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56D500boy
Posted 2021-11-17 8:10 PM (#616947 - in reply to #616945)
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So its a fake "old" picture, shame on me, I didn't notice.


Don't get your Höschen in a bunch there, Sid. Nobody said it was a "fake" old photo. He said:

NicksGarage - 2021-11-17 10:03 AM
Those look like the wire wheels that came on 1980s Lincolns.


Big difference between "look like" and "are".

Maybe the 1980's Lincoln wheels looked like 1960 Chrysler/Desoto aftermarket wheels?

Just sayin'



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Posted 2021-11-18 1:52 AM (#616955 - in reply to #81647)
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This is a very nice photo, but it's not that old. This doesn't matter at all, it's keeping the thread alive.
If I recall correctly, the photo has been posted here before and we discussed it as well back then.

The give-away is the louvers that has fallen off on the rear panel trim. I know this since I owned a '59 New Yorker. The louvers are fixated by pot metal studs that are staked. Water, salt corrods the studs and eventually, the will start to fall off.

That would not have happened during the first decade of the car, maybe the second decade.

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Posted 2021-11-18 10:25 AM (#616960 - in reply to #616947)
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So its a fake "old" picture, shame on me, I didn't notice.


Don't get your Höschen in a bunch there, Sid. Nobody said it was a "fake" old photo. He said:

NicksGarage - 2021-11-17 10:03 AM
Those look like the wire wheels that came on 1980s Lincolns.


Big difference between "look like" and "are".

Maybe the 1980's Lincoln wheels looked like 1960 Chrysler/Desoto aftermarket wheels?

Just sayin'

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Did I say that? I said it is a fake "old" picture since cast aluminum wheels of that style and narrow whitewalls weren't available during the FL era and since the rest of the scenery is made to look 50s, it is a faked picture and I really didn't notice. Got it?


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Posted 2021-11-18 11:54 AM (#616966 - in reply to #81647)
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Posted 2021-11-18 4:01 PM (#616972 - in reply to #81647)
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Their clothing looks mid-sixties to early-seventies, though their hairstyles look a little earlier. I think early sixties was about the time narrow whitewalls became popular, along with red-lines and other odd tire trim.
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Posted 2021-11-18 6:49 PM (#616974 - in reply to #616972)
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GaryS - 2021-11-18 4:01 PM

Their clothing looks mid-sixties to early-seventies, though their hairstyles look a little earlier. I think early sixties was about the time narrow whitewalls became popular, along with red-lines and other odd tire trim.


Yes, 62/63 narrow whitewalls, Imo they look ghastly on a fl. My guess it is 1990+ picture, as the wheels are late 70s+ and the scenery is made like a family picture, or from a brochure. No such thing in the 80s+ with a brand new looking Forwardlook car.
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Posted 2021-11-18 10:53 PM (#616976 - in reply to #616974)
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Posted 2021-11-19 10:26 AM (#616977 - in reply to #616945)
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1960fury - 2021-11-17 3:06 PM

So its a fake "old" picture, shame on me, I didn't notice.


Sorry, wasn't trying to stir anything up. My bad.
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Posted 2021-11-19 10:47 AM (#616978 - in reply to #616977)
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So its a fake "old" picture, shame on me, I didn't notice.


Sorry, wasn't trying to stir anything up. My bad.


You didn't, I was making fun, since I hate new pictures in this thread
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Posted 2021-11-19 10:53 AM (#616979 - in reply to #616978)
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Posted 2021-11-19 3:45 PM (#616988 - in reply to #616979)
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Posted 2021-11-19 6:45 PM (#616993 - in reply to #81647)
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Posted 2021-11-19 7:43 PM (#616997 - in reply to #616993)
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Posted 2021-11-20 6:47 PM (#617015 - in reply to #616997)
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Posted 2021-11-21 12:57 AM (#617019 - in reply to #617015)
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Posted 2021-11-21 1:40 PM (#617031 - in reply to #617019)
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Posted 2021-11-22 2:25 PM (#617057 - in reply to #81647)
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Posted 2021-11-22 5:19 PM (#617073 - in reply to #617057)
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Posted 2021-11-23 12:28 PM (#617092 - in reply to #81647)
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Posted 2021-11-28 10:11 AM (#617211 - in reply to #616993)
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Somebody had some money in the family. There are 2 1957 Lincoln Premieres mixed in with the 1958 Plymouths. Either car would be desireable today.





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Posted 2021-11-28 8:01 PM (#617238 - in reply to #617019)
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Skelly1958 - 2021-11-20 10:57 PM '58 Belvedere

That looks even fancier than a Beleveder.  Could it be a Fury interior?

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Posted 2021-11-28 9:33 PM (#617240 - in reply to #617238)
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Skelly1958 - 2021-11-20 10:57 PM '58 Belvedere

That looks even fancier than a Beleveder.  Could it be a Fury interior?



Don't think so







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Posted 2021-11-28 10:26 PM (#617241 - in reply to #81647)
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The Fury above is a ‘57.
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Posted 2021-11-28 11:15 PM (#617242 - in reply to #617241)
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Viper Guy - 2021-11-28 7:26 PM
The Fury above is a ‘57.


Oops. Got that from Hagerty and missed the lack of 4 full headlights = 58. Fixed now.

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Posted 2021-11-29 7:18 AM (#617247 - in reply to #81647)
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Posted 2021-11-29 7:26 AM (#617248 - in reply to #81647)
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I just have noyiced:
The two 1958 Plymouths, but the tail lights of white Saratoga on the upper deck appears as 1957...
Looks like this picture has been made approximately in fall of 1957, when the 1957 models were unsold yet while the 1958 models have been launched
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Posted 2021-11-29 7:32 AM (#617249 - in reply to #81647)
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"This here is the best car I ever owned. Bought her in September 1957. Back then, that's when you got your new model year, in September. All summer long they'd show you pictures of cars under hoods and cars under tarps until you were fair dyin t'know what they looked like underneath. Not like now." His voice dripped contempt for the debased times he had lived to see. "Brand-new, she was. Had the smell of a brand-new car, and that's about the finest smell in the world."

