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Expert Posts: 3887      Location: Northen Virginia | some changes (station.jpg) Attachments ----------------  station.jpg (110KB - 281 downloads) | ||
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Expert Posts: 3069 Location: Scotland | another DeSoto outside a Motor Hotel,this time a '58 Firesweep (postcardCharlestonSCDeSoto.jpg) Attachments ---------------- postcardCharlestonSCDeSoto.jpg (97KB - 289 downloads) | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 1172 Location: Georgia | Not only is the Heart of Charleston AAA approved, but it's also the heart fund HQ! Kool postcard! The "Quality Courts" logo at the bottom of the sign indicates this motel was part of the Quality Inn family, which is still around today as Quality/Clarion/Comfort Inns.  Here's a few more photos, I haven't a clue what they're strapping on the wagon in the second photo? Pete (70.JPG) (71.JPG) Attachments ---------------- 70.JPG (56KB - 272 downloads) 71.JPG (35KB - 278 downloads) | ||
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Expert Posts: 2905 Location: little rock, AR | |||
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146  Location: bishop, ca | |||
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| Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | Not only is the Heart of Charleston AAA approved, but it's also the heart fund HQ! Kool postcard! The "Quality Courts" logo at the bottom of the sign indicates this motel was part of the Quality Inn family, which is still around today as Quality/Clarion/Comfort Inns. Here's a few more photos, I haven't a clue what they're strapping on the wagon in the second photo? Pete **************************************** I am just pleased to see they have a "cool pool" (as opposed to the bubbling vat) So, .... what do we supposed this descending set of of concentric rings these cars are parked on lead to ? (70.JPG) (70.JPG) Not sure why the photo is not copying ....  Edited by Doctor DeSoto 2010-08-18 8:07 PM | ||
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Expert Posts: 1480 Location: Australia | oh how exciting! if only i could get a picture of my Oscar under that sign adriana | ||
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Expert Posts: 3480 Location: Montreal, Canada | suburban61 - 2010-08-18 9:07 PM oh how exciting! if only i could get a picture of my Oscar under that sign adrianaYou'll have to come to Montreal!  | ||
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Expert Posts: 1480 Location: Australia | soiouz - 2010-08-18 9:57 PM suburban61 - 2010-08-18 9:07 PM oh how exciting! if only i could get a picture of my Oscar under that sign adrianaYou'll have to come to Montreal! ;) and bring oscar in my suitcase adriana | ||
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Expert Posts: 1363 Location: Apeldoorn, Netherlands | 1957 DeSoto Adventurer at L Motel in Flagstaff, Arizona dodge.forwardlook.eu/postcards/cards/AZFlagstaffLMotel.php/ Edited by Jim Hoek 2010-08-19 11:17 AM | ||
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| Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | I am beginning to suspect it was a mandatory piece of equipment for postcard photographers to be driving and positioning their finned DeSotos in the postcards themselves. Look at the dark blue 57 Fireflite sedan, this Adventurer, and the red and white 58 Firedome 2ht that show up in repeated postcards. The other Adventurer shot was in Arizona too. I ain't no detective, but I am seeing patterns .... | ||
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Inactive by user's request Location: Las Vegas, Nevada | These next photos were taken in Philadelphia, 1957 - '65: (philly00020.jpg) (philly00021.jpg) (philly00022.jpg) (philly00023.jpg) Attachments ---------------- philly00020.jpg (90KB - 283 downloads) philly00021.jpg (61KB - 278 downloads) philly00022.jpg (129KB - 268 downloads) philly00023.jpg (107KB - 262 downloads) | ||
