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mogge65 |
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Expert Posts: 1295 Location: Nasco , SWEDEN | I don´t see windsors with big rear windows often. they all have smaller rearwindows! can anyone tell me! Morgan (CH_1959_21_03S.jpg) Attachments ---------------- CH_1959_21_03S.jpg (138KB - 590 downloads) | ||
crvsir |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 967 Location: Canada | I thought just New Yorkers had the big rear windows.... (zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzBeach 015.jpg) Attachments ---------------- zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzBeach 015.jpg (293KB - 407 downloads) | ||
Kenny J. |
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Inactive by user's request Location: Las Vegas, Nevada | Not to hijack the thread, but dang, Troy, your car sits nice. Just right! k. | ||
crvsir |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 967 Location: Canada | Thanks, never planned that way, just got lucky.... | ||
imopar380 |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7207 Location: Victoria, BC, on Vancouver Island, Canada | The large back window was optional on Windsor and Saratoga for 1959, standard on New Yorker and 300-E See the pics below (1959 Saratoga.jpg) (2006_Falun00759chrys.jpg) (5113.jpg) (59 saratoga.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 1959 Saratoga.jpg (66KB - 1323 downloads) 2006_Falun00759chrys.jpg (87KB - 399 downloads) 5113.jpg (125KB - 345 downloads) 59 saratoga.jpg (19KB - 1445 downloads) | ||
mogge65 |
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Expert Posts: 1295 Location: Nasco , SWEDEN | Thanks for those answers and pic´s! how common is the big windowed windsor? some windsors have the golden lion on the doors some on the rear fin, how is that? Morgan Edited by mogge65 2009-11-03 10:34 PM (CH_1959_21_02S.jpg) (CH_1959_21_03S.jpg) Attachments ---------------- CH_1959_21_02S.jpg (115KB - 408 downloads) CH_1959_21_03S.jpg (138KB - 425 downloads) | ||
imopar380 |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7207 Location: Victoria, BC, on Vancouver Island, Canada | Hi Morgan The smaller rear window is probably more common on Windsors, at least in original production. Its hard to say how many would be left, of each type. Here's what I believe is the production sequence for the Golden Lions on the doors / rear quarters : ( have photos of all three of the following types - three distinctly different installations of the lion and gold crowns ) On USA production WINDSORS, the early production cars had the Golden Lion on the rear quarters with three small gold crowns on the front door under the dip. ( this would be like the pale green car in the photo above ) Later production cars had the Golden Lion on the door in place of the 3 small crowns, like the cream / red colored car that has the auto club decal and plate on the trunk lid rear. On Canadian Production cars, there was NO golden lion, and all production had the 3 small gold crowns on the front door under the dip. The black car pictured below is a Canadian Windsor, with only the small gold crowns on the door, and no Lion on the rear. I can't tell on your car whether it has the Golden Lion on the door - Your car is very similar to the other cream / red car in the photograph I submitted above, the one with the auto club plates on the rear. Edited by imopar380 2009-11-04 1:13 AM (CanadaWindsor.jpg) Attachments ---------------- CanadaWindsor.jpg (93KB - 344 downloads) | ||
mogge65 |
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Expert Posts: 1295 Location: Nasco , SWEDEN | on those pic´s my lions are missing. they shall be on the doors of my car! | ||
Windsor59 |
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Expert Posts: 2596 Location: Upplands Väsby, Sweden | Hi Mogge! I like your fine Windsor, looks in great conditions. Have you more pics to shoow us? and if you are from Sweden (see "swedish" barn and a Saab at the pic) | ||
mogge65 |
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Expert Posts: 1295 Location: Nasco , SWEDEN | Yes Joakim, i´m from sweden! It´s a little village called Gudhem just north of falköping. as for conditions, it´s a "DRIVER" no more no less. Thank´s for your reply! i think you have a very nice car! very good restoration! if i ever try to do such a big resto i can allways look at your pic´s when i shall assemble the car back together again:). so whats your next project? | ||
