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D500Jim |
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Expert Posts: 1363 Location: Apeldoorn, Netherlands | spinout - 2013-02-17 9:12 AM D500Jim - 2013-02-16 9:04 PM Yup, I didn't notice that red line in the first place.. Btw, see the picture for one minute, then you will find that you and your PC desk begins to slide downhill along the streets of Frisco. So life-like it feels.. These three images reminds like View Master imagery.And even greater is the SF roadside! But it seems that the red line says "no parking"? I think the Buick might have parked there because of the matching color rims | ||
hemidave |
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Expert Posts: 4654 | Overlook (Overlook.jpg) Attachments ---------------- Overlook.jpg (76KB - 190 downloads) | ||
57desoto |
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Expert Posts: 1488 Location: New Castle PA | This is NOT an old picture -- it was taken last year, I believe. It's my good friend Garry Yazell's beautiful Firedome sedan, but with the "old scenery" and the photo turned to black& white for effect. Could very easily be mistaken for an old photo! (gyazell_s25_with_plane_B&W.jpg) Attachments ---------------- gyazell_s25_with_plane_B&W.jpg (171KB - 257 downloads) | ||
D500Jim |
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Expert Posts: 1363 Location: Apeldoorn, Netherlands | VERY nice! | ||
vedette |
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Expert Posts: 3069 Location: Scotland | Abilene (AbileneTX1950s.jpg) (AbileneTX1950s..jpg) Attachments ---------------- AbileneTX1950s.jpg (78KB - 187 downloads) AbileneTX1950s..jpg (87KB - 194 downloads) | ||
hemidenis |
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Expert Posts: 3888 Location: Northen Virginia | some stiil there (st.jpg) Attachments ---------------- st.jpg (182KB - 181 downloads) | ||
hemidenis |
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Expert Posts: 3888 Location: Northen Virginia | 1961 Newport (i038622.jpg) Attachments ---------------- i038622.jpg (54KB - 174 downloads) | ||
hemidenis |
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Expert Posts: 3888 Location: Northen Virginia | another 61 Newport (ch.jpg) Attachments ---------------- ch.jpg (50KB - 182 downloads) | ||
hemidave |
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Expert Posts: 4654 | Workhorse wagon (workhorse wagon.jpg) Attachments ---------------- workhorse wagon.jpg (46KB - 182 downloads) | ||
D500Jim |
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Expert Posts: 1363 Location: Apeldoorn, Netherlands | hemidenis - 2013-02-18 2:00 AM some stiil there Nice! Walk around here: http://dodge.forwardlook.eu/postcards/cards/NYSchenectadyStateStreet.php | ||
58 300D |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 566 Location: Wichita, Kansas | Wow, the 'Black Bopper' racing the 38 Century is a 57 Fuelie Bonneville! Awesome photo! Edited by 58 300D 2013-02-18 11:34 AM | ||
Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | I see they took the front bumper off. Still, that is a whole lot of extra iron to haul down the track with that convertible frame and added widgets. Was the old doghouse F/I unit really that potent to overcome the added weight ? | ||
58 DESOTOS RULE |
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Expert Posts: 2308 Location: The Bat Cave, Fairborn, OH | An S-25 in front of a B-25 if I'm not mistaken. Where was this picture taken exactly? Note the old pontoon fendered 1940s staff car in the background... Edited by 58 DESOTOS RULE 2013-02-18 3:00 PM (1957 De Soto S-25 with B-25.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 1957 De Soto S-25 with B-25.jpg (171KB - 251 downloads) | ||
58 300D |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 566 Location: Wichita, Kansas | Edward, great photo, and if you don't look too closely, it does look vintage. The B-25 is the CAF's 'Miss Mitchell'. | ||
mrtester |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 802 Location: Norcross (Atlanta area), GA | Moline, Illinois 1965 (mli65.jpg) Attachments ---------------- mli65.jpg (78KB - 183 downloads) | ||
hemidave |
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Expert Posts: 4654 | Imperial (Imperial.jpg) Attachments ---------------- Imperial.jpg (88KB - 179 downloads) | ||
wizard |
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Board Moderator & Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 13053 Location: Southern Sweden - Sturkö island | and, one of the boys staring into the unthinkable luxury of the Impreesive Imperial, might be one of our members, today owning such a limosine. I know too well that impressions in that age burns into the retinas and brain forever | ||
