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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2010-02-06 10:43 AM (#208217 - in reply to #208190)
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Go earlier. The 57-61 Rambler wagons really had some good George Jetson styling ! The Americans were always real tubs, and I guess those really stand out from a crowd now too. There is a 60 Invicta wagon dumped in a ravine about 50 miles from me that is just mashed. It kills me to think of such a way-out wagon like that being trashed and dumped. If only someone had tucked it in the barn on 1970. But there it sits, gnawing at me to do SOMETHING to save it.
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JERSEYBOB
Posted 2010-02-10 6:40 PM (#208950 - in reply to #208118)
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Actually, if you go to my album you can see pics of my car. I haven't updated it in a while. Because,.....I haven't updated it in a while. You can check out a lot of members albums at the upper right. click on albums, then go to any members name in the pull down menu.
Turns out the family of Chrysler didnt keep track of individual production numbers for models back in '56. As it was mentioned above, you can find out how many Coronets were made, but not how many 2 dr wagons in red and white were made. At least that's what I've learned. I also was told a long time ago that there were around 2500 suburbans made, but can't back it up. Look Forward (pun intended) to hearing about your ride some more.
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JERSEYBOB
Posted 2010-02-10 6:43 PM (#208952 - in reply to #208156)
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Yeah, cop car rims, black walls, and baby moons will give it attitude. As far as eye candy under the hood, I hope I've got that covered
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d500neil
Posted 2010-02-10 7:28 PM (#208959 - in reply to #208952)
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...is that IT, in your avatar????

I'd try for shorter injector stacks, so that the hood could close.

You might well luck-out, with those Block Hugger headers, on your '56, because they will NOT fit (on the driver's side)
of a Torsion-bar car, as they contact the motor mount, and 'dump' right over the T/bar.




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JERSEYBOB
Posted 2010-02-10 8:13 PM (#208968 - in reply to #208959)
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Yeah thats it. Got ya covered on the stacks. They are just a little too long, and those block huggers are the cheap Ebay kind, but they are coated. So far these, or the the ones I got from HotHeads dont clear the steering box. Gonna have to modify the drivers side. ....and Yes, HotHeads headers are made way better than the cheap ones.
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RTwagon
Posted 2010-02-10 8:14 PM (#208970 - in reply to #208120)
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Hey All, here is #5, with 3 in NY, I've heard of another one here on Long Island, but have not seen it yet. And Bob's makes 4 here in the northeast. Modelbuilder has been to my house twice for measurements of various things for his
realistic model of the wagons he is creating. Most of you have seen my car, came from Ariz., and had it listed in members rides, but can't find it now. Found some pics that a member from England had put on this site from ebay ad. Here are a few pics. Getting some chrome done at this time and installing a newer rear in it. Hope to drive this year. Been sitting in garage for last year/half.



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d500neil
Posted 2010-02-10 8:28 PM (#208977 - in reply to #208970)
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Art, are those OEM chrome fin tops?

They look a lot taller than my recollection, of them.





