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Chrycoman |
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Expert Posts: 1819 Location: Vancouver, BC | Rob - 2008-10-26 3:46 PM HMMMMM, thought all red interior '61 Plymouths had black steering wheels and columns? That apparently is not the case here, as the pictured red interior car has a red wheel and column. Any comments? It's a Canadian 1961 Plymouth and the Canadian parts book does list a red steering wheel for Plymouth and Dodge Dart. Also saw a red 1961 Plymouth Fury 2-door hardtop at a car show in Seattle about 5-6 years ago - red exterior with red interior with a red steering wheel and column. | ||
suburban61 |
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Expert Posts: 1480 Location: Australia | pics of kyle's suburban.... and whats great is its one we havent already found!! cheers adriana :] (kyles custom suburban 1.jpg) (kyles custom suburban 2.jpg) (kyles custom suburban 3.jpg) (kyles custom suburban 5.jpg) (kyles custom suburban.jpg) Attachments ---------------- kyles custom suburban 1.jpg (61KB - 393 downloads) kyles custom suburban 2.jpg (50KB - 501 downloads) kyles custom suburban 3.jpg (51KB - 362 downloads) kyles custom suburban 5.jpg (72KB - 326 downloads) kyles custom suburban.jpg (52KB - 351 downloads) | ||
moparkiller65 |
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Member Posts: 8 Location: Fairbanks, Alaska | i have the ca in the shop now im hopping to work on it tomorrow | ||
moparkiller65 |
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Member Posts: 8 Location: Fairbanks, Alaska | well i forund out what i might need lol front bumper,side view mirror,driverside rear door,front right panel,grill,headlight besals interior:both sets of push putons head liner carpet,stiring wheel,dash,and door panels | ||
DavidinHartford |
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Member Posts: 20 Location: Connecticut | I came across another wagon pic. This one was just outside of Albany Newyork. This was taken at least 10 years ago. It was pretty rough then. It was sitting pretty low in the dirt. Note the twin spot lights. Edited by DavidinHartford 2008-11-03 9:40 AM | ||
suburban61 |
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Expert Posts: 1480 Location: Australia | like i said parts car is your best bet and will worjk out chgeapest in the long run... did you get the info i sent you? adriama | ||
moparkiller65 |
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Member Posts: 8 Location: Fairbanks, Alaska | i might be getting ahold of a brand new hemi motor to put in the wagon along with the brain,tranny,and all the electronics | ||
vedette |
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Expert Posts: 3069 Location: Scotland | well adriana since i'm getting the blame for pinching all your '61 plymouth wagon postcards i'd better make up by dedicating a wee tune to you http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=IpSK1BnjdGw | ||
suburban61 |
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Expert Posts: 1480 Location: Australia | thats cool... cant say the song is too flash, but its worth putting up with to see the Sub.... wonder if its the same red & white one that dave posted pics of? by the way vedette i did say that if i am to be out bidded im glad it was you.... hope you didnt take offence.... thanks for the clip.... adriana | ||
suburban61 |
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Expert Posts: 1480 Location: Australia | oh how i would love to add this one to my fleet, but sadly that wont be happening.... id plate states its a 'sportsman', but it has original 'custom' side trim, and is a 9 seater (only available on the 'sportsman' models, and rare as) so a little bit of a mystery, maybe special order? coral and alpine white, 318, electric tailgate, deflectors (rare option), fury bar... hopefully someone restores this one to its former glory.... only just passed $1000us.... a steal at that price... cheers adriana http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=12034... (0e85_12.JPG) (1c24_12.JPG) (01fb_12.JPG) (3c00_12.JPG) (08ee_12.JPG) (10dd_12.JPG) (20c3_12.JPG) (169b_12.JPG) (4203_12.JPG) (fdec_12.JPG) Attachments ---------------- 0e85_12.JPG (37KB - 332 downloads) 1c24_12.JPG (39KB - 363 downloads) 01fb_12.JPG (44KB - 336 downloads) 3c00_12.JPG (31KB - 320 downloads) 08ee_12.JPG (33KB - 357 downloads) 10dd_12.JPG (32KB - 328 downloads) 20c3_12.JPG (33KB - 321 downloads) 169b_12.JPG (28KB - 357 downloads) 4203_12.JPG (27KB - 339 downloads) fdec_12.JPG (45KB - 355 downloads) | ||
Chrycoman |
