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big m
Posted 2014-05-20 12:05 PM (#441595 - in reply to #154681)
Subject: Re: 1958 Plymouth Belvedere Convertible



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christine-lover
Posted 2014-05-20 12:25 PM (#441598 - in reply to #441595)
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Posted 2014-05-20 3:38 PM (#441614 - in reply to #441598)
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christine-lover
Posted 2014-06-01 8:03 PM (#443392 - in reply to #154681)
Subject: Re: 1958 Plymouth Belvedere Convertible



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Location: Sept. 1958		Today I removed both side rocker panels, totally wasted, but enough to build copies of I hope. The CDC wants this car gone, too much tetanus!



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christine-lover
Posted 2014-06-01 8:09 PM (#443394 - in reply to #154681)
Subject: Re: 1958 Plymouth Belvedere Convertible



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Location: Sept. 1958		Last week, I braced the side braces, and replaced the worn driver's side door hinges from the parts car.



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LD3 Greg
Posted 2014-06-01 8:21 PM (#443397 - in reply to #443394)
Subject: Re: 1958 Plymouth Belvedere Convertible


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sidesho_bob1961
Posted 2014-06-02 8:40 AM (#443475 - in reply to #154681)
Subject: Re: 1958 Plymouth Belvedere Convertible



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christine-lover
Posted 2014-06-03 5:36 AM (#443557 - in reply to #154681)
Subject: Re: 1958 Plymouth Belvedere Convertible



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henricthornsund
Posted 2014-06-06 4:39 PM (#444006 - in reply to #283817)
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christine-lover - 2011-08-08 2:06 AM

d500neil - 2011-08-03 4:14 PM

Motor number is NOT AVAILABLE....what's up, with that (not recording the engine number on the IBM card???) ?




Thank you Neil, my guess is possibly only high performance engine numbers were listed on the IBM cards.

I had no idea what NCS stood for, but it makes sense. I though it had something to do with Chrysler Historical Society.


I looked at My build card just now and it contains the engine #. Mine is built at The Evansville plant with a 318 Super-Pak engine as well. It is also interesting how differently your accessory list is completed compared to mine. I Will upload pics of My IBM card in my Plymouth thread.

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d500neil
Posted 2014-06-06 6:14 PM (#444020 - in reply to #154681)
Subject: Re: 1958 Plymouth Belvedere Convertible



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some of the options codes which were not self explanatory, on the Detroit & L.A. IBM's.



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christine-lover
Posted 2014-06-06 7:38 PM (#444035 - in reply to #154681)
Subject: Re: 1958 Plymouth Belvedere Convertible



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Location: Sept. 1958		That's awesome. I'm sure the engine in my Plymouth is the original one, the engine bay was untouched, correct date coded/correct part number carburetor, distributor (which is different in 4 bbl car, but not listed in the Master Parts Catalog), radiator, etc. The fuel and water pump were replaced, which would be typical. I don't think I ever posted a photo of its engine bay, until now. Again, I plan on an it's-OE restoration on this car, so I will keep this looking this way just restored and detailed.



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d500neil
Posted 2014-06-06 7:45 PM (#444038 - in reply to #444035)
Subject: Re: 1958 Plymouth Belvedere Convertible



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christine-lover
Posted 2014-06-06 8:02 PM (#444042 - in reply to #444038)
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d500neil - 2014-06-06 7:45 PM

Matt, Big M, on this website, should be able to fix you 'up' with an OEM fuel line and fuel filter.



Thanks Neil. I have this photo of what an OEM fuel line should look like for a 4 bbl car, from a 58 convertible as well. I wish John would cut the quarters off his Fury for me! Haha



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christine-lover
Posted 2014-06-08 6:31 PM (#444252 - in reply to #154681)
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Location: Sept. 1958		Today I drilled a lot of the brass welds on the passenger side quarter off the donor car. This car was hit and a replacement quarter was put in using brass filler metal. I plan to use some of the inner and outer lower wheel house metal from both sides as patches.



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christine-lover
Posted 2014-06-08 6:34 PM (#444254 - in reply to #444252)
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Location: Sept. 1958		From the inside.



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The Chrysler Kid
Posted 2014-06-08 6:59 PM (#444260 - in reply to #444254)
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christine-lover
Posted 2014-06-08 8:06 PM (#444269 - in reply to #154681)
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Location: Sept. 1958		I think so Randy, it didn't look that bad before.
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christine-lover
Posted 2014-06-16 8:01 PM (#445390 - in reply to #154681)
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Location: Sept. 1958		Continued drilling out the spot welds today.



