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| Now that the auction is over will it serve as a guide for pricing? I noticed one comment already to a seller on this forum about their price vs Binder price. I sure will take a hard look at it everytime I consider an new FL investment. |
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Location: Iowa USA | I took the results and sorted them by model year and here they are.
Results of the Binder Desoto collection auction
1929 Rumble Seat Roadster K Series $29,000
1929 4 door Sedan K Series $10,000
1930 8-cylinder 4 door Sedan $8,000
1931 Deluxe rumble Seat Coupe $17,000
1932 2dr Suicide Rumble Seat Coupe $12,500
1933 2dr Suicide Rumble Seat Coupe $35,000
1934 Airflow 4 door Sedan $15,250
1935 Airflow 4 door Sedan $8,000
1936 Airstream 2dr Coupe $13,500
1936 4 door Airflow Sedan $16,500
1937 2dr Business Coupe $8,500
1938 2 Door rumble Seat Convertible $37,500
1939 2dr Business Coupe $6,500
1940 4 Door Custom Sedan $3,000
1941 Custom Club 2dr Coupe (green) $5,600
1941 2dr custom Club Coupe (yellow) $4,800
1942 4dr Deluxe Sedan $3,500
1946 Custom Suburban Long wheel-base 4dr $8,700
1946 Custom 4dr Sedan $1,100
1948 Deluxe Club Coupe $4,400
1949 Deluxe Woody Wagon $57,000
1949 Deluxe Club Coupe $4,500
1950 Custom Convertible Coupe $18,500
1950 Custom Long wheel-base Sedan (parts car) $400
1951 Deluxe Coupe $2,000
1951 Custom Sedan (parts car) $300
1952 Firedome V-8 4dr Sedan HEMI (parts car) $350
1952 Firedome 8 4dr Sedan Hemi Motor $1,500
1952 Custom Sedan $1,200
1953 Firedome- 8 HEMI $14,500
1953 Firedome V-8 HEMI 4dr Sedan $3,000
1954 Firedome 4dr Sedan HEMI $1,000
1954 Firedome 2dr Sportsman 2dr Sedan HEMI $7,000
1955 Fireflite 4dr Sedan HEMI $2,000
1955 Firedome Convertible HEMI $36,000
1956 Fireflite 2dr Hardtop HEMI $13,750
1956 Fireflite 4dr Sedan HEMI $1,000
1956 Fireflite 4dr Sedan HEMI $1,600
1956 Firedome Convertible HEMI $20,500
1956 Adventurer- Indy Pace Car Hubcaps $725
1957 Firesweep 4dr Sedan $5,500
1957 Firesweep 4dr Sedan $4,000
1958 Memphian Ambulance $36,000
1958 Sportsman Firedome 4dr hardtop Sedan $6,500
1959 Firedome 4dr Sedan $4,000
1959 Firedome 4dr Sedan (Parts car) $350
1960 Adventurer 2dr Hard Top $9,000
1960 Adventurer 4dr Sedan parts car $525
1961 2dr Hard Top (low miles but stored poorly) $21,000
Non Desoto cars
1924 Ford Model T Tall 2dr Sedan $5,500
1934 Dodge Brothers 1/2 ton Pickup $24,000
1962 Chrysler Imperial Crown 4dr Hard Top $1,250
1966 Chrysler New Yorker 4dr Hard top $3,900
1968 Chrysler 300 Convertible 440 V-8 $16,000
1977 Chrysler New Yorker 4dr Hard top $1,000
1978 Chrysler New Yorker 4dr Hard top $3,300
1989 Cadillac Brougham 4dr Sedan $1,500
The Desoto Marque also got some good press coverage!
This reporter at least asked some good questions! Still got some stuff wrong but better!
http://www.kcautv.com/global/video/popup/pop_player.asp?ClipID1=185...
This reporter did not ask good questions and got a lot of stuff wrong (I did not plan the auction!) Should have known since the night before they said Chris was still alive!
http://www.kmeg14.com/Global/category.asp?C=102618&nav=menu609_1
Ad here is the local newspaper article this morning!
http://www.siouxcityjournal.com/articles/2007/10/21/news/local/68a2... |
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Location: Idaho - where men are men and spuds are spuds | Hmmmmmm. Based on these prices (and after consultation with the Bishop), I figure I ought to be able to buy Rebel's beautiful Chrysler AND his wife and his dog for about $3289.00 US! L L! |
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Location: Warren, Michigan | Alot of those cars went craaazzzzy cheap. I guess the wrong people showed up. |
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Location: Parts Unknown | The 58 ambulance was the odd one I was most curious to see what it would bring.
