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spikemike |
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Veteran Posts: 269 Location: Tampa, FL | In modern, steel belted radials, anyway. The Belvedere needs new tires, and I have a good set of tires that came off of my wrecked car that I'm thinking about putting on it. These are 70 series; the car currently has 75s. I'm not concerned with it sitting lower; I think that might actually look pretty good. Is anyone running 70 series tires on their FL car? | ||
sermey |
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Expert Posts: 1208 Location: SWITZERLAND | Hi. If you use 70s, not only the car will be lower, but the speedometer will show a higher speed due to the reduced circomference of the tyres. On the other side you have a higher torsion power and thus a better acceleration, not significant. To solve this problem on my 1959 Dodge (see album) I have change the 14" wheels to 15" wheels and then using 235/70 www radial Tyres from Coker. This looks nice and now when for presentation reasons, I remount the original 14" wheels they seemed me optically to be too small for the size of this car. Of course I had to adapt the original 15" Spinner Hubcaps in order to fit this wheels. Now they just fit inside the wheels, and are protected from scratching on street (look at the Photo). -SERGE- Edited by sermey 2006-09-24 3:38 AM (DSC00009.JPG) Attachments ---------------- DSC00009.JPG (15KB - 196 downloads) | ||
1960fury |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7402 Location: northern germany | 225/70-14 diamond back wide whitewalls (61 desoto) | ||
RoyalGate |
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Expert Posts: 2011 Location: Ballwin, Missouri | Serge, How did you adapte your 14" wheel covers to your 15" wheels? Can it be driven with them on or is it just for when you are parked? I would like to get a set of '58 Custom Royal Lancer spinner hub cap for my Coronet but I too have 15" wheels and I can only find them in the original wheel covers for 14" wheels. I haven't even been able to find an aftermarket sets. Could you send me a close up picture of your wheel covers. This interests me very much. Thanks. | ||
sermey |
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Expert Posts: 1208 Location: SWITZERLAND | Larry: I have made some pictures for you. The Original 14" and the 15" Dodge Hubcaps have inside the same fixing diameter fitting 14" wheels. The 15" Hubcap covers all the 14" wheel and is thus more exposed to scratches on the Road. On my 1959 Dodge I have stilll the original 14" wheels with the 14" Spinner Hubcaps. But using the 15" Tyres (235/70/15) I need of course 15" wheels. Thus no Dodge Hubcaps will fit this 15" wheel, as you found out. I have taken additional 15" stainless Wheel Rings and soldered them inside the 15" Original WheelCover for fixing on the new and wider 15" Chrome wheels. For this the Hubcaps have to be adapted, as well the visible outside part of the Wheel Ring have been removed. Thus, the Spinner Hubcaps now are fixed to the wheel by the soldered stainless Ring. You see on the picture a Nylon Cord, this is to make the springs around stronger, the hubcap will be centered and hold thighter. 1. Photo: the soldered Ring supported by the Nylon Cord 2. Photo: the gap between the 15" HubCap and the Border of the wheel (5mm) 3. Photo: the 15" Chrome Wheel. For mounting the HubCaps the CenterCap must not be removed, can drive without HubCaps and mount them anytime. - SERGE - Edited by sermey 2006-09-25 2:42 PM (DSC00052.JPG) (DSC00053.JPG) (DSC00054.JPG) Attachments ---------------- DSC00052.JPG (32KB - 211 downloads) DSC00053.JPG (37KB - 204 downloads) DSC00054.JPG (47KB - 178 downloads) | ||
RoyalGate |
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Expert Posts: 2011 Location: Ballwin, Missouri | Serge, Thanks a lot for all your info and pictures. I'm going to take some old 14" wheel covers that I have around here and see if I can do the same thing you did. I'm going to print your explanation and pictures to take them along. Again Thanks | ||
sermey |
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Expert Posts: 1208 Location: SWITZERLAND | Good Luck Larry for doing this job. Keep attention to well-center the ring before soldering. The Spinner HubCaps are heavy, an excentricy would be very bad when high speed running. As HupCap you need 15" ones! For detailed support contact me at sermey@bluewin.ch. - SERGE - | ||
JeremyM |
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Member Posts: 12 Location: Chattanooga, Tennessee | Hi I am Jeremy with Coker Tire. If you have any questions or fitment issues. I am here to help and answer or take care of any issues you may have. You can contact me by email jeremyM@coker.com or “PM” me and you will get a quick response. Thanks Jeremy Mann Coker Tire Representative | ||
sermey |
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Expert Posts: 1208 Location: SWITZERLAND | Larry, you have to use the 15" Hubcaps . There are also 14" Hubcaps for the same wheels, but these are too small for the 15" wheels. - SERGE - Edited by sermey 2006-11-01 4:26 PM | ||
narleycharlie |
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Expert Posts: 1812 Location: Slidell La. | I m runnin 275/60/15 on mopar cop wheels on the rear . When I had my stock rearend no problems . With an E body rear 1/4 in wider on each side scapes a little on fast curves with body roll . I have original springs and they are weak but I like the stance . And 245/60/15 on front w/no problem . NC Edited by narleycharlie 2006-11-29 9:32 PM | ||
