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Location: bishop, ca | BTW, the car should have 12"x 2/12" brakes, and extra-reinforced seat springing.
About its Dana-type rear end, John, can you see its rear end ratio, or rotate the tire, to see if it's a Sure Grip, or what its ratio appears to be?
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Location: N.W. FL | To me, that rear end looks like an 8 1/4" out of a '70s or '80s Mopar. |
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Location: Parts Unknown | Negative on the 8.75
The Danas have the removable rear cover and have a much less rounded look overall.
8.75's drop out the front with a solid back to the housing. |
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Location: Bama | How many bolts are in the inspection cover? Yeah, spin it, spin it. Also where was the car made? Come on John. |
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Location: Walhalla, ND | Check the serial (VIN) plate. The 3rd digit should be a "9" indicating a "pursuit sedan". Serial number should look something like this M392-100001 or higher. The M indicates 59 model year, 3 is Dodge, 9 pursuit sedan, 2 Dodge assembly-Hamtramck (this could be different depending on final assembly location) and the sequential serial number started at 100,001 upwards. |
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Location: Wake Forest, NC | Here is a scan of the 1959 Ross Roy maual for pursuit vehicle and taxis. Looks like some neat options are added.
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Location: Blythewood, SC | The taxi package looks interesting as well. I remember there was a 57 Plymouth taxi in a guy's yard near Greenwood, SC. He would NOT sell any cars or parts, but he inexplicably gave me a dash clock. Go figure. Maybe I should go harass him again. It's been 10 years since I was there... |
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Location: Williams California | Benji - 2007-09-04 8:36 PM
Check the serial (VIN) plate. The 3rd digit should be a "9" indicating a "pursuit sedan". Serial number should look something like this M392-100001 or higher. The M indicates 59 model year, 3 is Dodge, 9 pursuit sedan, 2 Dodge assembly-Hamtramck (this could be different depending on final assembly location) and the sequential serial number started at 100,001 upwards.
The 3rd digit of the VIN# is, indeed, a 9. Thanks for the info. ---John |
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Location: bishop, ca | I'll keep the VIN-info stuff, (got new info) over on the Fender Tag Decoding board, but the differential would appear to
be a 8 1/4" unit, due to the rear-access plate on it, but, does anyone recognize the brake drums (without chatter-springs on
them, and with non-protruding axle-ends?)
Also, the car has at least 6-full leaf springs, visible, and possibly seven. OEM would have been 5 1/2, or maybe 6 leaves.
If the axle was changed-out (why?) wouldn't the leaf springs have gone 'with' it? Did 8 1/4" rear ends ever have 6 or 7 leaf
springs installed with it?
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| the rear axle assy intriques me in that it does not appear to have the axle nuts that hold the drums on. i wish i could have retro fitting one to my 60 if that is the case!
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Location: Slidell La. | d500neil - 2007-09-06 4:17 PM
I'll keep the VIN-info stuff, (got new info) over on the Fender Tag Decoding board, but the differential would appear to
be a 8 1/4" unit, due to the rear-access plate on it, but, does anyone recognize the brake drums (without chatter-springs on
them, and with non-protruding axle-ends?)
Also, the car has at least 6-full leaf springs, visible, and possibly seven. OEM would have been 5 1/2, or maybe 6 leaves.
If the axle was changed-out (why?) wouldn't the leaf springs have gone 'with' it? Did 8 1/4" rear ends ever have 6 or 7 leaf
springs installed with it?
Why would the springs have to go with the axel ? The spring bolts on these old cars are rusted/frozen and will generally be a bitch to remove . Axel is a breeze to swap out , swapping the springs adds a lot of time . Thats definately a later axel , late 70s or 80s .
Edited by narleycharlie 2007-09-06 8:02 PM
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Location: bishop, ca | The spring assemblies look to have too many leaves/leafs(?) in them; swapping-out leaf springs is rather unusual (but, so is swapping
out a diffie, too).
It certainly would ride well, with adequate rear springing; wonder what ratio the car is running???
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Location: Kangasala, Finland | d500neil - 2007-09-07 4:14 AM
The spring assemblies look to have too many leaves/leafs(?) in them; swapping-out leaf springs is rather unusual (but, so is swapping
out a diffie, too).
It certainly would ride well, with adequate rear springing; wonder what ratio the car is running???
Too many? I counted 6 leaves. They came standard in '57-'58 Fury - probably in HD police model too... |
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Location: Parts Unknown | On that Ross Roy manual page, note the listed option of BOTH a Hi-Output generator, ..... OR an ALTERNATOR.
I cannot recall ever seeing an ALTERNATOR on a 59, or even a 60 ! I recall the 60 exhaust manifold is part of the bracketing for a generator that was very different with the new alternator set up that I always thought was introduced in 1961.
Anyone ever seen a pre-61 car with an original alternator set up ? Photos ?
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Location: Yorba Linda, Ca | Alternator History
Chrysler first introduced the alternator in the 1960 model year. Due to the increased electrical loads on the charging system the old generator could no longer provide enough amperage (electrical volume) to operate all of the electrical components on the car.
http://www.mymopar.com/alternator.htm
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Location: The Bat Cave, Fairborn, OH | The 1960 Dodge Dart I once owned had a generator not an alternator, but Chrysler may have installed alternators in other 1960 models. I think the 1960 Valiant had an alternator for example. |
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| 1960 valiant was the only 60 to have the alternator on the regular cars (police/taxi used a different type) and the 61 line had them across the board. i dont know how much of the police/taxi cars were alternator equipped in 1960
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Location: bishop, ca | Going back to the leaf springs, in 1957 -1958 (not sure, about 1959; too lazy to look it up, now), Dodge had 5 leaf springs
on its non-stationwagon models , which were actually 4 1/2 leafs, as the shortest one only extended to the axle housing,
so that it was not visible, when the leaf springs were viewed from the rear-end of the car.
The stationwagon models probably had 5 1/2 leafs, but might have had 6-full leafs under them.
John's car is showing 6 leafs, when viewed from the rear, so that there might be another 1/2-leaf which is not
visible (when viewed from the rear-end).
The Furys had 5 1/2 leaf springs, too ---Ok: 6-technically, but 5 1/2 functionally.
I know that 300's had "seven" leafs, and I think that those seven leafs may have been full-ones, and not 6 1/2 leafs.
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Location: Scotland | here's a '58 CHP Dodge
http://adcache.collectorcartraderonline.com/10/3/1/89552131.htm |
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Location: Williams California | The rear end is not an original as suspected. It appears to have been installed just to make the car a 'roller' after the original unit was removed. The spring perches are about an inch and a half wider than the originals.---John |
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