wizard |
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Board Moderator & Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 13054 Location: Southern Sweden - Sturkö island | Welcome home Mogge - I saw that you registred as a user 2007. You're very much welcome with any questions, we'll always try to help a fellow FL' er | ||
mogge65 |
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Expert Posts: 1295 Location: Nasco , SWEDEN | Thank´s wizard! I´ll try to catch up a.s.a.p | ||
Windsor59 |
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Expert Posts: 2596 Location: Upplands Väsby, Sweden | Hi Mogge! Ok you live in Västergötland = Chrysler Land. Maby we meet next summer at some meeting. | ||
mogge65 |
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Expert Posts: 1295 Location: Nasco , SWEDEN | i sure hope to meet you next summer. fact is that i´ve allready had an close look at your car in västerås 2008. i have some pic´s taken there. by the way, Do you have any left overs (parts)? my cousin bought a 1959 windsor 2 dr/ht in lidköping (lansauto.com) white and gold. i think we must start a little Windsor community ha ha ha! i´m going to post pic´s a.s.a.p! i know of a convertible not far from me, i will contact him and ask if he´s interested in joining our troup! | ||
Windsor59 |
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Expert Posts: 2596 Location: Upplands Väsby, Sweden | The Windsor 59 conv only one I know in sweden is a big project and owner is Ulf Fasth in town mullsjö., if it same car you mean? or .... And I have see Lansauto Windsor 59 only at pics it look great in good conditions and that car have same interior as my car have it orginal. So next time we can meet, you has being at Power Big Meet. Take your fine Windsor with you. Last time we was 4 Chrysler 59 (NY, Windsor..). one was from Nederlands Edited by Windsor59 2009-11-04 2:11 PM | ||
mogge65 |
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Expert Posts: 1295 Location: Nasco , SWEDEN | Yeah it´s the same car , the one in mullsjö! never seen it ,just heard a rumor! My brother talked to him once. My brother Ronnie is a huge mopar fan too! He is searching for a 57-58 chrysler or desoto convertible. he´s got a 1959 Dodge custom royal coupe(pic,long time project wich is almost finished), 1958 chrysler 3ooD coupe, 1958 Desoto Firedome. here are a couple of pic´s on my cousins (Conny) 1959 chrysler Windsor . has bin dwelling in a Barn for a couple of years. came from las vegas to sweden 2006/07. Now it´s Running! he is a very happy man. He had a couple of a-bodies (Barracuda, Dart) in the eighties. Then he got lost for about twenty years or so:-() and now he´s home again ;) Edited by mogge65 2009-11-04 4:28 PM (GetAttachment2.jpg) (usa_07_062.jpg) (usa_07_060.jpg) (usa_07_057.jpg) Attachments ---------------- GetAttachment2.jpg (17KB - 372 downloads) usa_07_062.jpg (122KB - 340 downloads) usa_07_060.jpg (111KB - 382 downloads) usa_07_057.jpg (112KB - 384 downloads) | ||
des5758 |
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Veteran Posts: 152 Location: Vara Sweden | Mogge nice Dodge 59 your brother have ther send more photos of this car. And your Windsor 59 is so sweet. (Where have you and your brother found this two so nice cars) | ||
mogge65 |
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Expert Posts: 1295 Location: Nasco , SWEDEN | Hi Kent! you wondered were i bought my car? I tell ya´ We were out sightseeing one day and drove bye a little Town called "Vara" (Sweden) and there right in front of us was two Farmboys (they thougth they were cowboys) called Peter and Kent. They had a gas station backthen with their parents. They also had a garage with plenty of lovely mopar cars. It was there i bought my Windsor and my Brother bought his Dodge. these two gents have sold numerous of cars to innocent people :laugh | ||
mogge65 |
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Expert Posts: 1295 Location: Nasco , SWEDEN | As for the record , i can mention that i am a friend of Michael Homman , The owner of the green/green 1959 Chrysler windsor mentioned earlier in this thread! one of the Best mopar guys out there! He lives in a little town called MOCKFJÄRD. in the middle of sweden! very good welder and body repairer! Edited by mogge65 2009-11-04 6:49 PM | ||
