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Location: kansas city, mo. | here is a couple of pics of the 59 dodge 4 door sedan cr as requested. i bought this car, but have yet to drag her home. mike in k.c.
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Location: kansas city, mo. | a few more of the 58 windsor.
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Location: Warren, Michigan | That Windsor is so darn cool... What is under the hood? I know its supposed to be a 2bbl 354 but it looks like there is a generator just laying loose. What else is missing?
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Location: kansas city, mo. | it's the original motor for sure, poly for sure not hemi. still has the a/c intact, the breather assembly. the only thing missing from what i know about 58 windsors, are the little badges that attach to the tiny insert within the trim spears on the rear quarters and the hubcaps. the car may be sold to a fellow member here. i backed out of buying this one myself. you know, other things(cars) come up! mike in k.c. |
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| Hi Mike We had a problem but now its fixed.
Ok just picked up on this yard thats getting squashed. Is there any 61 plymouth bodys that are sporting headlite bezels I got a 2drht and I need a set of those a top wind screen stainless trim a clock off the dash tho they not that easy to get out I think.
some pics of anything 61 would be great to see, mike you have all the luck to be able to wander around in all that chrome.
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Location: kansas city, mo. | terry, the only plymmie 61 is a plain jane wagon and it is pretty toasty! not much left. i think there is a passenger headlight bezel but i can't swear to it. i think i checked on it for another member previously. i never took any pics of the 61. you're right, getting in and out of some of these cars and getting in a position to pull stuff from under a dash is a bit of a nightmare. i look at this yard literally like a kid in a candy store or a toys-r-us! funt times for sure! |
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| hey thanks mike good on you for thinking about it. I'm abit out of town anyway if you have heard of New Zealand thats where I'm at. I got this 61 coupe out of ohio it sort of got picked over on the way out, hence the clock missing out of the dash, but hey s**t does happen. I've got a bad fitting drivers door, everything looks great except for the top hinge being just a little bent and / or just simply the wrong one as well. anydoors laying around with a hinge to suit my coupe? I'm not familiar with parts that interchange.
Also does the coupe have different wind screen stainless compared to the 4 door sedan, maybe because the roof lines are completely different perhapes?
Over here we use to have those graveyards for old chev's an ford's but they are also gone, I'd love to come over if someone had a tour circuit organised....global graveyards.com I bags the IT rights straight away. haha
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Location: kansas city, mo. | terry, i am a relative rookie when it comes to these cars, but there are plenty of 61 guys that can detail your query way better than i. but my experience with windshields has been that hardtop and sedan windshields are different thoughout the range of forwardlook vehicles. check with 61plymy, or john fowlie(bigm). they will know for sure. |
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Location: Florida | Hey Folks, I have committed to buying the '58 Windsor that KC Mike saw at this yard - the deposit is in the hands of the owner. I have a '58 Saratoga four-door hardtop that will benefit from many parts from this car - and my buddy tnlowrider in Tennessee will use even more parts from this car to get his '58 DeSoto Firesweep back on the road! |
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Location: SOUTH DUNEDIN NEW ZEALAND | terry moparl from dunedin , imay have some bits to suit your car let me what you want ,i will have a look in my parts shed
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Location: Dalveen, Queensland, Australia | I reckon it would be a shame to part out that Chrysler... |
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Location: Florida | Well, the Windsor is going to excellent use - I'm using the body from the firewall back and interior parts for my cut-up '58 Saratoga four-door hardtop. My buddy is using all the front sheetmetal and the entire chassis to replace a rotten one on his '58 DeSoto Firesweep. There will be VERY little left over, and it will be breathing life into two cars. Even my buddy said that he is satisified that we will consuming the parts on this car nearly 100%.
Otherwise, his & my car would be further away from a usable vehicle, and neither is being parted out. The Windsor is weeks away from being crushed, since the yard is already sold, and vehicles are disappearing completely by the day. Overall, a better end to this car than being crushed, melted down and remade into a cheap Chinese tool set . . .
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Location: Dalveen, Queensland, Australia | There's nothing wrong with that then, two is better than one any day!
