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Shipping Order - 1211 01050
where 1211 is scheduled build date : December 11, 1957
Body Number - 332
3 - Make - Dodge
3 - Series -
2 - Body Style - 2-door hardtop
Paint - 1XXX
1 - Paint Style - Monotone
X - Roof Colour - Eggshell White
X - Lower Colour - Eggshell White
X - Insert Colour - Eggshell White
Trim - 144 - Interior Trim
14 : Syle/Upholstery -
4 : Colour -
Route - 625 - Method of delivery to dealer - ??
Trans. - 292 - Powerflite automatic
Acc Group - 314 : Accessory Group 4 - ??
Acc Group - 316 : Accessory Group 6 - ??
Radio 44 - 1 : 441 - Pushbutton radio with antenna
Solex 46 - 5 : 465 - Tinted windshield
Tires 53 - 1 : 531 - 7.50x14 - 4-ply, whitewall
Tires 54 - 1 : 541 -
Axle Ratio 55 - 3 : 553 - 3.3:1
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Location: bishop, ca | Dan, to expand a little, on Bill's information, You have the V/8 model Coronet 2-dr hardtop, which happens to have
an all black dash panel ("black Coro").
The engine would be the "Red Ram" 325 Poly head, with a 2-bbl carb and single exhaust, rated at 252 HP,
with a 9:1 compression ratio (up from 8.5:1 in 1957).
It's interior trim "144" I haven't previously seen, and being an all white car, it could have every color combination available to it, in it.
What colors are your interior?
Your car was delivered to its selling dealer by Truck.
As far as your Tinted glass is concerned, was ONLY your windshield tinted, but with no upper shading, and are the side and back glass panels clear?
Your car has the Deluxe Appearance Group (2-tone steering wheel, SPINNER hubcaps, stone shields, and a clock), and the Safety Group (power steering and brakes, padded dash panel, and rear license plate insert---how the latter qualifies as being a 'safety' item: I dunno!)
Your car is also coded to have the pushbutton radio.
I was going to disagree with Bill, on your car's tires being white walls, but, a tire code of "1-0" would be blackwalls,
and your car has "1-1" , so it did get the white walls, to go along with your 'Spinners' !
SO: what colors is/are your car's interior????
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| Awesome info, It has clear side and rear windows. The dash is black, seats are black sides red on top, red and black door panels with silver inserts, white headliner and sunvisors. Car has been painted a couple of times but where I have sanded on it warrants an argument that it was white with black fins and trunk area. I realize the broadcast sheet doesn't support it but there is no white under the black in this area of the car. I noticed it had a clock and wondered if that was on option. Thanks for all the info. |
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Location: bishop, ca | Thank you, Dan; now, is your car's windshield merely tinted, or is it shaded across its top, and tinted?
So, 144 is the coding for a Coro with the black and red interior motif.
Its headliner should be pre-printed masonite-type panels, with gold "Endless Loop' styling-lines.
That's a very attractive car.
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| Yea, you are correct about the headliner. The windsheild is tinted without the dark tint on the top of it. Thanks for all your help. Dan |
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Location: bishop, ca | Dan, if you want to appeal to a higher authority, you should buy a copy of your car's IBM Build card-copy, as discussed in a
'Sticky' at the top of this message board.
If THAT comes-back stating that your car's exterior color(s) were "1xxx" , then, your car "was" originally painted in all white.
The fact that it might have been a single color indicates that the first or second, owner, wanted to jazz-up the exterior, and
did have it get repainted with the black, on the fins and trunk---actually, the 58 2-tone motif would have had the black
be applied on the ROOF, as well as on the trunk and fins.
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Location: bishop, ca | Yeah, it will: it'll give you your car's official Birthday, and will confirm its engine number, and key codes.
It will also give you your car's Dealer coding, and the Corp's cover-letter will tell you the I.D. of the selling dealership.
It's a neat thing to have, and not many people have both the Broadcast Sheet and the IMB card-copy (and, that
nice cover-letter, from the Historical Society.
You can make copies of those three items and frame and display them, on a wall, and/or with your car at a Show.
They're a good selling-point, too, on the car.
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Location: bishop, ca | Dan , I think that I've found a 58 Coro with your car's interior motif.
Sent a couple pics for Sir Clive to post here.
Didn't know that this Coro Club Coupe (2-dr sedan) had your "144" interior coding. I've got a lot
of photos of this car, which probably is the nicest/most-original 1958 Dodge on the planet.
The fact that it had 20K miles, a 6-banger with manual steering and brakes, no radio (but, does have a heater!) and was owned by a small town spinster and was garaged, probably helped in its preservation!
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Location: bishop, ca | Mike (and Dan); help me, here: the 1958 Custom Coronet interiors had front-and-rear notched seat backs (which dan
obviously has, here, on the (front) seat back(s).
However, the standard-style Coronet interior trim panels look like Dan's car , and, the Coronet convertibles, also, did not have the
"Custom" interior package available on them (I've got a photo of one which has the same trim-panel style appearance as Dan's car).