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JERSEYBOB
Posted 2010-02-10 8:30 PM (#208978 - in reply to #208970)
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Wow, how cool is that. Its kinda weird to see a couple of these things all of a sudden. Interesting paint scheme
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RTwagon
Posted 2010-02-10 8:33 PM (#208979 - in reply to #208977)
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Hi, Yes, just sent them to the chromers. Held on with 3 studs, pass. side a b----, with the fuel fill tunnel.
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RTwagon
Posted 2010-02-10 8:35 PM (#208981 - in reply to #208978)
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Thanks Bob, wish I had your engine in mine.
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RTwagon
Posted 2010-02-10 8:51 PM (#208986 - in reply to #208981)
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Anybody have a trailer hitch or pics of one on a wagon? Looking to put one on to tow some finned boats of same era. Don't really want to fabricate one if I don't have to. Thanks,Art.
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wild440
Posted 2010-02-10 10:06 PM (#208994 - in reply to #189808)
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my wagon had one but some one cut it off, it kinda looks like it was an ugggly install. It was welded to the frame, its going to take alot of grinding to get whats left of it off.
Its cool to see other suburbans out there.
Corey
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wild440
Posted 2010-02-10 10:09 PM (#208995 - in reply to #189808)
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is any one going to any carlisle shows or syracuse nationals
im going to drive the old girl down for the mopar show and the syracuse show
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2010-02-11 12:39 AM (#209007 - in reply to #208995)
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Mine has a tow hitch. I am on the wrong computer to post pix. What do you want to see ? I don't have any of the underside.
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RTwagon
Posted 2010-02-11 7:14 AM (#209024 - in reply to #209007)
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Hi Doc, the underside is what I am looking for. Curious how hitch is attached to frame. Hate to ask, but when you get a chance, or next time it's up on a lift, sure would like to see some pics. BTW, there should be another D500 Sierra wagon in CA. Was sold from a Mopar dealer in South Carolina to someone in CA. I know the people in SC, but never saw the car. Thanks, Art.
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oldwood
Posted 2010-02-11 9:21 AM (#209035 - in reply to #189808)
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Wild440, I caught your post about the Rambler Wagon. I'm currently putting back together a 1962 Classic Wagon to drive to the 75th Anniversary AACA show in Louisville,KY this year. The more unusual, the better I like it. Don't any of you sick O's take that the wrong way. Great looking wagon you have there.
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2010-02-11 12:58 PM (#209095 - in reply to #209024)
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RTwagon - 2010-02-12 4:14 AM

Hi Doc, the underside is what I am looking for. Curious how hitch is attached to frame. Hate to ask, but when you get a chance, or next time it's up on a lift, sure would like to see some pics. BTW, there should be another D500 Sierra wagon in CA. Was sold from a Mopar dealer in South Carolina to someone in CA. I know the people in SC, but never saw the car. Thanks, Art.


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A woman whose name escapes me joined this group some 5-6 years ago and posted some pix of her "new" red and white (with black ?) D-500 Sierra. Could have even been a Custom Sierra ? It was a nice, serviceable car. I think it even had power windows ??? Same one ?

My car was special ordered through Eddy's Garage, Deadwood, SD. Momma wanted a wagon in these color, Pop wanted the D-500 package. Both wanted a Dodge. It was delivered and before the new owners arrived to pick it up, the car was sold off the lot by an unknowing salesman ! Needless to say, new owners were pissed and a second special order car to those specs was rush-ordered and ultimately delivered.

Now, this is where some fun comes in .... This car of ours had Coronet bezels on the lights front and back ... indicating a regular old Sierra. However, (the differences are few between a CS and a Sierra) our car has the CS interior. Much easier to swap a few bezels than seats and all those wagon door and interior panels !!! So, why the Coronet bezels ? The original owner's son, who was present as an adult for both the aborted delivery and the actual delivery of the second car insists the car always wore those type bezels.

So was the aborted delivery car actually a regular Sierra and in the mad rush to get that second car delivered, a CS showed up and the dealer did a quick cosmetic detail with the bezels hoping the angry buyers wouldn't notice ?

The son promises early day photos of the car when great mountains of his kids stuff is removed from his house, so maybe these will give evidence ?

Either way, there is another same colored Sierra or Custom Sierra with the D-500 option possibly out there somewhere !
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2010-02-11 1:02 PM (#209097 - in reply to #209095)
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My car is in winter storage and not very accessible for any sort of photos for a while. I can give it a quick look next time I am out there if that would help ?
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d500neil
Posted 2010-02-11 3:40 PM (#209115 - in reply to #209097)
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Still wanna know: are those large chromed fin caps OEM on the CSierra wagons?



