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raffaplymouth

Posted 2012-04-09 5:03 AM (#316010 - in reply to #201733)
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I success to scan and enlarge the photos ...when Lee was found in 1994

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Posted 2012-04-09 6:40 AM (#316017 - in reply to #201733)
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It's been a long road, but the results that are showing now are definitely making this project worthwhile. I love before and after pics, especially after the kind of work like you've done here.

Keep up the good work.

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Posted 2012-04-09 7:55 AM (#316023 - in reply to #316004)
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raffaplymouth - 2012-04-09 1:34 AM

Thank you Lee , look like not different from 1994 pictures ... i see a lot of old car and truck ... there are no major changes in 20 years ... , i put 2 red arrows , let me know if the right location where you find is the lower or the upper ??

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Upper red arrow maybe more towards the tail of it.
Yes it did not change much because the guy rarely sold anything.
I bet if you zoom in really tight on google maps you will be able to find some of the other cars in the picture still in place.

The red barn in the background of this shot is the barn between the two arrows in the overhead shot

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Posted 2012-04-09 1:06 PM (#316062 - in reply to #201733)
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Wow, Raffael and Lee - those old photos are enough to make a person cry!

To tell you the truth, I also was curious about how this wonderful, old car got in such a sorry state, but was afraid to ask!

This thread is amazing in so many ways.

You guys should get together and write an article (or small book!) about this car, "from show room condition to ruin and back" - a very interesting history indeed.

High praise to all involved in saving this great car!

Edited by FIN ME 2012-04-09 1:07 PM

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Posted 2012-04-09 1:23 PM (#316066 - in reply to #201733)
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I just got off the phone with Marilyn Schmidt and she is still very familiar with the car and loves to talk about it, She is also very happy to hear that it is getting restored. She was surprised that I called because just two weeks ago she was talking to the owner of the junkyard that took off the dual fours about when her husband castrated her by putting on a single four barrel manifold. She wonder what had happened to the car. I asked her about pictures and she told me that her house burned to the ground a few years back but just before it did she gave the old photo albums to her daughter so there should be at least one picture of it in the albums? She still really loves the car! I also asked her about doing a videotaped interview with her about her remembrances of the car and she said she would like to think about it. I would also like to interview the owner of the junkyard that took off the dual fours at the same time. She has my phone number and will get with her daughter to see about the picture and then call me back.

I will let you know what I hear!

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Posted 2012-04-09 3:20 PM (#316089 - in reply to #316066)
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roadkillontheweb - 2012-04-09 7:23 PM I just got off the phone with Marilyn Schmidt and she is still very familiar with the car and loves to talk about it, She is also very happy to hear that it is getting restored. She was surprised that I called because just two weeks ago she was talking to the owner of the junkyard that took off the dual fours about when her husband castrated her by putting on a single four barrel manifold. She wonder what had happened to the car. I asked her about pictures and she told me that her house burned to the ground a few years back but just before it did she gave the old photo albums to her daughter so there should be at least one picture of it in the albums? She still really loves the car! I also asked her about doing a videotaped interview with her about her remembrances of the car and she said she would like to think about it. I would also like to interview the owner of the junkyard that took off the dual fours at the same time. She has my phone number and will get with her daughter to see about the picture and then call me back. I will let you know what I hear!

Amazing! , i'm very happy for this! If understand it.. she and her husband bought the car from Conkey in 1962, and sold at Roy Bennet in 1964 , would be nice to find some photos ,

they live close to the junk ? i don't understand the Junkyard that remove the dual four ....

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Posted 2012-04-09 3:21 PM (#316090 - in reply to #201733)
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Raffa, I forget: do you have the IBM card-copy on this car?

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Posted 2012-04-09 3:33 PM (#316094 - in reply to #316090)
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d500neil - 2012-04-09 9:21 PM Raffa, I forget: do you have the IBM card-copy on this car?

Ibm card ?? what is this ?? i don't know ..

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Posted 2012-04-09 3:43 PM (#316096 - in reply to #316094)
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Raffa, these is a whole-long discussion about the IBM build-card copies on the two 'Sticky' messages, at the top of
our "Fender Tag Decoding" message board, but, to cut-to-the-chase-scene, here is the direct link to the Historical
Society's request-information page on the Walter P. Chrysler Museum's website:

http://wpchryslermuseum.org/page.aspx?pid=400

Among other things, the IBM card will be your car's Pedigree and Birth Certificate, and which will document its construction
and options and paint/trim type/colors, etcetcetc...

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Posted 2012-04-09 3:50 PM (#316097 - in reply to #316089)
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raffaplymouth - 2012-04-09 2:20 PM

Amazing! , i'm very happy for this! If understand it.. she and her husband bought the car from Conkey in 1962, and sold at Roy Bennet in 1964 , would be nice to find some photos ,

they live close to the junk ? i don't understand the Junkyard that remove the dual four ....