So: is Dan's upholstery in a Custom Coronet style, or in the standard-style? If the car has a standard-Coronet interior, I wonder
how it received notched seat back(s)?
The 1958 Custom Coronet interior motif consisted of notched seat backs, a foam front seat (big deal--non padded was standard
on Coronet!), color-coordinated carpeting (black, anyway, on Dan's interior; otherwize: it was [black-] rubber floor mats), and/but,
with STYLIZED vinyl bolsters (meaning heat- embossed pleats in the center-areas of the seats.
I'm wondering how/why Dan's car has the notched seat backs (with a standard Coronet upholstery/trim motif?)
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Location: bishop, ca | I just sent Clive a couple photos which are ones of my earliest-collection, from the early-mid 80's.
They'll show a 58 Coro convertible, in MT-area(?) which, had been re-painted brown(!) and which had a Spring Special
rear license plate "escutcheon" installed (also probably incorrect).
Anyway, the second photo shows its interior scheme, which is the same as Dan's.
Coronet convertibles did not receive the Custom Coronet interiors, so, I believe that Dan's car, too, does not
have the Custom Coronet interior, based upon the appearance of the trim panels.
That convertible had also received a 'customization' of its seat upholstery, at some point in its life.
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I just sent Clive a couple photos which are ones of my earliest-collection, from the early-mid 80's.
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Location: The Mile High City | It is definitely the "deluxe" Coronet interior, rather than the standard interior. The deluxe Coronet interior featured the notch back seats and a distinctive dip in the silver band in the door panels. Also, the deluxe Coronet interiors received the fancier patterned fabrics. The standard Coronet interior had the straight level seats, a straight silver band in the door and the basic tweed fabrics. For the hardtops, I think that the standard Coronets came with the accoustifoam headliner while the deluxe interiors had the hardboard with the endless loop print.
Those earlier pictures of the club sedan show the standard interior very well. Note that the silver in the door panel is not full length and is straight across. Also, the standard interior had the heat sealed horizontal pattern while the deluxe interior had the four embossed squares.
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Location: bishop, ca | I just sent Clive a couple pics from the 1958 Ross Roy Data Book, which discusses the Coronet Custom
interior motif as being (same as for 1957 Dodge) : N/A on convertibles.
The illustration will show notched seat backs on the Coro convertibles, but I don't recognize the upholstery
pattern that is displayed.
The convertible cloth/vinyl looks to be same as for the wagons, which also is the same (HD material) as installed in the 57 models.
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I just sent Clive a couple pics from the 1958 Ross Roy Data Book, which discusses the Coronet Custom
interior motif as being (same as for 1957 Dodge) : N/A on convertibles.
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Location: The Mile High City | Dan, I don't think there is anything unusual about your seat pattern. Neil, that is a good illustration from the data book: Dan's car has the custom interior that matches the illustrations from the Coronet convertible coupe. The club sedan illustration shows the basic interior and that was available in the hard tops too.
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Location: bishop, ca | Super Dan: what 'we' need to do is see some close up photos of your car's upholstery cloth.
That will confirm whether is has the Custom Coronet "Frost Web" jacquard fabric (looks like it does have
that material), or whether it has the standard "Boucle Tweed" fabric.
BTW, I overlooked sending Clive a pic of the Ross Roy Data Book's illustration of the Coro 2-dr HT ("Lancer")
seat, which shows it to be in the straight-backed style (same as for 1957 Coro) ; so, your car, with the
notched seat backs, SHOULD be a Custom Coronet seat style.
For 1958, the Custom-Coronet HARDTOPS may not have had 'special-trimmed' door and quarter trim-panels, with
extra Mylar-silver appliques being applied to them. This would make sense, as your car's trim panels
appear identical to a convertible, which did NOT have the (less durable) Custom Coronet upholstery installed
on them, but, your car DOES have the notched seat backs, and what appears to be "Frost Web" (??) upholstery
cloth installed.
So, I will note my file records to indicate that your car's "TRM" code: 144, may be for red/black Custom Coronet
interior, in a 2-dr HT.
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Location: bishop, ca | Yeah, Mike; I agree with your second paragraph, but, Dan's upholstery-appearance & notched seat backs indicate
that it might be a Custom Coro, after-all.
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Yeah, Mike; I agree with your second paragraph, but, Dan's upholstery-appearance & notched seat backs indicate
that it might be a Custom Coro, after-all.
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Location: The Mile High City | Absolutely no question it is the custom interior with the frosted lace pattern. Without any doubt. Expected seats match expected fabric, match expected door panels. All is as it should be. Did the build sheet say it came equipped with the standard interior? What is the issue here? |
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Location: bishop, ca | That DEFINITELY looks like a "Frost Web" upholstery style, to me, DAN!
You do have the Custom Coronet interior option,
I'm gonna try to have Clive post a couple pics of a 1958 Coronet 2-dr Club Coupe, which has the standard straight-backed
seats, with what would appear to be OEM door and quarter trim panels; there actually is quite a bit of Mylar applique
put onto them, huh?