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Inactive by user's request Location: Las Vegas, Nevada | These next two photos, taken in the Philadelphia suburbs, 1965, prove Doc's point. Other than the '58 Olds, there are NO finned cars to be seen in this more affluent area. One has to wonder if the suburbanites were more style-conscious than their city counterparts, who most likely, were less affluent, and/or less concerned with keeping up with the Joneses. Photos taken within the city's working class areas during the mid 1960s yield a good number of still presentable finned automobiles, mixed in with their fin-less successors. K. Edited by Kenny J. 2010-08-19 1:40 PM (redarrow00010.jpg) (redarrow00009.jpg) Attachments ---------------- redarrow00010.jpg (93KB - 261 downloads) redarrow00009.jpg (76KB - 265 downloads) | ||
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Expert Posts: 3480 Location: Montreal, Canada | Jim Hoek - 2010-08-19 10:30 AM 1958 DeSoto Adventurer at L Motel in Flagstaff, Arizona Super nice photo! The car is a 1957, though, not a 1958! | ||
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Expert Posts: 1363 Location: Apeldoorn, Netherlands | |||
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Expert Posts: 3069 Location: Scotland | Doctor DeSoto - 2010-08-19 10:36 AM I am beginning to suspect it was a mandatory piece of equipment for postcard photographers to be driving and positioning their finned DeSotos in the postcards themselves. Look at the dark blue 57 Fireflite sedan, this Adventurer, and the red and white 58 Firedome 2ht that show up in repeated postcards. The other Adventurer shot was in Arizona too. I ain't no detective, but I am seeing patterns .... I thought the same right away too (Picture 486.jpg) (postcardDeSotoAdvArizona.jpg) Attachments ---------------- Picture 486.jpg (51KB - 270 downloads) postcardDeSotoAdvArizona.jpg (26KB - 264 downloads) | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 1172 Location: Georgia | Hey Kenny, if affluence means no more fins, may I always be poor!  Those are great photos. Here are a few DeSoto-less photos, the second one featuring another appearance of fine Schlitz, this time to take out, with I believe a '61 Plymouth parked on the end. Location unknown. Pete (72.JPG) (73.JPG) (74.JPG) Attachments ---------------- 72.JPG (50KB - 265 downloads) 73.JPG (60KB - 283 downloads) 74.JPG (82KB - 267 downloads) | ||
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Expert Posts: 1480 Location: Australia | SavoyPlaza - 2010-08-20 10:51 AM Hey Kenny, if affluence means no more fins, may I always be poor! Those are great photos. Here are a few DeSoto-less photos, the second one featuring another appearance of fine Schlitz, this time to take out, with I believe a '61 Plymouth parked on the end. Location unknown. Pete gees, some ones got good eyesight, not even i saw the '61 in that picture before i read your description! adriana | ||
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Expert Posts: 3480 Location: Montreal, Canada | SavoyPlaza - 2010-08-20 10:51 AM Hey Kenny, if affluence means no more fins, may I always be poor! Those are great photos. Here are a few DeSoto-less photos, the second one featuring another appearance of fine Schlitz, this time to take out, with I believe a '61 Plymouth parked on the end. Location unknown. Pete On that first picture from Lake Louise, the car is a Canadian 1957 Dodge Mayfair sedan. | ||
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Expert Posts: 1363 Location: Apeldoorn, Netherlands | SavoyPlaza - 2010-08-20 4:51 PM Hey Kenny, if affluence means no more fins, may I always be poor! Those are great photos. Here are a few DeSoto-less photos, the second one featuring another appearance of fine Schlitz, this time to take out, with I believe a '61 Plymouth parked on the end. Location unknown. Pete Of course we already knew, but still, there's something nice about the late fifties era. Even the dresses were more then nice, as shown in that last photo. | ||
