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Red Ram |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 303 Location: P la P, Man | Hi All - We're putting together a photo album of the old Dodge to take down to Tulsa with us. Mom gave us a box of old slides to go through, and we had any with a vehicle put on disc. I'd like to share the best here, in case we don't see you on the road. ;).......This is my Dad with the 55 Regent the Custom Royal replaced. It was apparently a lemon. The first day it rained, they came out and found the headliner soaked and hanging; and it was constantly in the shop thereafter. (Old slides FL18.jpg) Attachments ---------------- Old slides FL18.jpg (56KB - 254 downloads) | ||
Red Ram |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 303 Location: P la P, Man | "Roughing it" at Clear Lake Manitoba in one of a series of Dad's home made campers. (Old slides FL02.jpg) Attachments ---------------- Old slides FL02.jpg (92KB - 244 downloads) | ||
Red Ram |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 303 Location: P la P, Man | A year or two later. (Old slides FL10 edit.jpg) Attachments ---------------- Old slides FL10 edit.jpg (95KB - 258 downloads) | ||
Red Ram |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 303 Location: P la P, Man | My Mom and a cousin. Portage la Prairie, Manitoba. (Old slides FL14.jpg) Attachments ---------------- Old slides FL14.jpg (51KB - 255 downloads) | ||
5859 |
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Expert Posts: 2932 Location: Lemoore CA | Very cool pictures, it's nice to see some up close color pictures of real life, when these cars were on the road. | ||
Red Ram |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 303 Location: P la P, Man | Thanks! Good thing the slides were kept boxed, they haven't faded much.......I think this one could be out of a National Geographic or Life magazine of the day. (Old slides FL06.jpg) Attachments ---------------- Old slides FL06.jpg (73KB - 247 downloads) | ||
Red Ram |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 303 Location: P la P, Man | These would've been taken in Alonsa, Manitoba. My Grandma's brother owned a store there. (Old slides FL28.jpg) Attachments ---------------- Old slides FL28.jpg (73KB - 251 downloads) | ||
Red Ram |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 303 Location: P la P, Man | This was 1958. My aunt scanned her B & W snaps of the same camping trip for me, and they were dated. (Old slides FL21 edit.jpg) Attachments ---------------- Old slides FL21 edit.jpg (88KB - 253 downloads) | ||
Red Ram |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 303 Location: P la P, Man | My Grandparents' farm. Some old vehicle in back. I think I remember it still there about '69 or '70. (Old slides FL16.jpg) Attachments ---------------- Old slides FL16.jpg (99KB - 247 downloads) | ||
Red Ram |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 303 Location: P la P, Man | Another Dodge, circa. 1963. (Old slides FL03.jpg) Attachments ---------------- Old slides FL03.jpg (75KB - 250 downloads) | ||
5859 |
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Expert Posts: 2932 Location: Lemoore CA | I am not clear, do you still own this 57? | ||
Red Ram |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 303 Location: P la P, Man | An uncle's Ch**y wasn't bad either. lol (Old slides FL23 edit.jpg) Attachments ---------------- Old slides FL23 edit.jpg (97KB - 257 downloads) | ||
Red Ram |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 303 Location: P la P, Man | 5859 - 2007-05-19 2:12 PM Yes. Here it is June last year. - Cheers, RobI am not clear, do you still own this 57? (june 2006 01 edit.jpg) Attachments ---------------- june 2006 01 edit.jpg (36KB - 247 downloads) | ||
5859 |
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Expert Posts: 2932 Location: Lemoore CA | WOW! That's pretty luck to still have an original family owner car! Looks great! | ||
Rebels-59 |
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Board Moderator & Exner Expert 10K+ Location: .Norfolk..Mafia.. ,England UK | That Ch3vy you posted is a Caddy......... | ||
Red Ram |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 303 Location: P la P, Man | Yes. That's the joke. | ||
vedette |
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Expert Posts: 3069 Location: Scotland | Rob,super car you've got,unusual being 3-tone paint on a '57 Dodge. | ||
my58dodge |
