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Location: Pau, S-W France | bshopov - 2010-03-12 9:23 PM
Is there electric windows?
Yes, at front, but not original ! My friend put the 2 switches under the radio.
bshopov - 2010-03-12 9:23 PMTell me what is your advice about restoration of the car
From where I must start the restoration.
My friend bought the car (running !) in 1996 because he wanted "parts" for his '59 Coronet... But after a while he decided to not part the car and put it in storage (he hadn't the time to restore). He started the restoration 10 years later and made a "frame off" restoration, not because the car needs it but because he wanted to do a complete resto..
A complete restoration needs a lot of time and .. money !!
d500neil - 2010-03-13 12:01 AM
That 59 Kingsway looks like it's got 1958 Custom Royal upholstery in it; that's good durable material.
Remember that my friend owns also the '58 blue Custom Royal convertible and he loves the upholstery  !!! So he bought the same material from SMS, problem he had to wait 1 1/2 year to get it !!!!
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Location: Montreal, Canada | bshopov - 2010-03-13 11:37 AM
Can anyone show me the original upholstery for Dodge KIngsway 59 for front doors and rear doors
Your car had the same interior as a 1959 Plymouth Fury sedan. So you could use that as a model.
For example:
http://59sportfury.net/showcase/walker.html |
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Can you tell me is Plymouth Savoy luxury model for 59 or Fury is more luxury model |
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Location: Vancouver, BC | bshopov - 2010-03-13 10:21 AM
Thank you,
Can you tell me is Plymouth Savoy luxury model for 59 or Fury is more luxury model
From bottom (cheap) to top (luxury) -
Savoy (Kingsway)
Belvedere (Kingsway Deluxe)
Fury (Kingsway Custom)
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Location: Vancouver, BC | d500neil - 2010-01-20 1:49 PM
Bogdan, it is a bummer that your Paint/Trim plate, on the firewall is corroded.
The factory probably has no build records still existing on your car.
What you might/should try to do is check up-behind your car's glovebox to see if the factory's Broadcast Sheet might
still be masking-taped there.
Also, depending upon your car's floor covering's present condition, you might try removing the car's front seat and carefully
check under the floor covering, and/or on top of the floor pan, itself, to see if another Broadcast Sheet might have been folded-up
and thrown down onto the floor pan, right before the floor covering was installed, on the assembly line.
You might even check under the front & rear seats to see if there is any factory 'literature' folded up, under there, too.
Doesn't hurt to look there, and you might be pleasantly surprised with what you may find hidden in those areas!
No harm in writing Chrysler Historical and asking. As the build records were microfilmed in VIN order by assembly plant they rarely 'lost' anything. Judging by the experiences of non-North American owners, it seems Chrysler did not bother to keep the records of the Wyoming Avenue export plant, or for cars shipped CKD prior to Wyoming Avenue turning out export product.
This particular Kingsway appears to have been assembled in North America (Lynch Road) and shipped complete. So, CH might have the record.
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| I'm a big fan of classic american cars. Speccialy the fly fenders. My favourite model year is 1959. so for the first time I see Buick 59 in my town I was around 11 years old. So I fall in love in these cars. I spend money and purchased this Dodge 59, but I realized that the car which made I falling in love in fly fenders is live. I'm very happy that my kid dream is live. My hapiness was full when I meet the owner and he told me that want to sell this Buick 59. now I spend money and I hope my dream will come true.
But I love the Dodge and I have a big interest of General Motors history and Chrysler history around 1955-1965.
So you're very helpfull to me with information in this forum |
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| So can anyone tell me what was difference between Fury, Belvedere and Savoy in 1959 model year
Outside I see that Fury has more trims than Belvedere - the trim of front fenders are longer and there will be trim on the trunk - strange that the cheaper model has more trims than the more luxury Belvedere. And Savoy has only one chrom side trim on the left and right |
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| What is the difference between Dodge Kingsway and Dodge Kingsway Custom |
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Location: Pau, S-W France | The 2dr H/T Kingsway Custom (the only one i know in France) is for sale ... http://www.anciennes.net/annonce/201126798-Ventes-Auto-DODGE-kingsw...
About differences there is a lot of them, the K. Custom is the top (only V8), in the midle you've the K. Deluxe and the entry level is the Kingsway . I have a copy (in B&W) of the '59 Kingsway french catalog, i'll post them later. |
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Location: Pau, S-W France | Here is the 8 pages catalog (i put thumbnails so enlarge them ...)