Fins/413 |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 530 Location: Wake Forest, NC | I thought the big windows were only available in the the hardtops 2 or 4 door | ||
mogge65 |
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Expert Posts: 1295 Location: Nasco , SWEDEN | Hi Eric! Do you have a 4 door ht with big rear window? Edited by mogge65 2009-11-04 8:41 PM | ||
1955Coronado |
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Expert Posts: 1918 Location: Hell's Outhouse - a.k.a. Buckeye, Arizona | Well, that confirms it - there's indeed enough FLs in Sweden for everyone and their brothers & cousins. Wonder what the FL ratio is between Sweden & the US nowadays? | ||
1959Dodge |
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Expert Posts: 2244 Location: Yorba Linda, Ca | For 59 Dodge Convertibles, It is "Even Steven" 11 in the US and 11 in Sweden--alto When Kent gets his done, it will be 11 - 12. I think they have us out numbered on most the FL convertibles there, Particualarly the Senior 57-58 Desoto Convertibles and probably 59 Soto ragtops too. Gary | ||
imopar380 |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7207 Location: Victoria, BC, on Vancouver Island, Canada | mogge65 - 2009-11-04 5:40 PM Hi Eric! Do you have a 4 door ht with big rear window? There were no Sky High rear windows on any four doors from 57-59. 1960 was the first year for the large rear windows, which were standard on Phoenix, Polara, New Yorker, Adventurer and Fury four door hardtops, optional on Windsor and Saratoga Sedans and 4 door hardtops, and optional on Belvedere, Matador and Fireflite 4 door hardtops. These large rear windows were used through 1964 on the Dodge 880s but were optional on some, standard on others. By 1962 the only Chrysler with the large rear window was the New Yorker 4 door HT, ( USA built ) and not even optional on the Newport or 300 4 door hardtops, but they were standard on Canadian built 1962 Windsor and Saratoga 4 door hardtops. It can get pretty confusing. | ||
Fins/413 |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 530 Location: Wake Forest, NC | What is a sky high window, mine is certainly larger than a sedan window. | ||
imopar380 |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7207 Location: Victoria, BC, on Vancouver Island, Canada | Fins/413 - 2009-11-05 9:59 AM What is a sky high window, mine is certainly larger than a sedan window. Yes, yours would be, as the sedans in 79-59 used a completely different roof than the four door hardtops, and therefore, different rear windows. For the two door hardtops, 57-59 there were two sizes of rear windows, standard and " Sky-High" ) - the Sky-High window was as high as the top rear of the roof, like the cars pictured above. The standard rear window was more like the four door hardtop rear window on your car. There were NO Sky-High 4 door hardtop rear windows during the 57-59 period. However, starting in 1960, the four door sedans and four door hardtops used the same rooflines, with two different rear windows available - standard and sky-high. Hope this clears it up. See pictures below of 1960-62 standard and sky high rear windows on four door hardtops. Also starting in 1960, all 2 door hardtops received a high rear window, there was no low rear window available as per 1957-1959 2 door hardtops. Edited by imopar380 2009-11-05 2:12 PM (14.jpg) (61-6.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 14.jpg (33KB - 380 downloads) 61-6.jpg (29KB - 350 downloads) | ||
d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | Who manufactured the Sky-High's; PPG? And weren't they actually front windshields, installed on the rear ends??? | ||
imopar380 |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7207 Location: Victoria, BC, on Vancouver Island, Canada | d500neil - 2009-11-05 1:48 PM Who manufactured the Sky-High's; PPG? And weren't they actually front windshields, installed on the rear ends??? Neil, I hope you're joking on that one LOL. | ||
d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | Heh, heh; no......I'd heard that some car(s) had backwards-installed windshields on their rear ends---Olde wives' tail??? That's why this website exists. Disabuse me. | ||
mogge65 |