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| Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | Kenny J. - 2010-08-20 8:02 AM These next two photos, taken in the Philadelphia suburbs, 1965, prove Doc's point. Other than the '58 Olds, there are NO finned cars to be seen in this more affluent area. One has to wonder if the suburbanites were more style-conscious than their city counterparts, who most likely, were less affluent, and/or less concerned with keeping up with the Joneses. Photos taken within the city's working class areas during the mid 1960s yield a good number of still presentable finned automobiles, mixed in with their fin-less successors. K. ************************************************* I was a rabid car fan as a kid .... I mean REALLY bad ! I paid WAY more attention to this stuff than any of my friends. We also lived all "uptown" in "the Burbs" and for the most part everyone drove the latest and greatest. It was my experience that those old finned cars were an utter embarrassment to the people of my parents' age around the neighborhood, and I still recall them bellyaching about them. But out in other parts of town they were all over. There were those few more conservative types in our neighborhood that kept their finned Lincolns and such, but I remember the big deal made when the cool finned cars got traded in for a 66 Riviera or something similar.  Edited by Doctor DeSoto 2010-08-20 5:57 PM | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 1172 Location: Georgia | Three more, the first labeled I-91 orientation at Bellows Falls exit. The second unknown, and the third looks like Canadia's answer to the south Georgia welcome wagon! Pete (75 i91 orientation Bellows Falls.JPG) (76.JPG) (77.JPG) Attachments ---------------- 75 i91 orientation Bellows Falls.JPG (54KB - 272 downloads) 76.JPG (72KB - 270 downloads) 77.JPG (30KB - 267 downloads) | ||
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| Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | The 2nd photo shows a California plate on the Fiat. The location looks EXACTLY like Lake Heights Shopping Center where my best friend and I would walk to buy bubble gum with the Odd Rods cards in them. That was right around 1966-69. | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7207 Location: Victoria, BC, on Vancouver Island, Canada | soiouz - 2010-08-20 8:22 AM SavoyPlaza - 2010-08-20 10:51 AM Hey Kenny, if affluence means no more fins, may I always be poor! Those are great photos. Here are a few DeSoto-less photos, the second one featuring another appearance of fine Schlitz, this time to take out, with I believe a '61 Plymouth parked on the end. Location unknown. Pete On that first picture from Lake Louise, the car is a Canadian 1957 Dodge Mayfair sedan. I had dinner in that very same hotel, the Post Hotel, Lake Louise, in 1979 on a trip back to BC from Alberta. | ||
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Expert Posts: 3480 Location: Montreal, Canada | I stumbled upon this picture for sale on Ebay and I wonder if it could be another late '57 Fury with parts of both year's models. The plate on the car apparently dates the picture to 1958 or 1959. The car obviously has 1957 headlights, fender ornaments and hood letters, but has the 1958 grille "V" and lower valence and grille. http://cgi.ebay.com/1958-PLYMOUTH-FURY-4-x-6-vintage-photo-/2206576... (!B0)wctgEGk~$(KGrHqIOKi!E)MmUjknMBMb)DV,iww~~_3.jpg) (!B0)wev!B2k~$(KGrHqYOKjIE)OJ1,T!ZBMb)DfFn9!~~_3.jpg) Attachments ---------------- !B0)wctgEGk~$(KGrHqIOKi!E)MmUjknMBMb)DV,iww~~_3.jpg (63KB - 275 downloads) !B0)wev!B2k~$(KGrHqYOKjIE)OJ1,T!ZBMb)DfFn9!~~_3.jpg (63KB - 285 downloads) | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 1172 Location: Georgia | A few more glimpses of time travel. Pete (78.JPG) (79.JPG) (81.JPG) Attachments ---------------- 78.JPG (36KB - 268 downloads) 79.JPG (43KB - 279 downloads) 81.JPG (45KB - 280 downloads) | ||
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Expert Posts: 1363 Location: Apeldoorn, Netherlands | 1959 Dodge Coronet Lancer at Sonoma Motor Inn in Winnemucca, Nevada dodge.forwardlook.eu/postcards/cards/NVWinnemuccaSonomaInn.php/ | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 988 Location: Kansas City, Kansas | SavoyPlaza - 2010-08-23 7:51 AM A few more glimpses of time travel. Pete What a great "fin show" (fin show.jpg) Attachments ---------------- fin show.jpg (45KB - 252 downloads) | ||
