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christine-lover
Posted 2011-09-11 8:16 PM (#288517 - in reply to #81647)
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hemidave
Posted 2011-09-12 8:15 AM (#288549 - in reply to #81647)
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Ray Bell
Posted 2011-09-13 6:05 AM (#288644 - in reply to #81647)
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Location: Dalveen, Queensland, Australia		Here's a pic I found on TNF that might just about be included here...

The photo was taken in late 1965 or 1966:



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hemidave
Posted 2011-09-13 8:29 AM (#288651 - in reply to #81647)
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christine-lover
Posted 2011-09-14 5:49 AM (#288759 - in reply to #81647)
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Location: Sept. 1958		L'Academie de l'Assomption, La Sarre, Quebec



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hemidave
Posted 2011-09-14 7:45 AM (#288762 - in reply to #81647)
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d500neil
Posted 2011-09-14 3:17 PM (#288774 - in reply to #81647)
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Location: bishop, ca		And, here's Horace, paying his respects to The Queen, in Long Beach, CA, upon his arrival in CA, in June 1981,
to begin his retirement activities, after having survived his service life, in northern Indiana.

He had just been transported from Toledo, where Jeeps are built, to the CA Jeep receiving depot, in a new-Jeep car carrier,
thanks to my Dad's having some 'in's' with the factory reps, back then.

Cost $800.00, in 1981-dollars, to get him across country.

Some tourists were obviously impressed seeing him, there.

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d500neil
Posted 2011-09-14 3:27 PM (#288775 - in reply to #81647)
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Location: bishop, ca		He's seen wearing the G78x14" WWW Sears/Allstate bias plys, and the aftermarket antenna, and the mis-installed
aftermarket rear view mirrors, and the brand-new CA plates, the front one of which I'd had to screw into the valance panel,
because I had not (yet) bought the proper OEM front license plate bracket.




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Windsor59
Posted 2011-09-15 3:42 AM (#288818 - in reply to #288775)
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Location: Upplands Väsby, Sweden		Pic at DeSoto Diplomat Suburban -59 in Stockholm 1971 (built in Belgium?)




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christine-lover
Posted 2011-09-15 5:44 AM (#288819 - in reply to #81647)
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Location: Sept. 1958		Mitchell, Indiana



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hemidave
Posted 2011-09-15 7:38 AM (#288821 - in reply to #81647)
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SavoyPlaza
Posted 2011-09-15 9:59 AM (#288830 - in reply to #81647)
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Location: Georgia		That Diplomat wagon is wild, Joakim!

Here are two more old photos.
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hemidave
Posted 2011-09-15 1:35 PM (#288849 - in reply to #81647)
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Windsor59
Posted 2011-09-15 4:06 PM (#288866 - in reply to #288821)
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hemidave - 2011-09-15 7:38 AM

Assembly line


Nice pic, how they built upp a Imperial 60? or...

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hemidave
Posted 2011-09-15 4:20 PM (#288870 - in reply to #81647)
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2011-09-16 4:33 AM (#288908 - in reply to #288870)
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2011-09-16 4:35 AM (#288909 - in reply to #288870)
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hemidave
Posted 2011-09-16 6:14 AM (#288916 - in reply to #81647)
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christine-lover
Posted 2011-09-17 6:37 AM (#289004 - in reply to #81647)
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Location: Sept. 1958		Las Vegas



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hemidave
Posted 2011-09-17 8:49 AM (#289015 - in reply to #81647)
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vedette
Posted 2011-09-17 9:43 PM (#289095 - in reply to #81647)
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Location: Scotland		a 1956 Plymouth on a London street in 1976 .



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Posted 2011-09-17 9:49 PM (#289096 - in reply to #288866)
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Assembly line


Nice pic, how they built upp a Imperial 60? or...

Not sure what it is,was thinking '60 Dart or '59 Plymouth,but maybe a prototype?.



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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2011-09-18 1:26 AM (#289114 - in reply to #289096)
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and 60 Dodge. But nothing quite lines up. el Mysterio !
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hemidave
Posted 2011-09-18 2:56 PM (#289191 - in reply to #81647)
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Another assembly line



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vedette
Posted 2011-09-18 8:19 PM (#289215 - in reply to #289191)
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Another assembly line

another mystery,what are those behind the '59 Plymouth?.
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PaulH
Posted 2011-09-18 8:56 PM (#289219 - in reply to #289215)
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Location: River Falls, WI		I'm thinking Australia; notice the power brake bellows on the "wrong" side of the firewall and the remote oil filter. That truck behind looks like a Pilot House Dodge truck, which basic shell was carried forward into at least '60 down under.