A bit surprised that it's mentioned there's a Poly in it, I thought they weren't used in Chryslers. I know it's not the Poly as in 301/313/318 but a 'converted Hemi', but all the same, this is the first time I've seen one mentioned in relation to a Chrysler. |
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Location: Florida | It's a different Poly - what was in the '55 thru '58 lower-line Chryslers was a cheaper version of the 331 & 354 Hemi - the heads only required one rocker shaft per head, and were lighter in weight and simpler to cast, and therefore, cheaper.
It was a totally different engine than the 318 Poly, and a whisker away from the Hemi. The 354 Poly in my '57 Saratoga is rated at 295 HP with a stick four barrel carburetor, so it was no slouch. |
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Location: Dalveen, Queensland, Australia | That Saratoga sounds like it would be something I'd really enjoy!
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Location: Florida | I'll be at this yard tomorrow, 4/18/08 to pick up the 1958 Chrysler Windsor, and pulling it home to Florida with a rental truck - I'll probably have a few minutes to look around at the last of the cars before they're crushed. I'll get pics of what's left while I'm there. |
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Location: SLC, UT | Get a couple pics of the 61 Dodge Wagon if you could.
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Location: kansas city, mo. | oh john, you are in for a heck of a muddy mess! i hope you have your mudders with you. by the time you read this you will have already driven home i'm sure. good luck, mike in k.c. |
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I need a couple of sets of Elbows. Please email me here or at my email, barringtonhistorical@yahoo.com
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Location: Florida | Thanks, ilikedodge Mike! The father & son yanked the Windsor up in the air, I backed my rented trailer underneath it, and they lowered it down onto it - then they pushed the Windsor the rest of the way onto the trailer. I wish I could have had a 2-3 car trailer - there were a few other cars I would have taken if I had the room!
I got home safely with the Windsor in tow on a trailer behind the Penske truck I rented in Platte City, MO, just 10 minutes from the airport. It was 1528 miles one-way back to Florida, at an average speed of 61 MPH, all at 8-9 MPG of unleaded gas, priced from $3.33/gallon to $3.59/gallon. The lady at the Penske truck rental agency was really helpful. I had made all my reservations online (www.penske.com) in advance - there's no other way - and everything went very smoothly. Even the Southwest one-way flight from West Palm Beach, FL, to Kansas City, MO at $89 was trouble-free.
The owner of the yard told me that the deal to sell the yard has not yet gone through, and he's been on the side of the potential buyer to keep the yard as an operating wrecking yard, instead of his grandfathered zoning expiring once the yard is sold - and the yard has plenty of good parts cars left. If the potential new owner does not get to keep the zoning unchanged if the sale goes through, the cars will likely be crushed. The owner is ready to retire after operating the yard for 47 years.
I took over 70 pictures of the cars in the yard, and will post a bunch when I get the chance. And you were 100% in your PM to me, Mike - the Windsor definitely was one of the better cars in the yard! In some of the low-lying areas, it was quite obvious that the cars had been submerged, but most were old wrecks and cars that had only seen the end of their useful life. And, yes! I had my tall sh*tkickers on walking through the yard, so my feet remained dry - my boots nearly were pulled off a few times from the suction of the muddy grounds. Did the owner realize that there were multiple creeks and streams running right through the center of his property when he started this yard? I don't know.
Sorry, alwndup, I didn't get your message before I left. I'll look to see if I have any pics of that Dodge - I recall a finned post-1960 finned wagon that was missing its front-end sheetmetal - that may have been the wagon that you're asking about.
Like I said, I'll get some pics posted ASAP.
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Location: kansas city, mo. | i'm glad things went o.k. for you john. i still need to figure out what i want to do with the 59 dodge. it's still there waiting on me/weather to get our/its act together. i hope they don't crush out, it just kills me to know that my days may be numbered to go thru their at my leasure. i'm may go after a the 71 chrysler up by the street instead of the 59. it still has its complete drivetrain and is in decent condition. i'm also trying to work out a deal with jim the owner to pay him a little each month to save a few more cars. i think he'll work with me. how is the condition of the 58 compared to what you thought of it before you actually saw it? hope it helps your project like you hoped, mike in k.c. |
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Location: Florida | Mike, I think you have a little more time - the old man is giving hell to the zoning board, and his goal is to allow the potential new owner to keep the yard operating as it is. The Dodge didn't look bad - but I had my eye on that power swivel seat in the 60 Imperial - but the yard owner said the whole car had been sold to Imperial Services in North(?)Dakota. He had already sold them five other Imperials.