Their seat upholstery is obviously aftermarket coverings, but, the trim panels look to be standard Coro material.
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I'm gonna try to have Clive post a couple pics of a 1958 Coronet 2-dr Club Coupe,
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Location: bishop, ca | The issue, Mike, was Dan's car's TRM coding of "144", which I had not previously seen, in my research.
EG: in 1957, the TRM codings were a LOT more logical; the standard Coro TRM's were in a "1xx" series, and the
Custom Coros had a "2xx" series.
In 1958, the TRM codes were all in the "1xx" series for standard and Custom Coronet motifs.
I just wanted to make certain what the "144" TRM confirmed: it is, indeed, the red/black Custom Coronet style.
Dan, you should definitely have your car's very-rare interior be replicated when you restore this car.
SMS, in Portland, should make/have all of the cloth/vinyl/beading that your car will need.
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Location: bishop, ca | Right; the Ross Roy only shows the standard straight-backed seats, but 'mentions' the Custom Coronet seats/upholstery.
I'll ask Clive to post one more pic, which lists all the amenities that the 1958 Custom Coronet has on it, including
carpeting.
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Right; the Ross Roy only shows the standard straight-backed seats, but 'mentions' the Custom Coronet seats/upholstery.
I'll ask Clive to post one more pic, which lists all the amenities that the 1958 Custom Coronet has on it, including
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Location: bishop, ca | Dan, your one interior-view definitely shows clear side glass, but, I am confused about window option #5 (like
your car has) compared to other cars that I've recorded, having #6 window option.
I had thought that #6 was tinted-only windshield, but if you could post a good image of your car's tinted-only
windshield, I'll be fairly certain that #6 option is actually tinted-AND-shaded, and will change my file notes.
Actually, there is some logic in having #5 be tinted-only, with #6 being tinted-and-shaded windshield, and #7 being
tinted-and-shaded, but also WITH tinted side-and-back glass.
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Location: bishop, ca | Ah, boy: just noticed that the above 1958 2-dr Club Coupe has differently styled door panels from the World-Class
original-condition, red-and-black interior that Clive posted, above here....neither car was a Custom Coronet, as both
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Location: bishop, ca | Mike; I agree; the seat covers appear to be re-done, but, the seat backs/structure probably is OEM, and straight-backed,
indicating that the interior is standard Coronet, not Custom Coro.
Dan; in addition to restoring the appearance of your car's OEM interior, you will maximise the car's market (and insurance)
value by installing the correct interior.
I respectfully disagree with Mike, about your car's red/black Custom Coronet interior motif being 'not particularly significant.'
It is rare ; I have not previously seen a 1958 (----a few-built recession year) Coronet 2-dr HT with the red/black Custom
Coronet motif.
A white car (easist color to maintain, and looks good with a clear coat, to increase its color-depth) with a red interior is very
distinctive car.
You have a very "worthy" restoration prospect, there.
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Location: The Mile High City | Point well taken. For my taste, I certainly prefer an original interior or a very close replica of the original interior. If I can't do either of those, I would rather have as much OEM as I can get, so it could be converted to OEM over time as funds permit. I do not know if it is like a kitchen remodel where you can't lose...the better it is, the more the house is worth. For an interior's relationship to the value of the car, I suspect that it may be interdependent with several different factors like make, body style, year, color, etc. If you are dealing with a four door sedan, these choices get very difficult!
I guess my thought was that in it's current condition, the interior detracts from the value and enjoyment of the car - so it has to be replaced. Unlike the interior of a Regal Lancer or a 300D convertible, if you go a little outside the OEM specifications, you have not painted a moustache on the Mona Lisa or anything like that. In a nutshell, if you fix-up the interior at all, good - if you go OEM, great!
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Location: The Mile High City | I believe I have seen another car with that exact interior. It was a black two-door hardtop here in the Denver area. Let me see if I can dig out a photo.
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Location: bishop, ca | OK, HERE'S a trivia question for y'all : at first I thought that those small "squares" on the upper seat backs were some
kind of weird vinyl patching.
But, from the Ross Roy illustrations, those 'squares' either held some kind of decorative attachment (now gone, from
ALL the seats??) or, those squares WERE some sort of adornment.
See, Mike, if you HAD [guilt-trip] gotten some detailed interior photos of that black car, perhaps we'd have the answer to
this question....
That black car, with its OEM single exhaust pipe, appears to have had its standard 325 2-bbl engine installed.
Notice how well it stands, on its suspension? Talk about the SHAPE of (Forward) motion!!!! That compound curved windshhield
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Location: The Mile High City | Easy, breezy - Neil! There was no adornment, as with the Custom Royal's nifty little trapezoid attachments. These were just plain heat-sealed square patterns to break up the vast expanse of vinyl on the seat back. No guilt trip necessary, I already KNOW the answer to that one!  |
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