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wizard
Posted 2015-11-09 12:38 PM (#494660 - in reply to #165059)
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That would have been roundabout 2006 then Ian, I bought the car 2007 from a Swedish seller, who in turn bought it in March 2006.

Today I scraped off all old undercoating in the right rear wheel well - approximately half of the coating wasn't attached to the wheel well, rather hanging together with the parts that stuck.

Better check and keep the undercoating under control Ian, it was just about time to do this work on my car!
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Posted 2015-11-09 1:15 PM (#494662 - in reply to #165059)
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I will check it next time it's on a lift and I'm underneath. However, the car is rarely out in wet weather.
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Posted 2015-11-11 8:26 PM (#494937 - in reply to #165059)
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Replaced the carpeting today. I'm pretty happy with the fit. A little bit of trimming left to do. Oh yeah... found a 1951 dime in the power seat track too. That's cool.

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Posted 2015-11-11 10:07 PM (#494945 - in reply to #165059)
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Nice job Macedon, did you buy the carpet from an on line supplier, pre-sewn?
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Posted 2015-11-12 2:34 PM (#494987 - in reply to #165059)
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Yes it looks great. Where did you get it from?
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Posted 2015-11-12 6:41 PM (#494995 - in reply to #494987)
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Factory OEM Parts

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The online catalog only shows black and dark copper as the available colors. However they will make it for you from about 20 different colors. Send them an email or call. They were very helpful and sent me several samples. I chose dark gold. That's what you see in the pictures I posted.

I needed to trim it to fit, but not a big deal. Price was nice too ~$200. The heel pad is not exactly correct, OK. However, it's pretty darn nice.

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Posted 2015-11-13 7:09 AM (#495044 - in reply to #491985)
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bbrasse1 - 2015-10-12 12:02 AM

You did a remarkable job with the speedometer painting.Where did you get the paint? iT looks so good that I want to do the same to mine or send you mine to do! cOngratulations on your fine work and attention to detail.


Thanks! I got it from hipoparts.com, it's the "Red" HP-FLRED-01 paint. It's a tiny bottle for a few dollars, but I've done two sets of instruments and still have half a bottle. Clean the needles GENTLY with alcohol or thinners to remove any old paint, I used a q-tip to do it. The clock hands come off so can be lightly touched with some fine wire wool if needed. Generally I just used alcohol. The needles bend very easily so support with some card or folded paper.

Use a clean and good quality brush. Don't be cheap! Wash the brush with some dish soap first, then rinse and pat dry with lint-free cloth or an old t-shirt. Paint along the axis of the needle. You will need a LOT of coats - I lost count, but 10-20. Leave 30 mins between coats, or until dry. I just had one instrument on my desk, and did a coat every now and again. You'll need to tilt the gas and temp gauge to get the needle to swing, then put your folded paper underneath to hold in place and to mask the instrument face.

Be patient. Overloading the paint looks awful and doesn't cover any better.

Clean the chrome gauge centers with fine wire wool and some fine metal polish.

The faces are from http://whitegauges.net/. They normally ship black on white, you can get white on black too, but I worked with them on a custom color to get close to the original mint green. They should be able to do that again now. Note that the clock face is wrong - the numbers are too big, the markers are rectangles not arrows and the "made in USA" is missing. There's also some anti-aliasing at the edges of all the numbers. If anyone sees this and tells me to show how clever they are, the trunk is quite large and will accommodate multiple idiots!

One challenge with the faces is that the face for the Oil/Amps light can't possibly go over the chrome center. I basically broke mine off at the base by grinding off the post from the inside, put the face on, then used a glue to reattach the chrome center mounting post. You can't tell....

Feel free to PM if you want more advice. I'm happy to do yours for you, but as I'm in England the shipping may be a pain. It's not that hard anyway, just time consuming and you have to be CLEAN to avoid the paint or faces looking awful.

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Posted 2015-11-13 11:34 AM (#495065 - in reply to #165059)
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Hauled a '57 Chrysler to the CHP office to have the Vin number verified for a friend in Sweden, then unloaded the trailer, drove the '57 Fury back to work. Evening came, and spent several hours scraping undercoating from the bottom of the '59 Desoto.

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Posted 2015-11-14 4:08 AM (#495118 - in reply to #165059)
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Is the carpet for a '57 DeSoto going to fit a '57 Plymouth? Certainly looks like the same bodyshell.

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Posted 2015-11-14 4:39 AM (#495119 - in reply to #495118)
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The body on the DeSoto, Chrysler and Dodge is 4" longer than the Plymouth - 122" wheelbase vs 118" on the Plymouth.