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Expert Posts: 1819 Location: Vancouver, BC | The car is a 1961 Plymouth Custom Suburban (Belvedere) but it is not a Sportsman. Plymouth never used the Sportsman name. That was used by DeSoto for its 1950-59 hardtops and by Dodge Trucks for their van-based wagons. The VIN, 3617184942, decodes as : 3 - Plymouth V8 6 - wagon - medium-price - Custom * 1 - 1961 model year 7 - St.Louis assembly plant 184942 - 84,942nd 1961 car off the St.Louis line. Plymouth did offer a Sports Suburban, with Fury interior and exterior trim, but it was not offered as a 2-door model. The 2-door wagon did not have a special name and was offered one last time for 1961 in the base Suburban (Savoy) series. Previous years had a 2-door wagon in the mid Custom Suburban series. 2,464 2-door Suburban wagons were built fro 1961. 1961 Custom Suburban production consisted of 13,553 2-seat and 6,355 3-seat models. The high-priced Sport Suburban saw 2,844 2-seat and 3,088 3-seat wagons. The base Suburban series also produced 12,980 2-seat wagons. Sport Suburban wagons and Suburban 2-seat wagons were built only in the U.S. while Chrysler of Canada also offered a base Suburban 3-seat wagon - 74 built. * - The classifications for the series/body style VIN digit - 1 - low-priced non-wagon models 2 - medium-priced non-wagon models 3 - high-priced non-wagon models 4 - sport non-wagon models 5 - low-priced wagon models 6 - medium-priced wagon models 7 - high-priced wagon models 8 - taxi 9 - police 0 - fleet Plymouth did not offer a "4" model in 1960-61. It is not a "radio delete" car as 1961 Plymouths did not come with radios as standard equipment. It is simply a car ordered without the optional radio. That bar on the front bumper was optional, sales code 344. | ||
suburban61 |
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Expert Posts: 1480 Location: Australia | i have seen the top of the range wagons refered to as both 'sportsman suburban' and 'sports suburban'.... the bottom of the range wagon is called 'deluxe' and this is the model that was offered as a two-door. i am so embarrassed, i checked the chrysler standards catalogue and yes there were 9 passenger custom suburbans produced, only available in V8, their production number is unknown, shows that reading vintage magazines can give you false information... its the only 9 pass custom suburban i've ever seen none the less.... i am so sorry next time i will check & double check before i open my mouth... sorry everyone.... adriana Edited by suburban61 2008-12-05 2:42 AM | ||
Ray Bell |
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Expert Posts: 2473 Location: Dalveen, Queensland, Australia | Adriana... you've become a star in your own right... you don't need to apologise for getting confused with all the internet garbage that's about... Just to show how silly things get, ask someone who 'knows' about S4 Holdens. Ask them what differed between a regular Holden and an S4. Bet you hear some utterly stupid things! Originally posted by nz 61savoy What is the best way to convert my wagon to disc brakes on the front, bearing in mind I live in New Zealand? Vaughan, there are lots of ways, but basically the best way to do it is scour around the wreckers and find a disc that will adapt easily to your hubs. Then get some steel plate, about 3/8" is good, and get it bored and drilled and tapped to suit your 'spindles' or 'uprights' and a suitable caliper. Suggest you look at discs from a Valiant first, the late ones, VH, VK, CL etc, then maybe go with a 4-pot caliper from some large 4WD, Toyota Landcruiser is popular for this purpose here, though you need to reduce disc diameter for that, something I don't like, or space the caliper out a bit and grind a bit out of the gap. One more thing that I've noticed with all the pics on this thread... the continuation of the 'reversed fin' theme (as exemplified on the '61 Dodges) in the trim at the rear of these Suburbans. Adriana, when I come to Adelaide next I'm going to see your wagon! | ||
suburban61 |
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Expert Posts: 1480 Location: Australia | thankyou, but feel like an idiot... sure ray, i dont mind if you invite yourself, lol... its goin into the panel shop early january (thats if i have no more set backs) but your welcome to come see it before or after it gets back, you can check out dads mopar wheels also... cheers adriana | ||
Ray Bell |
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Expert Posts: 2473 Location: Dalveen, Queensland, Australia | I will invite myself, Adriana... no question of it... You've got to admit, apart from your wagon being unique in Australia, you are too! Name any other 19 year old girl whose first car is a Forward Look machine she's dreamed about for years... you won't find any anywhere! Sometimes you just have to live with your fame. And I've got to meet your dad too, he's obviously something special too. | ||
suburban61 |
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Expert Posts: 1480 Location: Australia | my first car was an ap6 actually, but suburban (oscar) is the first car ive fully owned & paid for myself... and i love oscar can someone tell me if they made any tv commercials for the '61 plymouths? i cant find any... i found a lovely one for the '60 http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=RZkVdYJ0stM&feature=related and every other year i might add, but never any for '61.... i have to say im starting to like the '60 plymouths too adriana Edited by suburban61 2008-12-07 11:06 PM | ||
firedome |