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Expert Posts: 1295 Location: Nasco , SWEDEN | Hi everybody! I must say that my question about Rear windows certainly paid attention! Thank´s everybody who participated in this thread ! d500neil sure tok 1 first place! but on a forum like this there are no "Dumb" questions................................ and thank´s imopar380 for your input, it cleared all my ques! p.s Tommorow me and my brother shall go for a little sightseeing again and checkout a Black 300D :) i was told it´s a rustbucket but we all know how jealusy can cloud a mans mind! pic´s will be edited later stay tuned......... ;) Edited by mogge65 2009-11-05 10:13 PM | ||
imopar380 |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7207 Location: Victoria, BC, on Vancouver Island, Canada | Neil, you're probably right, that some manufacturer likely used the same glass front and rear at some point in history. One interesting bit of trivia in the same vein is that 1963 Chryslers used the same bumper on front and rear. 1964 Chryslers which were very similar to 63s, used a completely new front bumper, while the rear was the same as that used in 63 on front and rear. Edited by imopar380 2009-11-05 10:53 PM | ||
mogge65 |
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Expert Posts: 1295 Location: Nasco , SWEDEN | I think there may be the same issue on my chrysler 59. upper bumpers are x-treme alike front and rear! | ||
imopar380 |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7207 Location: Victoria, BC, on Vancouver Island, Canada | mogge65 - 2009-11-06 7:44 AM I think there may be the same issue on my chrysler 59. upper bumpers are x-treme alike front and rear! They aren't the same, but they are similar. | ||
Windsor59 |
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Expert Posts: 2596 Location: Upplands Väsby, Sweden | imopar380 - 2009-11-06 11:36 AM mogge65 - 2009-11-06 7:44 AM I think there may be the same issue on my chrysler 59. upper bumpers are x-treme alike front and rear! They aren't the same, but they are similar. And the rear under bumber at Chrysler 59 is not same as DeSoto 59. The Desoto is 1-2 inch shorter at the side. | ||
slimwhitman |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 988 Location: Kansas City, Kansas | imopar380 - 2009-11-05 11:10 AM There were no Sky High rear windows on any four doors from 57-59. 1960 was the first year for the large rear windows, which were standard on Phoenix, Polara, New Yorker, Adventurer and Fury four door hardtops, optional on Windsor and Saratoga Sedans and 4 door hardtops, and optional on Belvedere, Matador and Fireflite 4 door hardtops. These large rear windows were used through 1964 on the Dodge 880s but were optional on some, standard on others. By 1962 the only Chrysler with the large rear window was the New Yorker 4 door HT, ( USA built ) and not even optional on the Newport or 300 4 door hardtops, but they were standard on Canadian built 1962 Windsor and Saratoga 4 door hardtops. It can get pretty confusing. Minor correction: For U.S. built 1960 DeSotos, all 4dr Sedan and 4dr Hardtop Adventurers got the large rear window. All 4dr Sedan and 4dr Hardtop Fireflites got the smaller back window. It was not an option for the Fireflite. If you see an '60 Adventurer with the small window, it was a Canadian model. All Canadian 4dr Sedan Adventurers have the small back window. Edited by slimwhitman 2009-11-07 9:05 AM | ||
imopar380 |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7207 Location: Victoria, BC, on Vancouver Island, Canada | slimwhitman - 2009-11-06 6:11 PM imopar380 - 2009-11-05 11:10 AM There were no Sky High rear windows on any four doors from 57-59. 1960 was the first year for the large rear windows, which were standard on Phoenix, Polara, New Yorker, Adventurer and Fury four door hardtops, optional on Windsor and Saratoga Sedans and 4 door hardtops, and optional on Belvedere, Matador and Fireflite 4 door hardtops. These large rear windows were used through 1964 on the Dodge 880s but were optional on some, standard on others. By 1962 the only Chrysler with the large rear window was the New Yorker 4 door HT, ( USA built ) and not even optional on the Newport or 300 4 door hardtops, but they were standard on Canadian built 1962 Windsor and Saratoga 4 door hardtops. It can get pretty confusing. Minor correction: For U.S. built 1960 DeSotos, all 4dr Sedan and 4dr Hardtop Adventurers got the large rear window. All 4dr Sedan and 4dr Hardtop Fireflites got the smaller back window. It was not an option for the Fireflite. If you see an '60 Adventurer with the small window, if was a Canadian model. All Canadian 4dr Sedan Adventurers have the small back window. Slim thanks for the correction. | ||
