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catman |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 781 Location: Montreal, Canada | All right, Because Adriana inspired me big time with her "Sub Club" and I that needed a reason to ask FL member to show their Sub to us, here it is the official "Sub Club". Now it is time to show off your wagon, restored or not. Tell us what it needs, cool souvenirs, family trips, '50's shopping adventure and more. Here is mine, 1959 Dodge Custom Sierra. Bought her in 1997, I toured the US and Eastern Canada with the band gear in the back. Made several trips with the kids. My last trip was with my wife in Ohio to buy part from Murray B. Park and Vintage Auto Parts (both very nice guys). Two weeks later, the car died in my garage. Both engine and tranny needs full rebuilt now as well as the body. One day I will resurrect her to her former glory. Now your turn. (_9200124-1.jpg) Attachments ---------------- _9200124-1.jpg (485KB - 87 downloads) | ||
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Expert Posts: 1918 Location: Hell's Outhouse - a.k.a. Buckeye, Arizona | Oh yeah - I guess the Sierra Club was already taken..... Once I get mine, I think I'll start up a couple factions of my own: "The Godfather FL Club" for all the 1st generation FL's (1955-1956 - the Coronado qualifies) "The Little Orphan FL Club" for all the single year, relatively quirky FL designs (1959 - my future Fury/Sport Fury hardtop qualifies) I'll be watching out for entries..... | ||
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Expert Posts: 1918 Location: Hell's Outhouse - a.k.a. Buckeye, Arizona | BTW Robert - love the "aw shucks" answer concerning your big band below. Your modesty knows no bounds, sir - having had two of my own in years gone by, I can attest to what an unreal headache it is organizing a big band. Be it full time or seasonal, I had to juggle up to 18 schedules just to get my guys in for rehearsals every time, let alone gigs. The music sure pays off, though. | ||
catman |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 781 Location: Montreal, Canada | 1955Coronado - 2009-05-18 9:19 PM - having had two of my own in years gone by, I can attest to what an unreal headache it is organizing a big band. Be it full time or seasonal, I had to juggle up to 18 schedules just to get my guys in for rehearsals every time, let alone gigs. The music sure pays off, though. ;) Do I hear you brother !!!!! Do you have any pictures of your band? | ||
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Expert Posts: 1918 Location: Hell's Outhouse - a.k.a. Buckeye, Arizona | Nope - what little I had was part of what was destroyed in a shed fire back in 2004, including a few live 7" reel-to-reels from 1994-1996. All my high school band pics as well. Did have an all-girl sax section at one point, though (2 alto, 3 tenor, 1 baritone - sometimes the 3rd tenor dropped down to baritone). | ||
Kenny J. |
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Inactive by user's request Location: Las Vegas, Nevada | This is the easiest way to do it: http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/photos/photo-thumbnails.asp?album... K. | ||
suburban61 |
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Expert Posts: 1480 Location: Australia | i cant say that i am much of a friend of the album section... theres not enough writing... catman, im glad that you liked my 'sub club' idea and i have wanted to start a thread like this for a while but though that people might be getting annoyed with me for all my jabbering and rambling... but i shall put my two cents in now... my suburban is oscar i am currently looking for the following parts... top/ bottom ball joints and top wishbone bushes and as always headlight rings... im sure theres is more but thats all that i can remember right now... oscar is at the body shop at the moment and should be finished any day now and then he shall go to the paint shop... i am always searching for 1961 plymouth paraphernalia that i dont have... i hope to one day own a '61 plymouth suburban in every available colour (if that is still possible, there is some colours ive never seen one in) to distract myself from the every growing mountain of assignments i have to complete i made a quick bumper sticker for our make believe club catman... how funny... cheers adriana (sub_club_one.jpg) (dad working on my suburban.jpg) Attachments ---------------- sub_club_one.jpg (105KB - 77 downloads) dad working on my suburban.jpg (58KB - 87 downloads) | ||