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Expert Posts: 3155 Location: NY & VT | Adrianna, have you seen the Leave It To Beaver episodes where Ward drives up in his '61 Plymmie? ... I'm sure they're on YouTube someplace. He had other years of Plyms as well! BTW Eric in Texas who got my '61 undercover car is turning it into a black & white! | ||
Ray Bell |
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Expert Posts: 2473 Location: Dalveen, Queensland, Australia | Adriana has made much mention of the 'mascara' here... I reckon that would be a very valuable addition to these cars... They'd prevent those nasty stone chips that any near-vertical painted surface at the front of a car is prone to get on our roads. I'm sure it happens there too? | ||
suburban61 |
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Expert Posts: 1480 Location: Australia | roger, i am still hunting for leave it to beaver on dvd, but it hasnt been released here yet... get eric to send you some pics of his progress and then you can post em here.... | ||
moparkiller65 |
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Member Posts: 8 Location: Fairbanks, Alaska | i cant work on my wagon because the block and everything else is frozen solid lol.its been like -15 so i cant work on it and i have a lot of parts for it | ||
nz 61savoy |
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Member Posts: 17 Location: cntrl nth island new zealand | hi there adriana, ive been a bit busy lately and havnt got to the puter much, will put some pics on next week as mine is being used in my mates wedding next weekend so i am finishing at the moment, will get pics off my other puter so can see mine when basically new out side funeral home in the bottom of the south island of new zealand , mine has different interior than other 61s on here, i put some pics of my dash and interior on here but not sure where, will be back soon. vaughan | ||
suburban61 |
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Expert Posts: 1480 Location: Australia | hello vaughan... check out this site (if you havent seen it already...) http://www.kustomklassics.com/61plymouth.html, looks like yours, even has the same seat coverings, and was a hearse also... would love to see the pics of your wagon now its done... did you hunt down any headlight rings? my dads mates daughter is getting married in NZ next weekend, how funny would it be if it was the wedding your involved with... keep the updates coming... cheers adriana | ||
nz 61savoy |
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Member Posts: 17 Location: cntrl nth island new zealand | back again , had a last minute panic getting it done but i used my 61 in a mates wedding last weekend, boys in mine and the girls in the grooms 73 satelite, also there is a picture for you adriana of mine outside the funeral home that brought it in to nz in 61, not to sure what year the photo was taken but your old man might know from how old the holden is in the pic, havent put the front trim back on yet but is good to be dring it again cheers, vaughan (wgn2.jpg) (wgn4.jpg) (hearse m&w.jpg) Attachments ---------------- wgn2.jpg (284KB - 329 downloads) wgn4.jpg (262KB - 335 downloads) hearse m&w.jpg (114KB - 337 downloads) | ||
Ray Bell |
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Expert Posts: 2473 Location: Dalveen, Queensland, Australia | The Holden is an EJ model... introduced mid-1962, on sale until mid-1963 when replaced by the EH. | ||
suburban61 |
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Expert Posts: 1480 Location: Australia | fabulous vaughan... still no headlight rings? whats the story with the chrome that meant to be around the back side windows & the plymouth letters off the tailgate, doesnt even look like it was on it in the old photo... what a great old photo, they even had a 4-door sedan (this is the kind of funeral home i wish to go to when i die....) did you look at the hearse in the link that i emailed you, its almost the twin of your sub... do you have pics of your sub with the wedding ribbons on?? do you still have your original hubcaps? i like the plates by the way... cheers adriana | ||
Ray Bell |
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Expert Posts: 2473 Location: Dalveen, Queensland, Australia | Yeah... those numberplates are certainly as much a work of art as is the car! | ||
suburban61 |
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Expert Posts: 1480 Location: Australia | latest finds.... if you have info on these please post here or pm me please.... adriana (100_0538.JPG) (99377-2.1961.Plymouth.Belvedere.jpg) (a12bb.jpg) (MVC-003F-314x231.jpg) (Trip to Paducah KY & Lathrop MO 008r.JPG) (1g8137149ZZZZZZZZZ8a26f838b9302be1aea.jpg) (70dc_1.JPG) (Plymouth_stw1961.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 100_0538.JPG (43KB - 331 downloads) 99377-2.1961.Plymouth.Belvedere.jpg (26KB - 347 downloads) a12bb.jpg (18KB - 343 downloads) MVC-003F-314x231.jpg (17KB - 339 downloads) Trip to Paducah KY & Lathrop MO 008r.JPG (174KB - 409 downloads) 1g8137149ZZZZZZZZZ8a26f838b9302be1aea.jpg (9KB - 330 downloads) 70dc_1.JPG (64KB - 350 downloads) Plymouth_stw1961.jpg (28KB - 340 downloads) | ||