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Expert Posts: 1363 Location: Apeldoorn, Netherlands | 1958 DeSoto Firedome Sportsman at TraveLodge in San Diego, California dodge.forwardlook.eu/postcards/cards/CASanDiegoTraveLodge.php/ | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 693 Location: Kangasala, Finland | Jim Hoek - 2010-08-24 1:18 PM 1958 DeSoto Firedome Sportsman at TraveLodge in San Diego, California Ah, THE Soto with the white hood again. | ||
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Expert Posts: 1363 Location: Apeldoorn, Netherlands | 1958 Dodge Coronet at Trans-Canada Highway at Lake Superior, Ontario dodge.forwardlook.eu/postcards/cards/ONLakeSuperiorTransCanadaHighway.php/ | ||
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | |||
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Expert Posts: 1728 Location: Fleetwood, Pa | |||
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Expert Posts: 1363 Location: Apeldoorn, Netherlands | 1958 Chrysler Saratoga at Hy-Way Motel in Fairfax, Virginia dodge.forwardlook.eu/postcards/cards/VAFairfaxHyWayMotel.php/ | ||
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Location: Parts Unknown | d500neil - 2010-08-25 11:38 AM ..And, 6 of the 7 cars parked in front of Frank Palumbo's watering hole were '59 models, with only a 1958 DeSoto, there to keep them company.---the '57 Chubbie doesn't count. ********************************** Note the monotone (single side chrome spear - no sweep) paint on the 58 DeSoto ! For all the cars like this I have seen in these postcards and old photos - which aren't many - I have only seen ONE single example of this anti-option in a surviving car. There was a second one shown in pictures on this list, I believe out of NY .... dark blue 4HT Firesweep ? Very rare. Should I ever find the right car, I would love to do a bare bones stripper DeSoto restoration with the monotone paint, dog dish hubcaps, body colored wheels, .... would make a great contrast car to my Fireflite. | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 1172 Location: Georgia | Three more, the first from the movie The Misfits, and that's Clark Gable and Marilyn Monroe. The second is Excelsior Springs, and the third is your guess is as good as mine! Enjoy Pete (80 Misfits.JPG) (82 ExcelsiorSprings.JPG) (83.JPG) Attachments ---------------- 80 Misfits.JPG (38KB - 264 downloads) 82 ExcelsiorSprings.JPG (30KB - 254 downloads) 83.JPG (47KB - 241 downloads) | ||
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Expert Posts: 3069 Location: Scotland | SavoyPlaza - 2010-08-25 5:04 PM Three more, the first from the movie The Misfits, and that's Clark Gable and Marilyn Monroe. The second is Excelsior Springs, and the third is your guess is as good as mine! Enjoy Pete The bottom one is US Highway 90 at Biloxi,just along from President Jefferson Davis home Beauvoir,I haven't been there in 10 years but it hadn't changed much up until then,probably has since then due to Hurricane Katrina. (US90BiloxiMS.JPG) Attachments ---------------- US90BiloxiMS.JPG (47KB - 252 downloads) | ||
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Expert Posts: 3069 Location: Scotland | D500Jim - 2010-08-25 10:38 AM 1958 Chrysler Saratoga at Hy-Way Motel in Fairfax, Virginia dodge.forwardlook.eu/postcards/cards/VAFairfaxHyWayMotel.php/ Stayed at this Motel in 2005 when I was in town getting some trucks at Ted Britt Ford,hadn't changed much. (PostcardFairfaxVa.jpg) Attachments ---------------- PostcardFairfaxVa.jpg (43KB - 808 downloads) | ||
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Expert Posts: 1363 Location: Apeldoorn, Netherlands | 1957 Plymouth Belvedere on Mackinac Straits Bridge at Mackinaw City, Michigan dodge.forwardlook.eu/postcards/cards/MIMackinawCityMackinacBridge.php | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 1172 Location: Georgia | Mark, were the folks at the HyWay still proud of their 'Free TV'? I wonder what the red middle lanes are on the Mackinac bridge? Here's another unknown locale photo. Pete (84.JPG) Attachments ---------------- 84.JPG (101KB - 253 downloads) | ||
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | |||