Kenny J. |
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Inactive by user's request Location: Las Vegas, Nevada | I meant it was easier for ME to link to my album than to tell the story again here. K. | ||
goldfin58 |
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Regular Posts: 80 Location: Mid Atlantic | Adriana, www.Rockauto.com has your upper bushes and balljoints for your 61 Suburban. There prices are really good and shipping has been fast, may take a little longer to ship to Australia though. Michael | ||
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Expert Posts: 3155 Location: NY & VT | Also Andy Bernbaum, Kantor Auto Parts, Murray Park, even NAPA will have those steering and suspension parts, all have websiites and can be Googled. Adriana, you must be just about hyperventilating, knowng you'll be getting him back all straight and shiny soon!! There's pics of my old White and Salmon '57 Plym Sport Sub on Member's Rides about Sept '07 if that's still accessible. | ||
catman |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 781 Location: Montreal, Canada | suburban61 - 2009-05-19 1:37 AM i cant say that i am much of a friend of the album section... theres not enough writing... catman, im glad that you liked my 'sub club' idea and i have wanted to start a thread like this for a while but though that people might be getting annoyed with me for all my jabbering and rambling... but i shall put my two cents in now... my suburban is oscar i am currently looking for the following parts... top/ bottom ball joints and top wishbone bushes and as always headlight rings... im sure theres is more but thats all that i can remember right now... oscar is at the body shop at the moment and should be finished any day now and then he shall go to the paint shop... i am always searching for 1961 plymouth paraphernalia that i dont have... i hope to one day own a '61 plymouth suburban in every available colour (if that is still possible, there is some colours ive never seen one in) to distract myself from the every growing mountain of assignments i have to complete i made a quick bumper sticker for our make believe club catman... how funny... cheers adriana Adriana, Love your bumper stiker. OK maybe I would go with different color. You are right about "not enough writing" this why I started this tread: to let members write about their sub. I love to read a good stories. I can't wait to see your sub with a fresh coat of paint. Keep us posted. Now your turn sub owners, tell us more about your car. Post a picture so I can make some kind of registry: the "FL Sub Club owners". | ||
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Expert Posts: 3967 Location: DFW, TX | Here's my '57 Suburban. Someone on the HAMB said they knew where a couple of old cars were sitting in Florida, including a 1959 Suburban. No one else seemed to realize that Suburbans were Mopars, so I asked him for the contact information. The car's owner told me it was actually a '58 and had a little rust but was overall pretty solid. He had bought it 15 years earlier to chop up into an Americana art project but never got around to it. When he sent me pictures, it was obviously really rough, and obviously a '57! However it was dirt cheap and a 2dr wagon, so I went ahead and got it. My dad thought I was crazy, I think some of you know he does high-end restoration work. I slowly accumulated some parts for it over 3yrs and a couple of moves, but about this time last year I got serious about putting it on the road. It's just a beater but it has been an absolute blast to drive around. It's been extremely reliable too. The first two problems I've had with it were both this month, the roll pin sheared in the 289 Ford's distributor and the fuel pump died. I've been considering selling it to make more room, but it sure is fun to bomb around in it. Danny (58plymouth2.JPG) (halloween 002.jpg) (group.JPG) (wagon_fortworth 016.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 58plymouth2.JPG (90KB - 86 downloads) halloween 002.jpg (107KB - 82 downloads) group.JPG (134KB - 78 downloads) wagon_fortworth 016.jpg (111KB - 81 downloads) | ||
catman |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 781 Location: Montreal, Canada | Man I just love that car. Good thing if you keep it !!!!!! It has that rat rod feel without being flat black and pinstriped. KOOL. I also love those wire wheels. Got any problems with those? Edited by catman 2009-05-19 1:29 PM | ||