h-bomb |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 638 Location: Johns Creek, Georgia | Here's one for ya! Awesome '61 wagon at the Mopar Show at Atlanta Motor Speedway May 2009: Edited by h-bomb 2009-05-04 12:03 PM | ||
Ray Bell |
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Expert Posts: 2473 Location: Dalveen, Queensland, Australia | Now wouldn't that be awesome up the Norton Summit Road, Adriana? With brakes to frighten the pants off you on the way down, too... | ||
suburban61 |
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Expert Posts: 1480 Location: Australia | oh my goodness! you have made my day h-bomb!!!!! STUNNING!!!!!! i wonder what the original colour was? maybe it was airforce blue and they changed the tone slightly... i think this is the 2-door i saw about a year ago in i think mopar action or mopar muscle magazine... there was only a small pic, and im still kicking myself for not buying the $14.95 magazine... if anyone has the mag im talking about ill buy it off you if you wish to part with it or just if someone knows what issue it was... do you have the contact details of the owner.... that colour is just devine... any inside shots? thanks so much, adriana | ||
h-bomb |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 638 Location: Johns Creek, Georgia | I thought you'd get a kick out of this one. My buddy Pete and I were talking about the car while were at the show and I said "Adriana's gonna flip over this one." The car was built by a guy in Tennessee who has a shop called "Chuck's Hot Rods," or something along those lines. The two pics above are the only two I took. Pete took a couple as well, but we both neglected to take any of the interior. The car is a four-speed, by the way. | ||
suburban61 |
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Expert Posts: 1480 Location: Australia | they must have spent alot of money on that sub... that colour is just devine, i cant stop looking at it.... the metallics look so nice on these wagons... im in love with it... thankyou for the pics adriana | ||
firedome |
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Expert Posts: 3155 Location: NY & VT | You sound like you're in the same dilemma (sp?) as me with regards to painting your own car Adriana - keep changing my mind, just can't decide! there's so many great colors! Did you ever see a '61 plym in Lavender Metallic? pale purple metallic color...check out the actual color chip of it... WOW! I was going to do my '61 Belvy in that. | ||
suburban61 |
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Expert Posts: 1480 Location: Australia | no i have not... ive seen the johan promo coupe models in that colour... i guess it was just a little flamboyant in its day, lol... i did see a small pixelated thumbnail pic of a purple ragtop in scandinavia/ finland somewhere, alas i think it was undercoat purple not original purple... ive not seen a suburban either in carnival red so i keep resorting back to the original colour... im so indecisive, what ever i end up deciding i will probably not be happy with anyway so i guess just stick with original and that way i can just blame the original owner... lol... hows your plymmies new owner getting along anyhow? cheers adriana | ||
firedome |
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Expert Posts: 3155 Location: NY & VT | Adriana, Broderick's (he's named for Broderick Crawford, the star of Highway Patrol) new owner in Texas, Eric, got the 361 HP (High Perfomance) engine running well no problem, and it now sports police car Blcak & White! It's far from the pale purple that I'd have done (flashy color for a flashy car!) so he's no longer undercover, it's a patrol car now! ... just PM christinesbro here and I'm sure he'll send you a pic! Original 1961 Plymouth paint chips by the paint manufactuers DuPont, Ditzler, Duco etc are readily available on eBay for from $5-10 and well worth having to see the actual color (they spray an actual sample of the factory paint on the chip), to add to the literature that goes with your year car, and helpful for deciding what color to paint it! Edited by firedome 2009-05-05 1:59 PM | ||
suburban61 |
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Expert Posts: 1480 Location: Australia | oh, thats who owns it now... yeah i have paint chips here, one of the first things i bought... theres a few colours that are rarely or never seen... maize yellow? silver gray metallic? bronze metallic? airforce blue? (this is the colour daves sub was and i persume the new 2door is/ was) oh how i wish i had one of those dealership stands where you could slip the colours behind the car and see what the coupe would look like in a certain colour and a draw of interior fabric samples... someday i will track on down... cheers adriana | ||
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Expert Posts: 3967 Location: DFW, TX | Adriana, this is the '61 Suburban located in Montana that I mentioned many pages back. Looks like a parts car, but a very complete one. http://montana.craigslist.org/cto/1157747137.html | ||
