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57burb
Posted 2007-06-12 4:22 PM (#85852)
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..as we speak.

Here's a few pics for you all- http://www.tulsaCh**ys.com/Images/buriedcar/index.html

Son of a gun - this stupid Chev -y blocker thing on the site has screwed up the hyperlink. So just edit it to say the word that you know is there...

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Posted 2007-06-12 4:38 PM (#85855 - in reply to #85852)
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GREAT batch of pics!
Thank You,, from those of us that couldn't be there.

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Posted 2007-06-12 5:56 PM (#85860 - in reply to #85852)
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HOLY COW, Danny!  I feel like I'm there.  Thanks for the link.  (Remember my prediction - Jimmy Hoffa will be found in Ms. Belvie's trunk.)
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Posted 2007-06-12 6:36 PM (#85861 - in reply to #85852)
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Posted 2007-06-12 7:05 PM (#85865 - in reply to #85852)
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Nice link to all the pics.  I guess tomorrow the Tulsans are taking the lid off.  Maybe those pics will come up also.  I was going to leave Thursday morning but I think my wife is even excited.  We might leave tomorrow.  Maybe I can snap a pic of "Virgil" under wraps in the tomb.  I was thinking about buying a cowboy hat so I could fit in with the Okies, then I figured not.  Some sheepherder might grap my ass.
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Posted 2007-06-12 7:57 PM (#85871 - in reply to #85865)
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Posted 2007-06-13 6:48 AM (#85908 - in reply to #85852)
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TV news video of Tuesday's excavation:

http://www.kotv.com/e-clips/?id=6693
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Posted 2007-06-13 9:11 AM (#85915 - in reply to #85852)
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Video of the "Dig"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSziykwjxvw
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Posted 2007-06-13 11:08 AM (#85922 - in reply to #85915)
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how cool is that! that music is link wray s RUMBLE!!!!! which belongs to my alltime favorites!
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Posted 2007-06-13 12:12 PM (#85925 - in reply to #85852)
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Is it just me or does it look like that thing has been under water more than a few times, judging by the many lines on the inside of the vault? If that is the car I see in the pics, I am very sad for it. Nonetheless, we are on our way to rainy Tulsa tomorrow a.m.

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57burb
Posted 2007-06-13 12:33 PM (#85927 - in reply to #85925)
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Car is sitting in water. It's going to be an absolute MESS. Hopefully something is salvagable.

Please look at the updated pics here ----> http://www.tulsaCh**ys.com/Images/buriedcar/index.html

(you know the routine with the EV in the address)

I'm just sick...



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Posted 2007-06-13 12:36 PM (#85929 - in reply to #85852)
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Coming from someone who believed the car would come out in pristine condition... after seeing the water level lines on the inside of the box, I'm afraid the car will look something like the Titanic when it's brought to the surface. What a bummer.

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Posted 2007-06-13 12:59 PM (#85932 - in reply to #85852)
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Guess we can all stop worrying about Boyd trying to start it.
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Posted 2007-06-13 1:47 PM (#85942 - in reply to #85852)
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In my town they recently pulled out a car from the river that was sitting at the bottom there since december 2006.
The car looked like new exept it was all wet of course. Apparently because no air got to it, the car did not rust out. I am not saying the tulsa car
will be pretty but I think it might not be all that bad either. Hope I am right...
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Posted 2007-06-13 1:50 PM (#85944 - in reply to #85852)
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HA! If Boyd can start THAT, I'll have a lot of respect for his abilities. It's too bad about the car. I hope it doesn't break in half when they lift it out. At least all of the stainless will be usable. Even in its current state, it would make a great museum display.

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Posted 2007-06-13 1:59 PM (#85947 - in reply to #85942)
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That baby will need a new interior, though, at the least!!!!!
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Posted 2007-06-13 2:09 PM (#85948 - in reply to #85942)
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sebastiaan58 - 2007-06-13 1:47 PM

In my town they recently pulled out a car from the river that was sitting at the bottom there since december 2006.
The car looked like new exept it was all wet of course. Apparently because no air got to it, the car did not rust out. I am not saying the tulsa car
will be pretty but I think it might not be all that bad either. Hope I am right...
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That's a little different though. The car in the river probably remained completely submerged all of the time. That vault, on the other hand, was put in the ground dry and now 50 years later looks like it has ten inches of water in it. If the vault wasn't water tight, it wouldn't be air tight either.
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Posted 2007-06-13 2:22 PM (#85951 - in reply to #85852)
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It looks like the car has been under water several times - probably each spring! It's not going to be pretty folks!
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Posted 2007-06-13 2:23 PM (#85952 - in reply to #85947)
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well, the only thing we know for sure at this point is that it wasn't dry. i hope it doesn't break in half, too.