I am happy with the Windsor - I always expect a car that I have purchased sight-unseen to be significantly worse than what is shown in pictures, and I adjust my buying price accordingly. I think this car was worth the $700 paid - some parts were worse than expected (rear quarters) and other parts better than expected (roof, front fenders, rocker panels). I am still taking inventory of its condition, but don't expect any surprises. The frame is solid, probably much more solid than many of the cars there. I'd love to pick up a few dozen of his cars & open my own yard! |
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Location: Florida | Here are some pics from the yard, and my car getting loaded on the trailer, and then me and the car.
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Location: Florida | There are more pics I took, mostly non-Mopar, but many 50s & 60s cars.
I just had to include that partly-submerged 1959 Buick sedan, and the unfortunate Alfa Spider with the 6" diameter tree growing through its floorboards and between the steering wheel and dashboard.
And yes, that is lichen growing on my car, along with some moss. It came off in the self-service car wash.
Alwndup, I looked through all my pictures and did not find a 1961 Dodge, unless it's that car I included first in the above group - I think that's a 1960. |
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Location: kansas city, mo. | the wagon in the first pic is a 61. i grabbed the side rear stainless from it a few weeks back. i see mike on the cat helpin' you out. that 57 2dht belvy has been sold to a dude that bought my old rusty 57 for about 2 years now. he paid for it and jim had mike move it to where it is now and he never showed up to pick it up. that car was crunched by the cat several years ago when they moved it to where it used to sit before they dragged it to where it sits now. i grabbed a bunch of parts off it a few years back too. that place is a blast! i go when ever i can. i hope it stays for ever, but i'm scared it is gonna get crushed out. i do hope jim gets something worked out to where it stays a reasonably inexpensive place to buy cars and parts. thanks for posting more pics, mike in k.c. |
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I think those are going to be my next "collection".
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Location: Florida | "Reinhauer Bros Oklahoma City OK" I don't know if they sold it new or used. |
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Location: Florida | This place is so darn far away from me - any news as to what the status of this yard is? There were definitely more Mopars besides the Windsor I pulled home that could be saved from this yard. |
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Location: kansas city, mo. | john, the deal to sell the cars and the yard fell thru however, jim decided to bring in a crusher and started crushing soon after the deal fell thru with the would be buyer. he still has some cars as to what and how many are left remains to be seen. when i last spoke with him he said he had crushed about 150 cars! i know the 59 dodge i bought is still there, and he promised to hold onto the last 58 plymouth 2dht for me until i could come and get it which looks to be in a week or two. i kinda think he made the would be buyer too good of a deal and decided to cash it out on his own terms. sad, but i guess he just decided it was time. he told me that business was way down any way. i got to give him a call to touch base with him and i'll report back with a mopar head count, mike in k.c. |
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Location: Florida | That's a darn shame. There were a slew of really interesting vehicles in that yard, Mopar & non-Mopar. Many usable parts are going to be lost with the crushing of these cars. I guess it's a fantasy to think that a yard like that will go on forever without change. It's too bad that a few more can't be saved -maybe a few more members here will look over the pics in this thread and try to get over there. |
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Location: Big pimpin' | Thing is, every time I hear of a junkyard crushing all the antique cars, I also hear off in the distance, "Cha-ching!", "Cha-Ching!"...
All they are doing is making the last remaining parts in peoples private stashes worth more and more..... |
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Location: kansas city, mo. | here is what i saw today. the 59 plymouth belvedere 2 door post, the 59 dodge wagons, one of the 58 dodge hardtops with the tree growing out of the engine bay, the 64 dodge 880 4 door hardtop wagon is still there, the 49 dodge pilothouse 1/2 ton, the pre pilothouse wpc 4 wheel drive dodge truck, a couple of 55 dodge 2 door posts, and that's about it of the mopar stuff. the 58 plymouth 2dht was crushed as was my spirits!  chopperjohn picked up the 58 chrysler so it's gone. now i'm sad, mike in k.c. |
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Location: Florida | This is the one I have of the 59 Dodge wagon . . .
along with a very unhappy looking Edsel . . .
