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wizard
Posted 2013-02-22 12:26 PM (#361286 - in reply to #361280)
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imopar380 - 2013-02-22 6:06 PM

Sven, do the door locks automatically lock when the car starts moving after a few seconds? I once read somewhere in the literature from Chrysler that they engage automatically when the car starts moving.


Absolutely not Ian - the Safe-T-Matic is very analog and purely mechanical. The actuators moves only by the inside toggle switch. You open the drivers door with the key and go inside - then you toggle the switch and open the other three doors (actually all 4 actuators moves, but the drivers door is already locked up).
Then if you wish, you toggle the switch for to lock all doors once all passengers are inside.

Our Sebring 2002 vert and our 300C Touring locks once the speed comes up to 19 mph

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imopar380
Posted 2013-02-22 10:39 PM (#361377 - in reply to #361286)
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wizard - 2013-02-22 9:26 AM

imopar380 - 2013-02-22 6:06 PM

Sven, do the door locks automatically lock when the car starts moving after a few seconds? I once read somewhere in the literature from Chrysler that they engage automatically when the car starts moving.


Absolutely not Ian - the Safe-T-Matic is very analog and purely mechanical. The actuators moves only by the inside toggle switch. You open the drivers door with the key and go inside - then you toggle the switch and open the other three doors (actually all 4 actuators moves, but the drivers door is already locked up).
Then if you wish, you toggle the switch for to lock all doors once all passengers are inside.

Our Sebring 2002 vert and our 300C Touring locks once the speed comes up to 19 mph


I'm sure I read it in some old Chrysler literature some time over the past year. Being vacuum actuated you'd think it would be an easy thing to make work when the car starts running and increasing vacuum. I just went through all my literature but I can't find anything. Maybe I was dreaming.....but I'm sure......? If I ever find it I'll be sure to share it.

Ian

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wizard
Posted 2013-03-19 3:26 AM (#365370 - in reply to #104798)
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To day we celebrate the name day Josefina - I bought my JoseFin today six years ago!
I had so much fun and interesting challanges during those years, and I finally fixed the windshield wipers - now they park correct again

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Resurrector
Posted 2013-03-19 9:50 AM (#365390 - in reply to #365370)
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Congradulations Wizard, she's a fine looking machine. Love that colour, and those four door hardtops! All those challenges just make our cars that much more enjoyable when we get them fixed
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Posted 2013-03-19 5:25 PM (#365445 - in reply to #104798)
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What size and make of tires are you running?
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wizard
Posted 2013-03-19 5:39 PM (#365446 - in reply to #104798)
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They are "Classic Radials" - dont know from which brand/maker. Size P225/75/14 - they have been really good, but they're worn out now. Least here in Sweden, there just arn't any of that dimension left ANYWHERE - so it seems. I will most probably change to 15" rims - not sure yet, but I'm thinking of a modern quality tire in 235/75R15 size. Just feed up with the ultrahigh prices for junktires produced in condemned tire molds by some Asians
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Posted 2013-03-19 7:35 PM (#365453 - in reply to #361377)
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Maybe they were not so concerned about bein hijacked in those days

Its not really a common feature on central locking cars here yet.

Most of the cars I have come across that dose have anti hijack, its turned off.

I pesonally dont like being in a locked car, but would like being hijacked even less

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imopar380
Posted 2013-03-19 7:54 PM (#365454 - in reply to #365453)
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Sven, one day can you make up a You_Tube video showing all your accessories working, including the vacuum locks. I see you finally put in a New Yorker grille as well, looks good.


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Cmangeot
Posted 2013-03-19 8:52 PM (#365463 - in reply to #365454)
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Sven.....how do you fix the wipers not parking. My Windsor is doing the same thing.
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wizard
Posted 2013-03-20 2:49 AM (#365511 - in reply to #365463)
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Cmangeot - 2013-03-20 2:52 AM

Sven.....how do you fix the wipers not parking. My Windsor is doing the same thing.

Well, actually, I don't know yet - this is what I did;

Bought a spare wiper motor and a spare variable wiper switch.
Connected the spare variable wiper switch directly to the original motor - same problem
Connected the mounted variable wiper switch to the spare motor - worked well and parked
Connected the spare variable wiper switch to the spare motor - worked well and parked.
Changed the wiper motor and kept the mounted variable wiper switch - works and park.

The problem started when the car was used in rain - seems like moist or water got into the motor? Thereafter the wiper did not park. Put the car in the garage, a couple of days after, the wiper parked nicely again. Worked in this way for a year, then "pof" never parked again.