however, in kansas city, they have a museum for the steamship arabia, which sank in 1858. they dug it up in 1988, and it is now the largest collection of pre-civil war merchandise in existence. it held the equivalent of about 200 semi-trailer loads. i didn't know they had rubber galoshes and buttons back then, but they did. even rubber combs. the reason the stuff held up so well is because it got absolutely no light or air exposure.

on the other hand, the arabia was in mostly sandy stuff, about 40 feet deep. this was in clay, near the surface.
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Posted 2007-06-13 2:33 PM (#85953 - in reply to #85948)
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That tide mark of the water line has got to be at least 18" high, and who knows, maybe it was even higher in the years that have passed since it was buried...FINGERS CROSSED !!!!
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Posted 2007-06-13 2:47 PM (#85954 - in reply to #85929)
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C-300, I was with you, I thought the car would be absolutely new. Guess that is the optimist in me. If the car is in bad shape, I at least hope the stuff in the trunk is at least savable, but looking at the lines on the walls, it looks like it may have been under lots of water.

Now, was it sealed in a bag, or just covered by that heavy plastic-type covering? If it was sealed, there is still hope!

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Posted 2007-06-13 2:49 PM (#85955 - in reply to #85852)
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Car is destroyed.

http://newsok.com/article/3065823

"Excavators found evidence that water could have been to the top of the vault at one point, said Art Couch, who is heading up the unearthing project."



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Posted 2007-06-13 3:19 PM (#85960 - in reply to #85955)
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your to pessimistic.

granted it does look bad. but the real time capsule is in the trunk of the car and sealed.

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Posted 2007-06-13 3:25 PM (#85962 - in reply to #85960)
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I don't think I can be "too" pessimistic about the condition of a car that's been in 8' of water for five decades.

Here's another news story.. this one says (and photos confirm) that water was above the roof of the car when the lid was removed. http://www.ktul.com/news/stories/0607/431074.html
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Posted 2007-06-13 3:34 PM (#85963 - in reply to #85962)
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the car was not the time capsule.

the time capsule is in a sealed oil drum in the trunk.
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Posted 2007-06-13 3:46 PM (#85965 - in reply to #85963)
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One thing's for sure - in its current state, that car is definately gonna suffer the dreaded "brake grabbing".
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Posted 2007-06-13 3:47 PM (#85966 - in reply to #85963)
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In the video attached to the news story 57burb posted, there's a great close-up shot of the 55 gallon drum of fuel. The condition of that drum should give you a pretty good idea of what the car looks like. Sad to say... I think that sediment on top of the trunk lid might be the trunk floor.

So sad.

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Posted 2007-06-13 5:09 PM (#85969 - in reply to #85852)
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What a crushing blow! I have been looking forward to this for at least 5 years now, and am feeling very let down. True the drum may have survived, but at the risk of sounding petty, I couldn't care less about the drum, I was hoping for an at least salvageable car. Mabeye with some luck, it won't be as bad as I think it is.
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Posted 2007-06-13 5:15 PM (#85970 - in reply to #85969)
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two days till we find out.
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Posted 2007-06-13 5:16 PM (#85971 - in reply to #85852)
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Does anyone think maybe, just maybe the bag retained it's integrity and kept water out of the actual car? Probably just wishful thinking at this point
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Posted 2007-06-13 5:18 PM (#85972 - in reply to #85969)
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I would hope so, but there's no telling. I had thought this event would make the value of these cars go up, but if that car is trashed, maybe not. Might just make more people think Plymouth = rustbucket.
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Posted 2007-06-13 5:24 PM (#85974 - in reply to #85971)
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it might have it might have not.

best to not worry about it. IMO.
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Posted 2007-06-13 5:25 PM (#85975 - in reply to #85969)
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If you ever build a vault, don't let anyone from Tulsa build it for you!!  LOL!!  I'm still going.  The fact remains about 3 things rust needs.  It got the moisture part.  Maybe the condom held out.  I hope that is just silt stains and not rust stains.  Ya think they will leave the prowler to rust away, or think, "Hey maybe we should put a drain in the bottom of that vault."  I'll bet they have to shake it off the back of the rollback.  It might still be in better shape than mine was!!  I got my fingers crossed about to head out.
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Posted 2007-06-13 5:26 PM (#85976 - in reply to #85972)
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spikemike - 2007-06-13 4:18 PM

I would hope so, but there's no telling. I had thought this event would make the value of these cars go up, but if that car is trashed, maybe not. Might just make more people think Plymouth = rustbucket.



i think anything standing in water for 50 years barring Stainless steel will be a rust bucket though i hope the bag held up. (though i realize its a long shot)
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Posted 2007-06-13 5:27 PM (#85977 - in reply to #85975)
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the prowler is in a alumium vault and its pressurized.



