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Lancer Mike
Posted 2009-04-03 9:15 PM (#169243)
Subject: Delightful 1958 Dodge Royal Lancer Spring Special



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Location: The Mile High City

The Real Deal! Man-0-Man - It feels like spring time in Paris! It is raining '58 Dodges! Another Beauty!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Dodge-Coronet-1958-Dodge-Royal-Coronet-Lancer_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQitemZ320356338235QQsspagenameZRSSQ3aBQ3aSRCHQ3aUSQ3a101



Edited by Lancer Mike 2009-04-03 9:29 PM
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Lancer Mike
Posted 2009-04-03 9:31 PM (#169246 - in reply to #169243)
Subject: RE: Delightful 1958 Dodge Royal Lancer Spring Special



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Location: The Mile High City		I tell you, I really don't know which I would choose! You can either have the full Spring Special from the factory or you can have that so very complete white one with the exhaust deflectors. Tough choice! Those deflectors are almost worth their weight in gold.
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2009-04-05 1:36 AM (#169346 - in reply to #169246)
Subject: RE: Delightful 1958 Dodge Royal Lancer Spring Special



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Location: Parts Unknown		I don't like the chunky trim on the Spring Specials .... you take that one, I'll do the white one. We can have matching DeSotos and Dodges !
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d500neil
Posted 2009-04-05 8:20 PM (#169438 - in reply to #169243)
Subject: Re: Delightful 1958 Dodge Royal Lancer Spring Special



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Location: bishop, ca		Neat documentary-car, as it has an obvious S.-S. color (Paris Rose?) , it's a Royal, and it does NOT have all of the
S.-S. trim on it ('missing' the end-of-fin caps and the license plate escutcheon).

And, it's a "Saddle Trim" painted S.-S.--where the second color includes the entire middle-area
of the car.

The car should have the unique S.-S. upholstery colors, too, if it was OEM built as a S.-S. model.

...just went to the auction site; YUP, it's got the S.-S. interior colors!

Wow....

AND, I don't suppose, Mike, that you've noticed that this car happens to have PAINTED headlight
doors, on it (?)..........






Edited by d500neil 2009-04-05 8:26 PM
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Lancer Mike
Posted 2009-04-05 10:34 PM (#169452 - in reply to #169438)
Subject: Re: Delightful 1958 Dodge Royal Lancer Spring Special



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Location: The Mile High City		My guess, Neil, is that we are viewing the "Poppy Red" variant of the spring colors. Paris Rose Metallic would have faded to a silvery type of hue - this vaguely salmon tone was once a bright red/orange. Odd that it is not equipped with the eschutcheon and the caps! Nevertheless, this appears to be a factory spring special. This is a very good reference car. The painted headlight doors may indicate an early version of the spring special - perhaps before the shipment of eschutcheons and caps arrived??? With spring specials, anything goes.

Doc, I kind of prefer the white one too! The starting bid prices on these were very low, but reserves were not met. I think either one would be a good deal at $5,000...better if you could get them for less.
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Lancer Mike
Posted 2009-04-06 4:42 PM (#169528 - in reply to #169452)
Subject: Re: Delightful 1958 Dodge Royal Lancer Spring Special



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Location: The Mile High City		$3,716 with one day left and there appears to be no reserve price! We have a live one here...I hope someone on the site picks it up. If the auction ended right now, I would say this looks like a very good deal.
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d500neil
Posted 2009-04-06 10:15 PM (#169569 - in reply to #169243)
Subject: Re: Delightful 1958 Dodge Royal Lancer Spring Special



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Location: bishop, ca		Mike, not all S.-S.'s GOT the Full Monty options; THAT'S why this car, with the painted H/L doors, is such an important
find/reference-model.

Gotta love original condition cars!

BTW, I infinitely prefer the look of this S.-S. car, with its equipment/style, to the plain vanilla
car.








Edited by d500neil 2009-04-06 10:17 PM
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2009-04-07 1:38 AM (#169586 - in reply to #169569)
Subject: Re: Delightful 1958 Dodge Royal Lancer Spring Special



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Location: Parts Unknown		We had this SS discussion before. My SS Coronet 2HT had the side trim, escutcheon, and end caps, but I did not know the difference on the headlight doors and cannot remember what they looked like, if different. The interior had seat covers and the entire car had been submerged in a flood just before I got it, requiring a total gut-out to remove all the silt and water. I think I just tossed the seats because I had nice ones on hand, but can't really remember after all these years. What I clearly remember was that fat side trim and the escutcheon and end caps, all of which I thought were "heavy" and contrary to the light and perky design of the 58 Dodge. Had I not reduced my "fleet" to the one DeSoto, I would have built the car back with the 57 side trim and "lost" the other SS parts.
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1960ny
Posted 2009-04-07 5:28 AM (#169598 - in reply to #169243)
Subject: RE: Delightful 1958 Dodge Royal Lancer Spring Special