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Expert Posts: 3967 Location: DFW, TX | The wire wheels were supposed to be "sealed" with a goop where the spokes meet the outer rim, but they do leak over time. I've since put tubes in the tires and that solved the problem. The bias plys are really pretty and I like them, but they wear fast on a heavy car and I wanted a slightly different look for the car. I put a set of BFGs radial whitewalls on my chrome reverse last week and have been driving it around like this since, it drives INFINTELY better with the radial tires! It's like a whole new car. I may put these on the wire wheels though, I do like the spokes. (PIC-0389.jpg) (PIC-0390.JPG) Attachments ---------------- PIC-0389.jpg (59KB - 84 downloads) PIC-0390.JPG (33KB - 77 downloads) | ||
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 538 Location: Hamburg-Germany | Ok here are the latest pictures the wagon is nearly complet the last part, the left eyebrow comes from Big M it would be never a show winner but I like to bring back old steel on the road so I have restored all doors -rockers and the floor as good as I can (I'm a gardener) the old owner must spend a lot of $ in tape and bondo the wagon is my fourth car that I'll bring back but not my latest! (g4.JPG) (g5.JPG) (g6.JPG) Attachments ---------------- g4.JPG (68KB - 79 downloads) g5.JPG (71KB - 70 downloads) g6.JPG (72KB - 80 downloads) | ||
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Regular Posts: 58 Location: League City, TX | Here's mine the night I brought it home. My F100 is almost done, so I will focusing on the Suburban soon. (unloading.jpg) Attachments ---------------- unloading.jpg (81KB - 67 downloads) | ||
BlueGhost |
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Regular Posts: 58 Location: League City, TX | 57burb - 2009-05-19 2:37 PM The wire wheels were supposed to be "sealed" with a goop where the spokes meet the outer rim, but they do leak over time. I've since put tubes in the tires and that solved the problem. The bias plys are really pretty and I like them, but they wear fast on a heavy car and I wanted a slightly different look for the car. I put a set of BFGs radial whitewalls on my chrome reverse last week and have been driving it around like this since, it drives INFINTELY better with the radial tires! It's like a whole new car. I may put these on the wire wheels though, I do like the spokes. :cool: Those new tires fill out the rear wheel wells nice. What size did you go with? Are they the BFG silvertowns, or Diamondbacks? | ||
catman |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 781 Location: Montreal, Canada | Blue Ghost, Your wagon looks cool. What is the story behind your car? Do I see fresh paint? Can you post more pictures? | ||
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Regular Posts: 58 Location: League City, TX | The paint looks good in the pics, but its not fresh. It's pretty faded in places, mainly on the roof and hood. All in all its very straight, with some rust in the rear quarters. It needs floor pans, the previous owner cut out the floor pans and screwed in some aluminum with sheet metal screws. So its like the floors are made of cookie pans right now. It already had a 440, a later model 727, and later rear axle when I bought it. Plans are to make it into a mild custom. Noting drastic, have it sit a little lower, maybe remove some of the trim and badges, and a nice paint job. The story on the car is a long one. I've owned it for about 6 years now, which makes it the vehicle I've owned longest out of all my current vehicles. I had planed to start working on it right away, but my daily driver F150 was rear ended and totaled out shortly after I bought the Suburban. I bought the truck back from insurance, bought a Bronco for my new daily. Then found a 65 F100 to put the motor and transmission out of the wrecked truck in. Thinking it would be a quicker project I started working on the F100 first. Now that it is almost finished I'll finally get started on the Plymouth. | ||
Xea |
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Regular Posts: 99 Location: Central City, Iowa | I just hung the clutch on my flat 6 this last sunday. I have to put the bellhousing and tranny on yet then I can install the motor. Let me see if I can post some pictures (100_2755.jpg) (100_2303-1.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 100_2755.jpg (16KB - 77 downloads) 100_2303-1.jpg (13KB - 78 downloads) | ||