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Expert Posts: 1480 Location: Australia | yeah that one is at fremans auto... he emailed me pics and now its on ebay... i love it! coral sports suburban with mascara inserts someone should save this one... a few sports have been coming out of the wood work of late... cheers adriana | ||
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Expert Posts: 1480 Location: Australia | time to dust of this thread and update it... well i found a couple of the owners of subs on this thread... wade who owns the turquoise/ white one... michael who owns the stunning all original coral one and scott who owns the coral custom 9 seater sub... so welcome... cheers adriana (05 01 09 027.JPG) (P4210004.JPG) (postcard.jpg) (california.jpg) Attachments ---------------- GetAttachment-13.aspx.jpeg (73KB - 348 downloads) 05 01 09 027.JPG (87KB - 355 downloads) P4210004.JPG (59KB - 310 downloads) postcard.jpg (70KB - 343 downloads) california.jpg (101KB - 331 downloads) | ||
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Expert Posts: 1480 Location: Australia | i thought it about time to resurface this thread and update it on the latest 1961 plymouth suburban discoveries... please add pics of any new ones you have seen lately cheers adriana (3822215170_32b7564d56.jpg) (kuhns pennsylvania.jpg) (61sw-1.jpg) (DSCN4855_detail.JPG) (3k53m33oe5W65S55R1a4b4fa86d115d5012b9-1.jpg) (Picture 189.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 3822215170_32b7564d56.jpg (48KB - 327 downloads) kuhns pennsylvania.jpg (30KB - 307 downloads) 61sw-1.jpg (11KB - 325 downloads) DSCN4855_detail.JPG (50KB - 324 downloads) 3k53m33oe5W65S55R1a4b4fa86d115d5012b9-1.jpg (11KB - 306 downloads) Picture 189.jpg (174KB - 386 downloads) GetAttachment-20.aspx.jpeg (57KB - 317 downloads) GetAttachment-13.aspx.jpeg (73KB - 357 downloads) | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 1172 Location: Georgia | Here are two from Georgia, the first from a private 'collection' way down south, and the second wagon from a boneyard in Lafayette, GA. (ThomasvilleGA1.jpg) (ThomasvilleGA2.jpg) (oldcarcityga2 (5).jpg) (oldcarcityga4 (2).jpg) Attachments ---------------- ThomasvilleGA1.jpg (52KB - 336 downloads) ThomasvilleGA2.jpg (51KB - 355 downloads) oldcarcityga2 (5).jpg (70KB - 304 downloads) oldcarcityga4 (2).jpg (65KB - 318 downloads) | ||
Ray Bell |
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Expert Posts: 2473 Location: Dalveen, Queensland, Australia | Still a lot of good stuff on them... I suppose Adriana has booked her flight already! | ||
suburban61 |
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Expert Posts: 1480 Location: Australia | SavoyPlaza - 2010-04-23 1:45 PM Here are two from Georgia, the first from a private 'collection' way down south, and the second wagon from a boneyard in Lafayette, GA. thanks... i had pics of the top one, just realised i forgot to post pics... the bottom one i hadn't seen before, strange a sports wagon with a manual tailgate crank... are you able to get the VIN and Dataplate by anychance or have the contact details for the yard? looks very complete, wonder how rusty it is? cheers adriana | ||
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Veteran Posts: 204 Location: St. Louis, MO. USA | If Adriana is not interested I can sure use the front end trim pieces on mine! (61 Plymouth Wagon Right S.JPG) Attachments ---------------- 61 Plymouth Wagon Right S.JPG (28KB - 304 downloads) | ||
suburban61 |
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Expert Posts: 1480 Location: Australia | i have stock piled enough headlight rings for another 3 suburbans... adriana | ||
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Location: Parts Unknown | Are those factory pine needles on those last couple pix ? I see a lot of cars with this option, but never see it listed on the order sheet. And how about the blue, hood-mounted barrels ? Those really dress a car up, don't they ! | ||
firedome |
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Expert Posts: 3155 Location: NY & VT | Amazing really how many are still around, sort of, in one form or another... | ||
suburban61 |
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Expert Posts: 1480 Location: Australia | its only because i hunt high and low for them... if someone did this much searching for another specific type of wagon you'd probably get the same results... there does seem to be more coming out the wood work lately however... i guess people are starting to see that wagons actually are liked and desirable to own... adriana | ||
suburban61 |
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Expert Posts: 1480 Location: Australia | right... well i have made a 1961 plymouth suburban facebook group... http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=119883064703533&ref=ts if you have a '61 suburban please join... if you know someone who has one please let them know... cheers adriana | ||
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Expert Posts: 3069 Location: Scotland | here's a hip video for our new hippy adriana http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2f_mmt88NwI Edited by vedette 2010-06-27 9:54 PM | ||
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