The LWB DeSotos (Firedome, Fireflite) and Chryslers (Saratoga, New Yorker, 1957 Windsor and CDN 1958 Windsor) have a 126" wheelbase but that is all in the front clip. The bodies (from cowl to the rear bumper) is no longer than the 122" wheelbase DeSotos and Chryslers.

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Posted 2015-11-14 5:30 AM (#495123 - in reply to #165059)
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Where's the extra length on the 122 vs the Plymouth? Just trying to work out if I could cut it down.
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Posted 2015-11-14 5:49 AM (#495124 - in reply to #495123)
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imfinlay - 2015-11-14 5:30 AM

Where's the extra length on the 122 vs the Plymouth? Just trying to work out if I could cut it down.


The extra length is in the rear seat area floor.

If you get a carpet that is two piece you can adjust it under the front seat, which is where Chrysler did it.

For a one piece carpet, you can cut the into sections, again to have the front and rear sections overlap under the front seat.

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Posted 2015-12-25 6:54 PM (#499089 - in reply to #165059)
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less than 500 miles to go and i zero the odometer in my 60 fury a second time. maybe i can still make it this year. wow, 100k ago seems like yesterday....

did i ever mention i'm in love with my 383?

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Posted 2016-01-24 4:11 PM (#502177 - in reply to #165059)
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Took some time to replace the ill-fitting, non original trailer lamp that was in place of my backup light, with a NOS original backup lamp unit.

It looks much better and works much better!


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Posted 2016-03-01 7:47 PM (#505585 - in reply to #165059)
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What did I do to my car today....

I finally got the emergency brake to actually hold the car from moving. Then the PS started leaking. Turned out the little o-rings for the return hose adapter on the side of the assist Valve on top of the box were leaking. Spent 2 hours looking for where I put the seal kit I bought 4 months ago and finally found it in my toolbox.

Now there is nothing wrong with anything and I've been driving it for fun. It is so sweet to zoom away from stoplights.. the v-8 has a power and smoothness unlike modern cars and the torqueflite has such a satisfying shift, also unlike modern cars. And there is so much torque down low that there is no bog when it shifts, just a steady stream of power and all the little jelly bean shaped cars just fade away in my rear view mirror.
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60crossram
Posted 2016-03-01 9:12 PM (#505593 - in reply to #165059)
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Nice backup light unit, looks very nice.
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Posted 2016-03-02 6:09 AM (#505610 - in reply to #505585)
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Hey Jim, you stylin' now!

My car feels much the same to me, nice words.

Steve.
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macedon
Posted 2016-03-18 8:00 PM (#507261 - in reply to #165059)
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Resto on the package tray for the 57 DeSoto sedan.



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Posted 2016-03-18 8:48 PM (#507266 - in reply to #165059)
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Macedon, nice job on the package shelf! Was the old one water stained in the corners? Mine is.
Also, the underdash A/C ducting is different than my A/C car. Mine doesn't have any of the metal
diffuser, just the slots in the fiberglass duct. However, I had a 57 Flite 4 dr hdtp parts car that had
the same as yours. Wonder which is correct or if it was a design change to attempt to get more
airflow to the lower cabin space. Just got my A/C working last summer after replacing the clutch.
Works ok, but with a black roof car, it struggles in traffic.

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Posted 2016-03-18 10:01 PM (#507271 - in reply to #507266)
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Yes, the old one was water stained. I painted the new one with latex. The speaker grille and surround with enamel dark bronze metallic. I'm not sure if the water came in from open corner windows or not. I removed the lower stainless trim on the back light and pulled out the putty. Some light rust... not bad. I'll be sure to seal it well.

On the A/C diffuser... both the one on my sedan and the one on my 4 dr hardtop are the same. Both cars have factory A/C with trim tags coded as such. The sedan blows ice cold. I converted it over to 134a.
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Posted 2016-03-19 12:32 AM (#507284 - in reply to #165059)
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"Anyone here remember the lavender one of these that sat long the old highway
to Bucoda in Centralia ? I think that car was a ram car too."

I think that this car may have just resurfaced Doc. My wife was driving the Belvedere the other day and after parking she was approached by a gentleman that was very excited to talk to her about it. Then he tells her he has three '61 Furys and he has to move out of his house and one of them is a sonoramic car. I'm going over to look at it on Sunday and get the VIN so I can see if it is Darrel's book. The other cars are a 2dr silver on red with a black top (classy) and a four door HT. He told me on the phone that the sonoramic car is lilac and he took off all the intake goodies and put them in the trunk so no one would steal them.
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Posted 2016-03-19 11:24 AM (#507304 - in reply to #507284)
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Got my 59 Dodge FIN Tips back from the Chrome shop today,, Wow they came out nice..