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christine-lover
Posted 2015-03-17 5:24 PM (#472708 - in reply to #154681)
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Location: Sept. 1958		I currently have a fabricator making rocker panels for this car, using the Swedish reproductions as a base, which includes all 3 panels on each side. They are being done to resemble the OE panels even in areas that will never be seen. When they are completed I am going to install them. That's where I'm at with this car.
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christine-lover
Posted 2015-06-22 1:24 PM (#482367 - in reply to #154681)
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Location: Sept. 1958		These are photos of how the rockers are starting to fit, not completed but I did test fit these last month.



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Matthew Keij
Posted 2015-06-22 1:30 PM (#482369 - in reply to #154681)
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Location: The Netherlands		Great work Matt!

Are you coming to Carlise?
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christine-lover
Posted 2015-06-22 2:00 PM (#482375 - in reply to #482369)
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Location: Sept. 1958		Thank you Matt. Yes, I'll be in Carlisle, definitely.
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big m
Posted 2015-06-22 4:42 PM (#482394 - in reply to #154681)
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springsweptwing
Posted 2015-06-22 7:31 PM (#482408 - in reply to #482394)
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Location: Blackpool, United Kingdom.		Matt, just check you're drain holes in rockers, 57 and 58 I think are different , those holes you have look like 57 rockers, Paul.
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christine-lover
Posted 2015-06-22 8:22 PM (#482413 - in reply to #482408)
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Location: Sept. 1958		Hi Paul, he is using my original rockers as patterns so everything is identical to what was on the car.
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christine-lover
Posted 2015-06-22 8:23 PM (#482414 - in reply to #482394)
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big m - 2015-06-22 4:42 PM

Looks nice, Matt!!


Thanks John!
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LD3 Greg
Posted 2015-06-30 7:52 PM (#483253 - in reply to #482414)
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christine-lover
Posted 2015-06-30 8:11 PM (#483257 - in reply to #483253)
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Location: Sept. 1958		Thanks Greg. This past Sunday I picked up all 6 panels from him.
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LD3 Greg
Posted 2015-06-30 8:29 PM (#483258 - in reply to #483257)
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christine-lover - 2015-06-30 8:11 PM

This past Sunday I picked up all 6 panels from him.


After waiting this long it probably feels great to have them home. Good luck with the assembly and keep us posted!

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christine-lover
Posted 2015-06-30 8:40 PM (#483259 - in reply to #483258)
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Location: Sept. 1958		Yes, that will be the next adventure. And what an adventure that will be. I got to get a cleaner, since they have an oil coating on them, then POR-15 the inside areas of them and prime the other areas.
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christine-lover
Posted 2015-08-04 11:40 AM (#486251 - in reply to #154681)
Subject: Re: 1958 Plymouth Belvedere Convertible



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Location: Sept. 1958		Test fitted the drivers side inner rocker, fits well.



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Posted 2015-08-05 2:50 AM (#486308 - in reply to #154681)
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Posted 2015-08-05 9:58 AM (#486330 - in reply to #154681)
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christine-lover
Posted 2015-08-05 7:57 PM (#486371 - in reply to #486330)
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christine-lover
Posted 2015-09-28 8:05 PM (#490888 - in reply to #154681)
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Location: Sept. 1958		I put together the 3 pieces of the rocker panels on the right side up into the car. I had to cut and rework the inner rocker to fit the floor better at the rear part. Before I would put each panel up into place and see how it fit and the fit well. This was the first time I put all 3 pieces into place to check fit. Well, they don't fit good at all, the inner is a half inch? away from the floor, also the outer rocker up front is way off where it would be bolted to the outrigger once fender is on.

Not really sure what to do now, I may have dug myself into a corner!!



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springsweptwing
Posted 2015-11-01 10:21 PM (#493905 - in reply to #154681)
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Location: Blackpool, United Kingdom.		Hi Matt,

Don`t try putting all 3 pieces together at the same time, they probably won`t fit, put the inner rocker in first and work round that, the floor is not straight from one end to the other the inside of the car is wider in the middle, concentrate on getting that in first, then work the outer rocker in place to get a good gap under your door, a few vise grips are going to be needed to pull the sections together for welding, use self tapping screws to hold panels in place then you can plug weld holes up after,

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christine-lover
Posted 2015-11-02 9:16 PM (#494029 - in reply to #154681)
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Location: Sept. 1958		Thank you Paul. I believe I found the issue here, took me a while but it appears to be sagging, the sides of the cowl and also the overhang of the front of the quarters weigh a good bit and what needs to be done is to bring them up using a scaffold, which I started to bring it up. I'm just glad at this point I didn't try to cut the rockers in anyway to make them fit.
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Posted 2015-11-03 1:58 AM (#494048 - in reply to #154681)
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