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Regular Posts: 71 Location: Connecticut | Great shots. May I ask -- what brand and model scanner did you use to scan the slides? It does the job very well. | ||
Red Ram |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 303 Location: P la P, Man | Thanks for your responses...........My58dodge: We had them done at Black's Photo here. I've just uploaded the pix from their CD. | ||
Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | Period photos like this thrill me. The clothes, the faces, all the little details that were "that time". It wasn't just the cars that were cool. I don't really know how to describe it. It was a feeling. Innocence ? Optimism ? The ladies sure did like to fling themselves into a pose around that car, didn't they ? !!! I sure would love to find family photos like this of my car. Thanks for sharing. You made my day. B. | ||
58 DESOTOS RULE |
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Expert Posts: 2308 Location: The Bat Cave, Fairborn, OH | If I'm not mistaken, your uncle's "Ch3vy" is a 61 model. I wonder what Tom McCahill would have said about GM build quality if that barge was flung around the track like the others in his torture test film? :laugh: Cool that you still have your family's 1957 Dodge after all this time. And it's still looking good too. I'll bet you had to put some time and effort into the body though to keep it looking so good. Edited by 58 DESOTOS RULE 2007-05-20 10:58 AM | ||
Red Ram |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 303 Location: P la P, Man | Doctor DeSoto - 2007-05-20 2:56 AM I'm glad to have done it then, and you've put into words how I felt when I first saw the slides! That era is gone, like most of the cars, and it's only images like this that are left for us that came later. You're right about the innocence and optimism of the time. It's surprising when you realize that my parents' generation grew up during the "Dirty 30's" and became adults just in time for a World War. - RobPeriod photos like this thrill me. The clothes, the faces, all the little details that were "that time". It wasn't just the cars that were cool. I don't really know how to describe it. It was a feeling. Innocence ? Optimism ? The ladies sure did like to fling themselves into a pose around that car, didn't they ? !!! I sure would love to find family photos like this of my car. Thanks for sharing. You made my day. B. | ||
Red Ram |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 303 Location: P la P, Man | 58 DESOTOS RULE - 2007-05-20 10:55 AM An older cousin remembers all the kids piling into that Caddy for a ride around the farmyard. I don't remember it myself; my uncle had moved to California by the time I showed up. My mom says he sent it to the wrecker!...........The Custom Royal was our family car until at least 1977. By then the rockers and eyebrows were gone and the engine was tired. Dad spent the next decade rebuilding it, switched front fenders, and had a friend's son do the bodywork and paint. It hit the road again in '88, and Dad gave the car to me on my 30th birthday in '95.If I'm not mistaken, your uncle's "Ch3vy" is a 61 model. I wonder what Tom McCahill would have said about GM build quality if that barge was flung around the track like the others in his torture test film? Cool that you still have your family's 1957 Dodge after all this time. And it's still looking good too. I'll bet you had to put some time and effort into the body though to keep it looking so good. | ||
5859 |
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Expert Posts: 2932 Location: Lemoore CA | These vintage photos are great, I would also like to see some more pictures of your Custom Royal, maybe some front views, and some interior shots, when it is conveinant. Also, I'd like to hear a little more about what made your parents decide to keep it so long, was it their favorite car? ect. Edited by 5859 2007-05-20 3:14 PM | ||
Red Ram |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 303 Location: P la P, Man | More from Last June. There was a lot of Cottonwood fluff blowing around, sorry. (June 2006 11 edit.jpg) Attachments ---------------- June 2006 11 edit.jpg (87KB - 256 downloads) | ||
Red Ram |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 303 Location: P la P, Man | * (DSC09531 edit.jpg) Attachments ---------------- DSC09531 edit.jpg (94KB - 259 downloads) | ||
Red Ram |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 303 Location: P la P, Man | ** (june 2006 05.jpg) Attachments ---------------- june 2006 05.jpg (98KB - 256 downloads) | ||
