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Joe Mac
Posted 2014-02-21 7:57 PM (#428397 - in reply to #144239)
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I have another picture of "Spanky" Wayne Cox with his Regal Lancer. Enjoy



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Lancer Mike
Posted 2014-02-21 9:36 PM (#428407 - in reply to #428397)
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Thanks, Joe! That is one gorgeous Regal! Sounds like the Frostbite is on its way toward restoration.
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58wedge
Posted 2014-02-22 5:08 AM (#428432 - in reply to #428407)
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Yes it is, and it`s gonna be a keen one to talk about ,i also bought the rusty 57,enjoy
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58wedge
Posted 2014-02-22 5:14 AM (#428433 - in reply to #144239)
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have the frame like this to get all sand/steel out steel and sandblasted and then warmzinked ,waxed inside ,its56years old now and it`s gonna last another 256 years rustwise``
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Lancer Mike
Posted 2014-02-22 6:06 PM (#428500 - in reply to #428433)
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Looks like those are in the right hands, Arne! Please keep posting on the Frostbite! That 1957 convertible almost looks like nothing is left!!!
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d500neil
Posted 2014-02-22 6:09 PM (#428501 - in reply to #144239)
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That's gonna need one heckava patch-panel on that 1/4 panel, but, really, installing a complete quarter panel to the
body should be relatively easy to do, and it allows for easy restoration/preparation of the inner 1/4 panel areas, too.

There was no Broadcast Sheet found on Frostbite, behind the glove box or underneath the carpeting?








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58wedge
Posted 2014-02-23 5:06 AM (#428563 - in reply to #144239)
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No sorry ,probebly dissapered in the customicing ,the rug looked like it came from the living-room and it was heavy-duty glued to the floors,needs a total frame-off resto ,it`s ruff, like always on these years, seems like it was white w copper sweep and roof orginal,it has power-windows and i can se they been there all the time, the rear antenna holes were welded ,350 w4baroll D500??
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LD3 Greg
Posted 2014-08-27 2:08 PM (#454377 - in reply to #144239)
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When I first bought this car I was surprised that there was no gold on it at all! Even the Q panel shields had no gold on the helmet. Anyone seen any others like this?

It came with no wheel covers, so, in keeping with the rest of the car I buffed off the gold on the covers.
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d500neil
Posted 2014-08-27 3:09 PM (#454388 - in reply to #454377)
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The decklid "Dodge" nameplate was produced, for the Custom Royals (at least) in either chromed pot metal or in gold anodizing; doesn't
seem to be any pattern in whether a CR got either type.

The Regal's "spear" is clearly/"always" provided in chrome finish; not 'gold' (but Greg & I know that, from decades-ago).

Here's one of Greg's research-photos, on the spears being chrome-silver finish.

Don't seem to have a similar one, on the shields, but, here's an OEM photo with the knight's head definitely appearing to be in
gold finish.

Also, this third photo, of a weathered lance/shield, but, in the photograph, the knight's head definitely is more 'gold' colored than is
the clearly chrome-silver finish on the spear, but I have no info on the 'story' behind this third photo.

The knight's head on the spinners should be gold lacquer finish; 24K gold plating is relatively permanent, and, against
the chrome-spinner, really looks OEM (.....as compared to 'gold-plated' lances and other nameplates that we see on
various 'restored' cars).

And, here's an example of that lacquer finish, on a 58 D500 emblem, that I used to have.










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d500neil
Posted 2014-08-27 3:23 PM (#454392 - in reply to #144239)
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Heh, heh....BUSTED, Greg!

And, the grille emblem had that reddish background, too, and a gold knights-head?





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LD3 Greg
Posted 2014-08-27 11:55 PM (#454450 - in reply to #454392)
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d500neil - 2014-08-27 3:23 PM


Heh, heh....BUSTED, Greg!





OHHHH Dear,

BUSTED down to the deck!! And with my own handwriting!! RATS!! Well played Neil!

I'm heading back to the shop to do some digging ----- don't count me out on all accounts yet!!

Greg

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d500neil
Posted 2014-08-28 7:02 PM (#454570 - in reply to #144239)
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..Good job of forgery, eh what?



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Lancer Mike
Posted 2014-10-31 3:14 PM (#460693 - in reply to #454570)
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There is a fellow who has been advertising on Craigslist looking for 1957, 1958, and 1959 Dodge, De Soto, and Chrysler convertibles. This picture of a stripped-down Regal was included in his advertisement. It may be one of the Regals already in this thread, but perhaps not...

