The Forward Look Network
The Forward Look Network
Search | Statistics | User Listing Forums | Chat | eBay | Calendars | Albums | Skins | Language
You are logged in as a guest. ( logon | register )

'58 FOUR door Belvie RAGTOP?
Jump to page : 1
Now viewing page 1 [50 messages per page]
View previous thread :: View next thread
   Forward Look NON-Technical Discussions -> 1955-1961 Forward Look MoPar General DiscussionMessage format
 
forwardlookparts
Posted 2008-12-03 4:41 PM (#154210)
Subject: '58 FOUR door Belvie RAGTOP?



Expert

Posts: 2721
2000500100100
Location: Minneapolis
Just received my Sep-Oct 2008 Plymouth Bulletin. Yeah, they are always a little behind, but I dont care; it is THE best car magazine of ANY auto club and they have the awards to prove it.

Anyway, this is an article written by our very own Jim Benjaminson who is a regular contributor, longtime member and membership secretary and treasurer of the Plymouth Owner's Club. It is about a '58 Belvie ragtop that is down under and, while it is not factory, there is a lot of mystery surrounding this vehicle. This is very interesting and has nice color photos accompanying the two-page article. An amazing and great-looking Belvedere!

Naturally, you TRUE Plymouth guys will see this article as you are already members of the POC! Please dont ask to have any of it reproduced unless you want to get permission from the club or Jim beforehand.

Top of the page Bottom of the page
345 DeSoto
Posted 2008-12-03 5:36 PM (#154223 - in reply to #154210)
Subject: Re: '58 FOUR door Belvie RAGTOP?



Expert

Posts: 1302
1000100100100
Location: Skaneateles,NY(summer)/Port St.Lucie,FL(winter)
Check out the 55 DeSoto 4 dr convertible...



(MVC-013F.JPG)



Attachments
----------------
Attachments MVC-013F.JPG (57KB - 90 downloads)
Top of the page Bottom of the page
forwardlookparts
Posted 2008-12-03 5:41 PM (#154225 - in reply to #154210)
Subject: Re: '58 FOUR door Belvie RAGTOP?



Expert

Posts: 2721
2000500100100
Location: Minneapolis
Very cool, thanks for posting Tony.
Top of the page Bottom of the page
suburban61
Posted 2008-12-03 6:22 PM (#154227 - in reply to #154210)
Subject: Re: '58 FOUR door Belvie RAGTOP?



Expert

Posts: 1480
1000100100100100252525
Location: Australia
hmmmm.... what colour is it? and what state is it in? adriana
Top of the page Bottom of the page
forwardlookparts
Posted 2008-12-03 7:08 PM (#154238 - in reply to #154210)
Subject: Re: '58 FOUR door Belvie RAGTOP?



Expert

Posts: 2721
2000500100100
Location: Minneapolis
Down under, Australia. It is the classic Fury colors, cream with gold sport tone inserts.
Top of the page Bottom of the page
suburban61
Posted 2008-12-03 9:32 PM (#154259 - in reply to #154210)
Subject: Re: '58 FOUR door Belvie RAGTOP?



Expert

Posts: 1480
1000100100100100252525
Location: Australia
yes i got that you meant australia when you said 'down under' but did it mention which state it resides in???? adriana
Top of the page Bottom of the page
forwardlookparts
Posted 2008-12-03 9:44 PM (#154261 - in reply to #154210)
Subject: Re: '58 FOUR door Belvie RAGTOP?



Expert

Posts: 2721
2000500100100
Location: Minneapolis
HA! Sorry, I am so used to provinces and I forgot youre from there! The article didnt say.

Edited by forwardlookparts 2008-12-04 1:09 AM
Top of the page Bottom of the page
anth61
Posted 2008-12-04 12:07 AM (#154275 - in reply to #154261)
Subject: Re: '58 FOUR door Belvie RAGTOP?



Veteran

Posts: 125
10025
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Is this the vehicle in question. This particular car was a pearl pink/white few years back. It lives here in Melbourne, Australia.



(IMGP3065.JPG)



Attachments
----------------
Attachments IMGP3065.JPG (135KB - 94 downloads)
Top of the page Bottom of the page
badboykurza
Posted 2008-12-04 12:09 AM (#154276 - in reply to #154210)
Subject: Re: '58 FOUR door Belvie RAGTOP?