Yes her and her husband bought the car from Conkey in 62 at the Chrysler Dealership in Fairfield IA. She remembers the car very well and is still very fond of it. The first time I called her about it years ago I asked her if she remembered the car. She said that if she met a man that she loved as much as she loved that car she would get married again. She even had more information about the day they went to get the car so I asked to do a video interview with her to document it. many more stories than I can type out.

Her husband that was the supervisor of city streets in Ottumwa Iowa where they lived. After she had the car for a little while he heard she was racing another car down by the John Deere plant and almost got in a wreck so he got mad. He took the car to a junkyard in town and had them take the dual fours off and put on a single four barrel carb to slow her down. She called it (and still does) public castration. She said for years she would drive by the shop and see the intake carbs and air cleaners sitting in the front window of his shop.

Jump forward to 2 weeks ago, she was talking to the guy that owned the shop that took her dual carbs off and they were discussing the day that her husband took the car to his shop to slow her down. This is a different yard than the one it spent almost 30 years in.

She also mentioned that shortly after they sold the car it was in a wreck.

Edited by roadkillontheweb 2012-04-09 3:58 PM

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Posted 2012-04-09 3:54 PM (#316099 - in reply to #316090)
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d500neil - 2012-04-09 2:21 PM

Raffa, I forget: do you have the IBM card-copy on this car?

Yes he has the IBM card.
I did the research through Chrysler historical and I sent it to him with the restoration manual.

Raffy
The IBM card is the photocopy of the ticket with all the holes punched in it that tells about the car when it left the factory. It gives the serial number, paint and option codes build and ship dates and even has a dealer code that tells that the car shipped to Hollywood Perkins dealership in Wilmington Delaware from the facctory

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Posted 2012-04-09 4:39 PM (#316104 - in reply to #316097)
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Lee, now I understand, but i don't understand the reason why 'he did remove the dual quad .. it was dangerous? too fast? therefore the other owners drive with single quad ??

I realized that this car should not have many miles, traveled only 7-8 years, yesterday I removed the front lower control arm ,the ball joint and bushung and were in good condition, usually have much play , also rear ring and pinion look like good

i'm curious if Marylin will found some pictures

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Posted 2012-04-09 4:40 PM (#316105 - in reply to #316099)
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d500neil - 2012-04-09 2:21 PM Raffa, I forget: do you have the IBM card-copy on this car?

Yes he has the IBM card. I did the research through Chrysler historical and I sent it to him with the restoration manual. Raffy The IBM card is the photocopy of the ticket with all the holes punched in it that tells about the car when it left the factory. It gives the serial number, paint and option codes build and ship dates and even has a dealer code that tells that the car shipped to Hollywood Perkins dealership in Wilmington Delaware from the facctory

yes , i have this

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Posted 2012-04-09 4:49 PM (#316107 - in reply to #316062)
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FIN ME - 2012-04-09 7:06 PM

Wow, Raffael and Lee - those old photos are enough to make a person cry! To tell you the truth, I also was curious about how this wonderful, old car got in such a sorry state, but was afraid to ask!

This thread is amazing in so many ways. You guys should get together and write an article (or small book!) about this car, "from show room condition to ruin and back" - a very interesting history indeed. High praise to all involved in saving this great car! :)

i am moved by what Lee is doing, I wnt him to be the first to drive this car when finished restoration

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Posted 2012-04-09 5:00 PM (#316110 - in reply to #201733)
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Cool to see a part of the car's history being revealed like this.

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Posted 2012-04-09 6:22 PM (#316118 - in reply to #316107)
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FIN ME - 2012-04-09 7:06 PM

Wow, Raffael and Lee - those old photos are enough to make a person cry! To tell you the truth, I also was curious about how this wonderful, old car got in such a sorry state, but was afraid to ask!

This thread is amazing in so many ways. You guys should get together and write an article (or small book!) about this car, "from show room condition to ruin and back" - a very interesting history indeed. High praise to all involved in saving this great car! :)

i am moved by what Lee is doing, I wnt him to be the first to drive this car when finished restoration

I would be very honored, not sure if I will be able to make it there in time but if I ever do make it to Italy I will definitely come take it for a spin.

When I got home this afternoon after work I found that my wife had been cleaning out under our bed and she found something in a box.
It is a NOS set of trunk hinges for the 57. If you have not restored yours yet they are yours for postage.

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Posted 2012-04-09 6:25 PM (#316120 - in reply to #316118)
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Do you have a set of fender birds yet?

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Posted 2012-04-09 6:33 PM (#316122 - in reply to #316120)
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Raffy
I think if you sent a letter to Marilyn with a current picture of the car and a description of what you are doing and a thank you note for the information on the cars history that she has shared I think it would help convince her to share more stories and maybe on video? It sure would not hurt!