57PlymouthNC |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 331 Location: Northern North Carolina | Were 14's standard on all '57 Belvederes? (The car is 2 hours from me, at the mechanic's, so I can't go out and check). I always thought so, but am remembering when a friend was helping me find a wheel or?? part back in the 80's and he bought the wrong part from a junk yard (I vaguely recall a "14 vs 15 inch" discussion...??). I'll be putting all new tires on the '57 Belvedere in order to put her back on the road after sooo many years. She had new tires all the way around , with probably a total of 10 miles on them (!!), but they're dry-rotted, three will hold air, but I wouldn't dare chance it. I've read several threads on size choices, looks vs. safety and ride, etc. What's the lowest cost, best-riding option, in your opinion? I think I put radials on before. What's the recommended size? (All my manuals etc are with the car). Thanks. | ||
Devioussquirrel |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 354 Location: Louisiana | NarleyCharlie, Those 245's don't cause any problems with the steering up front? The reason I ask is that I am hoping to equip my '58 Firedome with 235/75R14's all around. I'd hate to buy the wheels and tires..just to have them scrape against the fender and affect my turning radius. The recommended rim width for 235/75R14's are 6-8 inches. Since I'm buying new wheels, do you think the 8" ones might be better than the 6" version? I know it won't have much affect on the tread..but I'm thinking the tires might not bulge out as much on the wider rims. Since I'm going for a bias-ply look, that might be a good thing. | ||
58Ply |
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Veteran Posts: 142 Location: Alabama | i am currently running 215 70 R14's on my 57 plymouth on stock wheels. it looks good and the speedo is dead on. clocked it with my wifes car. they are bf goodrich radials, with small whitewall. Craig. | ||
1960fury |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7402 Location: northern germany | 225/70-14 diamond back wide whitewalls. they look perfect. | ||
57PlymouthNC |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 331 Location: Northern North Carolina | Thanks for info, guys. I did find one of my original manuals, which says only "7.50 x 14". I may have checked into all the details when I bought the last set, but it's been too long for me to remember. Sam 1957 Plymouth Belvedere, 318 2nd Owner | ||
57plymouth |
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Expert Posts: 3577 Location: Blythewood, SC | I have 205/75/14 which is the same height as a 225/70/14 but not as wide. They were the biggest my limited budget could afford at the time. | ||
lawrence |
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Expert Posts: 3951 Location: Bama | I have 205/75R14(5.5" wide rims) on the front and 225/70R14(7" wide rims) on the back. Looks awesome. | ||
Rebels-59 |
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Board Moderator & Exner Expert 10K+ Location: .Norfolk..Mafia.. ,England UK | I have 215/75/14 on the 59 Dodge, And 215/75/15 on the 59 Chrysler Although this should be on 14,s ( and ya i know my speedo will read wrong But Fuel Comsumption on Highway has Improved ) Both fitted on Standard Width Rims, Both Handle Extremely Nice.. | ||
lawrence |
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Expert Posts: 3951 Location: Bama | Here's a pic of my different size tars. Can't tell from the pic but in person you can tell the backs are wider. http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f310/Larry57savoy/57006.jpg | ||
narleycharlie |
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Expert Posts: 1812 Location: Slidell La. | No , I don t have any clearence issues with those on the front . Turning or bottoming out , no scrapes . These are some huge cars and in my opinion 14s just don t look rite on them , I like a fat tucked look . The 245s were old used tires when installed , just wanted to try them on for looks b4 I dropped the coins for new ones . I have 2 sets of cop car wheels . The set I had on the car were old and dryrotted , weeds got tall in the yard , and I literally lost my other set in them (lol) . After new motor and tranny went in I knew I would have a lead foot and dem old tires would fail at top end . I found my other set in the weeds and forgot I had new rubbers on them , 275/15 out back and 205/75/15 up front . Got the cheapy 205 when money was tight , then didn t like the look after a while , thats when they got tossed into the yard . In this shot is the 205/75/15 up front and 275/60/15 out back . Edited by narleycharlie 2007-10-28 12:58 AM (car.JPG) Attachments ---------------- car.JPG (52KB - 173 downloads) | ||
lawrence |
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Expert Posts: 3951 Location: Bama | Nice pic NC. | ||
57PlymouthNC |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 331 Location: Northern North Carolina | I went out to where the 57 Belvedere is, today. Checked the tires. They are 215/75/14's, radials. I'll probably go with that again, unless there's a reason not to. | ||
narleycharlie |
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Expert Posts: 1812 Location: Slidell La. | There s something about a tall sidewall that just don t look correct anymore . With all these low profile tires the tall sidewall don t look good . If you notice in the pic above of my 59 Ply with the larger rim and smaller tire , it looks more proportioned , than a tall profile 14" wheel , plus you ll have less sidewall to flex , ie better handling . | ||
My58PlymouthFury |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 397 Location: McHenry Illinois | 1960fury - 2006-09-24 8:47 AM 225/70-14 diamond back wide whitewalls (61 desoto) Me too. Love 'em! | ||
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