Veteran

Posts: 143
10025
Location: Australia
Hey anth! man that is a beauty
Top of the page Bottom of the page
forwardlookparts
Posted 2008-12-04 1:10 AM (#154279 - in reply to #154210)
Subject: Re: '58 FOUR door Belvie RAGTOP?



Expert

Posts: 2721
2000500100100
Location: Minneapolis
Yes, thats it! Whatta beaut! Have you personally seen it?
Top of the page Bottom of the page
badboykurza
Posted 2008-12-04 1:35 AM (#154281 - in reply to #154210)
Subject: Re: '58 FOUR door Belvie RAGTOP?



Veteran

Posts: 143
10025
Location: Australia
looks like anths car next to it
Top of the page Bottom of the page
1955Coronado
Posted 2008-12-04 1:39 AM (#154282 - in reply to #154210)
Subject: Re: '58 FOUR door Belvie RAGTOP?



Expert

Posts: 1918
1000500100100100100
Location: Hell's Outhouse - a.k.a. Buckeye, Arizona
Now, is the top now a bolt-on job, or has it a real ragtop?

Also, anyone else notice the RHD?

Edited by 1955Coronado 2008-12-04 1:40 AM
Top of the page Bottom of the page
badboykurza
Posted 2008-12-04 2:34 AM (#154293 - in reply to #154210)
Subject: Re: '58 FOUR door Belvie RAGTOP?



Veteran

Posts: 143
10025
Location: Australia
id say it was an australian release with the dodge dash
Top of the page Bottom of the page
anth61
Posted 2008-12-04 3:51 AM (#154294 - in reply to #154293)
Subject: Re: '58 FOUR door Belvie RAGTOP?



Veteran

Posts: 125
10025
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Yes, this was an Aussie delivered 4 dr hardtop. Dont know much about who and when it was converted but I first saw this car in the early 90's when it was up for sale and was a ragtop then. The current owner has only had it for a few years and is wanting to sell. But yes, its a neat cruiser and definatly turns heads. The owner approached me at a local Chrysler display day and mentioned he had a 58 convertible but soon to realise which car it actually was. I always wondered what happened to this car and has now re-surfaced in good and running condition which is good to see.

Edited by anth61 2008-12-04 4:00 AM




(IMGP3069.JPG)



Attachments
----------------
Attachments IMGP3069.JPG (91KB - 96 downloads)
Top of the page Bottom of the page
badboykurza
Posted 2008-12-04 4:10 AM (#154295 - in reply to #154210)
Subject: Re: '58 FOUR door Belvie RAGTOP?



Veteran

Posts: 143
10025
Location: Australia
Whats he want for it anth?
Top of the page Bottom of the page
anth61
Posted 2008-12-04 4:11 AM (#154296 - in reply to #154295)
Subject: Re: '58 FOUR door Belvie RAGTOP?



Veteran

Posts: 125
10025
Location: Melbourne, Australia
not sure but can find out if you like....Anth
Top of the page Bottom of the page
fury61
Posted 2008-12-04 4:52 AM (#154298 - in reply to #154296)
Subject: Re: '58 FOUR door Belvie RAGTOP?



Regular

Posts: 89
252525
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Jeez I remember this car, my father and I took it for a spin in the late eighties after seeing it on the side of the road with a for sale board on it, dad knew the then owner, as he was in the Chrysler Club that my Dad was a member of, The car was painted in a pearl pink, but had fadded very badly due to being left out in the aussie sunshine! I have some great pics of this unit back in the day at a number of shows/ cruises, I believe it had its roof taken of in the early eighties, I would dearly love to get hold of this ol' girl along with a hardtop parts car and get a roof back on her!

Edited by fury61 2008-12-04 7:42 AM
Top of the page Bottom of the page
forwardlookparts
Posted 2008-12-04 1:24 PM (#154321 - in reply to #154210)
Subject: Re: '58 FOUR door Belvie RAGTOP?



