d500neil - 2011-06-23 2:48 PM

The two "June 1958" photos are both strange, in that the first one was obviously not taken in the late spring
but, there is (still) abundant green grass on the ground, so, the grass would not appear to go dormant during
the late Fall; the Sun is not extremely low in the sky, and the woman does not appear to be heavily dressed.

When did proper women start to wear their winter mink stoles? October?

The next photo is really confusing, because the beautiful momma is appropriately (un-)dressed for June, but
check out the attire of her daughter---full-on winter gear.

The trees are fully leaved, but the house's grass looks like it's in full winter mode...(doesn't look to be
newly-planted), but the car now has the top boot installed on it, which implies that the top's been down
for a while, in the warm weather.

Interesting to read how you Neil see things / people around the around the car. There was another card.
Link to pic http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=428585&page=128...

It looks like an early 57 NY if you see the orange color of the gauges (instrument)

d500neil - 2011-06-23 5:23 PM

OK; let's examine Mr. Happy Owner, above.

He appears to be in his late 50's, which is probably right in the middle of the market segment for 1957 New Yorker buyers.

That car would have cost $55K-$60K, in today's money, and it looks brand new in the photo.

Most people who bought new cars in the 50's paid cash for them; especially for the expensive models.

He dresses very stylishly, with a Western Bolo tie, which, in the 50's was not typically seen outside of the Southwestern
states (unless he was succoming to the influences of Davey Crockett [King of the Wild Frontier] or any of the other myriad
TV-cowboys), but, he appears comfortable in wearing that neck tie, and this photo was apparently a special event---he
may well have just bought that fine ride, as he is posing alongside it, in front of what appears to be a restaurant/bar.
(where his family might be celebrating the car's purchase?---something has induced him to pose, alone, next to his
new car).

He is definitely NOT your typical Corporation Man, in his Gray Flannel suit; he's not a boring guy, as evidenced by his choice
of (short-sleeved?) brown shirt, with that Donegal-plaid-looking coat, black dress pants, and a bolo tie, and in a neat hair cut.

He may have grown up in the Southwestern US, where he took his affinity for the wearing of bolo ties.

No cowboy boots on this man, but, he probably wouldn't mind wearing them.

His hands look like they've done their fair share of labor and he is a little bowed; he may be the owner of a construction trade
company; definitely a self-employed personna.

He exudes quiet self confidence, and a bit of a sense of humor; he's not embarrassed by having his photo be taken standing
alone outside of a restaurant, next to his new 'mount'---a convertible, btw....

His eyesight is good; no glasses seen anywhere around him, and he looks generally fit, altho 10 lbs over weight (30,
from his Army/Navy days).

Unless he's a retired officer, he didn't serve in WWII, but he could have served in Numero-Uno.

The jacket fits rather tightly around him, and the lapels are not 50's-thin, so he has had this Sports coat (no breast pocket
for a hankerchief) and definitely no side 'flap' pockets, although it has 3-buttons---and I can't see him wearing pants-to-match
with that jacket style)...for at least 10 years, but the lapels are not wide and peaked, like the suit jackets were in the mid 40's.

Except for the stomach, that jacket fits him perfectly around the neck/shoulders/wrists areas; it may well have been custom tailored,
which would explain its rather unique features (no pockets, but 3-buttons) .

And he lives somewhere in Michigan and has a beautiful 25 y.o. daughter and probably at least one grand child (with overly-
protective parents!).

He looks like he could have been one of those 1959 advertising-models who : "Drive cars that do what they look like they can do".



which history can be as you say. Have you or work in military or forensic scientists (Police):cool: . Fun to speculate man behind the car.


Edited by Windsor59 2011-06-23 11:19 PM

imopar380 - 2011-06-23 3:33 PM

would that possibly be a presidential wife like Mamie Eisenhower looking out the window?

Originally posted by carjock
"Late 50's is right in the middle of the market segment for Chrysler buyers"?

Back in those days with much lower life expectancies, I would find it hard to believe that any car maker would target any model for a crowd that old? Maybe mid to late 40's?

Doctor DeSoto - 2011-06-27 11:59 PM

We have FOUR 1956 Chevys parked in a row on Gerard St. in the photo above !