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Expert Posts: 3967 Location: DFW, TX | BlueGhost - 2009-05-19 10:22 PM Those new tires fill out the rear wheel wells nice. What size did you go with? Are they the BFG silvertowns, or Diamondbacks? Silvertowns. The rears are 235/70-15s with a 2.75" whitewall, the fronts are 215/65-15s sold with a 2.5" whitewall but they're actually 2.25". I'm happy with the tire sizes, wish the whitewalls weren't 1/2" different though. Fronts: http://store.coker.com/p215-65r15-bfg-2-1-2-whitewall.html Rears: http://store.coker.com/p235-70r15-bfg-2-3-4-whitewall.html | ||
d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | Scott, can you post some more pics, and describe, what you've done to your flattie? I've suggested to Adrianna, and suggest to any others, out there, with the flat head-6, that they should consider hopping/dressing-up their engines for more performance and visual attraction. Shaving the head, larger valves, porting/polishing, intake and exhaust manifolds and multiple carbs are all doable. Back in the 30's, the Chrysler high-performance cylinder head was the (painted-) "Red Head"; I'd probably paint my car's head red (or maybe chrome it) and keep the engine in Chrysler-silver. | ||
BigBlockMopar |
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Expert Posts: 3575 Location: Netherlands | '55 to '61 only huh? I feel left out... Oh well... Your loss... lol | ||
d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | THAT car doesn't get much attention, running around the Low-lands, huh? | ||
BigBlockMopar |
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Expert Posts: 3575 Location: Netherlands | Well, to be honest, I'd rather drive around in the States with it... | ||
Xea |
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Regular Posts: 99 Location: Central City, Iowa | I'm still trying to figure out posting pictures, but sure. I'll yak if you guys want to listen. I bouught my 'Burb from 1958 Paul of Omaha last labor day. On the way home (driving her) we overheated. Turns out there was a cracked head and block. I was nosing around this site and 1957Plymouth turned me on to Vintage Power Wagons here in Iowa. Turns out they are 100 miles South of me so I went and picked up a complete engine, head to pan. I found a header/dual carb manifold on Ebay and got a couple late carbs for her. Shaved the head to raise compression a bit and got an HEI ignition. Cleaned and detailed things and am about to put it in. I'm dying to drive her. Edited by Xea 2009-05-20 11:37 PM (100_2324.jpg) (100_2346.jpg) (100_2348.jpg) (100_2395.jpg) (100_2300.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 100_2324.jpg (96KB - 70 downloads) 100_2346.jpg (188KB - 73 downloads) 100_2348.jpg (161KB - 74 downloads) 100_2395.jpg (182KB - 88 downloads) 100_2300.jpg (180KB - 108 downloads) | ||
catman |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 781 Location: Montreal, Canada | Xea, I love the color combinasion on your car, rat rod style !!!! Happy to see you have solved your engine problem. I see your from Iowa. I played music at the Ameristar casino in Council Bluffs years ago. We had lots of fun and the crowd was very nice. I wish you the best with your sub. What kind of interior treatment will you do to your car? | ||
catman |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 781 Location: Montreal, Canada | BigBlockMopar, Don't feel left out. Your sub is beautiful. Is this model an Exner design of an Engel one? Calling JimK....... Edited by catman 2009-05-21 12:12 AM | ||
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Expert Posts: 1480 Location: Australia | xea, i adore your sub... flatblack and red is ace! id probably add some scallops tho (maybe)... one day i want to get a '61 suburban and paint it a bubblegum blue metal flake with white scallops, med-wide whites, moonies and of course mascara inserts... maybe drop it a few inches... all the body and inside would still be original just the paint and accesories wouldnt be... anyway, someday when their not so anal about LHD rego in my state... but i do truely love your suburban.... cheers adriana | ||
BigBlockMopar |
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Expert Posts: 3575 Location: Netherlands | catman - 2009-05-21 12:10 AM BigBlockMopar, Don't feel left out. Your sub is beautiful. Is this model an Exner design of an Engel one? Calling JimK....... This is still Exner-styling, exact same model as the '61 Chrysler, only without the fins this year. That's why I never get that 1961 year 'cutoff' when it comes to FWLK-cars. Probably invented by a Dodge or Plymouth-owner '63 and newer is Engel, with different chassis-components and all. | ||