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Posted 2021-11-29 10:35 AM (#617252 - in reply to #81647)
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These cars may not be transported to new car dealers. Notice all have the wheel covers on which were not installed going to dealers and the Imperial on the top has the windows down.

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Posted 2021-11-29 10:35 AM (#617253 - in reply to #617211)
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Somebody had some money in the family. There are 2 1957 Lincoln Premieres mixed in with the 1958 Plymouths. Either car would be desireable today.



Get some old mags and check the prices of @1957 finned cars in 1962...
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Posted 2021-11-29 9:16 PM (#617261 - in reply to #617252)
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Viper Guy - 2021-11-29 7:35 AM

These cars may not be transported to new car dealers. Notice all have the wheel covers on which were not installed going to dealers and the Imperial on the top has the windows down.


Yes, that picture has always bugged me. Might be dealer trade cars. Reading old car newspaper car ads there are lots of them for executive cars being offered at the end of the year.
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Posted 2021-11-30 7:29 AM (#617266 - in reply to #617261)
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The truck looks like a White Freightliner, but I can't tell the year on those things.

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Posted 2021-12-01 5:58 AM (#617305 - in reply to #81647)
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Posted 2021-12-27 6:55 AM (#617937 - in reply to #81647)
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Posted 2021-12-29 10:07 PM (#618020 - in reply to #617937)
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What the heck is that? You talk about a car that was put together with other car parts...
Plymouth door handles. '58 Dodge tail lights. And a quarter panel from a Dodge Station wagon.
What's going on?
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Posted 2021-12-30 12:47 PM (#618028 - in reply to #618020)
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It's a 1959 Dodge TAXI cab model with special "easy-entrance" doors etc..



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Posted 2021-12-30 7:39 PM (#618030 - in reply to #618020)
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What the heck is that? You talk about a car that was put together with other car parts...
Plymouth door handles. '58 Dodge tail lights. And a quarter panel from a Dodge Station wagon.
What's going on?


Might have 59 Plymouth Doors (??). Certain the front part of the rear quarter is 59 Dodge wagon - *BUT* the rear part is sedan.
Agree taillights seem to be 58 Dodge.

It could be simply a very early production pilot car put together for the advertising department. I have seen 56 Dodges in the brochures running 55 Dodge push button (not fridge door levers)
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Posted 2021-12-31 2:52 PM (#618049 - in reply to #81647)
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Here's some evidence of Chrysler building special bodies as preproduction units. This is from the filmstrip for the 1960 Chrysler vehicle lineup. 4-door sedan on one side and 4-door hardtop on the other. Of course this would be fairly easy since they could use production parts on each side.

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Posted 2022-01-05 6:25 PM (#618167 - in reply to #618049)
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Replying to the above pictures of the "hybrid sedan / hardtop, The New Yorker sedan was never offered as a sedan with the sky-high rear window, although there are some promotional photos showing them with the big rear window. The only 4 door sedan that got that sky high rear window was the US built DeSoto Adventurer. Here's a promo picture of a New Yorker sedan with the big back window. They obviously built a few pre-production models that way, but pulled the plug on them at last minute.

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This one is directly from the 1960 Parts Manual showing a New Yorker sedan with the big rear window!! Never go to production.



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Posted 2022-01-05 6:31 PM (#618169 - in reply to #618167)
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imopar380 - 2022-01-05 4:25 PM

Replying to the above pictures of the "hybrid sedan / hardtop, The New Yorker sedan was never offered as a sedan with the sky-high rear window, although there are some promotional photos showing them with the big rear window. The only 4 door sedan that got that sky high rear window was the US built DeSoto Adventurer. Here's a promo picture of a New Yorker sedan with the big back window. They obviously built a few pre-production models that way, but pulled the plug on them at last minute.




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imopar380 - 2022-01-05 4:25 PM

Replying to the above pictures of the "hybrid sedan / hardtop, The New Yorker sedan was never offered as a sedan with the sky-high rear window, although there are some promotional photos showing them with the big rear window. The only 4 door sedan that got that sky high rear window was the US built DeSoto Adventurer. Here's a promo picture of a New Yorker sedan with the big back window. They obviously built a few pre-production models that way, but pulled the plug on them at last minute.



Your 880 looks great with that big back window! The 880 sedans got that big window in 1964.
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Another pre-production car - this 1960 Polara shows the top body side molding extending all the way back to the end of the tail light. That didn't make it into productions for obvious reasons, when removing the tail light housing.



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This one is directly from the 1960 Parts Manual showing a New Yorker sedan with the big rear window!! Never go to production.


It looks like that's the combo hardtop/sedan as well.
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imopar380 - 2022-01-05 3:30 PM

This one is directly from the 1960 Parts Manual showing a New Yorker sedan with the big rear window!! Never go to production.


It looks like that's the combo hardtop/sedan as well.


I just noticed that, as well !
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No fin end chrome inserts?


I *think* that the Chromed pot metal inserts were only standard on the Custom Royals. The standard Coronets inserts were painted.
Not sure about the Royals. Maybe painted was standard and chrome was optional (??)

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Sorry Dave. It is option for all models:

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Sorry Dave. It is option for all models:


Sorry Igor. I would bet a few $$ that the chromed pot metal was standard on at least the 1959 Custom Royals.

But hey... I could be wrong. Just never seen a 59 Custom Royal without the chrome. Almost never (ever??) see a Coronet with anything but painted pot metal.



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