The Imperial was to be removed later in the week, finding a new home in Minnesota, I think.
And a '55 DeSoto with tinted glass awaits the crusher.
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Location: kansas city, mo. | the 55 desoto is gone, the imperial was not there either. the wagon is still there. the edsel? i didn't notice. |
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi ilikedodge !
Is it all over With your "honey hole" ?
I have a 1958 Windsor and a 1959 Sierra Spectator that need some things |
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Location: kansas city, mo. | not 100%, but is sure has dwindled down a bit. i think he said ha had crushed about 150 cars. for now, he has stopped. the crusher that was on site to do the dirty work was gone. there are still many cars, but not near as many forwardlookers. i would say around 6-10 forwardlookers left. i didn't take a complete inventory. what is left is pretty ragged, but they are still our beloved forwardlooker autos. mike in k.c. |
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Location: Florida | Mike - does Van's still have some of those F#rd truck cabs around? How about that poor Alfa Romeo with the tree growin' up through it? There must have been a half-dozen flathead F#rd engines laying around there. Have you been able to pick up the car you wanted originally?
The '58 Chrysler Windsor I picked up has yielded a boatload of good parts - The A/C setup is going on my '58 coupe, lots of 4-door-hardtop-only parts are set aside for my '57 Saratoga chopped-off-top hardtop, and the rest is going north to Tennessee in two weekends to help get TNLOWRIDER's '58 DeSoto Firesweep back on the road - the frame, decklid and front fenders on his car are toast, and the Windsor does offer decent parts in those areas.
I did look over the Windsor thoroughly after I got it home. With the extensive floor rust that crept up to the dashboard and around to the inner rocker panels, and the fact water was rushing out somewhere from the rear of the engine when I tried filling the radiator, and all four wheels were frozen solid, I expect that its fate would not have ever been to be restored itself. I will see if I can post some pics of what it looks like once I get it on the trailer to bring it to tnlowrider. The pics will be shocking! The car is quite disassembled, but has given up its existence to eventually make three other cars roadworthy. |
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Location: Florida | Torben - I'll have some extra parts from the "Secret Honey Hole" 1958 Windsor left over from all my disassembly work. Anything you can think of that you may need?
For example, most of the exterior stainless trim is dented, but there are a few pieces that are usable.
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Location: Southern Sweden - Sturkö island | 58WindsorDartline - 2008-08-21 11:47 AM
Hi ilikedodge !
Is it all over With your "honey hole" ?
I have a 1958 Windsor and a 1959 Sierra Spectator that need some things
Hello Torben, welcome to the gang! Please update your profile with your location. |
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Location: Montreal, Canada | Mike,
Here's a scan of the part that I need.
It is the bracket on the left rectangle holding the 2nd seat passenger side. Hope you can help.
Does any 59 Dodge has rear passenger black arm rests?
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Location: Montreal, Canada | Actually, it's the retainer that's broken. But all the hardware would be nice to have.
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi John !
Thank you for your reaction on my letter, sorry i havent replay'ed sooner, but i have had so much to do.
My 58 Dart line is in need of a total restauration, so i can use more or less every thing, do you maby have pictures of what is left of the car ?.
Also i think i remember a picture of a 59 Dodge STW. from this place does anyone know hvat happend with that.
My 59 Spectator is driving but in need of a few things, The headliner with the moulding ( i don't know if that is the right word ) is not complete, i need a good pair of horns to the backbumper, the flat ones where the back door can rest on, a steeringwheel and a few other things. |
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi Wizard !
Or may i call you Svend ?, Thanks fore the welcome.
I will come with an update of my profile soon but i try to find some pictures of my cars to put on, compaird to some of the others in this forum i am living next door to you, i live in Denmark. |
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi All !
As you can see I am new to this forum, had i look'ed a little up on this page i woul have seen that it was You "Chopper John" who had the picture, and that i have a fellow Sierra man on the look fore parts, are yours also a 9 pass. Spectator "Catman" ? |
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Location: Montreal, Canada | No. Mine is a 6 passenger.
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi Catman !
What friend are you refering to ? |
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my secret "honey hole" is crushin' out!