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Posted 2016-03-20 2:34 AM (#507364 - in reply to #165059)
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Properly adjusted the throttle linkage so my car would shift right and then went for a test drive.





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Posted 2016-03-20 2:11 PM (#507397 - in reply to #507304)
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Newly Rechromed Fin Tips fitted back onto the the 59 Dodge today...





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Posted 2016-03-20 2:51 PM (#507399 - in reply to #507364)
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Nice, the 300F is a driver!

Those fin tips look great. I have a lot of chrome to redo, but my wallet isn't fat enough yet to get it all done.
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Posted 2016-03-22 9:04 PM (#507636 - in reply to #165059)
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Did my monthly start up the pushed D and then R and back to N and then shut it off if you do that it also helps the suspension. My dad taught me that 1. ( moved it up alittle and then back)
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Posted 2016-03-22 10:35 PM (#507647 - in reply to #507636)
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I removed the heater box in my '59 Dodge and cleaned out all the debri.



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Posted 2016-03-24 4:49 AM (#507794 - in reply to #165059)
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I won an Ebay auction about dual quad intake for 318 poly. Maybe I can start building the car soon, now it has been sitting since 2014....
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Posted 2016-03-24 4:44 PM (#507835 - in reply to #507794)
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Changed the oil and filled all the fluids, put proper air in the tires and went to Dairy Queen. Had a hot fudge sundae.



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Posted 2016-03-24 8:49 PM (#507862 - in reply to #165059)
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Checked the tire pressure and fluids, then drove the 300G on a "clear out the winter cobwebs" run to the local Mopar specialty garage over in the next county.



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Posted 2016-03-24 9:09 PM (#507864 - in reply to #165059)
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At least twice a week I go to the gym. It's a 6 mile drive. I usually take the 60 dodge because it's the perfect trip for it. There was a late model SUV, probably an explorer that was hotfooting it at the stoplight. Interestingly he was able to get the jump on me because those new 8 speed transmissions have really low first/second gears. So he got a car length lead but then I was able to almost hang with him after that up to about 50 when we stopped "racing". Considering everything I think the old dodge did pretty good against a modern car that probably does 0-60 in under 8 seconds.
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Posted 2016-03-24 11:42 PM (#507873 - in reply to #165059)
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When I first bought my (now ex) 1962 300 back in 1982, with the 380 HP 413 engine / dual fours, it was one of the fastest cars in town, doing 0-60 in about 7.5 seconds. That is relatively slow these days.
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Posted 2016-04-01 10:54 PM (#508559 - in reply to #165059)
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Well, after a couple hours of work, we fabricated a new passenger side center floor brace for the '57 4 door!



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Posted 2016-04-02 9:56 AM (#508580 - in reply to #165059)
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My temporary solution until I get the factory material from SMS.



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Posted 2016-04-03 12:33 PM (#508666 - in reply to #165059)
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Posted 2016-04-18 12:05 AM (#509637 - in reply to #165059)
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Well this actually started a couple weeks ago. I was going to take my 300F to the local Good Guys show but went to get gas the day before and was going to do a few things to the car. On the way home I was at a light and the car started running bad and smoking out the exhaust. Noticed that the oil pressure dropped. Got the car home and missed taking it to the show. I got a mechanical oil pressure gauge and disconnected the coil and cranked over the engine. No oil pressure. Changed the oil pump and found that they had used gobs of silicone on the pump and the o-ring on the shaft was missing. Still no oil pressure.

Today had it towed 40 miles to a friend's house where he has a shop to work on it. Thank you AAA! Pulled the distributor and drive and used a priming rod to run the pump. No pressure and very little resistance. Pulled off the oil pan and found more gobs of silicone. They didn't use gaskets on the pan or windage tray but the pickup tube was clear. Submerged the pickup in oil and ran the priming rod. Oil gushed out the bottom of the engine. So something had let go. Maybe a gallery plug. Next took off the intakes and valley pan and it was clear what caused the oil pressure loss. Bent pushrod and lifter popped out. Also turns out the car has 1964 heads with adjustable rockers but has hydraulic lifters. It did have a slight lifter tick when I got it. Don't know yet why it fell out or got bent. Pulled the thrust bearing and a rod cap and both look fine. At least now I know the crank is .020/.020. The engine was rebuilt in 1997. The block is a 1960 and is supposed to be the original.