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RTwagon
Posted 2010-02-11 4:45 PM (#209127 - in reply to #209115)
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Sorry, thought I answered that, They are factory, have L & R PART #, and I think I'm the first one to remove them since new. Were not removed with last 2 paint jobs. Color now and before was a blue/white scheme. Original color seems to be a pink/coral and white. Found the pink behind the tailight bezels, and white under fins. I think the angle of pic makes them look bigger, the're about 5" tall at rear. Art.
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2010-02-11 6:33 PM (#209147 - in reply to #209127)
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The bolt-on fins were a last minute addition to all wagons except Plymouth (which got new finned quarter panels for 56). A few early production 56 wagons Chrysler-DeSoto-Dodge managed to get out the door without them, but most cars were built with the bolt-on fins. This was not a case of certain models like Windsor vs. NY'er, or in the Dodge case, a matter of door numbers or which model.
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55coronet440
Posted 2010-02-12 12:37 AM (#209201 - in reply to #189808)
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l'd like to have a '55 Dodge 2 door wagon, & make it into a sedan delivery. l did have a pink & white '58 Rambler wagon back in '73; it was a 4-door tho but was neat. Harold

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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2010-02-12 1:42 AM (#209207 - in reply to #209201)
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I had a 56 D-500 Suburban years ago .... solid grey. I considered doing a delivery conversion on it. Would have been cute as hell, for sure. Someone offered me stupid money for it and I sold it before doing much with the car. Ford got about as close to building a Dodge as they ever did in 56 with their wagon (styling-wise). I would be real happy with a 56 Ford delivery, outside of changing the drivetrain, brakes, and steering ! Man, those were primitive cars ! Pretty good looking, but underpowered, lame braking, and sloppy handling.
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JERSEYBOB
Posted 2010-02-17 8:26 AM (#210045 - in reply to #209095)
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Hey Doc,
That was Carolyn that your thinking of. She hasnt been on the site since October. Here is her album;
http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/photos/photo-main.asp?viewmember=...
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2010-02-17 12:17 PM (#210089 - in reply to #210045)
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Yup! .... that's the car !

I read Carolyn's story a little more carefully and wonder where her car originally came from. Ours was the 2nd
of two D-500 wagons ordered to a specific customer, and after reading her comment about not being able to match
the paint ...... makes me wonder if this might not be car No.1 ???? Our two cars might look like reverse-color twins
from 20 paces in a couple of her shots. No telling how close our car's repaint is to original, although the original owner
claims it to be dead on and the lower cowl looks close. How many D-500 wagons could they have built ???

I do not see a contact link for her in that album. I would be interested in writing to her.

Also, since we are discussing evidence of what constitutes a Custom Sierra vs. a non-Custom Sierra, note the toothed
grille bars, painted headlight rings, Mylar upper interior panels ..... but this car also has the non-fluted Coronet-type
tail light bezels. That makes 3 for 3 of members' CUSTOM wagons with the Coronet rear bezels ! Hmmm ....
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d500neil
Posted 2010-02-17 6:52 PM (#210180 - in reply to #189808)
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Brent, you are differentiating the 4-door Custom Sierra's from Sierras, and then the 2-door Custom Suburbans from 'regular'
Suburbans....


..and, then, the Custom Suburbans just happen to resemble the exteriors of the Custom Sierras!

The interior motifs of the C-Sierra and the C-Suburban would be very different, however.



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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2010-02-17 7:11 PM (#210185 - in reply to #210180)
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Neil,

Have a look at the door panels on the C-Sub and C-Sierra .... same Mylar insert design up top.
Looks like Customs all got the fancy interior, regardless of door count. I presume it would be the
same for the standard series.

Since this whole Custom vs. standard ID issue has been a bit of detective work, as we expand our
evidence base, it is interesting to note patterns.

What do your brochures show for tail light bezels on the Custom wagons, plain or louvered ?????

Any suggestion that the Customs got the fancy steering wheel vs. the standard getting the rubber
unit ?
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d500neil
Posted 2010-02-17 9:10 PM (#210225 - in reply to #189808)
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My 1956 research folder is over 3 1/2" thick (by actual measurement, just now), but it virtually only concerns
itself with D500/optional equipment records-info.

