:20 AM

Have you looked into Just Dashes ?


Nope but I will check them out. Thanks
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plymouth
Posted 2013-11-17 3:56 PM (#411231 - in reply to #411207)
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Powerflite - 2013-11-17 11:55 AM

Way to go. Getting a job in the auto services is the best way to get a good handle on things. It can make a good career too. If you learn everything you need to about working on new cars, you can eventually open your own shop.

The car looks great too. Good for you for getting 'er done with whatever resources are available to you. Many people on here don't understand the concept of restoring a car just enough to drive and use it on a daily basis. They have their mind so set on museum quality restorations that they don't understand the value of making a car fun to drive. Enjoy the satisfaction as you drive by their 20yr long projects sitting in their garages.


I completely agree. Im sure driving around in a work in progress is much more fun than waiting years and years for something you are scared to look at the wrong way.
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Posted 2013-11-17 4:01 PM (#411232 - in reply to #382568)
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plymouth
Posted 2013-11-17 4:14 PM (#411235 - in reply to #411232)
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firedome - 2013-11-17 3:01 PM

Just be sitting down when you get Just Dashes price!


That bad huh??
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VAN HELSING
Posted 2013-11-17 8:40 PM (#411287 - in reply to #411231)
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plymouth - 2013-11-18 7:56 AM

Powerflite - 2013-11-17 11:55 AM

Way to go. Getting a job in the auto services is the best way to get a good handle on things. It can make a good career too. If you learn everything you need to about working on new cars, you can eventually open your own shop.

The car looks great too. Good for you for getting 'er done with whatever resources are available to you. Many people on here don't understand the concept of restoring a car just enough to drive and use it on a daily basis. They have their mind so set on museum quality restorations that they don't understand the value of making a car fun to drive. Enjoy the satisfaction as you drive by their 20yr long projects sitting in their garages.


I completely agree. Im sure driving around in a work in progress is much more fun than waiting years and years for something you are scared to look at the wrong way.



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Agree also,

I love seeing people work on their own cars themselves as much as possible and like has already been said, using whatever resources you can find. I have great respect for those working with whatever knowledge they have at the time.

Getting in and learning how to do something that had previously been outside of someones comfort zone is something to be admired in my eyes.

Nice car too, I like the 61 Dodge fronts especially, kinda look sad .....................

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plymouth
Posted 2013-11-27 7:47 PM (#413379 - in reply to #382568)
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Location: McComb, Mississippi		as of today, the front suspension has been completely overhauled including a rebuilt power steering gearbox. The car handles wonderfully. I still need to get a front end alignment though. I have a few rattles in the interior that I need to take care , mainly the push buttons. the next thing to do, is replaced the rear axle bearings and oil seals.

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Posted 2013-11-27 9:46 PM (#413413 - in reply to #413379)
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plymouth - 2013-11-27 4:47 PM

as of today, the front suspension has been completely overhauled including a rebuilt power steering gearbox. The car handles wonderfully. I still need to get a front end alignment though. I have a few rattles in the interior that I need to take care , mainly the push buttons. the next thing to do, is replaced the rear axle bearings and oil seals.


The push buttons have felt inserts between the buttons and where they come through the holes in the dash to keep them from rattling Yours are probably rotted out. Gary Goers has replacements.
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plymouth
Posted 2013-11-28 10:16 AM (#413480 - in reply to #413413)
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Posted 2013-12-01 5:07 PM (#413903 - in reply to #382568)
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Location: McComb, Mississippi		the car had a problem with all of the gauges reading incorrectly. I discovered it was the built in voltage regulator in the fuel gauge. I replaced the gauge and I now have correct gauges, except for the temperature gauge. The temperature sending unit is bad so I have one on order. The next good weather weekend, I will be replacing the rear axle bearings and seals. Then comes the new headliner.
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plymouth
Posted 2013-12-01 5:48 PM (#413917 - in reply to #413903)
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Posted 2013-12-01 8:33 PM (#413947 - in reply to #382568)
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Location: Heaven Above (Formerly Oklahoma City,OK)		Christian, if you do want the paint to have more "shine", and if it is an enamel base paint, give it 4-5 months to "cure" and then it can be wet sanded with 800 or 1000 grit, and it can then be polished with a very fine rubbing compound. Of course that presumes that you put enough paint on it. Other wise, your looking at wet sanding it with320 to 400 grit and throwing 4 or 5 coats of clear on it. Then do the 1000 grit and rubbing compound tricks. Make it shine like a baby's butt.
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plymouth
Posted 2013-12-07 9:50 PM (#415039 - in reply to #382568)
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Posted 2013-12-07 9:50 PM (#415040 - in reply to #382568)
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Posted 2013-12-12 2:12 PM (#415858 - in reply to #382568)
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plymouth
Posted 2014-01-07 10:17 AM (#420782 - in reply to #382568)
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FIN ME
Posted 2014-01-07 10:25 AM (#420784 - in reply to #382568)
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Thanks for the pic's and the update, plymouth!

It's always GREAT to see someone who is so obviously enthusiastic about their old FL car!

Keep the reports comin'.


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Posted 2014-01-07 8:21 PM (#420898 - in reply to #382568)
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I am not trying to be mean at all here especially if its your first time painting a car, but you could see the orange peel on this car from google earth. Id get fired for that.

And if you painted it a metallic single stage enamel FORGET about trying to buff it out. It will be a waste of time. Blue metallic single stage will turn blotchy if you wet sand and buff it. Even just buffing it will make it worse you will tip all the metal flake over.