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Account Suspended Posts: 2827 Location: At "The Rock" in upper East Tennessee | I like everything about this car. The paint, and the way you did the engine is really cool. | ||
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Expert Posts: 3967 Location: DFW, TX | Again, I can't see Photobucket at work, but I believe this thread has some pictures of a VERY well detailed 218. If not, do a search on the HAMB for user BloodyKnuckles' '51 Plymouth, the detail on that engine is just incredible. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=118254 | ||
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Expert Posts: 2905 Location: little rock, AR | Now I've gone an dun it. I bought me one of them thar suburbans. Or do ya call a '61 Dodge S.W. a Sub? I'm going to pick it up tomorrow. I'll post pics as soon as I get home. | ||
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Expert Posts: 1480 Location: Australia | fabulous! pics would be devine... yeah sub is short for suburban.... us aussie seem to have a knack for shortening words even if the word was already short to start with... cheers adriana | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7808 Location: Williams California | I'm sure that you remember our Dodge, too! (Honeymoon trip 041.jpg) Attachments ---------------- Honeymoon trip 041.jpg (152KB - 73 downloads) | ||
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Expert Posts: 1480 Location: Australia | by the way.... i got a phone call yesterday to say that my suburban (oscar)'s body work is all finished (no more dents!)... got a lead on a painter, who is going to go look at my car and give me a price, took 5 pieces of stainless to go get straightened last night... enquired about bushes and ball joints this morning... and recieved my 2x tailgate strips from big m yesterday (thankyou!)... its all happening on the sub front at the moment... now just need to get on and find/ order carpets... cheers adriana | ||
Xea |
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Regular Posts: 99 Location: Central City, Iowa | Got my replacement core support blasted this weekend. Got one small spot of rot to fix and them paint. I may be pushing the old girl around to slip the motor/trans in this week. | ||
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Expert Posts: 1508 Location: new york | This is my 55 plymouth wagon, I got it back from california 3 weeks ago it was at a friends house for the last 5 or 6 years it a v8 stick with over drive , the bodys straight it needs paint interior ,harness, a general restoration. have to decide to do it ,"Rat rod it" or sell it . I DONT KNOW!!! Im even thinking of a modern drive train with power steering,air,etc.... Well Ill see what happen's now its here so its more likely to get done! In the mean time I,ll drive my Nash Rambler wagon and my Checker wagon! HAPPY MOTORING! Victot (DCP_0001 031109 (Small).JPG) (php5Cu2L4PM.jpg) Attachments ---------------- DCP_0001 031109 (Small).JPG (49KB - 69 downloads) php5Cu2L4PM.jpg (53KB - 76 downloads) | ||
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Inactive by user's request Location: Las Vegas, Nevada | Put a modern drivetrain in it, Victor. I should do the same to my manual transmission '59 Plymouth wagons. Heck, we can re-rewrite history and make it appear as if NO Mopars built between 1955 and 1962 ever had a stick or an overdrive! Seriously, am happy to see you finally got the wagon home. Keep us posted on your progress. K. | ||
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 461 Location: Brooklyn NY | Here's my 58 Plymouth Suburban Deluxe, photos are from last year, I recently painted the roof Iceburg White and the car is presently at my cousins shop getting Floorboards, supports, inner rockers, and patched outer rockers. We also had to patch the bottom of the firewall behind the fenders. I'll be posting a full photo step by step once its finished. This is the 1st time I did metal work so it took alot longer than I expected. (jsw_001.jpg) (jsw_002.jpg) Attachments ---------------- jsw_001.jpg (53KB - 79 downloads) jsw_002.jpg (44KB - 75 downloads) | ||
d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | Dorsey, A Dodge "Suburban" would only refer to the 2-door station wagon model, and it was equipped similar to that of the Coronet models. The higher-end Sierra ("Royal"-trimmed) and Custom Sierra "Custom Royal"-trimmed) wagons were both only 4-door models. Either could be bought having the rear "Spectator" seat, or not. Calling a CSierra a 'Suburban', is kind of a put-down....kinda like referring to a chopper as "a scooter".... | ||