Close to a one-of-a-kind car, custom bodied professional cars like this have a whole different following above and beyond any FL interest. It may also reflect the recent rise in popularity of the once loathed station wagon, who used to be considered nothing more than parts cars, even if flawless originals.
Had that ambulance been built from a Fireflite or Dome, I might very well have been all over it. Neat car for sure.
Someone got a sweet deal on the 58 Firedome Spring Special if it was as nice as photos suggested. |
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Location: .Norfolk..Mafia.. ,England UK | FINFOLK - 2007-10-21 6:21 PM
Hmmmmmm. Based on these prices (and after consultation with the Bishop), I figure I ought to be able to buy Rebel's beautiful Chrysler AND his wife and his dog for about $3289.00 US! LL!
The Dog you can Have FREE, The Wife we can Discuss IF you take the KIDS as well, But the Chrysler is Seriously Gonna Cost YA.. But if you Pay all shipping i will except $3289 Plus Old Brown, ( and i don,t mean the Turd you just passed ).... |
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Location: new york | This is a repeat of the 1980s surge in car prices,When noncar people start "investing" in old cars the prices go skyhigh than when they start going to stocks etc the market seems to drop out . Remember the bulk of the people who love old cars are working slobs and they cant pay $100. an hour to have their dream car done ! And now after the surges in the 80s and lately there are lots of restored cars around ,and trhe cars from the 40s 50s the people who had them are getting up in age this will put more on the market.so in the next ten years will those 57 Ch**ys that are very common will still have the value theres a supply ,but will there still be a demand?Our foward look cars are rare,and there seems to be an intrest by a youngr generation ,still this younger generation seems to love their JAP CRAP 4cly buzzbombs (to each his own) but only the future will tell!!! HAPPY MOTORING!!!! |
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Location: Delray Beach, FL | Fanbladeus - 2007-10-21 4:08 PM
Alot of those cars went craaazzzzy cheap. I guess the wrong people showed up.
I think they had two too many doors on them.
As has been suggested - this is a good lesson for anybody thinking about sinking a bunch of money into a 4-door collectible. Almost always you can find a good buy on a completed car for less than it will cost you to fix something up. It just requires a bit of patience and dicipline. |
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Location: Minneapolis | I dont know about "crazy cheap". Some low prices, yes, but the market is soft and this is not the time of the year to sell collector cars.
This one auction cannot really set the standards for the market, obviously. I wouldnt refer to it as any guide IMO.
I am surprised that '61 brought that much, it sounds to be rather rough. |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil!
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Location: bishop, ca | The real-world fair-bidding purchase prices,on these cars, which were barely, if at all "driveable", appear to me to be
very reasonable.
A careful (I do realize that that might be asking a lot) evaluation of the cars' condition, their model-types, equipment, and
operational capability, in relation to their selling-prices, does appear to show a reasonable consistency among the auction
results.
Clive's car's condition, or anyone else's car's condition, as long as it is fully operational, has very little relationship to these
prettied-up 'barn finds'.
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Location: near St Augustine, FL | IMO, the photos of the cars were actually better than their actual condition. Most sat in unheated buildings for 15 or more years. Closer inspection of interiors, engine compartments and undersides revealed serious need of attention. I don't believe any of the cars were prepped for long term storage, meaning anything with fluid in it was gummed up or corroded (gas tanks, brakes, radiators, etc...). Craaaazzyy expensive on several of them after serious evaluation. I think most winning Internet bidders will be unhappy. Just my two cents. |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil!
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Location: bishop, ca | There is a very informative/revealing posting, on the Daily List Server board, on 10/22, by a man who was at the auction, and who was not particularly impressed with the cars' condition.
To find that message, go to the FWDLK's Homepage, find the masthead-categories, & click-on the "FL Archive" board, and go to 10/22 .
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Location: Warren, Michigan | That is disheartening. From the pictures the cars looked great. I will withdraw my statement about them going crazy cheap as I did not have the opportunity to check the cars out for myself. |
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Location: The Mile High City | When all is said and done, it is a little bit sad to see such a remarkable collection broken up. Every year of DeSoto! Will it ever be done again? Is there another collection like that out there somewhere? Some of the value was in the feat itself - and that value (whatever it was) was lost in the auction.
Edited by Lancer Mike 2007-10-24 1:01 PM
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Binder auction; Price benchmark for our times?
