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Elite Veteran Posts: 1150    Location: Southern California | Well I never thought I'd be one of the lucky ones to find and buy a completley rust free all original unrestored 1958 plymouth sport suburban. This car has the original paint from 1958, which from a test I did will buff right out. The above pictures are as I found her sittin in this dry California garage since 1970. Has original black plates with tags from 1970 The underside of the car was unbeliveble no rust anywhere. I was able to come across this car thanks to Diesel45 and Perry who put me in touch with the owner, out of respect for the familys loss (original owner of the 58) I will keep their names confidential. I bought the car from the original owners daughter. Shes a very nice lady and had alot of memories with this car. I was happy to share my plans and passions for these cars with her, she was pleased. The story goes that at around 1970 the car was parked and had not moved since then. Essentially this is like Tulsa Time capsle only this time its a 38 years old since parked. The car has a 1962 Coca Cola bottle inside alog with an NFL newspaper headline about a chargers game dated 1969. I also found some sixties 9v batterys in the glove box that look still new along with the cars original owners manuel and a pack of matches from 1959. I could not have asked for a better car to company my 58 plymmie 2dr hardtop. This car is in great shape, the mileage on the Odometer reads 13,271 could it be actual miles? either way this car cleaned up pretty good. below are some pics as I found her in her 38 year old tomb and the last few pics show what some good car wash soap and some scrubby scrub can do. I will update more pics soon of the interior, motor, and buffed out pics of the paint soon. stay tuned Bad58mike  (tomb.JPG) (tomb2.JPG) (tomb3.JPG) (tomb4.JPG) (tomb5.JPG) (cleanedup.JPG) (clean3.JPG) (clean2.JPG) Attachments ----------------  tomb.JPG (75KB - 269 downloads) tomb2.JPG (65KB - 223 downloads) tomb3.JPG (75KB - 217 downloads) tomb4.JPG (80KB - 214 downloads) tomb5.JPG (86KB - 214 downloads) cleanedup.JPG (83KB - 236 downloads) clean3.JPG (67KB - 208 downloads) clean2.JPG (67KB - 232 downloads) | ||
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| bad58mike |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 1150 Location: Southern California | sorry for the typos above I typed it fast due to the excitment of it all.  | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 1150 Location: Southern California | can't wait till there both in the same garage  (mycars1.jpg) Attachments ---------------- mycars1.jpg (52KB - 224 downloads) | ||
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Expert Posts: 2244 Location: Yorba Linda, Ca | hmmmm, a wagon, are ya planning "A BIG FL Family", Mike? LOL be sure to buy a house that has at least a 3 car garage and 5 bedrooms  Gorgeous car, has the Dodge sold, and if so, where did she "Wind up"? Gary | ||
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| Diesel45 |
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Expert Posts: 1539 Location: Farnborough. Hampshire. England. | Hey Mike, congratulations on securing that beautiful wagon... Perry told me that the bonnet was badly creased due to the family forcing it open, because of frozen hinges, but I can't see any damage in your pics, was I misinformed?....... So, you finally got the wagon, it was worth the phone call eh ?  Don't know if you're aware, but Perry bought the Caprice for himself... | ||
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| bad58mike |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 1150 Location: Southern California | Thanks for all the comments guys, shes a real beauty and I'm very happy. I just want you all to know that since she has been well preserved I plan to keep her original and keep her original paint, I will have it buffed out to a shiny finish. There was a crease on ther hood but its amazing how metal has memory I took a rubber mallet to it and smacked it and she popped right back into place, problem solved ;). As far as the other car is concerned it was a 1965 chebbie caprice and was sold to Perry. I think what happened to the plymouth in 1970 as evidence from under the hood it as to why she was parked was a mess of oil every where especially under the hood. I think that what happened was that around 1970 Americ switched its cars from lead to unleaded gas and this car had the soft seats for lead. then when the owner started putting unleaded the seats weren't upgraded and the oil began to leak and the fan sprayed it under the hood to the fire wall etc.. Correct me if I'm wrong but thats what I think from the evidence. Gary no family anytime soon but she will come in handy As far as the dodge is concerned shes up on ebay at the moment and is up to $1700. Theres still 2 days and 20 some hours till the auction ends if anyone is interested. No reserve! Here is the link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Dodge-Coronet-CORONET-RARE-1958-DODG... | ||
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Expert Posts: 3967 Location: DFW, TX | Unleaded gas won't make an engine leak, but a 12yr old gasket will! Sounds like an intake / valve cover / timing cover gasket or oil filter seal blew and started spraying. It was likely blown all around the engine compartment by the fan. Fortuitous for you AND us. What a beauty! Mike I'd be interested if you ever decide to sell, I do love these wagons and that is a gorgeous example. | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 781 Location: Montreal, Canada | Mike, Congratulation. What a find  I am nearly as excited as you are and fully understand your feeling toward this car. I remember how I felt when I first saw my '59 Dodge wagon. Since the car appears to be original, I hope you will document as much as possible how everything is on the car. I am sure we will all appreciate (Neil?) I sure would like to see as many pictures as possible about the car. Why not make an album about her? Hope you can take photo of the engine bay, interior, dash etc. Being a station wagon guy all I can say is BRAVO, BRAVO and BRAVO!!!!! Please keep us posted. | ||
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| bad58mike |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 1150 Location: Southern California | ok, that makes more sense, thats probably what happened. She'll be running soon, I'l be pulling her guts out and having them rebuilt | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 709 Location: Poznan, Poland, Europe | So, these 58s didn't came all red&white from factory ? Seriously : I'm speachless that situations like this can still happen and build up the myth of finding classic American iron untouched.  | ||
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 Expert Posts: 3951 Location: Bama | That is cool about finding that 'burban Mike. Good luck with the sale of the Dodge too | ||
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | |||
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | |||