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Posted 2007-06-13 5:28 PM (#85978 - in reply to #85852)
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I think it is just the angle I am looking at the pictures, but in some of them, the roof appears to be collapsed, I guess if the car corroded enough it could happen.
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Posted 2007-06-13 5:31 PM (#85979 - in reply to #85978)
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i was talking with another guy online and he seems to see that as well. might be the angle though as you said.
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Posted 2007-06-13 5:33 PM (#85980 - in reply to #85852)
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maybe it's the sunroof.
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Posted 2007-06-13 5:36 PM (#85982 - in reply to #85852)
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pretty sure it didn't have a sunroof.
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Posted 2007-06-13 5:38 PM (#85983 - in reply to #85982)
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It might now.
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Posted 2007-06-13 5:39 PM (#85984 - in reply to #85982)
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Might be where it floated to the top and it's flattened. hahahaa
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Posted 2007-06-13 6:05 PM (#85987 - in reply to #85852)
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well bad news sports fans the fins have rust on em.
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Posted 2007-06-13 6:13 PM (#85989 - in reply to #85927)
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57burb - 2007-06-13 12:33 PM

Car is sitting in water. It's going to be an absolute MESS. Hopefully something is salvagable.

I'm just sick...


thats alot worse than what i expected! wtf, what were they thinking?! look at the ridicoulous ceiling! i thought it was cast in into steel concrete, air/water tight. they just layed someting on to that bathtub and it looks like they didn't even use a sealer! that's not a vault thats a coffin! the concrete workers must have been Ch**y people, my guess, since no one can be THAT stupid. a properly build vault with little more work would have remained air and water tight and the car would still look like brand new (unless the useless cosmoline damaged the rubber) i can't believe this. it probaly started to leak with day one.
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Posted 2007-06-13 6:27 PM (#85990 - in reply to #85989)
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I'll bet the old guys are happy as hell.  "I tried to tell them."  When I get there and see the layout of the place, I'll be able to see how smart they were.  I knew it was bad when they said the lid comes off in sections.  Maybe if it is wasted they will let people take pics of their nice cars next to the wasted one.  The vault of Nuclear Bomb proof but it wasn't Water Proof.  Jeez, wonder if Boyd and Leno are still going?
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Posted 2007-06-13 6:51 PM (#85993 - in reply to #85852)
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the bag didn't hold up. look at the driver's side fin. it's ripped wide open at the tip. what a shame.
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Posted 2007-06-13 6:59 PM (#85994 - in reply to #85852)
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What a shame. I looked at the the progressive pics and when I saw the water I felt ill. Looks to me like the bag didn't maintain its integrity. Reason being that unless the bag was vacuum sealed the trapped air would have formed a bubble in the bag as the water was being drained. It stuck to the car so that tells me she's history. Just a guess but oh well. I still think the car is valuable in it's own right. Who know's maybe she's restorable. If boyd offers to do it though I'd be a little concerned....Maybe Mel? Oh yeah that's right he'd biff the most valuable parts off it and sell the rusted shell for 10k...ha ha ha
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Posted 2007-06-13 7:07 PM (#85998 - in reply to #85852)
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Do you think anyone involved in the unearthing has peaked yet? I know I would have if I had a chance.
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Posted 2007-06-13 7:19 PM (#86002 - in reply to #85993)
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j.d. - 2007-06-13 5:51 PM

the bag didn't hold up. look at the driver's side fin. it's ripped wide open at the tip. what a shame.



yep.
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Posted 2007-06-13 7:31 PM (#86004 - in reply to #85852)
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http://www.tulsaworld.com/webextra/content/2007/videos/buriedcar/wm...
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Posted 2007-06-13 7:42 PM (#86006 - in reply to #85852)
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even if the car is solid[which in my opinion is probably destroyed]it probably has some serious mold problems
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