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Handygun
Posted 2010-01-06 1:04 AM (#203992)
Subject: Chrysler Hemi 4 bolt manifolds


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Does anyone know who is re-popping the truck/300 manifolds?
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Mopar1
Posted 2010-01-06 6:41 AM (#204007 - in reply to #203992)
Subject: RE: Chrysler Hemi 4 bolt manifolds



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Someone mentioned that they are being done, but no details @ all by the commenter & I can't remember where I saw the comment. If true news should surface soon.
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dukeboy
Posted 2010-01-06 7:39 AM (#204008 - in reply to #204007)
Subject: Re: Chrysler Hemi 4 bolt manifolds



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Steve, I got a set of NON 4 bolt if you can't find 4 bolt....Came off 354 Chrysler in a car..
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StillOutThere
Posted 2010-01-06 10:13 AM (#204015 - in reply to #203992)
Subject: RE: Chrysler Hemi 4 bolt manifolds



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Yes, the 4-bolt truck manifolds are being reproduced.  They had to be because so many of the truck manifolds were cracked, warped, and abused.  The market was there for them not so much for the fact the '55-56 Chrysler 300 race cars used these manifolds or certainly there aren't a lot of big Dodge hemi trucks being restored but the hot rodders were driving up the prices on them on eBay for their projects.   So now new manifolds are available in fresh high quality castings with careful personalized machining rather than production line process.  

John Forney,  jwfornew@msn.com   is the seller that had them on eBay a while back.   When the economy tanked he had already sold quite a few and sales virtually stopped but he has more manifolds.

Further news to this:  Those truck manifolds will not clear the right upper control arm and the power steering box of the '57-58 Chrysler chassis.  So, I worked with John and with the pattern maker and the foundry and we cast up a very limited number of the late '57 and 1958 Chrysler high performance option manifolds.   These are the same 4-bolt manifold with one of the ram's horns cast with a partly flat side to give the needed clearance.   This was a factory option listed as "the 2.5" exhaust option" for the '58 Chrysler 300.   They were to be standard with 300D fuel injection.

I'm attaching a couple of photos of the flat sided manifolds.





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StillOutThere
Posted 2010-01-07 5:44 PM (#204219 - in reply to #204015)
Subject: RE: Chrysler Hemi 4 bolt manifolds



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StillOutThere - 2010-01-06 9:13 AM   SNIP  John Forney,  jwfornew@msn.com   is the seller that had them on eBay a while back.   When the economy tanked he had already sold quite a few and sales virtually stopped but he has more manifolds.  SNIP 

I typo'd in the above.   Correct email address for John:   jwforney@msn.com   

By the way, he also has available stub header pipes to start your exhaust system as shown in the attached.





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DeSotohead
Posted 2010-01-07 6:11 PM (#204222 - in reply to #204219)
Subject: RE: Chrysler Hemi 4 bolt manifolds



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Wayne...

How did those manifolds get the Chrysler Part Numbers on them?
Did John cut a deal with Ma MOPAR on this?
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StillOutThere
Posted 2010-01-07 9:53 PM (#204254 - in reply to #204222)
Subject: RE: Chrysler Hemi 4 bolt manifolds



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Done at the pattern maker.   There is no DPCD logo.  These are not exact duplicate restoration parts like the new exhaust manifolds sold for later model Mopar muscle cars that require Mopar licensing that carry logos and etc. and can not be told from original castings.

Edited by StillOutThere 2010-01-07 9:58 PM
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jagster
Posted 2010-01-08 1:11 PM (#204318 - in reply to #203992)
Subject: Re: Chrysler Hemi 4 bolt manifolds


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Now, that's the kind of stuff I like to see. I wish someone would get started on some fenders for the 57/58 New Yorkers and sister cars. I am about the smooth out my rusted fenders and make fiberglass molds of them. Does anyone think there would be a market?
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Handygun
Posted 2010-01-09 1:09 AM (#204433 - in reply to #203992)
Subject: Re: Chrysler Hemi 4 bolt manifolds


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Wayne thanks for those pics and input both verbally and actual legwork on design, I am trying to come up with an exhaust systym of course that will flow , I have the stock 2bolt 58 manifolds( thanks Chaney) but they dont look too promising. My cam is a split pattern 276-284 biased to exhaust, anticipating this issue.I have looked at the Sanderson DD3 with it's short collector it's great but with the 2 outboard primaries going over the 2 inboards looks like this will put the forward pipes in the way as your manifold's have the flat area where you noted/designed, the Hot Heads shorty is the opposite but has such a long vertical collector and there doesnt seem to be a lot of room for anything to be straight for very long, maybe these manifolds-extrude honed- would be the answer they look very nice and manifolds are definitly friendlier to everything else,any idea what the guy was asking for these?
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StillOutThere
Posted 2010-01-09 10:44 AM (#204460 - in reply to #203992)
Subject: Re: Chrysler Hemi 4 bolt manifolds



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Inquiries are coming on HERE and to JOHN and to ME. I need to clarify some misunderstandings.

John makes the 4-bolt truck style hot rod type manifolds with the full round ram's horns. He sells those. You contact him for those.

I sell the 4-bolt '57-58 High Performance style manifolds with the single flattened ram's horn that is required in the '57-58 chassis. This was original equipment type in the late '57 stick shift 390HP 300Cs and was an optional 2.5" exhaust pkg. for all 300Ds and was std. equip on Ds with fuel injection. If you are interested in the Hi-Po type manifolds, PM me for an explanation letter of the offering and the pricing.

Thanks.
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StillOutThere
Posted 2010-01-09 10:50 AM (#204462 - in reply to #204433)
Subject: Re: Chrysler Hemi 4 bolt manifolds



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Handygun - 2010-01-09 12:09 AM Wayne thanks for those pics and input both verbally and actual legwork on design, I am trying to come up with an exhaust systym of course that will flow , I have the stock 2bolt 58 manifolds( thanks Chaney) but they dont look too promising. My cam is a split pattern 276-284 biased to exhaust, anticipating this issue.I have looked at the Sanderson DD3 with it's short collector it's great but with the 2 outboard primaries going over the 2 inboards looks like this will put the forward pipes in the way as your manifold's have the flat area where you noted/designed, the Hot Heads shorty is the opposite but has such a long vertical collector and there doesnt seem to be a lot of room for anything to be straight for very long, maybe these manifolds-extrude honed- would be the answer they look very nice and manifolds are definitly friendlier to everything else,any idea what the guy was asking for these?

 The Sanderson DD3  WILL NOT clear the right upper control arm nor the left motor mount without denting one header tube on each side to get needed clearance with a Hemi in a '57-58 Chrysler chassis.   They are hot rod headers for hot rod chassis, not for our production cars.    If you do buy a set and dent them to fit, then you next have the problem of working the dump outlet around your torsion bar.     I know this because I've been there and done that and it caused me to spend years researching bringing the ONE and only flat sided manifold I could ever get my hands on into reproduction and to market.

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