I had an inkling that it had adjustable rockers as one of the pictures a previous owner sent me showed an engine with them. The engine was painted red but another picture of him putting the engine back in the car had the engine painted black like it should be. Anyway, I don't have time or money right now to redo the whole engine so we're going to get it back together and running again. It could have been much worse. And never believe the stories people tell you when they're trying to sell you a car.



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Posted 2016-04-18 12:26 AM (#509641 - in reply to #165059)
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Posted 2016-04-18 1:29 AM (#509645 - in reply to #165059)
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What a drag Nick! Very sloppy work with silly cone - if that stuff is used it must be used with care - you're lucky that a dab of that didn't enter the gallery. I hope you get it sorted out and fix your Dream car. The rockers should be the same for any 413 RB Engine so you will surely find them.
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Posted 2016-04-18 9:38 AM (#509657 - in reply to #165059)
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Sorry Nick ! That is the hardest thing I face running an Trans/Auto repair shop, Finding a good Mechanic. Still Chrysler lives !!!
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Posted 2016-04-18 10:53 AM (#509661 - in reply to #165059)
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Yeah, it totally sucks but it could have been worse. Hopefully I'll have it back together this weekend. Need to find a pushrod which may not be as easy as I thought it would be.
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Posted 2016-04-18 6:48 PM (#509693 - in reply to #165059)
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Usually bent pushrods are caused by someone starting a car with varnished gasoline, once the engine has cooled down, it actually seizes valve stems in their guides, causing an occasional push rod to bend when restarted.
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Posted 2016-04-19 1:48 AM (#509727 - in reply to #509693)
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big m - 2016-04-18 3:48 PM

Usually bent pushrods are caused by someone starting a car with varnished gasoline, once the engine has cooled down, it actually seizes valve stems in their guides, causing an occasional push rod to bend when restarted.


Yes, the valve is sticking. The car hasn't been driven much in the past 10 years but I ran it when I went to see it in December and the seller started and ran it weekly until I got it a month ago. I've driven it about 100 miles myself. We'll probably be pulling the head this week. Having a hard time finding a matching pushrod. Will probably have to have one made.

If it is a varnish problem, what's the best solution?

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Posted 2016-04-29 1:21 PM (#510487 - in reply to #165059)
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After much thought, hesitation and exchanging emails with sellers of both products, and reading reviews, etc. I have ordered today a brand new set of Good Year Custom Super Cushion bias ply tires over the new Coker bias look radials...

I had bought a set of the Good Year Super Cushions in 2013 for my 1959 Dodge and I really liked them, even though I had sold the car not long afterwards. Plus, Coker didn't really helped me with my requests for info, just telling me to seek out the info myself on their website instead. Good customer service goes a long way in my opinion, and Kelsey Tires, selling the Good Years, had absolutely flawless service both time I did business with them.

Anyway, I'm psyched, and cannot wait to get new "shoes" under my car!
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57chizler
Posted 2016-04-30 1:32 PM (#510549 - in reply to #510487)
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One of my first projects since acquiring my '57 wagon was to clean up/repaint the engine, install a 4-barrel carb and install the A/C components.



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Posted 2016-04-30 6:08 PM (#510565 - in reply to #165059)
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What evaporator did you use? How well did it fit?
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NicksGarage
Posted 2016-04-30 8:03 PM (#510571 - in reply to #165059)
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Hooked up the chokes on my 300F today. The round assemblies were missing when I got the car but I had them from my parts car. Of course now the fuel pump started to leak and nobody local has a rebuild kit.




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Posted 2016-04-30 9:07 PM (#510572 - in reply to #165059)
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Just finished painting my firewall on my imperial. All I need now is the motor.



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1961plymouthfury
Posted 2016-04-30 11:38 PM (#510576 - in reply to #165059)
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I got my forward look an Alabama Crimson Tide plate frame for the back it will not got on the car until the restoration is done
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1961plymouthfury
Posted 2016-04-30 11:40 PM (#510577 - in reply to #165059)
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I got my forward look an Alabama Crimson Tide plate frame for the back it will not got on the car until the restoration is done



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57chizler
Posted 2016-05-01 5:46 PM (#510612 - in reply to #510565)
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Powerflite - 2016-04-30 3:08 PM

What evaporator did you use? How well did it fit?


I used the Vintage Air Mark IV. Fits OK, it is kinda large.



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