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d500neil
Posted 2011-09-18 9:12 PM (#289224 - in reply to #81647)
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Location: bishop, ca		And, the antenna on the 59 Plymouth is installed on the left-side (passenger's) fender, away from the driver's-side,
just like in the U.S. .



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hemidave
Posted 2011-09-19 8:13 AM (#289262 - in reply to #81647)
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FIN ME
Posted 2011-09-19 12:36 PM (#289287 - in reply to #81647)
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Location: USA - KY		.
BTW...has anyone else noticed that in modern movies about "old times", that the old cars in these movies are always spotlessly clean?

Guess people back then were supposed to be very tidy.

GREAT old pictures...please keep them coming!
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wizard
Posted 2011-09-19 1:55 PM (#289292 - in reply to #289096)
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hemidave - 2011-09-15 7:38 AM

Assembly line


Nice pic, how they built upp a Imperial 60? or...

Not sure what it is,was thinking '60 Dart or '59 Plymouth,but maybe a prototype?.


This is surely a very interesting photo?!? The rear fin has the very same profile as the unique Crown Imperial convertible built by Ghia in 1959! The car was built for Achmad Sukarno, self-elected president of Indonesia as a 4 door convertible with the gunsight tail lights that was designed for the 56 Imperials. Here, it seems to be a 4DHT under construction, but does the sturdy rig indicate that they're converting it into a 4 door convertible??

Notes
- the media boxes hanging from above are still in use in Italian factories today
- there's another car in a workstation behind the "Imperial", it looks Europeean to me.
- there's more workstations around
- the guys looks Italian to me
- the roll of PRESTIK is marketed in South Afrika http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prestik

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d500neil
Posted 2011-09-19 4:36 PM (#289303 - in reply to #289292)
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Location: bishop, ca		Take another look at the Santa Barbara race course photo, above here, and the step-ladder-guy....



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Posted 2011-09-20 3:31 AM (#289386 - in reply to #81647)
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Posted 2011-09-20 3:36 AM (#289387 - in reply to #289386)
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Ray Bell
Posted 2011-09-20 5:50 AM (#289397 - in reply to #289219)
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Location: Dalveen, Queensland, Australia
Originally posted by PaulH
I'm thinking Australia; notice the power brake bellows on the "wrong" side of the firewall and the remote oil filter. That truck behind looks like a Pilot House Dodge truck, which basic shell was carried forward into at least '60 down under.


You could well be right...

The Pilot House truck cabs ran through until 1961 here, then they were replaced with a cab that was 'borrowed' from International Harvester. It had a few changes, but they were clearly the same cab. Probably late in '59 a new flat front was put onto the Pilot House cabs with a heavy square patterned grille and dual headlights.

In this pic I wouldn't be surprised if the cars behind the truck cab were Chrysler Royals, but I didn't realise we had pillarless 4-doors in the Dodge Custom Royals assembled here.
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57-time-machine
Posted 2011-09-20 6:16 AM (#289398 - in reply to #81647)
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hemidave
Posted 2011-09-20 8:27 AM (#289405 - in reply to #81647)
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2011-09-20 10:22 AM (#289414 - in reply to #289405)
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Location: Parts Unknown		In the above 58 Plymouth patrol car photo, ... what identifies this car as a Savoy ?

Looks to be a Plaza or non-specified model "fleet" car to my eyes. Most police cars
were sold as fleet sales. Maybe I am missing something ?



Love the 60 Dodge with the 56 vintage 15" wheels on it !!!! I parted an almost exact
same WSP car to this one back in the 80's. Wish I had just stashed it somewhere now !

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hemidave
Posted 2011-09-20 4:12 PM (#289457 - in reply to #81647)
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d500neil
Posted 2011-09-20 4:35 PM (#289462 - in reply to #289457)
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Location: bishop, ca		LOL...in the "Santa Barbara" photo, Mr. Spectator is perched on a 6' step ladder, that is being supported by two
2x6"(?) boards that are resting/laid across the bed of the Chubbie pick-m-up!

If he were to lose his balance, he'd either fall off of the side of the truck, and/or further into the truck's bed.

BTW, those are 1956 Dodge 15" dog-dishes on that MO-cruiser.

The 56-doggies were continuously used up until Dodge once again featured OEM 15" wheels on their
cars, which occurred sometime in the 60's.