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Location: Parts Unknown | d500neil - 2009-06-06 1:22 PM Calling a CSierra a 'Suburban', is kind of a put-down....kinda like referring to a chopper as "a scooter".... ****************************************** Those high falootin' Custom Sierra types need a good put-down every now and then. Go ahead, call me what you want. I have heard it all before! | ||
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Expert Posts: 1480 Location: Australia | i thought that "suburban" was the american name for wagon. like "estate" is the english word for wagon?? we call them station wagons here... just what i thought.... | ||
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Expert Posts: 1918 Location: Hell's Outhouse - a.k.a. Buckeye, Arizona | Nah - The name "Suburban" actually originates from all the upper-middle class housing sprawl from the cities (originating itself with the post WWII boom). Here, we call those places/neighborhoods Suburbs or just plain 'Burbs. Edited by 1955Coronado 2009-06-05 11:10 PM | ||
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Expert Posts: 1480 Location: Australia | we call them neighbourhoods/ suburbs here also... | ||
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Location: Parts Unknown | suburban61 - 2009-06-06 9:38 PM we call them neighbourhoods/ suburbs here also... *********************************** The "burbs" are a nuevo conceptodad of post-war housing, and while they became neighborhoods in their own right, they were more of an open space sprawling outside of the old established town kind of thing, rather than the traditional street grid and building lots type of development. They were the hallmark of post-war residential building, and they even spawned a unique new commercial style of building as well. The station wagon had never really been very popular until this development came along and the old marketing dept. pitched them as the ultimate cruiser for this new world they had created. And what better name ? The "Suburban", of course ! | ||
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | Brent got most of that info complete; the raison d'etre of the station wagons WAS the post-war family, and its needs/interests in having a multi-use second car, for momma, and, of course, the fact that the family was now residing in the somewhat distant- from-city "suburban developments". The suburbs are really defined by their ranch-style single-floor architecture and custom designed curving streets, as a planned single family development (located miles away from the city's commerce-center). Until post-war, most families never had the need for a second car. Our family grew up in the semi-suburbs of Toledo (designed in the 30's) featuring 2-story houses, but with each house being singularly different in appearance from its neighboring houses, and with single car detached garages. Getting to downtown was a matter of getting on a city bus, where all of the serious shopping was done. This was all pre-mall, but, there were outside strip malls back then. The malls really developed as an adjunct to the residential suburbs, but once they took hold, along with the advent of the second family car, the old downtown commerce was pretty much doomed. The term "burb" probably began, and/or became popular, sometime in the 70's/80's. It's still only somewhat regularly-seen in publication, rather than in common speech usage. | ||
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Regular Posts: 53 Location: Moorhead MN | Here is my new suburban. It is a 1957 Dodge Sierra 2-door. Yes it has a hemi. (P1010264.JPG) Attachments ---------------- P1010264.JPG (86KB - 74 downloads) | ||
d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | Beautiful Dodge Suburban, Fred! That's not its OEM color scheme, is it? The Deluxe scheme would have the roof painted in yellow, too, and the other scheme would have the roof and the fins (only) in the same color, with the middle-and-lower painted in the second color, right? | ||
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Expert Posts: 1508 Location: new york | SWEEEEEET!!!! Fred That is one beauty! A two door wagon to boot! Great car HAPPY MOTORING !!! Victor.... | ||
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