55BlueHeron |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 528 Location: Medford Oregon | Is that Dwight and Mamie Eisenhower and their 1958 Crown Imperial? | ||
Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | That's a 60 Ghia limo, and yes, that's Dwight and Mamie. Remember when Presidents were "presidential" ? No shorts, no ball cap, no pitbull-ugly wife saying she's NOW proud to be an American. | ||
d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | That photo was taken in the Palm Springs area...where a lot of us probably wish that they were, too, right now. And, both boys are wondering about the goings on, in the back seat of that limo.... Edited by d500neil 2013-02-19 8:03 PM | ||
mrtester |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 802 Location: Norcross (Atlanta area), GA | The Golden Commando has landed! (sc62.jpg) Attachments ---------------- sc62.jpg (266KB - 177 downloads) | ||
wizard |
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Board Moderator & Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 13053 Location: Southern Sweden - Sturkö island | d500neil - 2013-02-20 1:58 AM And, both boys are wondering about the goings on, in the back seat of that limo.... or dwelling over the possibilities of such a back seat | ||
mrtester |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 802 Location: Norcross (Atlanta area), GA | Power Giants and Power Wagons populate a 1958 car show! (1958DodgePowerTruckWeb.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 1958DodgePowerTruckWeb.jpg (280KB - 190 downloads) | ||
hemidave |
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Expert Posts: 4654 | UCLA (UCLA.jpg) Attachments ---------------- UCLA.jpg (95KB - 182 downloads) | ||
Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | hemidave - 2013-02-21 5:47 AM UCLA ================================== How is that pronounced ? ..... Ooh-Kluh ? | ||
vedette |
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Expert Posts: 3069 Location: Scotland | Los Angeles 1965 (LosAngeles1965.jpg) (LA1965_58Dodge.jpg) Attachments ---------------- LosAngeles1965.jpg (103KB - 181 downloads) LA1965_58Dodge.jpg (103KB - 174 downloads) | ||
hemidenis |
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Expert Posts: 3888 Location: Northen Virginia | Nice pic of the Eisenhower family. Doc I can pretty much guarantee that a pitbull would never be a first lady ever again | ||
hemidave |
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Expert Posts: 4654 | New Yorker (Grandparents.jpg) Attachments ---------------- Grandparents.jpg (106KB - 172 downloads) | ||
Ray Bell |
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Expert Posts: 2474 Location: Dalveen, Queensland, Australia | You've just got to wonder what's behind a photo like that, don't you? Here we have a couple who would appear to be at least near 70 if not in their seventies. It's taken about 1960, so they both predate the normal usage of cars. They grew up at a time when cars were rarely seen, at least until they reached their mid- to late-teens. Is this a sign of them having 'made the grade' to have this New Yorker? It doesn't look like it's new, but it isn't very old. Have they just bought it? What's the occasion? Wonderful stuff... | ||
sidesho_bob1961 |
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Expert Posts: 1728 Location: Fleetwood, Pa | Or maybe the cheap skate just came home from the tire store with his brand new blackwalls and wanted a reminder photo for the rest of his life.... Edited by sidesho_bob1961 2013-02-21 9:51 AM | ||
oldwood |
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Expert Posts: 2905 Location: little rock, AR | sidesho_bob1961 - 2013-02-21 9:48 AM At least he has a NY'er to put them on!!!Or maybe the cheap skate just came home from the tire store with his brand new blackwalls and wanted a reminder photo for the rest of his life.... :laugh: | ||
sidesho_bob1961 |
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Expert Posts: 1728 Location: Fleetwood, Pa | Good point.......I guess it could have been a Rambler........ | ||
Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | ... or a Studebaker Scotsman ! | ||