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Expert Posts: 3887 Location: Northen Virginia | |||
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Expert Posts: 3480 Location: Montreal, Canada | Another one with the photographer's red and white '58 Desoto: http://cgi.ebay.com/El-Monte-CA-Roadside-Motel-1950s-Cars-1958-DeSo... (ElMonteRanchoDescanso0001.jpg) Attachments ---------------- ElMonteRanchoDescanso0001.jpg (250KB - 259 downloads) | ||
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | |||
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Location: Parts Unknown | d500neil - 2010-08-27 11:46 AM I was going to opine that the red areas are expanded-metal, for water drainage, but, that pattern apparently exists over the raised(?) center section, too...so, dunno. However, and as I experienced while driving 'slowly' over that nasty bridge between Portland& Washington state (IIRC) during the 1998(?) WPC national Meet, in Portland, it is VERY difficult to maintain directional control of our cars when driving over an expanded metal bridge surface!!!! ************************************** I would submit that the red painted lanes are "alert" painted for head-on crash awareness (?) Those grate surface bridge decks have always given that wiggly sensation to cars riding on bias-ply tires, probably moreso that Neil's acclaimed Diamondback radials (or any other radial for that matter). Call me "weird", but I enjoy driving on those old style bridges as one of those time capsule experiences that was common when our cars were new. A little hair raising when you are a half mile over the water and can see right through the deck ? You bet ! But methinks you are being a little dramatic saying it is VERY difficult to maintain directional control. My Ex grew up there in Hood River and for many years I drove that bridge 50-100 times a year. It was no big deal in 1958, and it is no big deal now. I think we all get a little spoiled with big, wide freeways and plowed snow. I remember a lot of switchback mountain highways when I was a kid. Here is a little video of Engineer Pass in Colorado. Passable even in a 58 DeSoto ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHHvcUaiDSM | ||
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | |||
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Expert Posts: 1363 Location: Apeldoorn, Netherlands | 1957 Plymouth Savoy at Monterey Court Motel in St. Augustine, Florida dodge.forwardlook.eu/postcards/cards/FLStAugustineMontereyCourtMotel.php | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 1172 Location: Georgia | You can almost smell the salt air in that one, Jim. (By the way, I'm still not used to your (handle) name change! ) Here are two snapshots of some stately wagons. Pete (85.JPG) (86.JPG) Attachments ---------------- 85.JPG (20KB - 259 downloads) 86.JPG (22KB - 263 downloads) | ||
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Location: Parts Unknown | d500neil - 2010-08-27 6:13 PM Hey, Doc; I didn't have the Diamondbacks on Horrie in 1998, but they were radial tires, and driving over that accursed bridge, at 35 mph felt like driving on glare ice!!! ****************************** Oh. I know ! ..... it feels like the car is going 12 ways at once, ... hence the term "wigglies". But having the "luxury" of driving that bridge a lot, I got the chance to find it vacant a few times and played with the car, swerving back and forth, braking, different speeds, etc. No real worries. It is just the varied directional decking surface that grabs the tires momentarily, creating that "loose" feel under the car. If you liked it with radials, you'd love it on the even more wandering BFG Silvertowns I run ! | ||
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Expert Posts: 1363 Location: Apeldoorn, Netherlands | About the Mackinac Bridge deck..., anybody interested in an inspection, there's the annual Mackinac Bridge Walk on September 6, 2010: http://mackinacbridge.org/annual-bridge-walk-7/ (MackinacBridgeTwo.jpg) Attachments ---------------- MackinacBridgeTwo.jpg (60KB - 260 downloads) | ||
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