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56D500boy
Posted 2021-08-07 9:46 PM (#614085 - in reply to #613998)
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Not very exciting but yesterday and today I cleaned (wire brushes in my cordless drill, wire brush (big), wire brush (small brass)) and painted (Krylon "Fusion" all-in-one Satin Black) my 56 Dodge's rear leaf springs. They were looking rather ratty and have been bugging me for at least 4 years but they were not a priority. Finally got to them yesterday (left) and today (right). The paint seems good and it dries very quickly. By eye, I thought that I did a good job. From the photo, it looks like I need to address a few areas with a bit more paint.

Regardless, they are much better than they were two days ago.

Found the PN on one of the springs: 1636 859 which translates as 55-56 Dodge V8 "Std., except Sub (urban)., Cv. Cp (convertible)" so not D500 (I knew that already 5 leaf not 6 leaf D500).

I also got all 8 of the U-bolt nuts started with the help of MOOVIT and a 21" breaker bar. I didn't twist off the threaded portion of the U-bolt (I was watching carefully). Removing, cleaning and painting the U-bolts and nuts will be the next project to be put off to the future.





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Viper Guy
Posted 2022-01-15 1:27 PM (#618456 - in reply to #165059)
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During this cold, snowy, and blustery day, I decided to take pictures of my recently acquired (Christmas present from my son and wife) '59 1/24 promo scale model that matches the color of my real '59 Firedome 2HT. The colors actually match fairly well and I've never seen a model molded and painted in these colors before.



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Viper Guy
Posted 2022-03-30 3:45 PM (#620600 - in reply to #165059)
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Fortunately I was able to obtain a reproduction D E S O T O trunk mat and installed it today and with a little bit of trimming it turned out really nice.



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57plymouth
Posted 2022-04-01 7:48 AM (#620650 - in reply to #165059)
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Viper Guy
Posted 2022-04-01 10:03 AM (#620651 - in reply to #165059)
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No one makes these anymore. I was lucky to find the last one.
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57burb
Posted 2022-04-01 5:23 PM (#620656 - in reply to #620651)
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Bill Adams (can be found on FB) worked to get the '57/58 trunk mat reproduced nicely in 2019. I'm not sure what availability is for these today.



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Viper Guy
Posted 2022-04-01 8:27 PM (#620657 - in reply to #165059)
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Bill was my source. I was lucky to obtain the last one and was told no more were going to be produced.
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JedRhule
Posted 2022-04-05 5:05 PM (#620731 - in reply to #165059)
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While waiting for a local machine shop to design an adapter that will connect my 56 Dodge P/S pump to a modern alternator, I took this opportunity to clean and paint the top of the engine.
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NicksGarage
Posted 2022-04-05 6:11 PM (#620732 - in reply to #165059)
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Finally gave up trying to start my 1960 wagon that has been sitting since 1978. So this past weekend I had to move it out of my shop so I could work on my 300F and other projects. First opportunity to put the two cars together to take pictures. The wagon will just have to wait until I can yank the engine out and redo it.

The 300F is getting its new bumpers, new starter and new tires.





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Viper Guy
Posted 2022-06-05 4:21 PM (#621932 - in reply to #165059)
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Yesterday the Route 66 MoPar club held their annual meet in Branson, MO. Weather was as good as it could get and there were 128 MoPars in attendance. BUT only three Forward Look cars including my '59 Firedome. You all know what my car looks like but these are the other two: a 1959 Chrysler New Yorker 4HT in the initial stage of being restored and a 1956 Imperial which was quite nice even though it didn't trophy.



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Posted 2022-06-05 5:52 PM (#621935 - in reply to #165059)
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Started cleaning up my latest car. 1960 Imperial Custom.





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Powerflite
Posted 2022-06-12 3:10 PM (#622080 - in reply to #165059)
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I've been driving my '58 Fireflite to church for a month now. This was the first time I brought it with all whitewall tires & spinner caps on it. I got very little reaction from it before, but now, people seem to really like it - because of the whitewalls? I don't really care what others think, but I always love looking in the rear-view mirrors and seeing the fins!
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Posted 2022-06-13 12:03 AM (#622097 - in reply to #165059)
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Pulled the front bumper on my 300F today. Already have another one rechromed. Also going to change the strut bushings while I'm at it. Also took the wheel covers apart so I can repaint them and replace the emblems with new ones. I have to swap out one cover as it's got a lot of hammer dings around the edge. fortunately my car is a dry western car as the geared centers can seize onto the cone of the cover and can be almost impossible to remove. New gears are available so some people just cut them off.




