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sermey |
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Expert Posts: 1208 Location: SWITZERLAND | Bill, you seems to be very familiar with these Broadcast Sheets! Could you comment the details of my car according the Car Production Broadcast. - SERGE - (2008-11-15 Production Broadcast 0569 copy.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 2008-11-15 Production Broadcast 0569 copy.jpg (69KB - 147 downloads) | ||
d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | Well, if I might jump-in here: that is one nicely loaded convertible, Serge! An all-white with white top and black-and-white POWER swivel seat interior, with black dash panel Custom Royal, built o.o.a. July 7th (maybe actually built on 7/4/59; the IBM card will confirm its official birthday). It's got the Heater Group options (heater, B-U lights, LT O.S. mirror, & I/S glare=-pruf mirror), Convenience Group (foam RR seat, V/speed wipers, Jiffy Jet, and handbrake, map, glove box, & trunk lights, and vanity mirror). Also its got the Deluxe Appearance Group (2-tone S/wheel, SPINNERS, stone shields, and clock)--but, wait; there's MORE: the Safety Group ( P/steering & brakes, padded dash and visors, and Speed-warning speedo-device!). Your car should have that back-of fin chrome insert, but not the 1/4 panel "gills". No dual antennae, or power windows, however. Its tires were five (including spare tire) 8.00x14" Rayon-cord white walls; axle ratio was 3.31: 1 "high performance" gearset (2.93:1 "Economy" was standard ratio on CRL's). Also, your car should not have that hood ornament, either. It appears that your car's dealership thought so highly of this car (maybe a special-order??) that it went & GOT the car, itself, rather than wait to have the factory ship it to them ! Edited by d500neil 2008-11-28 5:34 PM | ||
sermey |
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Expert Posts: 1208 Location: SWITZERLAND | Thank you Neil for your inquiry regarding my Convertible. When I purchased it 15 Years ago it was already loaded with the Dual Antennas, the Hood Ornament and was bi-colored Dark-Blue/White. Then I added many Original Options as listed in my Specs. Here a Copy of the Original Sheet found under the Dashboard. Now still restoring it in Photoshop 1200 dpi (can see when compare with Monitor-Pic above, even the Signature has been centered). Could match this sheet to any given numbers as another Original, but too nice to be Original! Edited by sermey 2008-11-30 3:26 PM (2008-11-10 Car Production Broadcast BW.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 2008-11-10 Car Production Broadcast BW.jpg (81KB - 164 downloads) | ||
d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | As I wrote to Serge, that "MPL" on the Special Instructions, has me stumped. | ||
Lancer Mike |
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Location: The Mile High City | As requested, Neil: (1b9d_3.JPG) Attachments ---------------- 1b9d_3.JPG (51KB - 153 downloads) | ||
d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | ...no picture, there, Mike. I did go research the 1958 Ross Roy data book, and find that "dual exhausts (with deflectors)" WERE optionally available on the 2-bbl Coro and the 4-bbl Royal, and station wagon V/8 engine cars, which, otherwize, were only available with a SINGLE exhaust system. Only the CRL's, both convertibles (that would include the 2-bbl V/8 Coro), and the Custom Sierra wagon came with standard dual exhausts in 1958!!!! Everybody else had to have been informed by the dealership (right...!) that the second tail pipe was only optionally-available, or else the owner had to have the dealership or some private facility retrofit the second exhaust pipe onto the car. Also, in 1958, there was NO "Power Pack" option, per se, where a Coro might have got a 4-bbl carb, along with the optional second tail pipe. The only carb/engine option on the Coros was the D500 engines. Same for ALL the other models; only the standard-engine, or the D500 engine-packages were available. Technically, the optionally-available second tail pipe, on a Royal or a Suburban/Sierra wagon (which all came with the 4-bbl carb, standard) WOULD constitute the completion of a "Power Pack" (4-bbl carb & dual exhausts) group, but, Dodge did not refer to the 4-bbl/dual exhausts as being a "Power Pack" (option), in 1958. Dodge did say, about the single tail pipe: "...is standard on all other [mentioned, above] models. Each cylinder has its own exhaust port and each bank of