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Location: Sweden		The seller pulled the Dodge off Ebay! No reason given!
I was hoping to buy it and was the highest bidder when it got pulled!
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Lancer Mike
Posted 2009-04-07 1:48 PM (#169631 - in reply to #169598)
Subject: RE: Delightful 1958 Dodge Royal Lancer Spring Special



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Location: The Mile High City		Uh, oh! They must have realized that they did not have the reserve they wanted. Either that, or it was sold locally. It just may show up again in the near future...
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d500neil
Posted 2009-04-08 9:42 PM (#169809 - in reply to #169243)
Subject: Re: Delightful 1958 Dodge Royal Lancer Spring Special



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Location: bishop, ca		Jorgen, I'll bet that this car got sold, locally.

Too bad, you woulda done a great job, restoring it!

It would have been breath-takingly beautiful, with its matching-interior colors.....and shiny chromework.


...MIKE: (Clive/anyone!!!!:) can y'all post-up all of this car's photos, here, for posterity????

Once the auction is removed, we lose all of the car's detail images, forever!!!!








Edited by d500neil 2009-04-08 9:45 PM
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Lancer Mike
Posted 2009-04-09 12:26 PM (#169873 - in reply to #169809)
Subject: Re: Delightful 1958 Dodge Royal Lancer Spring Special



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Location: The Mile High City		That's all of them, I believe



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d500neil
Posted 2009-04-09 5:18 PM (#169904 - in reply to #169243)
Subject: Re: Delightful 1958 Dodge Royal Lancer Spring Special



Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil!

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Location: bishop, ca		And, the only time(s) that I've ever seen a car's interior suffer, as the result of installing clear plastic seat covers,
is when/where the plastic material has 'failed', exposing the OEM material to the elements (as may have happened
with this car's rear upper seat area).

Whatta car.












Edited by d500neil 2009-04-09 5:20 PM
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Lancer Mike
Posted 2009-04-09 9:39 PM (#169943 - in reply to #169904)
Subject: Re: Delightful 1958 Dodge Royal Lancer Spring Special



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Location: The Mile High City		I think that trim dip under the lancer emblems makes all the difference on the spring specials. The standard Coronet trim did not work as well together. I agree Neil, the more I look at this car the better it gets. The reason I like the white one better is that I see fewer areas that need attention on the white car and it is more in a ready to go state. I do prefer a bit of color spashed on these cars, as the spring special shows off so well.
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h-bomb
Posted 2009-04-10 4:00 PM (#170012 - in reply to #169598)
Subject: RE: Delightful 1958 Dodge Royal Lancer Spring Special



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1960ny - 2009-04-07 5:28 AM

The seller pulled the Dodge off Ebay! No reason given!
I was hoping to buy it and was the highest bidder when it got pulled! :o



HURRY....IT'S BACK!!!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1958-Dodge-Royal-Lancer_W0QQitemZ320...
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firedome
Posted 2009-04-13 1:32 PM (#170340 - in reply to #169243)
Subject: Re: Delightful 1958 Dodge Royal Lancer Spring Special



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Location: NY & VT		Love the color! but really don't care for that super wide lower trim strip - looks like the chrome was put on with a trowel!!

Neil! Did Dodge-built '58 FireSweeps have a Spring Special and did they ever have the painted headlite doors??

Edited by firedome 2009-04-13 1:35 PM
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d500neil
Posted 2009-04-13 9:54 PM (#170422 - in reply to #169243)
Subject: Re: Delightful 1958 Dodge Royal Lancer Spring Special



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Location: bishop, ca		Whew! Were there any 1958 DeSoto "spring Specials" made?

Going back, at least to 1955, and well-earlier, probably, Chrysler Corp had various 'Spring Specials' models made.

You know what?

I DO have a 1958 Chrysler S.-S. ad, at home---it's that all-Turquoise Windsor model, IIRC, but DeSotos...?

There were no 58 Firesweep S.-S.'s that I'm aware of. Why NOT?



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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2009-04-14 12:35 AM (#170440 - in reply to #170422)
Subject: Re: Delightful 1958 Dodge Royal Lancer Spring Special



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Location: Parts Unknown		Yes, DeSoto DID have a Spring Special trim package.

Besides a half dozen new paint colors, interior fabrics were revised and exterior trim queues were offered.

The most notable exterior trim pieces were aluminum sweep inserts (like 58 Belvedere) and short vertically mounted stainless bars on each side of the license plate shadow box.