55BlueHeron |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 528 Location: Medford Oregon | Some people like my father hated whitewalls. I remember him having whitewalls turned to the inside. In 1956 he ordered a new Chrysler Windsor Town and Country that we picked up at the factory. He had the money and order exactly what he wanted. Extra cost items were Powerflight, power steering, radio, heater, front seat belts, bumper guards. No outside mirror, black wall tires, no power windows or seats. He added seat belts in the back and an outside mirror later. (btw - If my mother had wanted whitewalls it would have had whitewalls.) My 1955 Chrysler came from the factory with the extra cost Blue Heron package that upgraded the trim and appointments, but it too came new with black wall tires. | ||
sidesho_bob1961 |
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Expert Posts: 1728 Location: Fleetwood, Pa | I'm sure "back in the day" more cars had blackwalls than whitewalls. But I would think more Chrysler New Yorkers had whitewalls than blackwalls from the factory.......shame we can't go back and start counting.... Edited by sidesho_bob1961 2013-02-21 3:14 PM | ||
Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | I came into the old car scene pretty well dialed in on the whitewall concept ... old cars had whitewalls. It was part and parcel with being an old car. God wanted it that way, and so it was done ! Then I met some "more sophisticated" cats in the old car scene who swam in the waters of Packard, Pierce, Auburn, and Cord. Many of their cars wore blackwalls (much to my chagrin) and they were more than happy to let my know (in their best country club / Harvard accents) what a silly fool I was and that I clearly didn't know sh!t about squat (more chagrin). It took a long time, but I finally replaced my Devine Providence paradigm with one of real world reality, .. and no, not all cars back in the day wore whitewalls (nor should they now) and that the Depression era survivors were often a hard-to-get-your-head-around group whose frugal outlook was like nothing we see in America today. Even those who had money did not necessarily like whitewalls, or saw them as exessive, or an excessive display of high falootin' arrogance in a car. They might step up and buy a Lincoln or a NY'er and still roll it around blackwalls as a statement of conservative "Yes, I have money, but I have it because I am frugal in how I live". These types often disdained flashy public displays of status and referred to those who did so as "new money". To me, a NY'er level car just looks "wrong", as such an upscale car, on anything but "proper" whitewalls, but I well understand that some owners DID buy and maintain them to look more like a bottom-of-the-line Plymouth. A phenomenon that in itself was a unique part of that era. | ||
imopar380 |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7207 Location: Victoria, BC, on Vancouver Island, Canada | Notice in this photo, Los Angeles, 1965. The 1958 Dodge is a Canadian tourist in L.A. - looks like a Mayfair. (LosAngeles1965.jpg) Attachments ---------------- LosAngeles1965.jpg (103KB - 168 downloads) | ||
FIN_NV |
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Expert Posts: 4589 Location: Northern New Jersey | Whitewalls and full wheel covers were for the folks doing well where I grew up in Brooklyn NY in the late 50's and early 60's Many car owners on my Block opted for the Portawalls and a set of Aftermarket Spinners from the local auto parts store. The Fat Cats in the Chryslers, Buicks and Caddilacs had the Wide Whites and the real factory full wheel covers. | ||
Ray Bell |
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Expert Posts: 2474 Location: Dalveen, Queensland, Australia | Among the comments I made on that pic was the mention of the age of those people... Still assuming the photo was taken by 1960, they came from the 1880s or 1890s. That's a long time ago, 120 years back now, nobody is still alive from that time I wouldn't think. So these people have seen cars come into being. They've seen the Curved Dash Olds and the Model N Ford, the birth of Cadillac and Chevrolet, the coming of Dodge, the death of Maxwell and the emergence of Chrysler. They perhaps didn't even ride in a car until they were in their twenties. We don't know, but some things we can guess. Car ownership didn't really become widespread until then anyway, so it's a fair estimation. They've seen, but we don't know if they were cognisant of, the arrival of all kinds of technologies that have improved the car out of sight in that time. Quite apart from the fashions involved. From naked frames with spindly bodies, seats high in the air and a rag hood flapping in the breeze being the norm, a side-valver with hardly enough power to get up hills in top gear they have seen and possibly lived with the advancement of the automobile until it was just one step away from the ultimate. Yes, that step into the disc brake, radial tyre and fuel injection era of the late sixties and early seventies was all there was to go before cars began to backslide and become what they were really being all along, mere means of conveyance designed and built to make money for the manufacturer - but with the rider that technology took them away from the habitat of the enthusiast. Don't you envy those folks? | ||
Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | Mr. Moore lived up the road from our place when I was a young. Born in 1883, he once told a few of us neighbor kids about the first time he ever saw a car. It was at night, and the loud, popping, back-firing "thing" with lights on it came at him as he walked down a country road. He said all the hair on his body stood on end from fright, and he pushed out into the darkness of the field along the road to allow it to pass. He still did not know exactly what it was until days later. When I knew Mr. Moore, he kept a gold 1966 Chevy II 2 door hardtop in his tin shed. Down the road, Mr. Scramlin drove a 56 DeSoto Firedome sedan. He was a WWI vet and was about 80 in the mid-70's. His family gave him endless grief over that "old car" and was always pushing him to get a new one. He was perfectly content with his DeSoto. | ||
hemidave |
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Expert Posts: 4654 | Accident scene (Chev vs Dodge.jpg) Attachments ---------------- Chev vs Dodge.jpg (108KB - 181 downloads) | ||
Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | My money says that's a 60 Plymouth. Look at the lower back edge of the wheel opening. Dodge had a cleaner, more open line there. | ||
d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | The hub caps are a clue. Kinda makes you recall that bogus 59 Chubbie -vs- new-whatever mini-mobile accident creation, where the Chubster was destroyed by the 'mini'. This collision impact was probably at least 30MPH on the part of one of the drivers. The Plymmie looks to have nosed/braked underneath the other car, from its displaced bumper, and the collision, somehow, resulted in one/both of the cars rebounding away from the other one. Note that the Plymouth has 'skidmarks' behind, and slightly in front of it; its driver was applying the brakes, big-time, when the Chubbie slammed/skidded into it; no skidmarks exist anywhere around the Chubbie. Edited by d500neil 2013-02-22 4:23 PM | ||
Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | Are you using infra-red or those X-ray glasses sold in the back of old comic books to detect those skid marks ? All I see is foot steps in the slushy crud. | ||
vedette |
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Expert Posts: 3069 Location: Scotland | London 1960s (London1960s.jpg) Attachments ---------------- London1960s.jpg (154KB - 165 downloads) | ||
d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | ...Look under and around the Plymouth's left front tire. | ||
floyd066 |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 347 Location: Ocean Park, Washington | Portland, Oregon 1967 (w-burnside-and-20th-ave-looking-west-1967.jpg) Attachments ---------------- w-burnside-and-20th-ave-looking-west-1967.jpg (36KB - 170 downloads) | ||
soiouz |
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Expert Posts: 3480 Location: Montreal, Canada | imopar380 - 2013-02-21 5:48 PM Notice in this photo, Los Angeles, 1965. The 1958 Dodge is a Canadian tourist in L.A. - looks like a Mayfair. Since it's LA it could very well be a Mexican driving a Kingsway too. | ||
Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | d500neil - 2013-02-24 8:17 PM ...Look under and around the Plymouth's left front tire. ======================================== I see what *might* be a tire track or skid mark that is highly obliterated by post accident footprints. I would expect pre-crash skid marks to be a lot more "dynamic" than something easily erased by the boots of the tow truck driver, etc. When doing accident investigations, what you see there is not considered to be very telling, unless you are seeing something I cannot. | ||
christine-lover |
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Expert Posts: 2996 Location: Sept. 1958 | hemidave - 2013-02-18 8:23 AM Workhorse wagon Bonnies had washboards and different trim/ emblems. Not to mention they only built a couple in black. A Star Chief convertible is probably what it is. | ||
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