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1960fury
Posted 2022-06-13 10:40 AM (#622108 - in reply to #622080)
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Powerflite - 2022-06-12 3:10 PM

I've been driving my '58 Fireflite to church for a month now. This was the first time I brought it with all whitewall tires & spinner caps on it. I got very little reaction from it before, but now, people seem to really like it - because of the whitewalls? I don't really care what others think, but I always love looking in the rear-view mirrors and seeing the fins! :inlove:


Pictures!
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56D500boy
Posted 2022-06-13 10:48 AM (#622110 - in reply to #622108)
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Pictures!


See Nathan's thread:

http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=72660&...



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Viper Guy
Posted 2022-06-19 5:58 PM (#622244 - in reply to #165059)
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Today I went to the College of the Ozarks annual Father's Day car show. I was totally surprised that there was another Forward Look car there. It wasn't entered in the show but was driven just as a daily driver.

He should have entered it as it didn't cost anything to enter and as a reward for entering, they gave a free brunch buffet to all the participants. I received the best stock original award for my '59 DeSoto Firedome which was a surprise but graciously accepted.



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56D500boy
Posted 2022-10-04 6:42 PM (#624687 - in reply to #622244)
Subject: I opened *AND* closed a can off worms - 56 Dodge C-pillar trim



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The 56 Dodge sedans (at least Custom Royals) have a large stamped stainless steel C-pillar trim piece. The trim mostly fits into a groove in the rear window rubber gasket but it also has one screw at the bottom. The bottom of the trim and the screw is covered by an additional cosmetic stainless trim piece. This last piece is held to the car by a small screw in located in the gap between the rear edge of the rear door (4 drs) and the body structure.

That one little screw has been bugging me for years because it was rusty and crusty and generally bringing the car down. So finally yesterday, I decided to remove that screw and replace it with a chrome or stainless pan head screw. Sounds like a plan?

NOPE. The screw was totally rusted to the body and when I tried to remove it with a Phillips screwdriver, the head just stripped out. Yep. The can opener is about to open the latest can of worms.

First step is to drill out the screw. Takes a couple of drill bits to get that job done.'

Then I could pull the trim piece off the car. Naturally the bent-wire spring clip behind the trim piece breaks. Naturally.

In retrospect, I could have stopped before I took the trim piece off but I didn't. I wanted to clean and polish the trim piece before I put it back on.

So with the lower trim piece off, it exposed a bit of crusty bubbly paint that hasn't seen the light since May of 1956 and was waiting patiently for 66 years for someone to fix it. This is the can of worms.

So to solve the problem and put the lid back on the can (of worms) with the least amount of pain, I did the following:

1. Scraped the bubbling paint off the affected areas.
2. I used a wire brush to further clean up the affected areas.
3. I removed the larger C-pillar cover by drilling out the lower screw (several drill bits were involved) and gently but forcefully prying the large C-pillar trim out of the rubber gasket.
4. Cleaning the exterior of the C-pillar (paint mostly very good still). Some minor scraping and wire brushing.
5. Cleaning out the groove in the rubber window gasket.
6. Treating the affected areas with Rust Converter and having lunch while that dried.
7. Finding some body paint and spraying it into appropriate small glass jars and painting over the dry Rust Converted areas with a small brush (one for the white and one for the dark metallic blue) and letting that dry. Adding a few more coats as time and temperature allowed.
8. Cleaning and polishing the lower trim piece with Goof Off (to get previous spray paint over spray off) and Wenol to polish the cleaned metal.
9. Finding the spare C-pillar stainless cover that I had bought off ebay some years ago and then cleaning and polishing that cover.
10. Finding a workable clip for the back of the lower trim price and installing that.
11. Installing the replacement C-pillar cover by wiggling the trim into the groove in the rubber and the pushing very hard (no tools were used).
12. Installing the lower C-pillar cover with the all important new screw.

Some photos, start to finish (note: I have previously repainted the roof with Chrysler "Stone White" instead of the recommended FORD Wimbledon white (which is much yellower) - the paint I used on the hidden part of the C-pillar was Wimbledon white and it matched very well to the OE Sapphaire White):

And yes, my work was not perfect. I know that. However, the situation behind the C-pillar is better than it was when I opened the can of worms - AND I closed the can of worms in one day, not days or weeks.