All of these could be had on any model except Adventurer, and like the 58 Dodges, not all package components showed up on every SS car.
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1955Coronado
Posted 2009-04-14 2:29 AM (#170445 - in reply to #170422)
Subject: Re: Delightful 1958 Dodge Royal Lancer Spring Special



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d500neil - 2009-04-13 6:54 PM

Whew! Were there any 1958 DeSoto "spring Specials" made?

Going back, at least to 1955, and well-earlier, probably, Chrysler Corp had various 'Spring Specials' models made.

You know what?

I DO have a 1958 Chrysler S.-S. ad, at home---it's that all-Turquoise Windsor model, IIRC, but DeSotos...?

There were no 58 Firesweep S.-S.'s that I'm aware of. Why NOT?





1958 DeSoto Spring Specials?

Why, yes!

Courtesy of Lee ("roadkillontheweb") and the Binder DeSoto auction of recent past - a 1958 DeSoto Firedome 4 door hardtop w/anodized sweep inserts and "bars" bookending the license plate housing:



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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2009-04-14 10:55 AM (#170473 - in reply to #170422)
Subject: Re: Delightful 1958 Dodge Royal Lancer Spring Special



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Location: Parts Unknown		Yup !

That's the stuff !
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1955Coronado
Posted 2009-04-14 11:22 AM (#170477 - in reply to #169243)
Subject: Re: Delightful 1958 Dodge Royal Lancer Spring Special



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Location: Hell's Outhouse - a.k.a. Buckeye, Arizona		'Thought you'd dig that, Doc.

Really a sweet hardtop - aside from the relatively miniscule rust issues shown and the tacky front bench, the engine (361?) was stuck though, IIRC.
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christine-lover
Posted 2009-04-14 8:28 PM (#170535 - in reply to #169243)
Subject: RE: Delightful 1958 Dodge Royal Lancer Spring Special



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Location: Sept. 1958		Here's a photo of a 58 Desoto Fireflite with the Spring Special treatment, this one shows up at the Macungie PA car show the first weekend in August.



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d500neil
Posted 2009-04-14 8:46 PM (#170539 - in reply to #170535)
Subject: Re: Delightful 1958 Dodge Royal Lancer Spring Special



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Location: bishop, ca		Is that rocker panel (rust-out-hiding) stainless-strip a S.-S. piece, too?

I know that I've got one or more 1958 DeSoto ads which show the license plate 'bookend' pieces on the car. Didn't realize
that they were 'special' trim pieces.




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Lancer Mike
Posted 2009-04-14 11:45 PM (#170566 - in reply to #170539)
Subject: Re: Delightful 1958 Dodge Royal Lancer Spring Special



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Location: The Mile High City		I think they are, Neil. At least they are on all the spring specials I have seen...

$7,600 clams for the Dodge Spring Special. Hooray! my net worth just went up! eBay is a strange place to sell now, I wonder if he will actually get that. If the buyer backs out a second time, I doubt we will see it again. I would be miffed!

Anybody here get it???

Edited by Lancer Mike 2009-04-14 11:47 PM
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Lancer Mike
Posted 2009-04-14 11:51 PM (#170568 - in reply to #170566)
Subject: Re: Delightful 1958 Dodge Royal Lancer Spring Special



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Location: The Mile High City		Jorgen, did you get it?
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1960ny
Posted 2009-04-15 7:36 AM (#170592 - in reply to #170568)
Subject: Re: Delightful 1958 Dodge Royal Lancer Spring Special



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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2009-04-15 11:55 PM (#170701 - in reply to #170539)
Subject: Re: Delightful 1958 Dodge Royal Lancer Spring Special



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d500neil - 2009-04-15 5:46 PM

Is that rocker panel (rust-out-hiding) stainless-strip a S.-S. piece, too?

I know that I've got one or more 1958 DeSoto ads which show the license plate 'bookend' pieces on the car. Didn't realize
that they were 'special' trim pieces.


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Yes, the rocker stainless is S/S. It would show up as normal fair for 59, so it is not very unique like the other special parts.

I have never understood why so few S/S trimmed DeSotos were produced. Many more got the special S/S paint colors without the trim than those that got the trim. My OEM "Haze Blue Metallic" was a S/S color, but it got none of the special trim. Just for FYI purposes, it was built 06 Jan 58.
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The Adventurer
Posted 2015-08-09 10:47 AM (#486624 - in reply to #169243)
Subject: RE: Delightful 1958 Dodge Royal Lancer Spring Special



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58WindsorDartline
Posted 2015-08-09 2:28 PM (#486634 - in reply to #169243)
Subject: Re: Delightful 1958 Dodge Royal Lancer Spring Special


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