On the back of my "Facts" brochure, where the car models' physical/mechanical info is listed, is this header : "For
Specifications of Dodge Station Wagons, See The Special Dodge Station Wagon Brochure."

Thanks a lot.

Ive got a photocopy of the Dodge Ambulance/Mortician's Brochure, but the only car shown/discussed is the Custom Sierra
4-door/6-passenger model, but, the tail lights (in this photocopy) are indistinct.

If I were betting, I'd bet that the tail light bezels are 'plain', and not the typical fluted-and-winged CRL tail light bezels.

I've also got the 2/86(!) issue of the WPC News magazine, which discusses the 1956 Dodges.

Un-fortunately, the tail lights on the Custom Sierra wagon are cut off on the outside edge on the subject page!

The tail light bezels on the clearly-shown Custom suburban are the VERY-plain, round style.

However, there is a 4-door plain-jane wagon shown, with what appears to be "Suburban" on its quarter panel
(and with the chrome fin-tops on it, too), with the article-author's following photo caption for it :" This station
wagon is a Coronet[???] and may possibly be an 8-passenger version"....[it IS a 9-passenger model; it has the third
seat folded down, in the photos of the car].

The four photos (side/rear(gate-down)/front door (open)/rear door (open).... were taken just outside the factory (like
we've all seen, before) and the door trim panels are VERY-plain looking (just like a 'Coronet' might appear to look).

I'll send these pics to Sir Clive, and he might post them here, and confuse you, too.....






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JERSEYBOB
Posted 2010-02-18 8:11 AM (#210294 - in reply to #210225)
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However, there is a 4-door plain-jane wagon shown, with what appears to be "Suburban" on its quarter panel
(and with the chrome fin-tops on it, too), with the article-author's following photo caption for it :" This station
wagon is a Coronet[???] and may possibly be an 8-passenger version"....[it IS a 9-passenger model; it has the third
seat folded down, in the photos of the car].

??? A 4 door with Suburban script on the quarter ???? It is true however that the wagons are in the Coronet family. Is it possible that 2 drs (Suburbans) were available with a third seat ??? It would be a real chore to get in and out of it. Can someone post a pic of a 55 or 56 with the third seat.
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d500neil
Posted 2010-02-18 5:32 PM (#210387 - in reply to #189808)
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The car, as photographed, might have been a prototype/pilot car, but, it is seen outside the factory, in a completed
condition.

The factory took photos of cars, like this, apparently to document the appearance of the newly built cars, for their
internal historical documentation purposes.

You guys tell me if the images look like "Suburban", or "Sierra"(which is probably what the subject car may be---EXCEPT for
the appearance of its interior, which looks like an entry-level of trim.

Sir Clive will be posting the pics asap.




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Posted 2010-02-18 5:33 PM (#210388 - in reply to #210387)
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d500neil - 2010-02-18 10:32 PM

The car, as photographed, might have been a prototype/pilot car, but, it is seen outside the factory, in a completed
condition.

The factory took photos of cars, like this, apparently to document the appearance of the newly built cars, for their
internal historical documentation purposes.

You guys tell me if the images look like "Suburban", or "Sierra"(which is probably what the subject car may be---EXCEPT for
the appearance of its interior, which looks like an entry-level of trim.

Sir Clive will be posting the pics asap.






The first pic, of a Custom Sierra, may have
the "Suburban" nameplate on it.

The next series of photos, of the Custom Suburban
(2-dr wagon) is self explanatory.

The final set of photos is a mystery to me (prototype/
"pilot" car???) as it has 4-doors, 9-passenger, a
"Suburban" nameplate, and a plain-jain interior(!!!)



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d500neil
Posted 2010-02-18 6:11 PM (#210398 - in reply to #189808)
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..and, oh yeah; this 'Coronet' wagon has the "Custom" (Custom Sierra and Custom Suburban) chrome fins
installed on it.

As it is a complete-stripper, built "in white", it may well be a pilot-car, which was photographed after it left the
hand-built assembly line.