Expert

Posts: 2721
2000500100100
Location: Minneapolis
The car has a DeSoto dash. The framework for the top looks to be top-notch from the pics I have seen, extremely well done. My thought is that if it was done right, why not leave it? I wouldnt have done that originally, but I do like it. The only thing I would do is lose the extra set of tail lamps.
Top of the page Bottom of the page
d500neil
Posted 2008-12-04 2:50 PM (#154327 - in reply to #154210)
Subject: Re: '58 FOUR door Belvie RAGTOP?



Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil!

Posts: 19146
5000500050002000200010025
Location: bishop, ca
Doug, that's a Dodge-dash, huh?
Top of the page Bottom of the page
forwardlookparts
Posted 2008-12-04 3:41 PM (#154333 - in reply to #154210)
Subject: Re: '58 FOUR door Belvie RAGTOP?



Expert

Posts: 2721
2000500100100
Location: Minneapolis
Oops, sorry Neil, right. I was going by what they said in the article (DeS) and not really paying attention. The lower B-pillars are reinforced.

If any of you folks down there know this car or the owner, please email or pm Jim Benjaminson. His user name here is "Benji", he would like to get more info on this car.


Top of the page Bottom of the page
suburban61
Posted 2008-12-04 5:56 PM (#154391 - in reply to #154210)
Subject: Re: '58 FOUR door Belvie RAGTOP?



Expert

Posts: 1480
1000100100100100252525
Location: Australia
it looks to have the same dash as dad's Aussie delivered '58 Desoto Firesweep does...
Top of the page Bottom of the page
forwardlookparts
Posted 2008-12-04 6:38 PM (#154400 - in reply to #154210)
Subject: Re: '58 FOUR door Belvie RAGTOP?



Expert

Posts: 2721
2000500100100
Location: Minneapolis
That would explain it: The export DeSotos and Plymouths used Dodge dash clusters?
Top of the page Bottom of the page
d500neil
Posted 2008-12-04 6:48 PM (#154403 - in reply to #154400)
Subject: Re: '58 FOUR door Belvie RAGTOP?



Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil!

Posts: 19146
5000500050002000200010025
Location: bishop, ca
...can you BLAME them....lolol ?
Top of the page Bottom of the page
fury61
Posted 2008-12-04 7:57 PM (#154412 - in reply to #154391)
Subject: Re: '58 FOUR door Belvie RAGTOP?



Regular

Posts: 89
252525
Location: Melbourne, Australia
suburban61 - 2008-12-04 5:56 PM

it looks to have the same dash as dad's Aussie delivered '58 Desoto Firesweep does...


All the the aussie delivered/assembled 58s inc dodge, desoto, and plymouth used the dodge dash in a rhd configuration.

The roof on the subject car was basically cut through the rear pillars and then sliced through the roof, then fitted with a press stud canvas roof that needed to be manualy fitted, I do remember this particular veihicle being extra rattley in the body due to the conversion as this created extra flex in the pillarless body! A very cool car non the less.

During the seventies and eighties here in Australia it was a common occurance that many an old American fordor car would have its roof cut of to simulate a real US convertible what were people thinking! as alot of these so called convertibles very quickly ended up in wrecking yards due to their 'hacksaw' conversions a real shame!
Top of the page Bottom of the page
old mopar guy
Posted 2008-12-04 10:12 PM (#154419 - in reply to #154210)
Subject: Re: '58 FOUR door Belvie RAGTOP?



Expert

Posts: 1508
1000500
Location: new york
I remember reading that chrysler wanted to make a 57 Plymouth 4 door convertible with a retractible hardtop, I will look for the prototype photos! HAPPY MOTORING! Victor.
Top of the page Bottom of the page
forwardlookparts
Posted 2008-12-04 11:22 PM (#154424 - in reply to #154210)
Subject: Re: '58 FOUR door Belvie RAGTOP?



Expert

Posts: 2721
2000500100100
Location: Minneapolis
Look on page 311 of Consumer Guide's "Cars of the Fabulous Fifties".
Top of the page Bottom of the page
Jump to page : 1
Now viewing page 1 [50 messages per page]
Jump to forum :
Search this forum
Printer friendly version
E-mail a link to this thread

* * * This site contains affiliate links for which we may be compensated * * *


(Delete all cookies set by this site)