If you can do this I will send you her mailing address by PM. I think she would love to hear from you and know that her old car she loved so much is in such good hands and that you appreciate the stories of the cars history that she is sharing.

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Posted 2012-04-10 11:54 AM (#316220 - in reply to #316097)
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...After she had the car for a little while he heard she was racing another car down by the John Deere plant and almost got in a wreck so he got mad. He took the car to a junkyard in town and had them take the dual fours off and put on a single four barrel carb to slow her down. She called it (and still does) public castration. She said for years she would drive by the shop and see the intake carbs and air cleaners sitting in the front window of his shop...

Marilyn is a girl after my own heart...apparently her hubby was a party pooper... LOL

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Posted 2012-04-10 12:13 PM (#316222 - in reply to #201733)
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raffaplymouth - 2012-04-09 4:49 PM
...i am moved by what Lee is doing...

Yes, Raffael, as we all know, there are guys out there that will sell a classic for what they can get and then forget all about the car as they take the money and run.

I agree with you...Lee exhibits the enthusiasm, inquisitive drive, and generous nature that is the heart of the old car hobby. A real class act.

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Posted 2012-04-10 4:15 PM (#316259 - in reply to #316122)
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roadkillontheweb - 2012-04-10 12:33 AM Raffy I think if you sent a letter to Marilyn with a current picture of the car and a description of what you are doing and a thank you note for the information on the cars history that she has shared I think it would help convince her to share more stories and maybe on video? It sure would not hurt! If you can do this I will send you her mailing address by PM. I think she would love to hear from you and know that her old car she loved so much is in such good hands and that you appreciate the stories of the cars history that she is sharing.

Sure , Lee , let me know the mailing adress of Marylin, i will sent a letters ..for trunk hinge i will check tomorrow , i think my hinge is good but i dont remember , for side bird i have 2 sets ... thanks for all

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Posted 2012-04-11 1:37 AM (#316341 - in reply to #201733)
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This is another box reveived from Antonello , i think is partial miscellaneus disassembly in Usa from Lee Exline ...could be his handwriting? Lee let us know

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Posted 2012-04-11 1:41 AM (#316343 - in reply to #201733)
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1 hour to remove a drum, even with the extractor, from 1965 was not removed, the last to use the brakes was Roy Bennet !!

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Posted 2012-04-11 6:42 AM (#316360 - in reply to #316341)
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raffaplymouth - 2012-04-11 12:37 AM

This is another box reveived from Antonello , i think is partial miscellaneus disassembly in Usa from Lee Exline ...could be his handwriting? Lee let us know

Yes those are my baggies and hand written index cars from when I took off the front clip.

PM sent with contact info for Marilyn

Edited by roadkillontheweb 2012-04-11 7:01 AM

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Posted 2012-04-11 10:08 AM (#316383 - in reply to #201733)
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On my wagon I remember the first time I work on the rear brakes, it takes 3 days wait to have that drum out, and one day for the other !!
Good to see the story of the car coming via the forum !!!

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Posted 2012-04-11 3:16 PM (#316433 - in reply to #316360)
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raffaplymouth - 2012-04-11 12:37 AM This is another box reveived from Antonello , i think is partial miscellaneus disassembly in Usa from Lee Exline ...could be his handwriting? Lee let us know

Yes those are my baggies and hand written index cars from when I took off the front clip. PM sent with contact info for Marilyn

Thank you , i have received , i will wrote ASAP

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Posted 2012-04-11 3:29 PM (#316434 - in reply to #316383)
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mangodart - 2012-04-11 4:08 PM On my wagon I remember the first time I work on the rear brakes, it takes 3 days wait to have that drum out, and one day for the other !! Good to see the story of the car coming via the forum !!! :cool:

also in my first car 1960 Plymouth, 10 years ago for remove the rear drums without extractor , i have spend 2 days !!

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Posted 2012-04-12 3:30 PM (#316568 - in reply to #201733)
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Guys , this is the list of parts missing ( for now ) if someone have this parts for sale let me know

1) engine radiator

2) transmission cable

3) park brake cable

4) hood ornament + plastic

5) parking light lens

6) tail light lens

7) gas tank sending unit

8) steering wheel (i have but is broken)

i know that lens and ornament is available from George Laurie , but if someone have ....

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Posted 2012-04-12 5:45 PM (#316595 - in reply to #201733)
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raffaele,

there is a hood ornament on ebay, dont know if the adventurer one is different though,

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/400221668493?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_tr...

there are a lot of parts available here but i cannot get a reply on email

http://www.kpusabil.se/indexeng.html

Paul.

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Posted 2012-04-12 6:18 PM (#316603 - in reply to #201733)
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That hood ornament is FireSWEEP only...

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Posted 2012-04-12 6:32 PM (#316606 - in reply to #201733)
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Ed,

whats the difference on the ornament?