The "Pilots" were built to see how well the new-models could actually be built, in the real-world, so,
absolute model-accuracy was not important, and these cars were driven-around the factory premises
for a while and/or crushed--they were not built with a VIN tag.

I distinctly recall seeing quite a few Dodge Dynasty's "in white" (got some secret-agent-spy-scope
photos of them, inside the plant, too----against tour-orders---during the WPC national meet, in 1990-
ish, at the Belvidere [note correct spelling] IL Assembly Plant....and, we all could walk up to any
of several Dodge Stratus' "in white", parked around the place, which didn't have any VIN's on them) .






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RTwagon
Posted 2010-02-18 6:42 PM (#210423 - in reply to #210398)
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Is that an English wagon brochure? The first page is same as my brochure, but the rest of the photos are not in my brochure? I have color pics of models, but none of those pics. Art.
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d500neil
Posted 2010-02-18 7:15 PM (#210430 - in reply to #210423)
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No; I don't have the 1956 Dodge wagon brochure.

These particular photos were taken from the FEB 86 issue of the monthly WPC Club's magazine, which discussed
the 1956 Dodges (sorta--OK).


Collecting factory and aftermarket literature and photos and collectibles is a major part of our hobby.

For example, there is a 1957 Dodge color and trim 'explanation' mini-brochure, which is very handy
to have, as far as confirming which particular interior and exterior colors/styles were available, together,
but I don't have one for 1956.

It almost seems like 'you' need an Enigma-Machine to decypher the 56 colors and trim, as shown
on the P/T plates.





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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2010-02-18 9:31 PM (#210469 - in reply to #210398)
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..and, oh yeah; this 'Coronet' wagon has the "Custom" (Custom Sierra and Custom Suburban) chrome fins
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Neil,

You have this attributed wrong. The bolt-on fin was standard equipment to ALL wagons, regardless of series.

The exception were some early production cars of random model/trim level, but this is a "when built" issue,
not a series or trim issue.

56 DeSoto and Chrysler wagons are also found on rare occasions without the added fins.
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d500neil
Posted 2010-02-19 3:02 PM (#210566 - in reply to #189808)
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THANK you very much!

That takes care of THAT issue.

Aren't (almost-) absolutes wonderful?

....That's about as good as it gets with our cars...almost-absolutes; "Never-Say-Never"....





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Posted 2010-02-20 4:34 PM (#210734 - in reply to #210430)
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Here is the 56 wagon brochure. I took pics of every page. Note that in the actual photos of cars, the 55 door handles. yet in every artist rendering the 56 door handles. The actual car photos do have 56 sheetmetal and bumpers. Also look at the small interior pics of the Custom interior and standard interior.



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d500neil
Posted 2010-02-20 9:45 PM (#210773 - in reply to #189808)
Subject: Re: 1956 dodge 2 door wagon



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So, the Custom Sierra wagon has "Suburban(?)" on its quarter panel (but no other "Custom" and/or "Sierra" nameplates
on them?---its interior of, and upholstery style of cloth-and-vinyl set it apart from the Sierra wagons.

Only the Custom Sierra and the Custom Suburban have (according to this brochure) the chrome fins on them?

The Suburbans appear to have only "Cordagrain" all-vinyl (H.D.-) interiors in them.

What other categorical conclusions are provided my this brochure?



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wild440
Posted 2010-02-20 10:07 PM (#210776 - in reply to #189808)
Subject: Re: 1956 dodge 2 door wagon



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BROCHURES are just high lighted features of any given car line, it seems that you could order or special order any combo on any model
BACK IN THE DAY.
these brochures were printed and showed up at the dealers before the cars were being produces so I can understand the pics of the previous mod le year
in them.
if all the cars were optioned the same, same trim, engines and labeled the same there would be no need for IBM cards or
trim tags
That's what kinda makes this hobby cool... variety
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2010-02-20 11:25 PM (#210788 - in reply to #210773)
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d500neil - 2010-02-21 6:45 PM

So, the Custom Sierra wagon has "Suburban(?)" on its quarter panel (but no other "Custom" and/or "Sierra" nameplates
on them?---its interior of, and upholstery style of cloth-and-vinyl set it apart from the Sierra wagons.

