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61Newport413
Posted 2007-05-15 10:45 PM (#83099 - in reply to #80614)
Subject: Re: Fender tag decoding


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The car was delivered to my grandfather on Sept 12 of 1961 so the car was about 4 months old and had just under 10,000 miles. It now has 65,000 miles. He was told that after the testing that it was driven by another executive for a few months. He did not know how many test miles were run. The car had not been titled and the invoice Chrysler provided for the transfer referred to the car as an executive purchase.

I have spoken with a fellow that worked for Carter at the time doing special work with Chrysler. He suggested that some of the testing could have been to finalize the carburetor specs as they would have been supplied to Chrysler in August at the start of the 62 model year. I assume that the testing could also have been to finalize items like spring rates, shocks, tire size, etc. Bruce Thomas ran the truck proving ground group at the same time and said that after the testing was done and engineering reports made all the records were routinely destroyed so we would not have a way of knowing exactly what testing was done unless we find the people that ordered and performaed the testing.

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FinFan
Posted 2007-05-24 7:35 AM (#84082 - in reply to #80614)
Subject: Re: Fender tag decoding


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Location: Poznan, Poland, Europe		Gee, and I thought that I'll be at least able to see difference in standard and Custom Coronets by absence of rear fin ribbed trim and the so-called gills, - judging by my private observations from pictures, but this thread had taken this hope away from me now there's even more trim combinations, and the most shocking one with plain side without spear at all.

Edited by FinFan 2007-05-24 7:37 AM
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d500neil
Posted 2007-05-24 3:47 PM (#84106 - in reply to #80614)
Subject: Re: Fender tag decoding



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Location: bishop, ca		NOPE; James; ya gotta look INSIDE a Coro, to see if it's "Custom-ized" , or not!

The front-and-rear seats, with their NOTCHED(depressed-)-center-sections, are easy give-ways, though!!!!

Yeah seeing-is-usually-believing; who would have thought (believed) that there WAS such a critter, as a plain-sided Coro!!!!






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FinFan
Posted 2007-05-25 2:54 AM (#84172 - in reply to #80614)
Subject: Re: Fender tag decoding


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Location: Poznan, Poland, Europe		 thanks for at least one steadily present feature of Customs. But in my pics I've also found a Dodge Royal with such notched seats, so it will have to take "step 2 - watching what's written on the fin's beginning"
As for plain-sided Coronet, logically it's a natural condition for a lowest model, 1959 Ch**y Biscayne also had not much trim on the side, I only would doubt if growing-up standards of car's equipment would allow such thing after a decade of spicing-up even the cheapest models (trimless front windshields were absent for example).



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d500neil
Posted 2007-05-25 6:15 PM (#84228 - in reply to #80614)
Subject: Re: Fender tag decoding



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Location: bishop, ca		Hey, James; the ROY's SHOULD have, as standard-equipment, notched seat backs (that's one reason that they're BETTER than the Coros--BUAHAHAHAHA)
whereas, the standard Coro-model included straight-across seat-backs; one had to buy/order the Custom Coronet (sub-model)
to get such things as carpeting, and the notched seat-backs.

The Coronet "Custom" sub-model-stuff was all-located inside the car; no exterior call-outs, or trim-items identified a Custom Coronet.





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d500neil
Posted 2007-05-25 6:25 PM (#84229 - in reply to #80614)
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Location: bishop, ca		James, it can take a TRAINED-eye, to spot the three models' exterior differences, from afar!

The ROY's & CRL's have that wide-FLUTED lower-side molding, and only the CRL's had the "gear-cog" trim, around the
front parking lights.

Those items, and, reading the nameplate on the front-of-fin.

Of course, the interiors featured different upholstery, but we're talking easy exterior identification, here!

Well, and, the only 2-door sedans and 2-door station wagons (the Suburbans) were Coronets (trim-style).






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d500neil
Posted 2007-05-25 6:28 PM (#84230 - in reply to #80614)
Subject: Re: Fender tag decoding



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Location: bishop, ca		..I meant to say, above: ....front-of-fin, OR, on the fender (for the Coros).
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FinFan
Posted 2007-05-26 5:19 PM (#84282 - in reply to #80614)
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Location: Poznan, Poland, Europe		Thanks for patience and clear explanation I knew about the gear-trim around parking lights on CRL's, just didn't knew how long it was available down the models, looks like it doesn't go behind Royals.

With the Custom Coronet it seems to mean that it was only a name for a certain level of equipment, like it went on '55-'57 Hudson Hornets where Customs had 2 tone paint and a few more chrome accents here and there, nothing more, but thanks to that were more expensice than Supers. On Dodge, the ladder would go as : Coronet- Custom Coronet- Royal- Custom Royal

I have now noticed that Royals have heavier looking, longer and ribbed "shield" on the beginning of the fin where the name is put. The chrome band on the lower edge of fin is wider too...Coronet has those details in the style of 1957 models, smaller and narrower.
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d500neil
Posted 2007-09-14 6:38 PM (#96699 - in reply to #80614)
Subject: Re: Fender tag decoding



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Location: bishop, ca		Thought I'd bump this, to the top of the board, for easy access, for James to find!!
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Bart_59_Dodge
Posted 2007-12-02 8:35 PM (#105660 - in reply to #80614)
Subject: Re: Fender tag decoding



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Location: Oconomowoc Wi		Neil,

Can you look back at the broadcast sheet I posted earlier in thie thread and tell me what gear ratio I have in the rear axel ?
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Rebels-59
Posted 2007-12-03 6:45 AM (#105702 - in reply to #80614)
Subject: Re: Fender tag decoding



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Location: .Norfolk..Mafia.. ,England UK		I have just Aquired a Book on 55-61 Chrysler 300,s.. It lists a lot factory No,s for Decoding and Paint No,s , So if any one wants a Number decoded i may be able to Help

Should of mentioned, Most No,s are for the Options when Ordered New

Edited by Rebels-59 Coronet 2007-12-03 6:50 AM
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d500neil
Posted 2008-01-10 9:35 PM (#110350 - in reply to #80614)
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Location: bishop, ca		Bart, I see your axle ratio is "53 3" ; I PRESUME that it is the standard 3.36:1 open rear end.

BUT: if you can get under the differential assembly (that's the removable section, facing forward), there is a small "flat" area,
on the passenger's-side, where the factory VERY-lightly stamped the axle ratio.

You may have to use a wire-brush, and/or some rust-remover, to get the grunge off of that small area, but, you WILL be
rewarded by seeing the axle-ratio appear, as a thin-stamping impression, on that 'flat' area.

Let us know what you discover!



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