Does anyone know more about it?

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LD3 Greg
Posted 2014-11-02 1:04 AM (#460797 - in reply to #460693)
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Lancer Mike - 2014-10-31 3:14 P

Does anyone know more about it?


No I don't but if he has ALL the stainless trim it looks like a doable project. I had to make one piece of SS which I thought would be easy. It certainly was not!!!
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Chrys 68
Posted 2014-11-04 2:53 PM (#461001 - in reply to #144239)
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Probably Bo Målefors, http://www.arizona-classic.com/
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LD3 Greg
Posted 2014-11-04 11:37 PM (#461046 - in reply to #461001)
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Thanks for that link! It sounds like Bo is working on a couple of the cars we have heard about for decades!
Great news!!
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Lancer Mike
Posted 2014-11-05 5:59 PM (#461087 - in reply to #461046)
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I wondered if the craigslist advertisement I saw might be from Bo - it looked like it was centered around the state of Arizona and broadcast to surrounding regions! Unfortunately, I did not see a picture of this Regal on Bo's site. Thanks for the link, though. Good stuff!
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LD3 Greg
Posted 2014-12-17 8:55 PM (#465014 - in reply to #461087)
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In case some of you haven't seen these before.

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Joe Mac
Posted 2015-01-02 4:46 PM (#466504 - in reply to #144239)
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Greg,
These are great ads. I've never seen the two-page spread on the Regal Lancer or the acoustic-foam ad. Interesting that the acoustic-foam ad says it's available as an option across the line on Lancers; I've only seen this applied to Regal Lancers. Has anyone seen this option in another model? Thanks for sharing these. Happy New Year everyone! I hope to see many of you at Carlisle this year. I may have a surprise with me...
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Lancer Mike
Posted 2015-01-02 11:46 PM (#466530 - in reply to #466504)
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Happy New Year! I had a '58 Coronet Lancer coupe equipped with the acousti-foam headliner. It was an L.A. build. I have also seen another hardtop with the acoustic-foam headliner and I think the Dodge Main cars have this option coded into their cowl plates. Great stuff, Greg!
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soiouz
Posted 2015-03-23 9:29 PM (#473255 - in reply to #144239)
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Has this one been posted before? I have no info on it, just found the pic on the web.



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christine-lover
Posted 2015-04-17 9:22 AM (#475767 - in reply to #144239)
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Another old photo of a Regal Lancer.



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Joe Mac
Posted 2015-05-15 12:50 PM (#478358 - in reply to #144239)
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Great early 60's shot Matt. Look how plain the bug and Falcon are in comparison to the Regal Lancer. Ever wonder where a car in an old photo is today? Did it survive? Is it hidden in a barn somewhere? Is it one of the ones we see regularly on these pages?
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christine-lover
Posted 2015-05-15 1:40 PM (#478362 - in reply to #478358)
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Thanks Joe. I do wonder, especially the car in my current avatar.
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mikes2nd
Posted 2015-05-17 10:21 AM (#478559 - in reply to #144239)
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proud new owner of a Regal Lancer "parts" car no engine, no title, no interior(except for dash and two perfect sun visors!).

I posted the body tag, thanks for the info.

This thing is in bad shape. very very very bad shape so I have a 58 coronet donor car coming, it needs a fair amount of work itself but the price is right and it will actually move.

There isn't even a "hint" of a trunk drop, the gas tank was on the ground, the tack welds they put in place to move the car broke in transit so we used tie straps to hold the leaf springs up and push the car. The frame looks reasonable though, doors aren't bad. I am missing those 3 pieces of trim so I will need to make or find those

I think the back of the car sat on the ground and rotted away. You can see my trunk, wowsers...



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mikes2nd
Posted 2015-09-19 1:06 AM (#490015 - in reply to #144239)
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Well I have figured out a way to obtain the last missing piece of long trim from my Regal donor. it appears that the 57 coronet trim is curved in the reverse mode. I have a full 57 and a full 58 set of coronet trim. I even accidentally got an extra set of 57. This compares a 57 Coronet trim vs a 58 Regal lancer. there is no real curve on the Regal until you hit the very end while the 57 coronet has a longer entire curve going the wrong way. Using a 57 coronet trim will be tricky but I think the better option is use a 58 and putting two pieces together with that slight bend in the back.

I still need one front fender (C) and both rear "points" and i will have a complete set of body trim...