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| Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | This car appears to have a painted sweep and no Sportone inserts. Am I seeing this right ? I thought the Sportone inserts were standard fare on Sport Suburbans. Am I all washed up again ?  What a great find. Not too different than how we found the 56 Sierra just a couple years ago .... just quietly resting in the dark recesses of a garage. I had driven by that place hundreds, if not thousands of times - it is only 20 blocks from my place - and never once did I see the garage door open until that one day. What does the interior look like ? If it only has 13K, those seats should look very fresh. Maybe you can have it made into a Christine clone ? I hear it is a very popular thing to do these days. Making a 2 door hardtop out of it might be challenging, but there is a thread going now on some "competition" on who does these best ... Edited by Doctor DeSoto 2008-07-07 8:16 PM | ||
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| d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | |||
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| catman |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 781 Location: Montreal, Canada | You guys don't get it. Mike should Kustomize that one, paint it flat black, lower her and turn it to a psychobilly devil's machine  | ||
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| bad58mike |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 1150 Location: Southern California | hey Neil, I will post pics of the build sheets and grease pencil markings next weekend when I see her again. The inside is in good shape and all original as well, the only thing that needs reapolstured is the front bench seat. The rest are ok. That original stuff looks cool. Well as I said before she will remain original and polished up to original condition. The sportone is painted white on the body except for the front fenders. On the front fenders their is inserts on a sheet of aluminum but painted white with no texture does this sound right? She was built in Los Angeles Ca (LP2L)and is the 10,428th car off the assembly line out of 12,385 sport burbans that year. | ||
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| Doctor DeSoto |
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| FinFan |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 709 Location: Poznan, Poland, Europe | Didn't knew about the inserts being painted additional steel on a car, no matter the brand. So, with enough skills for taking on and off the clips, you could have had 2 cars in 1, slide the inserts in for Sunday, slide them off for Monday Or you could make a 3rd generation of LaFemme with palette of individually purchased inserts color keyed to owner's dress | ||
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| 1955Coronado |
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Expert Posts: 1918 Location: Hell's Outhouse - a.k.a. Buckeye, Arizona | I've seen '58 Plymouths with and without the painted inserts - more without, though. Jeebus, Mike - can't shake that find with a stick. That's one of the most untouched originals I've ever seen - and a top line (Bevy) 9 passenger grocery getter to boot. Can't wait to hear what kind of mysteries it holds. How's it fixed for options? So, in true '50's fashion, you gonna make this one Christine's hubby? You know - the one who brings home the bacon? (Grocery getter? Bacon? Get it? Well.....) | ||
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| d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | |||
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| bad58mike |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 1150 Location: Southern California | Thanks Firedome, Its in really nice shape I can't wait to get started on gettin her runnin again. | ||
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| Tail feathers |
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Member Posts: 42 | Nice car Mike.......................congrats. I bet there are plenty of finds like this your way. She's a beaut What did you tell U Haul when they asked what you were putting on the trailer??? Edited by Tail feathers 2008-07-10 8:10 PM | ||
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| bad58mike |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 1150 Location: Southern California | thanks, I told them I was putting a 58 plymouth wagon | ||
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| d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | |||
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| bad58mike |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 1150 Location: Southern California | Neil, I agree on the neighborhood, mine is better The person I censored out in the early pic was the lady who sold me the car, I did not get her permission to post a picture of her. The car was enclosed in a San Diego Garage in CA. There is some pits on the chrome but most of it srubbed off with some dish soap and a sponge. I'm working on gettin her buffed out and runnin by summer 2009, with the wedding coming and saving for a house shes on the back burner for awhile but rest assure, shes safe in my garage and will be runnin next summer. The most important thing was picking her up and bringing her home step one. | ||
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| Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | Bart_59_Dodge - 2008-07-12 8:28 AM No doubt that wagons are cool. Great find. Did FL wagons ever come with luggage racks on the roof? ******************************* Yes, luggage racks were always an option. I am quite eager to find one for our Dodge. (wagon 7-7-07 r side.jpg) Attachments ---------------- wagon 7-7-07 r side.jpg (222KB - 187 downloads) | ||
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| ronbo97 |
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Expert Posts: 4044 Location: Connecticut | Chrome58 - 2008-07-08 2:17 PM Mike, I'm green with envy ... And very happy for you. I'm Copper Glow with envy ! Although I can't be sure, I think the white-painted insert is an LA-only build feature. I know they did this on 55 Desotos. I'm also interested in what options the car has. Power windows maybe ? Since this car is LA built, it may have a data plate under the hood. | ||
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Location: Parts Unknown | ronbo97 - 2008-07-14 5:53 PM Chrome58 - 2008-07-08 2:17 PM Mike, I'm green with envy ... And very happy for you. I'm Copper Glow with envy ! Although I can't be sure, I think the white-painted insert is an LA-only build feature. I know they did this on 55 Desotos. I'm also interested in what options the car has. Power windows maybe ? Since this car is LA built, it may have a data plate under the hood. ****************************** That bronze-copper color is breathtaking. Especially with black or charcoal. Those fender color inserts were used on DeSotos at least through 1958, and were done at Detroit. I am unsure about L.A. production | ||
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