Only the Custom Sierra and the Custom Suburban have (according to this brochure) the chrome fins on them?

The Suburbans appear to have only "Cordagrain" all-vinyl (H.D.-) interiors in them.

What other categorical conclusions are provided my this brochure?


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Where are you getting the idea that Custom Sierras have "Suburban" emblems on the quarters ? Just
for clarity, there was no "Custom" badge in 56, like there was in later years .... only "Sierra" or "Suburban".
Interested parties had to spot the detail differences to tell them apart.

There is no rhyme or reason to the added fins other than early production didn't get them. Can't explain
the presence (or lack of) in the brochures. Likely a similar reason to the 55 door handles being on some cars.
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JERSEYBOB
Posted 2010-02-21 9:28 AM (#210851 - in reply to #210773)
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Based on the pics posted from outside the factory, I looked very closely at the pictures in the brochure. It is hard to tell, but the Sierra script and Suburban script are on the correct models. You cant really make out all the letters, but you can count them. Also, Suburban has the two "b's" in it that stick up higer than any letters in "Sierra'.
According to the brochure, only cordagrain was available for any wagon no matter what trim level. The first two pages show the Custom models, one actual photo of a Sierra in green over Green, and the rendering of the Custom Suburban in black over aquamarine (exactly my paint scheme). There is a small rendering of interiors for the custom models on their page, and a rendering of standard interiors on that respective page. Clearly you can see the seat inserts and and angled line of the trim on the door panel of the custom interior. As opposed to the straight lines of the interior on the standard models.(like my seats that I posted) Cory posted a pic of the custom interior door panel.
Like Doc mentioned; early models may not have come with chrome fins on the standard model, and that was the intent according to the brochure. Most likey buyers wanted to differentiate between the 55 and 56 models when they bought new, and the hood and bumperettes were not different enough for the public. So they quickly started putting fins on all models. This is probably compounded by the fact that the coupes and sedans got new rear quarters in 56 and the wagons retained the 55 rear quarters.....Oh yeah, and one more thing I picked up on; it says the Suburban was also available as an 8 passenger. Wow, imagine getting in and out of that 3rd seat !!?? I also dont see any CRL type taillights on any wagon in the brochure.
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2010-02-21 3:34 PM (#210889 - in reply to #210851)
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I have photographs of a very nice original 56 NY'er wagon that was built without the fins.
By the logic that base models wagons were intentionally built sans fins, this suggests quite
the opposite and is primarily my supporting evidence that the fins were an early production
add-on rather than being relative to some model or door configuration. Oldtimers way back
in the 70's and 80's al said the no-fin 56 wagons were early-early production. I have also
seen, or seen pix of a DeSoto wagon sans fins. DeSoto only offered a Firedome wagon, and
only in a 4 door, so ..... ?

My parents, like many 50's vintage parents, always had a wagon in the stable. With three
brats to tote, along with hockey gear and cub scout troops, the rear facing WAY-back seat
was always ordered. I NEVER EVER remember even us small-size junior family members
trying to access this seat through a side door, .... only through the lowered back glass or
dropped tailgate. It was easier to get in-out with only the backglass dropped, as you could
use the rear bumper as a step .... some cars even had rubber step pads to avoid slipping off
a wet bumper.

In 56, Dodge called their 3-seat wagons "8 passenger", not "9". These cars are pretty small
compared to the DeSoto-Chrysler that year, or later Dodge wagons.
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JERSEYBOB
Posted 2010-02-21 6:17 PM (#210935 - in reply to #210889)
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I haven't seen a third seat in person on a 56, but in the brochure it faces forward. Look at the diagram for folding the seats. And your right, they never refered to the wagons as 9 passenger, only 6 and 8
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d500neil
Posted 2010-02-22 4:05 PM (#211114 - in reply to #189808)
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Well, that "8 passenger" description is fairly accurate, because, even in the 57+ versions, there AIN'T a lot of
room in that rear "Spectator" seat!