When I get some time, I'll open up the original motor for to investigate the problem, repair it and keep the motor as spare.
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wizard
Posted 2014-03-21 12:50 PM (#432295 - in reply to #104798)
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New upgrade; Emergency flasher (inspired by Sermey) and Golden Touch converted radio with the self seeking in function.
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wizard
Posted 2014-03-27 2:26 PM (#433364 - in reply to #104798)
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New update on the option list;

Convenience;
Automatic Beamchanger
Auto-Pilot
Mirrormatic
Swivel Seats
6-way Power seat
Power windows
Golden Touch Tone 7-button radio (FM/digital stereo amplifier 4X45W converted with the original search-function renovated)
Rear speaker trim and mesh
Power antenna (aftermarket whatever)
RCA AP-1 Record Changer
Vanity mirror
Dual Exhaust system
Locking Fuel Tank Cap (MoPar)
Rear Cig Lighter Console on center seat


Safety;
Rear defroster
Safe-T-Matic vacuum power door locks
Child Guard Rear door safety locks
Delux Padded Lucite steeringwheel
3-post hooded rearviewmirror, passenger side
4-Way Emergency Flasher (Inspired by Serge)

Fashion/Decor;
Fender ornaments
All chrome inside HT trim
Rear bumper guards


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wizard
Posted 2016-07-08 4:17 PM (#516254 - in reply to #104798)
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New update on the option list;

Convenience;
Automatic Beamchanger
Auto-Pilot
Mirrormatic
Swivel Seats
6-way Power seat
Power windows
Golden Touch Tone 7-button radio (FM/digital stereo amplifier 4X45W converted with the original search-function renovated)
Rear speaker trim and mesh
Power antenna (aftermarket whatever)
RCA AP-1 Record Changer
Vanity mirror
Dual Exhaust system
Locking Fuel Tank Cap (MoPar)
Rear Cig Lighter Console on center seat
Electric trunk latch (not an original option, latch from a newer MoPar, inspired by Ian Smale)


Safety;
Rear defroster
Safe-T-Matic vacuum power door locks
Child Guard Rear door safety locks
Delux Padded Lucite steeringwheel
3-post hooded rearviewmirror, passenger side
4-Way Emergency Flasher (Inspired by Serge)

Fashion/Decor;
Fender ornaments
All chrome inside HT trim
Rear bumper guards
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imopar380
Posted 2016-07-08 11:39 PM (#516277 - in reply to #365511)
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wizard - 2013-03-19 11:49 PM

Cmangeot - 2013-03-20 2:52 AM

Sven.....how do you fix the wipers not parking. My Windsor is doing the same thing.

Well, actually, I don't know yet - this is what I did;

Bought a spare wiper motor and a spare variable wiper switch.
Connected the spare variable wiper switch directly to the original motor - same problem
Connected the mounted variable wiper switch to the spare motor - worked well and parked
Connected the spare variable wiper switch to the spare motor - worked well and parked.
Changed the wiper motor and kept the mounted variable wiper switch - works and park.

The problem started when the car was used in rain - seems like moist or water got into the motor? Thereafter the wiper did not park. Put the car in the garage, a couple of days after, the wiper parked nicely again. Worked in this way for a year, then "pof" never parked again.

When I get some time, I'll open up the original motor for to investigate the problem, repair it and keep the motor as spare.


I had that exact same issue with my ex-1960 Polara when I was driving it as a daily driver back in the 1970s When the car got wet, wipers would not park. When it all dried out, they would park. Now Ron, who owns the car, has had the same issue lately when the car got wet. Dried out, working again. Let us know if and when you find the exact issue.
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wizard
Posted 2016-07-09 3:13 AM (#516286 - in reply to #104798)
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The issue is that the contacts in the wiper motor are damaged or has bad Contact. In my case, a cam notch was broken off - I was able to repair it and the motor is now in stock as spare.
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wizard
Posted 2018-09-04 12:26 AM (#569552 - in reply to #104798)
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New update on the option list;

Convenience;
Automatic Beamchanger
Auto-Pilot
Mirrormatic
Swivel Seats
6-way Power seat
Power windows
Golden Touch Tone 7-button radio (FM/digital stereo amplifier 4X45W converted with the original search-function renovated)
Rear speaker trim and mesh
Power antenna (aftermarket whatever)
RCA AP-1 Record Changer
Vanity mirror
Dual Exhaust system
Locking Fuel Tank Cap (MoPar)
Rear Cig Lighter Console on center seat
Electric trunk latch (not an original option, latch from a newer MoPar, inspired by Ian Smale)
Alternator, 50 Amp Birdcage with original 1960 option mounting bracket


Safety;
Rear defroster
Safe-T-Matic vacuum power door locks
Child Guard Rear door safety locks
Delux Padded Lucite steeringwheel
3-post hooded rearviewmirror, passenger side
4-Way Emergency Flasher (Inspired by Serge)

Fashion/Decor;
Fender ornaments
All chrome inside HT trim
Rear bumper guards



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60 Imp
Posted 2018-09-04 8:59 AM (#569561 - in reply to #104798)
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Yep, looks like terminal A.C.D. Wizard! Nice work.

Steve.
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Powerflite
Posted 2018-09-04 10:06 AM (#569565 - in reply to #569552)
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What is this optional alternator mounting bracket? Are you referring to the bottom mount? What does it look like? I didn't know you could purchase an alternator for these. I thought they were only used on the Valiant.
My '60 NY has most of these options except for the auto pilot, record player & beamchanger. But to me, it just means more work to go through them all to make them function again.
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wizard
Posted 2018-09-04 11:01 AM (#569570 - in reply to #104798)
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The original optional alternator bracket was used for the few cars that was equipped with the new alternator (standard on Valiant).

It seems that MoPar introduced the alternators on the low price Valiants for to test them, but the alternator was available as an option for the bigger cars.

For me, it is a challenge and very interesting to repair and make all these options to work as in the old days.

Below, please see photos of the oem bracket and the homemade connection support between te original generator reinforcement brackets and the alternator bracket. This way there will be most probably never be any problems with the installation.



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