Cover :
Page 2 / 3 : Kingsway Custom 5 models : 4dr sedan , 2 and 4 dr "faux cabriolet" = H/T model . 2 wagons Sport Suburban (6 & 9 pass)
 
Page 4/5 : Kingsway Deluxe : 8 models : 2 sedans, 1 2dr H/T, 3 wagons "Custom Suburban" (6 & 9 pass 4dr , 6 pass 2dr)
 
Page 6 : only one page for the Kingsway (base model) !! No H/T but 2 wagons (Suburban)
Page 7 : Kingsway Lancer : the top trim level only in convertible and 2dr H/T .. This is the export version of the Sport Fury. DeSoto export named this model Diplomat Adventurer.
Page 8 : specifications.
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Location: Vancouver, BC | The complete line-up, bottom to top - Plymouth-Dodge Canada-Dodge export-DeSoto export
L (Low) :
Savoy - Regent - Kingsway - Diplomat
M (Medium) :
Belvedere - Mayfair - Kingsway Deluxe - Diplomat Deluxe
H (High) :
Fury - Viscount - Kingsway Custom - Diplomat Custom
P (Premium) :
Sport Fury - (none) - Kingsway Lancer - Diplomat Adventurer
Interiors were just like the exterior trim - plainest on Savoy, et al. and fanciest on the Sport Fury, et al. Will get the interior photos scanned sometime today and post them.
The Low series interior was the plainest with no cigar lighter, no glove box lock, one sun visor, no arm rests in the rear and rubber carpet for the floor. Many years the steering wheel had no horn ring - just a button in the centre of the wheel. The lack of rear arm rests was common on Plymouth and Dodge models until the adoption of the new safety interior door releases in 1966-67, the ones that look like seat belt releases.
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Location: Plymouth Spaceport | ronbo97 - 2010-01-02 6:19 PM
Here's a pic:
The export models are very interesting...its half plymouth,half dodge! |
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| The export Dodge i very interesting, I find De soto Diplomat - Export, If you like I can post photos. De Soto is 1958 model year
Thank you for french catalog of Kingsway but the catalog confuse me, Because my VIN show that the car was 6 cylinder, but when i see exterior trim I think that my car is Kingsway Custom, but Custom V8 only
So now I thinking what exactly model is my car |
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Location: Pau, S-W France | bshopov - 2010-03-15 11:52 PM
Because my VIN show that the car was 6 cylinder, but when i see exterior trim I think that my car is Kingsway Custom, but Custom V8 only
The Kingsway Custom is also available in 6 , see the small drawings of each body, the text says "6 or V8" (except the 2 dr HT, V8 only) |
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| Thank you for information Phil
Now I can tell that I have Dodge Kingsway Custom 59
Do you have photos of Kingsway Custom - I want to see how must look like my car in perfect condition. also i want to see interior of Dodge Kingswat Custom, I'd be very happy if I see the dashboard of Dodge Kingsway Custom.
So I want to talk about the length of the car, when I se in the Internet i find information that the length of the car is 5.51 m but in french catalog I see that length is 5.51. Which dimenssion is right? |
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Location: Montreal, Canada | bshopov - 2010-03-16 4:04 PM
Thank you for information Phil
Now I can tell that I have Dodge Kingsway Custom 59
Do you have photos of Kingsway Custom - I want to see how must look like my car in perfect condition. also i want to see interior of Dodge Kingswat Custom, I'd be very happy if I see the dashboard of Dodge Kingsway Custom.
So I want to talk about the length of the car, when I se in the Internet i find information that the length of the car is 5.51 m but in french catalog I see that length is 5.51. Which dimenssion is right?
Did you go see the photos I linked you to of the interior of a Plymouth Fury sedan? It's the same interior, same dashboard, same everything inside.
I suggest you do a little research for pics of a 1959 Plymouth Fury sedan, as you will have a much greater chance of finding what you are looking for than looking specifically for stuff about the much rarer Kingsway Customs. Except for the front clip and the emblems on the fins, your car was 100% identical to a USA-made Plymouth Fury 4dr sedan. |
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Location: Pau, S-W France | The correct lenght, as stated in the last page of the catalog, is 5,33m (210 "). 5,51 m is for US Dodge. |
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Location: bishop, ca | Bogdan, if your car is an Export model, its rear leaf springs and its Torsion bars may well be Heavy-Duty items.
You can count the number of its leaf springs (it may have 6 1/2 leafs) and if you can get it elevated, you could look
at the tail ends of the Torsion bars to read what its raised-numbers Parts Numbers may be, too.