 



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Lancer Mike
Posted 2015-09-19 2:33 PM (#490038 - in reply to #490015)
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Nice Mike! I will look forward to more pictures as the work continues
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Posted 2015-09-19 5:10 PM (#490042 - in reply to #144239)
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Wish me luck making these...

This is my 58 Donor car.



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Posted 2015-09-19 5:22 PM (#490044 - in reply to #490042)
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mikes2nd - 2015-09-19 5:10 PM

Wish me luck making these...

This is my 58 Donor car.



You probably could get a 58 Savoy sportone end tip moulding to work.



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mikes2nd
Posted 2015-09-30 11:05 AM (#491023 - in reply to #144239)
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I think I found a guy who can make them actually from stainless, I have the "underlying" connection piece. I may make it out of clay and mold and cast it if this guy is too expensive.

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Posted 2015-09-30 3:14 PM (#491041 - in reply to #491023)
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That part looks really similar to the front joiner trim on a 1960 Windsor or Saratoga with the optional color sweep. Take a look at mine. It's probably longer but could be cut down to fit if the widths are the same, and it would be relatively easy to find one of these pieces.



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Lancer Mike
Posted 2015-10-03 1:29 PM (#491294 - in reply to #491041)
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Better add the images of the Regal currently for sale on craigslist!



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Posted 2015-10-03 5:03 PM (#491310 - in reply to #144239)
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Yeah I talked to him about it. Its a complete car.
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Posted 2015-10-03 5:06 PM (#491311 - in reply to #491041)
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imopar380 - 2015-09-30 3:14 PM That part looks really similar to the front joiner trim on a 1960 Windsor or Saratoga with the optional color sweep. Take a look at mine. It's probably longer but could be cut down to fit if the widths are the same, and it would be relatively easy to find one of these pieces.

Eh its not a balanced piece. Wouldnt work.

 

 

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Posted 2016-11-11 2:11 PM (#525881 - in reply to #347391)
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riclemenza - 2012-11-16 4:49 PM

Ok Guys, I've been doing some homework. I am sculpting and molding a reproduction trunk mat to place back into the car.(58 Regal Lancer) It will require the time to set up the sculpture and the time to make a fiberglass mold from the sculpture. Then, I will take the fiberglass mold to NC to have it sprayed with a flexible black urethane rubberized coating. The urethane coating is much more expensive than I anticipated but there is no other alternative that I know of. I am probably going to do this whether or not anyone else wants a trunk mat. I will have well over $2000 of travel, time and materials in the first mat. If I leave the fiberglass mold with the coating place, they could make additional mats to be drop shipped for a rough estimate of $350 to $400 each. They may become cheaper if a large quantity of mats are made. These mats will look very much like the originals. Before I go off the deep end I would like to have some idea concerning the demand for the product. Let me know if you are definitely interested. Either post comments (pro or con) or send me an email. I can probably have the mold ready by the New Year.




What ever happened on this project for the repro mats??

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mikes2nd
Posted 2017-02-26 9:05 PM (#534760 - in reply to #144239)
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got lucky and a guy put the 1 of the 4 emblems I was missing one ebay... wow...





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Posted 2017-02-26 9:43 PM (#534769 - in reply to #144239)
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Nice another piece of the puzzle,That 1/2 the fun .
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Posted 2017-05-31 10:04 PM (#541305 - in reply to #144239)
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The three different lancer colors on this brochure seem to indicate that they were colored differently depending on which color scheme you chose for the car. If that isn't what it signifies, what does it mean? Anyone have a color version of this ad?

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Lancer Mike
Posted 2017-06-01 4:49 PM (#541353 - in reply to #491294)
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That looks like the poster ad. I think I have a color copy, but I don't think it fits on my scanner.

The only color combinations available for the Regal were

5XSX - copper with eggshell fins and roof
5SXS - eggshell with copper fins and roof
5ASA - copper with black fins and roof
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mikes2nd
Posted 2017-06-06 11:16 PM (#541662 - in reply to #144239)
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any have a Chrysler historical report for a Regal Lancer? What does it show?
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springsweptwing
Posted 2017-06-07 7:00 AM (#541677 - in reply to #541662)
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Copy of build card, but FCA to busy to do a breakdown on it , after waiting nearly 2 months to get it? They sent a letter just giving the original dealer .
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Lancer Mike
Posted 2017-06-07 1:24 PM (#541708 - in reply to #541677)
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This one appears on page 6 of this thread, but it is for sale again. $38,800 buy-it-now in CA

http://www.ebay.com/itm/172717566765?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&fromMakeTrack=true

