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christine-lover |
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Expert Posts: 2996 Location: Sept. 1958 | d500neil - 2011-08-13 7:57 PM Matt; you must have had to get to that Broadcast Sheet from 'above' the springs! Can you post up an image or two of it, over on our Fender tag Decoding board? Hand-written, huh; wow.... Broadcast Sheets installed under the rear seats did not occur in Dodges until the 1960 model year. Your Broadcast Sheet must have pertained only to the creation of the upholstery---just as the B.-Sheets that are found taped to the back of the glove boxes pertained only to the creation of the dashboards. You should get your B.-Sheet laminated, to preserve it. This broadcast sheet pertains to things about and on the car, all the numbers I posted above are on this sheet. I'd post a photo of it, but the camera will not capture the numbers as they are pencil written and light. Edited by christine-lover 2011-08-14 9:30 PM | ||
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | PLEASE try....scan it, maybe, and send the PDF to someone (me) so we can arrange to post its image on the Fender Tag board! Maybe even a straight jpeg photo of it. | ||
christine-lover |
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Expert Posts: 2996 Location: Sept. 1958 | d500neil - 2011-08-14 11:12 PM PLEASE try....scan it, maybe, and send the PDF to someone (me) so we can arrange to post its image on the Fender Tag board! Here it is. (Buildsheet 002.jpg) Attachments ---------------- Buildsheet 002.jpg (185KB - 370 downloads) | ||
christine-lover |
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Expert Posts: 2996 Location: Sept. 1958 | I am going to make a wooden jig to support the cowl, need to do this to remove and install the floor panels. Until I can get around to building that, this week after work, I have been patching the rear seat floor brace. Still have more work to it, I patched one side of it. A lot of time is in this. (1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 343.jpg) (1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 345.jpg) (1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 346.jpg) (1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 344.jpg) (1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 347.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 343.jpg (101KB - 350 downloads) 1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 345.jpg (112KB - 343 downloads) 1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 346.jpg (110KB - 357 downloads) 1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 344.jpg (107KB - 362 downloads) 1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 347.jpg (81KB - 355 downloads) | ||
christine-lover |
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Expert Posts: 2996 Location: Sept. 1958 | Today with the help of my dad, we built a wooden jig so the cowl can be supported. Turned out well, just need some hardware to mount it. I got the idea of it after the one Bob Beck built during restoration for his '55 Buick Convertible that was featured in Hemmings Classic Car back in 2007. (1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 348.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 348.jpg (119KB - 344 downloads) | ||
christine-lover |
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Expert Posts: 2996 Location: Sept. 1958 | Recently I started finishing up the driver's side patch panel I will be using. This came off a 57, which differs from a 58. While the floor sheet metal itself is the same, the outriggers go from rocker to rocker on 57s, while 58s are shorter. Also, the reinforcement at the first body mount location differs. So I trimmed the outriggers down to the exact size that 58s were and spotwelded the 58-style body mount reinforcement. Also, the 3rd body mount brackets, which are convertible only items were made up, still need to weld these to the floor. Before I install this floor panel, I am going to patch the lower cowl area behind where the kick panel would go, it seems to be easier to do that and clean up the welding with the floor section out of the way, then it would be to do later. (1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 351.jpg) (1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 349.jpg) (1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 369.jpg) (1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 371.jpg) (1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 372.jpg) (1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 373.jpg) (1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 336.jpg) (1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 335.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 351.jpg (116KB - 320 downloads) 1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 349.jpg (94KB - 324 downloads) 1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 369.jpg (75KB - 334 downloads) 1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 371.jpg (83KB - 345 downloads) 1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 372.jpg (74KB - 323 downloads) 1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 373.jpg (78KB - 318 downloads) 1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 336.jpg (112KB - 344 downloads) 1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 335.jpg (119KB - 345 downloads) | ||
christine-lover |
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Expert Posts: 2996 Location: Sept. 1958 | This is the kick panel area. (1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 358.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 358.jpg (104KB - 327 downloads) | ||
old mopar guy |
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Expert Posts: 1508 Location: new york | Hey Matt! Thats some restoration your doing! Thanks for the photos , it will look great on the road! Can't wait to see it. HAPPY MOTORING! Victor. | ||
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Veteran Posts: 107 Location: Australia | Gee I like your work with steel, It's fun isn't it. | ||
christine-lover |