Normally, only two children are shown sitting in it.




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StillOutThere
Posted 2010-02-22 6:12 PM (#211164 - in reply to #189808)
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What about this delivery that was at Hershey a few years ago?   Now before you climb all over me and say someone surely built it, there was a '56 Plymouth sedan delivery in Southern California a dozen years ago before I moved here that belonged to some friends who were in the Nash club.  It was in original condition with just an older repaint.   I was INSIDE that vehicle to inspect it and I can GUARANTEE you it was factory built and not constructed from a two door station wagon.   Although honestly it is too long ago for me to remember any details but I approached it with the same curiosity you would have if you saw it today.   Plyms aren't my thing and I've looked at ... ummm... 14,237 or so cars since then so the details have gone fuzzy on that ONE.



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d500neil
Posted 2010-02-22 7:30 PM (#211186 - in reply to #211164)
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..She's a looker, alright!

That "V" emblem appears to be an aftermarket piece; I've seen them on occasion, but don't have any close-
up images to post of one of them.

The "V" emblem was only used on the 1957 Dodges.

I've seen (and have some photos, taken at the Desert Valley salvage yard, in AZ), of a 56 PLY pick up truck which was
created out of a sedan----others have probably seen it there, too---it used to have "Carnation" logo-paintwork on
its doors.

It looks to be as unified and professionally-done as any 59+ Chubbie El Camino.

GORGEOUS creation work (on the PLY-), which really looked like an OEM production, but, was/is it? Dunno.







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wild440
Posted 2010-02-22 7:34 PM (#211189 - in reply to #211164)
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now that is freeking cool, that throws some ideas into my head I would love to do my wagon like that
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d500neil
Posted 2010-02-22 7:48 PM (#211192 - in reply to #189808)
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If you do, Corey, I suggest that you install dual rear view mirrors on it.

What I did, and highly recommend to anyone who drives his car, with the fender mirrors located in their OEM
positions, is get a large convex rear view mirror and 'weather-strip' glue it to the mirror face.

On the driver's side, you will be amazed at the perfect placement of that mirror, as you will CLEARLY be able to
see objects that are both close, and far away from you, in detail.---just simply a perfect location for that mirror.

Over on the passenger's side, I've never experimented with having a convex mirror be installed there, but, in 'your' sedan-
delivery mode, you would absolutely need to have one be installed there.




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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2010-02-22 7:55 PM (#211194 - in reply to #211164)
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With those skirts it looks like a hearse conversion.

For those of us that experienced the post-war years up through the 60's, you will remember a
whole different mindset for many regarding cars, particularly OLDER cars (contemporarily speaking)
where the newer cars were truly better machines and the generations that survived the Depression
had a practical sense of making a pickup, camper, or tow truck out of aging passenger cars. If
someone told me they had or knew of such a delivery, my first thought would be back to those days
when many simply made a vehicle to fit their need. If the factory did indeed make such a critter, the
special tooling and parts would involve a fair amount of expense and trouble to produce and it would
make no sense that the car would never been offered to the buying public after such expenses were
incurred. Of course, using the term "makes sense" in the same sentence as "factory" often leads down
a dark path ... but I would suspect any such one-off prototype would be somewhat rough in
the critical places and hand made to make it work.

Not too long ago someone had a 56 Dodge ambulance conversion for sale (on eBay?) and I have a
brochure showing different wagon conversions offered for 56 Dodge, so the realm of possibilities is
pretty big that a 1956 vintage conversion-type 56 Dodge could have happened.

A friend owns a 56 Chev delivery that when found in the early 80's still read "Beverly Hills Diaper
Service" with related address and phone number on it ! Like all good Chevy guys, he rodded it and
made it typically stupid, but I can still remember it sitting there in all its blackwall and dog dish hub cap
glory with that lettering down the side.
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