The Regal Lancer model was added in February and only available as a two-door hardtop with special colors, exterior trim and interior. Four color combinations where available: bronze with white trim, bronze with black trim, black with bronze trim, and white with bronze trim. It featured special nameplates at the front of the side spear trim and heavy eyebrow trim. Inside, Regal Lancers got their own interior with unique trim and door panels featuring molded armrests. A special Acousti-Foam headliner with chrome bows and roof rails was a Regal Lancer exclusive, as was the bronze instrument panel with textured aluminum inserts. The standard engine offered for Regal Lancers was the 350 cubic inch displacement "Super Red Ram" V8. Optional engine choices were the 361 cubic inch displacement D-500 and Super D-500 iterations. Only 1,163 were produced. The car is in awesome original shape with a full restoration on the interior. The exterior has about 70% original paint. This is a very rare model. It's a D500 with the single four barrel 361 engine. Options are front bumper teeth rear exhaust tips power steering. It's been a blast to drive but I just have to many cars. Please ask questions is you have any and bid to win. Inquiry about the buy it now price. I can assist with overseas shipping if needed. Harrison 760 898 8434





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springsweptwing
Posted 2017-06-07 2:28 PM (#541713 - in reply to #541708)
Subject: Re: 1958 Regal Lancer



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Looks a nice original car, this is the one with the White centre seat bolsters, headliner looks like it's been replaced with standard cardboard panels?
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Lancer Mike
Posted 2017-06-07 5:18 PM (#541726 - in reply to #541713)
Subject: Re: 1958 Regal Lancer



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It definitely has the white center bolsters, it could only be the same car.
The headliner (from previous images) does look like flat board, perhaps not even perforated - I guess they could have stripped the acusti-foam off and repainted the board.
From what I remember, the board underneath the acusti-foam headliners is not perforated.
In the earlier images, there are no front bumper spuds and no D500 emblem on the trunk. Those must have been added along the way.
It would be interesting to see if this is actually a D500 car. The air cleaner what looks like under-coating on it, and it had that the last time it sold.
It's a neat-looking car!

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christine-lover
Posted 2017-06-07 5:54 PM (#541732 - in reply to #541726)
Subject: Re: 1958 Regal Lancer



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Looking at certain indicators, such as interior mirror, battery hold down, seat buttons, etc., it appears to be the same car that's in page 6.

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springsweptwing
Posted 2017-06-25 10:20 AM (#542831 - in reply to #541732)
Subject: Re: 1958 Regal Lancer



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springsweptwing
Posted 2017-06-25 10:28 AM (#542832 - in reply to #542831)
Subject: Re: 1958 Regal Lancer



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springsweptwing
Posted 2017-06-25 10:41 AM (#542835 - in reply to #542831)
Subject: Re: 1958 Regal Lancer



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Mary says she may be able to get the missing trims made, this is the only thing that would put off buyers as they would be near impossible to find a pair, but looking at the car and that steering wheel the car does look a good example to restore , there are a few incorrect parts on the engine and the seats need trimming, no pictures of headliner though,

If anyone buys this and is having Gary do the seats let me know as I need mine doing also,




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Powerflite
Posted 2017-06-25 12:02 PM (#542840 - in reply to #144239)
Subject: Re: 1958 Regal Lancer



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Do you know what she is asking for it? That missing 1958, big block only air cleaner isn't real easy to find either, but I guess you could go to dual quads instead.

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springsweptwing
Posted 2017-06-25 12:29 PM (#542842 - in reply to #542840)
Subject: Re: 1958 Regal Lancer



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Powerflite - 2017-06-25 5:02 PM

Do you know what she is asking for it? That missing 1958, big block only air cleaner isn't real easy to find either, but I guess you could go to dual quads instead.



Hi Nathan,

No and I don't think Mary does, I gave it a 10 - 15K price on Facebook, due to the missing parts, all down to looking at car and condition really, if it had the missing trims would have been in the 20K spot , don't know if it's a D500 but looks to be similar spec to mine with no bumper spuds or power seats/ windows, seats will need recovering and that's 2K of Gary if he's doing them anymore, not replied back to me on mine?

But at end of day they rarely come up for sale in this condition and as the other on eBay was a scam , this and nick's are the only ones I have seen for sale that look reasonably restorable since Frostbite, which I think went for around 10K in the end?

I have been asking around £12k for mine but not had much interest?

Paul.
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