bleker |
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Regular Posts: 52 Location: nasco, falkoping | hi mogge and everybody else. I'm new here on forwardlook, so please be gentle whit me hehehe..... I se my car in 3 pic's on this thred, yes that one one trailer from(lansauto). It's a lovely ride thats need a smaller restauration. | ||
mogge65 |
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Expert Posts: 1295 Location: Nasco , SWEDEN | Welcome cousin! remember not to use word like chebby, mustwang and so on.........................:D | ||
Windsor59 |
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Expert Posts: 2596 Location: Upplands Väsby, Sweden | Welcome Conny! You have a graet Windsor 59, I talking with you fore 1 1/2 years ago abouth your new import Windsor. Have you any new pics to shoow us? Edited by Windsor59 2009-11-11 3:20 AM | ||
MoparLasse |
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Veteran Posts: 108 Location: North of Sweden | Yes! Another 1959 Chrysler! Welcome Conny! Pictures? Lasse | ||
bleker |
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Regular Posts: 52 Location: nasco, falkoping | thx everyone. there will be more pic's to come, I have mail'it to "mogge65". I dont now how to upload pic's. | ||
wizard |
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Board Moderator & Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 13054 Location: Southern Sweden - Sturkö island | Welcome home Conny! | ||
Fins/413 |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 530 Location: Wake Forest, NC | Hot dog the 59's seem to be under represented. | ||
bleker |
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Regular Posts: 52 Location: nasco, falkoping | try some photos (1.JPG) (2.JPG) (3.JPG) (4.JPG) (5.JPG) (6.JPG) (7.JPG) Attachments ---------------- 1.JPG (298KB - 359 downloads) 2.JPG (337KB - 343 downloads) 3.JPG (363KB - 317 downloads) 4.JPG (370KB - 372 downloads) 5.JPG (419KB - 325 downloads) 6.JPG (300KB - 338 downloads) 7.JPG (260KB - 356 downloads) | ||
mogge65 |
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Expert Posts: 1295 Location: Nasco , SWEDEN | BEAUTYFUL! but Conny, you shouldn´t go so near when you take pic´s, Don´t forget that our cars is twentyfoters :D | ||
Fins/413 |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 530 Location: Wake Forest, NC | Two, that's just not right. | ||
bleker |
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Regular Posts: 52 Location: nasco, falkoping | ok morgan, shall think about that next time. big car's no close up. | ||
mogge65 |
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Expert Posts: 1295 Location: Nasco , SWEDEN | Here is Mats hommans and that makes it a triple big windowed windsors! i wonder how many 1959 windsors coupe manufactured? Edited by mogge65 2009-11-13 2:15 AM (GetAttachment3.jpg) (GetAttachment.jpg) (GetAttachment2.jpg) (Ch_1959_17_01S.jpg) (Ch_1959_17_02S.jpg) (CH_1959_17S.jpg) Attachments ---------------- GetAttachment3.jpg (78KB - 360 downloads) GetAttachment.jpg (75KB - 350 downloads) GetAttachment2.jpg (41KB - 356 downloads) Ch_1959_17_01S.jpg (91KB - 310 downloads) Ch_1959_17_02S.jpg (94KB - 373 downloads) CH_1959_17S.jpg (63KB - 1406 downloads) | ||
christine-lover |
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Expert Posts: 2996 Location: Sept. 1958 | mogge65 - 2009-11-13 2:06 AM i wonder how many 1959 windsors coupe manufactured? 6,775 Windsor 2 DR HTs were produced. | ||
Windsor59 |
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Expert Posts: 2596 Location: Upplands Väsby, Sweden | I must say after all pics, what fun that owners of Chrysler in 1959, found each other here. 59 model is so beautiful. I've collected or saved on the images of the Chrysler 59 (Windsor, Saratoga, New Yorker, E 300), I will probably be posting some pictures during the 59 Chrysler album pictures. The rest of you might have some pictures? that others would like to take some out, type reference? What do you think? | ||
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