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Expert Posts: 2996 Location: Sept. 1958 | old mopar guy - 2011-11-29 7:45 PM Hey Matt! Thats some restoration your doing! Thanks for the photos , it will look great on the road! Can't wait to see it. HAPPY MOTORING! Victor. Thanks Vic. Would like to see your 58 too. | ||
old mopar guy |
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Expert Posts: 1508 Location: new york | Matt.Here,s a recent photo, The car getting old we restored it almost 30 years ago but its very solid, the engine is a little tired, and the 1980"s incorrect interior is still nice but the seats are starting to yellow & sag so I am planning on doing alot of the car over . Even a possible color change, my interior shop has already ordered a new top , But its a great car and i love it! I can't believe i have it so long! Time flies. Happy Motoring! Victor.. Edited by old mopar guy 2011-11-30 8:10 PM (phpMdYPT6PM.jpg) (phpJvAFMtPM.jpg) (phpHAR29IPM.jpg) Attachments ---------------- phpMdYPT6PM.jpg (67KB - 350 downloads) phpJvAFMtPM.jpg (71KB - 350 downloads) phpHAR29IPM.jpg (66KB - 330 downloads) | ||
christine-lover |
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Expert Posts: 2996 Location: Sept. 1958 | old mopar guy - 2011-11-30 8:07 PM Matt.Here,s a recent photo, The car getting old we restored it almost 30 years ago but its very solid, the engine is a little tired, and the 1980"s incorrect interior is still nice but the seats are starting to yellow & sag so I am planning on doing alot of the car over . Even a possible color change, my interior shop has already ordered a new top , But its a great car and i love it! I can't believe i have it so long! Time flies. Happy Motoring! Victor.. Nice, thanks for the photos. Sounds like you owned it for a long time, you don't look like you could have owned it all those years, you must have bought it young. Keep us posted on the work your doing to her. I like the color. | ||
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Veteran Posts: 229 Location: georgia | Victor, my 58 Plymouth convertible has the same wheel covers,they were on it when I bought it 8years ago.what did they come off of? Thanks Chad | ||
old mopar guy |
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Expert Posts: 1508 Location: new york | I bought the car when I was 22 and I'm going on 50, I was very into doing the original thing back than now i prefer to do it my way.as an answer to the question above I put the hub caps on ,there 1973 Plymouth satellite sebring caps. I like them almost as much as a 57 Plymouth cap. Happy motoring! Victor. | ||
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Location: Parts Unknown | Victor, Is the color of this car of yours close to original ? | ||
Rebels-59 |
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Board Moderator & Exner Expert 10K+ Location: .Norfolk..Mafia.. ,England UK | Hi Matt.. I,m real pleased to see you finally restoring this Rag Top.. I wish i knew the real condition of it before i passed the Info to you , as it didnt appear that bad from 2 feet away, I guess when you strip down you get the real Picture on condition, Still you have a Real " Needle in a Haystack " Plymouth and should be proud, Please keep the Updates regular , i am pleased to see you progress and i know when you finally finish the restore you will feel Proud.. Clive | ||
christine-lover |
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Expert Posts: 2996 Location: Sept. 1958 | Rebels-59 Coronet - 2011-12-02 3:19 PM Hi Matt.. I,m real pleased to see you finally restoring this Rag Top.. I wish i knew the real condition of it before i passed the Info to you , as it didnt appear that bad from 2 feet away, I guess when you strip down you get the real Picture on condition, Still you have a Real " Needle in a Haystack " Plymouth and should be proud, Please keep the Updates regular , i am pleased to see you progress and i know when you finally finish the restore you will feel Proud.. Clive Thanks Clive. I wouldn't have this car if it wasn't for your help. Yeah, it needs everything and then some, but that's really the only way I'll be happy with a car is if it's all gone through. I am updating this thread regular now, I am working on it on average about 15 hours a week. | ||
christine-lover |
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Expert Posts: 2996 Location: Sept. 1958 | Within the last couple days, I got the patch from the kick panel area made up and fitting good. I had to patch the patch panel. Just need to weld it in place. (1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 374.jpg) (1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 375.jpg) (1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 376.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 374.jpg (106KB - 338 downloads) 1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 375.jpg (108KB - 332 downloads) 1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 376.jpg (101KB - 334 downloads) | ||
christine-lover |
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Expert Posts: 2996 Location: Sept. 1958 | This evening I got the kick panel area welded up and smoothed out. (1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 377.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 377.jpg (103KB - 309 downloads) | ||
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Location: Parts Unknown | Geesh ! When you first shared pix of this car, I thought "That's a pretty nice car" It is almost bad enough to make my DeSoto look rust free ! OK, ... not quite. But it sure does need some *deep* work. Wow ! Coming along nicely, though. | ||
christine-lover |
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Expert Posts: 2996 Location: Sept. 1958 | Doctor DeSoto - 2011-12-04 10:36 PM Geesh ! When you first shared pix of this car, I thought "That's a pretty nice car" It is almost bad enough to make my DeSoto look rust free ! OK, ... not quite. But it sure does need some *deep* work. Wow ! Coming along nicely, though. Thank you Brent. I know what Syracuse can do to cars, I'm from there, but moved away when I was about 4. My father's cars were not good, like his 62 Bonneville Conv, he would have to "bondo up" the lower part of it about every year. My mother's parents had a 54 Plymouth and by 1960, sitting in the car looking down they could see the road. | ||