cylinders has its own manifold pipe [coming off of an exhaust header]. The two manifold pipes join to enter the extra large [ok...] main exhaust pipe [no diameter provided]. Both systems [dual/single] use the highly efficient muffler as shown at right [x-ray view provided]." IF, both the single and dual exhaust pipe sytems used the same muffler, then, the "extra large" single exhaust pipe was the same diameter as either of the dual exhaust pipes (same inflow/ outflow orifice diameters) , but, maybe-not; there might have been a unique single-pipe muffler, with "extra-large" pipe-openings, which happened to have the same internal configuration as the dual- muffs had. Edited by d500neil 2008-12-04 5:13 PM | ||
Lancer Mike |
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Location: The Mile High City | Let's try it again. (1b9d_3.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 1b9d_3.jpg (132KB - 148 downloads) | ||
La tortuga |
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Regular Posts: 58 | Wooowait a minute thats my back seat, whats going on! Just kidding. | ||
d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | Those 'squares' are molded-in features, to resemble 'buttons', as appear on the other 58 Dodge interiors. At some late-point, Dodge apparently decided not to have fluted vinyl "bolsters" on the Custom Coronet interiors, but, instead, just to have the upholstery be installed in the center-sections of the seats. | ||
sparky7 |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 636 | Neil, the 58 Dodge wagons had their own sub-set of rules, when it comes to the power train. The standard engine on all wagons was the B 350 with the Carter 4V and dual exhausts. The rear was a 3.15, which may be the same as the 3.18, but nevertheless is stamped as a 3.15. The only other available engines were the 361 4V or the 361 2X4V. I've never seen photos of original examples of either of those 361's on a 58 Dodge wagon. But even an otherwise stripped 2 door Dodge Suburban came with the B 350/4V. I bet you could go fast in that car, with the Super D500 engine and a 3-on-the-tree. Sparky | ||
Lancer Mike |
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Location: The Mile High City | I agree - I would be surprised if you could get a 350 with a single exhaust system from the factory. | ||
Lancer Mike |
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Location: The Mile High City | Here you go, Sparky - this one was on eBay a few years ago... (red and black D500 1.jpg) (red and black D500 4.jpg) (red and black D500 5.jpg) (red and black D500 6.jpg) Attachments ---------------- red and black D500 1.jpg (75KB - 171 downloads) red and black D500 4.jpg (74KB - 137 downloads) red and black D500 5.jpg (74KB - 150 downloads) red and black D500 6.jpg (54KB - 141 downloads) | ||
sparky7 |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 636 | Hey thanks Mike! You can always depend on someone here having the right photo. I wonder if the valve covers on the 361's were silver from the factory. Sparky | ||
Lancer Mike |
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Location: The Mile High City | That's my understanding, Sparky. There always seems to be a question out there about some of them being painted a copper color. I think the save bet is silver. | ||
d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | Chrysler-Silver is the only color, for the entire engine, except for the aircleaner--black for a 2 or 4-bbl carb, but, Chrysler-Gold if it's the Super D500 model. No fancy "D500" decals or appliques for the valve covers, either. | ||
d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | Sparky, I'm not certain about the rear end ratios on the wagons, but, the factory literature is pretty clear that ONLY the Custom Sierra wagons got a dual exhaust system, standard. If you have seen a Sierra or Suburban wagon with dual exhausts, the second pipe was either a factory option, or an owner add-on. | ||
sparky7 |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 636 | Neil, after looking over my wagon pamphlet I see you are right about the dual pipes. NOT standard equip. I also have to correct myself on the 3.15 rear, which was standard with the TF, but a 3.54 was put behind the manual transmission on the wagons. Also, the TF was standard with both the D-500 engines, so I guess my imaginary Suburban with the dual quads and column shift would have been strictly special order, if I could get it at all! Sparky | ||
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