I am not trying to be a dick but sand her down and spary her in base clear or at the very least urethane.


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Posted 2014-01-08 10:35 PM (#421124 - in reply to #420898)
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WOW!!!

I am not trying to be mean at all here especially if its your first time painting a car, but you could see the orange peel on this car from google earth. Id get fired for that.

And if you painted it a metallic single stage enamel FORGET about trying to buff it out. It will be a waste of time. Blue metallic single stage will turn blotchy if you wet sand and buff it. Even just buffing it will make it worse you will tip all the metal flake over.

I am not trying to be a dick but sand her down and spary her in base clear or at the very least urethane.




Im not trying to be a Dick either, but if you have nothing positive to say, dont f####ng comment on my thread.
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Posted 2014-01-08 10:40 PM (#421125 - in reply to #421124)
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Posted 2014-01-08 10:45 PM (#421127 - in reply to #421125)
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oldwood - 2014-01-08 9:40 PM

Someones THONG may be a little tight.


Just pisses me off that I put so much effort into MY Car and someone has nothing better to do than point out flaws.
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Posted 2014-01-09 2:59 AM (#421145 - in reply to #382568)
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Posted 2014-01-09 8:49 AM (#421164 - in reply to #382568)
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Posted 2014-01-09 9:53 AM (#421172 - in reply to #382568)
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Posted 2014-01-09 6:40 PM (#421224 - in reply to #382568)
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Calvin supplied some valuable information, about not trying to buff out single-stage metallic enamel paint.

Didn't know about that, but it makes sense.

If you have not, yet, got your wheels aligned, here's a screen shot from my ride's radial tire alignment specs,
from 2005.

My shop's computer parameters referenced OEM bias ply tires specifications, and not radial tire specs..

Old time wheel alignments used to reflect an abundance of considerably-humped roadways, and stiff bias ply sidewalls, which tend
to allow tread corners to lift, upon cornering, instead of having the treads lie flat against the pavement, like radial tires do permit.

The OEM bias ply specs on Camber adjustments is interesting, which call for positive on the left and negative on
the right, so that the tires would lean into the (now, non-existent) humped/swaled roadways.

Radial tires do not need negative caster to maintain a flat tread against (flat) pavement cornering.

However, most cars are driven around-town, and studies have shown that most turns are toward the
left (go ask your shop), which tends to wear the INSIDE edge of the (left) 'inside' tire.

My shop installed a tad more positive Camber on the left tire, so as to preserve some of the inside edge of the left tire.

(most-) All tires need some Toe-in, because, at highway speeds the suspension dynamics tends to pull the wheel
apart, so, if they start out slightly pigeon-toed, they will straighten out and fly right (an old expression) at speed.

My shop said that the subject .02 Toe-in on the right side should have been .04, but that the difference between the two sides
was not critical to the car's performance..





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calvatron
Posted 2014-01-10 6:03 AM (#421287 - in reply to #382568)
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As someone who does this sort of work for a living I am just trying to help you make your car look its very best.

If you don't want to take my advise that is totally up to you.
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plymouth
Posted 2014-01-24 8:23 AM (#423752 - in reply to #382568)
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Location: McComb, Mississippi		Well, this was a surprise! Had no idea there was a chance of snow. Thought I'd share a couple of pictures.



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plymouth
Posted 2014-02-22 10:01 PM (#428533 - in reply to #382568)
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Location: McComb, Mississippi		First long trip in the Polara. We covered a little over 200 miles running at freeway speeds. I am averaging around 19.5mpg. Had a great time.
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Posted 2014-02-24 6:18 AM (#428739 - in reply to #382568)
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Location: Georgia		Where did y'all go? Take any road trip photos?
Glad you are enjoying the Polara!
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Posted 2014-02-24 6:34 PM (#428838 - in reply to #382568)
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plymouth
Posted 2014-03-02 12:08 AM (#429510 - in reply to #382568)
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Location: McComb, Mississippi		More progress done today.
the car has had a really low pitched hum coming from the rear end ever since I purchased the car. it is extremely noticeable at speeds above 60 miles an hour. Today, I replaced the rear axle bearings, races, and seals. I found the problem on the drivers side race. I had to use a good bit of heat to free the eroded race. Check out how bad this race is. I replaced all of the parts and now the car goes down the road quiet at all speeds.



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Powerflite
Posted 2014-03-02 12:33 PM (#429559 - in reply to #429510)
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Location: So. Cal		Having a quiet ride after driving it with a howl is a sweet feeling. I put a new 8" Ford axle that Currie shortened for me into my '69 Corona. They must have used really cheap crap Chinese bearings in the thing. It always made noise. I thought it was because of the pinion angle, driveshaft or something else; but no matter how I played with it, I couldn't get rid of the noise. So I just lived with it until 30k miles later I start dropping balls out on the freeway. I replaced the bearings with good American stuff and suddenly it is quiet like it should be.
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ttotired
Posted 2014-03-02 5:32 PM (#429605 - in reply to #382568)
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Location: Perth Australia		So many comments about "dropping balls" , but none of them belong here

Good find on the bearind CB

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Posted 2014-03-02 9:11 PM (#429632 - in reply to #382568)
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Location: bishop, ca		For anyone wondering about CB's having got 19.5 MPG on the road, that's what the 361/2-bbl, with the 2.93:1 gearset
will do for you.

This is about what a 61 Windsor sedan got, to/from Tulsa, back in 2007, as well.



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