christine-lover |
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Expert Posts: 2996 Location: Sept. 1958 | Here are some photos of the patch I made for the lower kick panel area on the passenger side. Had to also patch the patch I used. Also, I have been working on the replacement floor, but still got much to do there. Lots of work! Edited by christine-lover 2012-02-24 7:59 PM (1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 383.JPG) (1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 384.JPG) (1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 390.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 383.JPG (110KB - 360 downloads) 1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 384.JPG (125KB - 369 downloads) 1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 390.jpg (122KB - 356 downloads) | ||
christine-lover |
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Expert Posts: 2996 Location: Sept. 1958 | This is where I am now. I am going to patch the donor floor I have, repair some areas and install it into the convertible. (1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 391.jpg) (1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 392.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 391.jpg (123KB - 368 downloads) 1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 392.jpg (145KB - 363 downloads) | ||
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Regular Posts: 74 Location: Falicon 06 France | Very impressive work !!!! | ||
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Regular Posts: 74 Location: San Antonio,Texas | Wow what a great car great work too, I likr the way you pulled the floor complete at all the factory seams ,gonna look very clena when your done with her. | ||
christine-lover |
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Expert Posts: 2996 Location: Sept. 1958 | Thank you. You are doing quite a job on your 58 too. Yeah, I am hiding any welding I do, even if it's underneath the vehicle. And will spotweld panels together where it's possible. | ||
christine-lover |
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Expert Posts: 2996 Location: Sept. 1958 | I've been working on the floor. It had some damage to it on the passenger side. Had to remove the rear outrigger, repair it, and remove some dents in the floor, then reinstall. Also, 4 dr sdn cars had the rear part of the trans tunnel pounded down at the factory, so I had to pound them out. (1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 394.jpg) (1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 395.jpg) (1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 397.jpg) (1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 398.jpg) (1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 399.jpg) (1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 400.jpg) (1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 401.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 394.jpg (136KB - 330 downloads) 1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 395.jpg (138KB - 342 downloads) 1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 397.jpg (127KB - 345 downloads) 1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 398.jpg (115KB - 360 downloads) 1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 399.jpg (93KB - 339 downloads) 1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 400.jpg (85KB - 338 downloads) 1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 401.jpg (121KB - 345 downloads) | ||
christine-lover |
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Expert Posts: 2996 Location: Sept. 1958 | The inner wheelhouse area on both sides will need patching. (1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 402.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 402.jpg (135KB - 349 downloads) | ||
christine-lover |
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Expert Posts: 2996 Location: Sept. 1958 | Original top frame photos, per member raffaplymouth. (1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 161.jpg) (1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 164.jpg) (1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 173.jpg) (1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 175.jpg) (1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 176.jpg) (1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 183.jpg) (1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 193.jpg) (1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 194.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 161.jpg (139KB - 361 downloads) 1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 164.jpg (112KB - 339 downloads) 1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 173.jpg (129KB - 340 downloads) 1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 175.jpg (146KB - 353 downloads) 1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 176.jpg (138KB - 350 downloads) 1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 183.jpg (87KB - 323 downloads) 1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 193.jpg (129KB - 349 downloads) 1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 194.jpg (143KB - 360 downloads) | ||
christine-lover |
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Expert Posts: 2996 Location: Sept. 1958 | I've started patching the passenger side inner wheelhouse. (1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 419.jpg) (1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 422.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 419.jpg (142KB - 355 downloads) 1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 422.jpg (116KB - 379 downloads) | ||
christine-lover |