Red Ram |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 303 Location: P la P, Man | *** (DSC09524 edit.jpg) Attachments ---------------- DSC09524 edit.jpg (95KB - 243 downloads) | ||
Red Ram |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 303 Location: P la P, Man | I don't have any interior photos at the moment, 5859. This'll give you the colour at least. (Old slides FL17.jpg) Attachments ---------------- Old slides FL17.jpg (43KB - 247 downloads) | ||
Red Ram |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 303 Location: P la P, Man | 5859 - 2007-05-20 3:11 PM ...................I think it's because they settled in a small town in 63 and started their own business after more than a decade of working construction jobs (I think they moved 7 times one year!). Didn't need a car to get groceries, mail, etc. because we lived on main street and every store was half a block away. Dad wore this panel wagon out around 69 and used vans afterwards, so the Custom Royal was largely a pleasure vehicle. A lot of my old friends from childhood hockey & baseball who went to games out of town in the Custom Royal still refer to it as the "Pauchmobile". .......I'd like to hear a little more about what made your parents decide to keep it so long, was it their favorite car? ect. (Old slides FL08.jpg) Attachments ---------------- Old slides FL08.jpg (72KB - 253 downloads) | ||
Red Ram |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 303 Location: P la P, Man | Dad was still taking it Elk hunting in '77. (Riding Mountain 1977 edit2.jpg) Attachments ---------------- Riding Mountain 1977 edit2.jpg (73KB - 245 downloads) | ||
Red Ram |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 303 Location: P la P, Man | 5859 - 2007-05-20 3:11 PM .......Or, maybe we just don't like getting rid of stuff.........I still have the panel truck, too. lol............I'd like to hear a little more about what made your parents decide to keep it so long, was it their favorite car? ect. (Panel 2006.jpg) Attachments ---------------- Panel 2006.jpg (51KB - 243 downloads) | ||
UnrestoredBelvedere |
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Veteran Posts: 152 Location: Curwensville, PA | Wow, That is some of the Best IMO that I have seen. I love the family History!!!! | ||
d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | In case everyone is not aware of this, Canadian CRL's received the U.S. Royal-model's interior, and Canadian CRL's did come with 3-tome paint schemes. Rob's hood reallly aligns/fits very well. It's trunk aligns/fits about as well as my car, but his car's trunk stays UP!! Rob, you don't have any pics of your dad's restoration, of it? | ||
Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | d500neil - 2007-05-21 11:26 PM In case everyone is not aware of this, Canadian CRL's received the U.S. Royal-model's interior. ************************ I've asked this before, but never get a satisfactory answer ... Why did U.S. auto makers sell upgraded badges and downgraded equipment / models to non-U.S. markets like this ? Did a Canadian buyer such as this get a mid-level Royal interior for the same price a U.S. buyer got the top-line Custom Royal interior down in the States ? It seems to me that U.S. mfr's. took every opportuinity to sell non-U.S. markets sub-par products. The "Custom Royal" badge suggests to me that they were selling this one as a full-blown equivilent to any Custom Royal a person could buy south of the 49th, yet you say they got a lesser Royal interior for the money. Did they pay less for this hybrid mix up north, or was Dodge intentionally shortchanging Canadians thinking they'd never know the difference ? And then there is the whole Plodge concept ! Somebody in the know, ... just tell me it was a scam to sell less car for more money and this will all make sense. The answer I have been gieven so far is that Canadians like having a unique model/s. This *might* fly if they weren't ALWAYS a downgraded model. Methinks sumpin's fishy goin on here ! B. | ||