Paul.

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Posted 2012-04-13 5:04 AM (#316654 - in reply to #316568)
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raffaplymouth - 2012-04-12 3:30 PM

5) parking light lens

6) tail light lens

Hi Raffaele

I know an adress in sweden for plastic lenses.
This are repros, but better than nothing.

http://www.kpusabil.se/

I could purcase a set for you during my holidays :-)
The George Laurie lens is from this swedish manufacturer (as I know)

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Posted 2012-04-13 7:19 AM (#316659 - in reply to #201733)
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Springsweptwing, for the Firesweep, the unit is one piece, while for the other series, there is a center section with two outer wings. The Sweep version is also slightly smaller.

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Posted 2012-04-13 10:41 AM (#316675 - in reply to #201733)
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Raffael -

This fellow used to have a hood ornament - scott1990@cfl.rr.com - I think he could e-mail you a photo if he still has it, and to be sure that it is correct for an Adventurer. He lives in Florida, and is a nice guy.

I can't recall what it looked like exactly, but it wasn't like the one on my Firesweep. Ed might remember?

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Posted 2012-04-13 12:02 PM (#316684 - in reply to #201733)
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I do have a pair of NOS park lences for 57

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Posted 2012-04-13 3:14 PM (#316705 - in reply to #316595)
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springsweptwing - 2012-04-12 11:45 PM raffaele, there is a hood ornament on ebay, dont know if the adventurer one is different though, http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/400221668493?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&... there are a lot of parts available here but i cannot get a reply on email http://www.kpusabil.se/indexeng.html Paul.

Thanks , my hood ornament is in 3 piece , i think is correct , need only center plastic parts

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Posted 2012-04-13 3:17 PM (#316708 - in reply to #316654)
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raffaplymouth - 2012-04-12 3:30 PM

5) parking light lens

6) tail light lens

Hi Raffaele I know an adress in sweden for plastic lenses. This are repros, but better than nothing.

http://www.kpusabil.se/ I could purcase a set for you during my holidays :-) The George Laurie lens is from this swedish manufacturer (as I know) /ToM

i had contact this KPusabil but i dont receveid answer .. also for winshield seal

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Posted 2012-04-13 3:19 PM (#316711 - in reply to #316684)
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Adventurer 60 - 2012-04-13 6:02 PM I do have a pair of NOS park lences for 57

yolu sell this ??

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Posted 2012-04-13 3:31 PM (#316713 - in reply to #201733)
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now i working on disassembly front sunspension ... very rust ... yesterday i have disassembly all power seats mechanism ,tomorrow i will remove the differential from the axle ...the next week i will check the engine , the block that Lee have found for 100 usd after buying the car

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Posted 2012-04-13 4:26 PM (#316720 - in reply to #316711)
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raffaplymouth - 2012-04-13 3:19 PM

Adventurer 60 - 2012-04-13 6:02 PM I do have a pair of NOS park lences for 57

yolu sell this ??

Yes. Make me reasonable offer via PM

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Posted 2012-04-13 5:51 PM (#316735 - in reply to #316684)
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Adventurer 60 - 2012-04-13 11:02 AM

I do have a pair of NOS park lences for 57

It has been a while since I held a pair in my hand but isn't that two left hand lenses in the picture?

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Posted 2012-04-14 7:57 AM (#316811 - in reply to #201733)
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Both look like driver's side lenses to me.

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Posted 2012-04-14 3:33 PM (#316867 - in reply to #201733)
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Posted 2012-04-14 3:48 PM (#316868 - in reply to #201733)
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Posted 2012-04-14 3:54 PM (#316869 - in reply to #201733)
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Posted 2012-04-14 3:59 PM (#316870 - in reply to #316595)
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this is my hood ornament , i think is correct , need rechrome center , and need center lens , i have found also a good used parking lens ... but i would buy a new set ...

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Posted 2012-04-14 4:12 PM (#316871 - in reply to #316089)
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this is the good used Parking light , i have found Today !! , i cleaned with soap .... i do not even know the parts that I have .. I should be doing inventory

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d500neil

Posted 2012-04-14 4:18 PM (#316872 - in reply to #316871)
Subject: Re: 1957 Desoto Adventurer Convertible

Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil!

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Raffie, what is the axle ratio that is stamped onto the 'flat' area on what would be the passenger's side of the carrier housing?

You may have to scrape that area a bit, to reveal that ratio.

raffaplymouth

Posted 2012-04-14 4:24 PM (#316874 - in reply to #201733)
Subject: Re: 1957 Desoto Adventurer Convertible

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this is the Original Engine S26A , from Lee Exline , Barn find

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Posted 2012-04-14 4:27 PM (#316876 - in reply to #201733)
Subject: Re: 1957 Desoto Adventurer Convertible

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