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Expert Posts: 2996 Location: Sept. 1958 | Today I installed the front floor section. The rear cut line will be centerline of the front edge of the rear seat support brace. I included a photo of the body mount bolts, only one came out in one piece, very rusty. (1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 475.jpg) (1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 476.jpg) (1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 477.jpg) (1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 478.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 475.jpg (158KB - 349 downloads) 1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 476.jpg (141KB - 329 downloads) 1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 477.jpg (128KB - 332 downloads) 1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 478.jpg (139KB - 326 downloads) | ||
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Veteran Posts: 114 Location: South Australia | Man,there realy is a lot of work in them rag tops...lucky they look so good finished! Top stuff. | ||
christine-lover |
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Expert Posts: 2996 Location: Sept. 1958 | muddy - 2012-11-12 7:44 PM Man,there realy is a lot of work in them rag tops...lucky they look so good finished! Top stuff. Thank you....yes, these cars are sooooo nice done! | ||
christine-lover |
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Expert Posts: 2996 Location: Sept. 1958 | Installed the #3 body mount on the passenger side. (1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 475.jpg) (1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 476.jpg) (1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 477.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 475.jpg (136KB - 324 downloads) 1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 476.jpg (124KB - 308 downloads) 1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 477.jpg (121KB - 316 downloads) | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 716 | I got nothing but tons of respect for you guys who put that much work into one of these cars. Wow. Can't wait til you get her finished...I'm definitely coming up to see her in whatever show or event you have her in. | ||
christine-lover |
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Expert Posts: 2996 Location: Sept. 1958 | Thanks. A lot of inspiration on here like Raffa's Desoto and John's 59 Plymouth. It's nice to see progress finally with this car, boosted my morale getting that floor section in. | ||
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Veteran Posts: 117 Location: Kättilstorp Sweden | Impressive work. Magnus | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7809 Location: Williams California | Excellent work, Matt!! Did you make the third body mount, or was it something a suppllier offered? I still have to do this, but I do have the '59 DeSoto to make measurements from. ---John | ||
christine-lover |
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Expert Posts: 2996 Location: Sept. 1958 | Sideshow Bob on here...his pop made me these using my originals as patterns. He's a good friend of mine, he was the one who went to Minnesota with me to get this car and its parts car. Another hard panels to get made up are going to those rockers. There's a lot of detail to them, even the inners. | ||
old mopar guy |
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Expert Posts: 1508 Location: new york | Fantastic!!! Thats some job your doing! I am going to have to tear mine apart soon, not as much as you but super job! Can't wait to see you HAPPY MOTORING! Victor | ||
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Expert Posts: 1728 Location: Fleetwood, Pa | Hey, that body mount looks familiar!! I'll have to tell my Pop you got them welded in....... | ||
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 591 Location: West Chester, PA | Wow Matt, Things are really moving along in you garage! I don't ever recognize it! Keep up the good work! | ||
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Location: Parts Unknown | christine-lover - 2012-11-17 12:13 PM Sideshow Bob on here...his pop made me these using my originals as patterns. He's a good friend of mine, he was the one who went to Minnesota with me to get this car and its parts car. Another hard panels to get made up are going to those rockers. There's a lot of detail to them, even the inners. ====================================================== Talk w/ Big M. He had them made for his 59 and likely has the contact to do it again. Why re-invent the wheel ? | ||
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Member Posts: 32 | WOW!! That is a really cool car! Looks like you're doing a great job restoring it too!! Can't wait to see pics of it done!! | ||
christine-lover |
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Expert Posts: 2996 Location: Sept. 1958 | . (1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 494.jpg) (1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 495.jpg) (1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 496.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 494.jpg (113KB - 315 downloads) 1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 495.jpg (138KB - 346 downloads) 1958 Plymouth Convertible Photos 496.jpg (135KB - 313 downloads) | ||
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Expert Posts: 1728 Location: Fleetwood, Pa | Glad to see you're back at it Matt.......... | ||
christine-lover |
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Expert Posts: 2996 Location: Sept. 1958 | Thanks Bob. Actually I had to take that panel back out, still need a little more metal finishing, but I just wanted to see how it would look with a solid floor. | ||
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Board Moderator & Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 13055 Location: Southern Sweden - Sturkö island | Very impressive - you're gonna save her, that's for sure!!! | ||
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Expert Posts: 3155 Location: NY & VT | Nice work! More than I'd want to get into, that's for sure. Makes my 58 look like a walk in the park. | ||
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New User Posts: 1 | Hallo Great work are anythin news about the resaturation? are you get some new pics. Max | ||
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