Red Ram |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 303 Location: P la P, Man | d500neil - 2007-05-21 2:26 AM Thank you for that info; I didn't know that. I have been told the Canadian engine was slightly different in stroke than the U.S.. They said the reason was much like what Doctor Desoto mentioned; just to be different........Funny you mention the hood fit. Dad took it for a ride in the early 90's with the hood not closed properly. It flew open at 45 MPH, and bent the hinges, which he replaced. Lucky he didn't take out the windshield, or himself. I don't think it fits as good as it did before..............All I've found for restoration pix are a few circa. 1981 to 83, when the fenders had been switched but the car hadn't been repainted yet. You can't really see it here, but my biggest complaint about the job was that they didn't even completely primer the replacement fenders before repainting the car! Their original blue is plain to see when the hood is up. Looks horrible, IMO. In case everyone is not aware of this, Canadian CRL's received the U.S. Royal-model's interior, and Canadian CRL's did come with 3-tome paint schemes. Rob's hood reallly aligns/fits very well. It's trunk aligns/fits about as well as my car, but his car's trunk stays UP!! Rob, you don't have any pics of your dad's restoration, of it? (Rebuild 001 edit.jpg) Attachments ---------------- Rebuild 001 edit.jpg (57KB - 254 downloads) | ||
Red Ram |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 303 Location: P la P, Man | You can see how faded the red was by this time..........At one point in the 50's they were living in Dryden, Ontario, and the smokestacks from the mills put out so much material, they would wash and cover the car every night!.........There's my first car on the left. (Rebuild 004 edit.jpg) Attachments ---------------- Rebuild 004 edit.jpg (55KB - 250 downloads) | ||
Red Ram |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 303 Location: P la P, Man | A 59 Custom Royal 4dr. with the 383. (Rebuild 008 edit.jpg) Attachments ---------------- Rebuild 008 edit.jpg (43KB - 244 downloads) | ||
Red Ram |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 303 Location: P la P, Man | And the hulk of one nearly identical. (Rebuild 009 edit.jpg) Attachments ---------------- Rebuild 009 edit.jpg (61KB - 246 downloads) | ||
Red Ram |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 303 Location: P la P, Man | I parked both the 59's on my grandparents' farm after losing reverse gear on the driver. By that time, an uncle was the absentee landowner, and rented out the farmhouse. One day the tenant decided to clear the ditch along the highway by burning it. The fire got away on him, burnt along a tree line away from the highway, and soon as it cleared that, went for my poor 59 like it had eyes! Torched the car, and melted some aluminum roofing off the barn beside it! Of course, the non-running car is untouched about 30 feet to the left here. Edited by Red Ram 2007-05-21 4:06 PM (59 Custom Royal burnt.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 59 Custom Royal burnt.jpg (95KB - 247 downloads) | ||
FinFan |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 709 Location: Poznan, Poland, Europe | As for those Canadian hybrids - I remember reading somewhere that all that was needed, becouse there were special charges for import of non-Canadian version of the same brand, and the Plodges were easy to identify as being "local". Maybe those tricks with interiors were also used for easy track-down of imported versions, when at least the top models were looking like U.S. versions. | ||
d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | I could look-it-up, but the info's @ my home. I'm pretty-sure that 57 CAN CRL's did not receive the U.S. 325 c.i. engines; The Mayfairs and the other-model (Del Ray?) had 301 c.i. engines, IIRC. You know, looking at your door trim panel, the cloth-portion is NOT :"Linear Lucidity" , which was installed on 57 U.S. Royals. I don't know what the Canadian name was, for that upholstery-pattern, but it probably appears on one or more of the CAN brochures that I have. I know that "legally", the CAN & U.S. car-models were supposed to be different. As there was no upholstery-pattern higher than the U.S. CRL, the factory decided, rationally-enough, to put the next-best cloth into the CAN CRL's. In 1958, the CAN CRL's got the 354 Poly engine, witha 4-barrel engine. The 58 U.S. CRL's got the New-for-58 350 or 360 Wedge engines. | ||
5859 |
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Expert Posts: 2932 Location: Lemoore CA | That's a pretty hard blow to have had that car burned up like that, and like you said, it just had to be the driver, and not the parts car. | ||
vedette |