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hemidave
Posted 2011-09-20 6:52 PM (#289496 - in reply to #81647)
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Posted 2011-09-20 7:16 PM (#289500 - in reply to #289496)
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hemidave
Posted 2011-09-20 8:11 PM (#289508 - in reply to #81647)
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christine-lover
Posted 2011-09-20 8:30 PM (#289512 - in reply to #289414)
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Doctor DeSoto - 2011-09-20 10:22 AM

In the above 58 Plymouth patrol car photo, ... what identifies this car as a Savoy ?

Looks to be a Plaza or non-specified model "fleet" car to my eyes. Most police cars
were sold as fleet sales. Maybe I am missing something ?



Your correct, it's a Plaza. You can tell by the side trim and the cheap fender ornaments.
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Posted 2011-09-20 8:56 PM (#289515 - in reply to #81647)
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Posted 2011-09-20 9:10 PM (#289517 - in reply to #81647)
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Posted 2011-09-21 12:09 AM (#289523 - in reply to #289457)
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Thats one fine looking '57 HT.
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57-time-machine
Posted 2011-09-21 4:21 AM (#289531 - in reply to #289414)
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Looks to be a Plaza or non-specified model "fleet" car to my eyes. Most police cars
were sold as fleet sales. Maybe I am missing something?


All the information I gathered for each of those pics are as follows:

1958 Plymouth Savoy Pursuit:
For this year only, the Pursuit Special, based on the Savoy model, was equipped with a 295 horsepower 350 CID "Golden Commando" wedge V-8. The 280 ft-lb of torque were relayed to the 3.31:1 rear axle through a 3-speed TorqueFlite automatic transmission.

1959 Plymouth Savoy Pursuit:
The Highway Patrol also used Plymouths in 1959. Based again on the Savoy model, the 1959 Plymouth Pursuit Special used the “Golden Commando” 361 CID V8, coupled to a pushbutton operated TorqueFlite automatic transmission and 3.31 rear end. They used 7.10 x 15 tires. The new engine was rated at 305 hp and 395 lb-ft torque. They were exceptional handling cars for their day and had super acceleration- would top out at approximately 120 mph.

This unit took a short sabbatical after being knocked around a little bit by a car driven by a drunk driver. After a little R & R (Remove & Replace), it was back to work and feeling better than ever. The Trooper was uninjured thanks to his safety belt.

1960 Dodge Dart Seneca:
The Highway Patrol used several makes of cars again in 1960. This Dodge Dart Seneca was probably the rarest of them all. Its chassis and driveline were identical to the 1960 Plymouth. It rode on a 118” wheelbase, was powered by the 305 hp 361 CID V-8, and used the TorqueFlite automatic transmission to send power to the 3.31:1 rear axle.

One change that made a Minnesota Highway Patrol car stand out from the crowd was the addition of white doors to the maroon paint scheme. Beginning in 1960, the doors were
painted white and a new one-piece decal included a maroon background with gold lettering. The unit number, previously displayed on the doors, was relocated to the rear of the car.

1960 Plymouth Savoy Pursuit:
The 1960 Plymouth Pursuit Special was again equipped with the 361 CID V8 and automatic transmission. Plymouth advertised the Minnesota Highway Patrol as one of several major agencies using their cars this year.

Any inconsistencies you can blame on the website where I got these pics and info.. lol..

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Posted 2011-09-21 4:38 AM (#289533 - in reply to #289531)
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This 58 Plymouth Pursuit car is identical to mine (except I have 2 extra doors) in appearance
.... same plain flat fender ornaments, same straight bar side trim coming forward on that body
crease from the rear bumper.

I guess what I'm angling at is that the Plaza could be had with either this straight bar side trim
or none at all. Same for the fender ornaments.

What I am not clear about is that perhaps the Savoy could be had on the "low end" with the Plaza
straight bar side trim ???? ..... or the low-mounted color insert trim that most Savoys are seen with.

All focus on 58 Plymouths seems to be on the Furys and Christines and no one knows a dammed
thing about the el cheapo models. So, this is a "study in progress" on my part.

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About that 60 Dodge ....

The one I parted was a 383, 4bbl, 3-onda-tree car with a 3.23 posi rear. It was a 2s Washington
State Patrol pursuit, still in original dark blue metallic paint. If memory serves, it had no model
designation tags. I deeply regret not socking that car away somewhere to be restored now when
we have all gained a greater appreciation for how cool strippers and cop cars are.
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hemidave
Posted 2011-09-21 9:18 AM (#289562 - in reply to #81647)
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Posted 2011-09-21 9:49 AM (#289568 - in reply to #289562)
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