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| O'k I look in Internet about photos for Plymouth Fury and I will see again interior and dashboard. Can you tell me how many Dodge Kingsway Custom produced in 1959. So it means that I'll have problems with front torsions. In Condition that car is Dodge KIngsway Custom can you tell me what kind of torsions bars I must look for. Can I use the standart torsions bars from Dodge 59 or I must look for torsions for another model. Can you advice me? Can I use torsions from Dodge Regent, Mayfair, or I must look for torsions for Dodge Kingsway only. So the problem with torsions is big. Can you show me photo of Dodge kingsway Custom - Ouside I want to see where is located badge Custom and what is the difference between Kingsway Custom and Kingsway Deluxe
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| The problem is that I don't know the number of torsion bars because they missing, so even i climb the car when torsions missing - I can't see the item number and I can't be sure what kind of torsions must put in the car |
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Location: Vancouver, BC | bshopov - 2010-03-17 5:42 AM
The problem is that I don't know the number of torsion bars because they missing, so even i climb the car when torsions missing - I can't see the item number and I can't be sure what kind of torsions must put in the car
1959 6-cylinder Plymouth, Dodge, Kingsway and Diplomat used bars 604 and 605. (All bars that fit 118" and 122" wheelbase 1959-64 cars have the part numbers starting with 1825. Thus the full part numbers are 1825 604 and 1825 605.)
Other bars that would fit your Dodge at 1825 606/607; 1825 608/609; and 1825 610/611.
So, what cars could you use for a source?
Plymouth - all 1959, 1960 and 1961
Dodge Kingsway - all 1959
Dodge Dart - all 1960 and 1961
Dodge Coronet, Royal and Custom Royal - all 1959
Dodge Matador/Polara - all 1960 and 1961
Dodge 880/Custom 880 - all 1962, 1963 and 1964
DeSoto Diplomat - all 1959, 1960 and 1961
DeSoto Firesweep - all 1959
DeSoto Firedome and Adventurer - all 1960
DeSoto - all 1961
Chrysler Windsor - all 1959, 1960, 1961, 1962, 1963 and 1964
Chrysler Newport - all 1961, 1962, 1963 and 1964
Chrysler Saratoga - all 1961, 1962, 1963 and 1964
Chrysler 300 - all 1962, 1963 and 1964
Chrysler 300 H, J & K - all 1962, 1963 and 1964
Chrysler New Yorker - all 1963 and 1964
So there is a good selection vehicles to choose from over a six year period.
Just remember that the bars come in pairs, with the even number one digit less than the odd number. Thus a pair of bars would 604 and 605. Bar 606 would not go with 605, but it would with 607. Also, the even number (604) goes on the right or passenger side while the odd (605) goes on the left or driver side.
And when you install the bar, you place the bar non-numbered end in first. Thus the numbers will be showing when they are installed.
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| O.k I talk with Bigmauto and he prepare for me two torsions from Plymouth Belvedere 59. So I decided this problem.
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Location: bishop, ca | Bill, do you have applications for the 608/609 and the 610/611 bars?
Is there an Export torsion bar listed in your records?
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Location: Vancouver, BC | d500neil - 2010-03-25 2:10 PM
Bill, do you have applications for the 608/609 and the 610/611 bars?
Is there an Export torsion bar listed in your records?
The 608/609 is listed in 1959 -
Heavy-Duty for suburbans (wagons) : Plymouth (P), Dodge (E), DeSoto (F), Coronet (D) - 6&V8
Heavy-Duty for all models except convertible & wagons : Dodge Custom Royal (D) and DeSoto Firesweep (S), also Chrysler Windsor (C) after M519101254, M511109320, M514100956
For 610/611 :
Standard duty for all models except convertibles : Chrysler Windsor (C) before M519101517, M511109320, M514100956
No mention at all of export use, although the H-D springs were used for export models as a rule.
By the way -
P - Plymouth (118" wheelbase)
C - Chrysler (122" & 126" wheelbase)
D - Dodge (122" wheelbase)
E - Dodge (118" wheelbase) and Dodge Kingsway
F - DeSoto Diplomat (118" wheelbase)
S - DeSoto (122" & 126" wheelbase)
Wagons for 118" wheelbase models were on a 122" wheelbase.
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Location: bishop, ca | That's weird; the 610/611 are lower/STANDARD-duty, than the 608/609, huh?
John Schutte just scored a set of 608/609 bars off of a 61 D500.
B/G 61 might just be interested in those bars, because his D500 came with the 610/611
bars, reportedly...
Edited by d500neil 2010-03-26 3:52 PM
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can anyone tell me how can I find the original colour of my Dodge 59. Is there any label on the car, or a sign that I find the real colour? |
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