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Expert Posts: 3069 Location: Scotland | Neil,thanks for the information,but this is the first '57 Custom Royal i've seen with 3 -tone paint scheme,my dads '57 Custom Royal was Canadian but was only 2-tone and had 325ci engine.Del Rays were Chevrolets(150s)i believe.The Canadian Dodges I saw in Ontario were Mayfairs,Regents and Crusaders.The ones i've seen in Europe were Kingsways/Kingsway Customs. | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7207 Location: Victoria, BC, on Vancouver Island, Canada | d500neil - 2007-05-21 3:41 PM I could look-it-up, but the info's @ my home. I'm pretty-sure that 57 CAN CRL's did not receive the U.S. 325 c.i. engines; The Mayfairs and the other-model (Del Ray?) had 301 c.i. engines, IIRC. You know, looking at your door trim panel, the cloth-portion is NOT :"Linear Lucidity" , which was installed on 57 U.S. Royals. I don't know what the Canadian name was, for that upholstery-pattern, but it probably appears on one or more of the CAN brochures that I have. I know that "legally", the CAN & U.S. car-models were supposed to be different. As there was no upholstery-pattern higher than the U.S. CRL, the factory decided, rationally-enough, to put the next-best cloth into the CAN CRL's. In 1958, the CAN CRL's got the 354 Poly engine, witha 4-barrel engine. The 58 U.S. CRL's got the New-for-58 350 or 360 Wedge engines. Neil, I know you are the 57 Dodge expert but do you know as much on the 58's ? My first car was a 58 Custom Royal, don't know if it was a Canadian or US built car, but the upholstery was US type and it had a B wedge engine with a 2 barrel carb. It was also a Spring SPecial with the extra trim. At the same time I owned it another guy on my street also had a 58 CR that had the same upholstery US style and a " B" engine and 2 barrel carb. At the time I didn't know about spring specials so we wondered why mine had more trim than his. What would be the chances of finding two US built CRs on the same street the same year in a medium sized Canadian city ? What I am saying is if these were Canadian built cars they were identical to the US versions. I got that car back in 1974 and have been wondering for all these years where it was built.
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RoyalGate |
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Expert Posts: 2011 Location: Ballwin, Missouri | Now I ask you, what other car looks like it is going 60 mph just standing still !!!!!!! And the sun glinting off of the chrome and paint looks like it was air brushed on there. Perfect picture !!!!!!! Edited by RoyalGate 2007-05-22 5:29 PM (57 Dodge.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 57 Dodge.jpg (98KB - 247 downloads) | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7207 Location: Victoria, BC, on Vancouver Island, Canada | Red Ram - 2007-05-20 2:37 PM Dad was still taking it Elk hunting in '77. For a car living in the rust belt, it fared well for the 20 years. | ||
Red Ram |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 303 Location: P la P, Man | Thanks for all the kind comments and the car information you've shared! I've passed it on to my Mom, who's now 83, and it's really made her day. Several days, for that matter. It was her that fell in love with the car, and her coaxing and assurances that she'd do without are what prompted Dad to buy it. They were living in Brandon, Manitoba at the time, and were friends with one of the salesmen from the Chrysler dealership there. The car was a Demo, and Mom would tell the salesman to drive it over for their frequent card games so Dad could see it sitting in the driveway. I guess it worked. | ||
Red Ram |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 303 Location: P la P, Man | RoyalGate - 2007-05-22 5:27 PM ........................Thanks very much! I was lucky to find an exhaust manifold for it 2 weeks ago, and emailed the seller the photo of the car taken from the other side. His exact reply: "It looks like it's doing 60 MPH just sitting there." =:4)Now I ask you, what other car looks like it is going 60 mph just standing still !!!!!!! And the sun glinting off of the chrome and paint looks like it was air brushed on there. Perfect picture !!!!!!! | ||
Red Ram |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 303 Location: P la P, Man | This is a 57 CR that some Yahoos lit on fire and pushed over a ravine in the 1960's near my hometown. The motor must've been done, as there are pieces of the heads in the trunk. Dad and I used to sneak down the slope and take off parts; even the aluminum power steering housing although the fire had melted it. (57 parts car008 edit2.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 57 parts car008 edit2.jpg (98KB - 245 downloads) | ||
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