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Powerflite
Posted 2022-10-04 8:55 PM (#624693 - in reply to #165059)
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Looks good. The best way to remove a really rusty screw like that, without having to drill it out, is to heat it red hot with a torch before you attempt to remove it. Doing that will work wonders so you aren't stuck drilling it, but it can have a bad effect on nearby paint too.
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JedRhule
Posted 2022-10-04 8:58 PM (#624694 - in reply to #165059)
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Dave, a very timely piece. I anticipate having to remove those trim parts in order to remove the rear glass to replace my headliner. Can I borrow your can opener?
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22mafeja
Posted 2022-10-05 8:39 AM (#624706 - in reply to #165059)
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You were lucky to have any sheetmetal left under the trim piece Dave. That spot is a nightmare on many cars and that petrified screw head looks so familiar.
I like your small but resiliant steps forward....that`s forward look about...
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56D500boy
Posted 2022-10-05 10:32 PM (#624719 - in reply to #624706)
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You were lucky to have any sheetmetal left under the trim piece Dave. That spot is a nightmare on many cars and that petrified screw head looks so familiar.
I like your small but resiliant steps forward....that`s forward look about...


Thanks Ralf. I would not have bought my 56 Dodge if it had any major rust (it didn't). So far (and I've worked on/sanded/primed/painted every panel) I've only found (and fixed) two small perforations. So I was not expecting any rust when I pulled the C-pillar trim. There was some minor bubblying (as shown in the before photos) but that should be fine for a few more years now.

Nathan: I hear you on using heat to loose the rusty screws but I would be very afraid of flames causing more (paint) damage.

I've removed the lower C-pillar trim on the passenger side today and tried the screw that holds the larger C-pillar trim - but the screw head broke off. Naturally

I might try PB Blaster, etc. to get it loose tomorrow.

Drilling will be the last resort.

Just came back from what will be my last car show (pop-up) of the season. Great warm night. Not normal.

(As usual my car was the only Forward Look car there).



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1961plymouthfury
Posted 2022-10-06 5:10 AM (#624720 - in reply to #624719)
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57burb
Posted 2022-10-07 5:45 PM (#624756 - in reply to #624706)
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I drove my Chrysler to Bartlesville, OK for The Gathering at the Roc last weekend, 980 miles total. Car was nothing but a joy. Got to see and tour the amazing Price Tower, designed by Frank Lloyd Wright and completed in 1956.



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Posted 2023-11-02 1:44 PM (#632570 - in reply to #165059)
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Nice picture Danny! I was getting really tired of the huge pepper trees dumping all their debri on my cars and shading the tangerine & orange trees that I actually care about, so I made a rash decision and hacked four of them much shorter. I've been dealing with the long cleanup process for the last week, so no progress on any cars. It'll probably take me a month to finally get rid of it all, but I'll have plenty of fire wood for barbecues. Anyone want to join me?



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22mafeja
Posted 2023-11-02 2:13 PM (#632571 - in reply to #165059)
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I think we all would like to come and visit you and your backyard Nathan...Looks like a dream... today we have 30cm of snow and -9 degrees celsius here on the west coast of Finland.
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Posted 2024-02-20 12:57 PM (#633814 - in reply to #165059)
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Chrysler lurking out from the bush.



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Posted 2024-02-20 3:34 PM (#633816 - in reply to #165059)
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Little bit updating for steering wheel. Filling and grinding until boredom. Fortunately the end result rewards.





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Posted 2024-02-21 1:01 PM (#633830 - in reply to #632570)
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I like the '57 NY couch. A friend of mine of Italian descent made a similar one from the back of a '59 DeSoto and called it the "DeSofa".
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Posted 2025-03-15 6:15 PM (#639257 - in reply to #165059)
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Thanks Chizler. It's nice because I don't have to make room for it in the house & it doesn't have to be pretty.

I got tired of some of my air cleaners not having filters with the lids banging around, or having really nasty ones in them. So I bought 15 oval air filters from a wholesale place that sells to fleet trucks and got them cheaper that way. I filled all my air cleaners with them and used some in my single 4 air cleaners as well, with a couple left over for future use.




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Posted 2025-03-17 2:03 AM (#639278 - in reply to #165059)
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I took mine out for a drive and filled the tank with 93 octane
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I went to Oro Grande days celebration with a car show & other fun on old Rt. 66. Saw a band called the Holy Crow Jazz band that were great. They played mostly 30's songs and had their 3 children occupying themselves behind them. I went to a yard sale on Rt 66 nearby and purchased these HUGE bolts along with a couple of boxes of assorted 1/2-20 and 3/8-24 bolts. All brand new. The bolt with blue paint on it is 1 1/8" in diameter. I'm planning to flatten the ends on them and use them as dollys, for body work, to reach in places that are hard to access. I'll also use them to make other various punches & press tools as well. The price was almost scrap metal price so I couldn't pass up the opportunity. I'm thinking these bolts were probably originally intended to be used for the railroad in something, though I'm not sure what.



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