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fintastic57
Posted 2010-04-07 7:24 PM (#217558)
Subject: WCFB- LEFT TURN HESITATION_STUMBLING


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My 57 318 with the dual carbs has a severe stumble on acceleration from a stop and making a left turn or sometimes slowing down to make a left. My carbs were professionaly restored a few years ago and are in good condition.
Seems to me this is a problem that goes way back, but I can't remember what the solution was. Can anyone help out? Dick
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Shep
Posted 2010-04-07 7:34 PM (#217562 - in reply to #217558)
Subject: Re: WCFB- LEFT TURN HESITATION_STUMBLING



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Metering rods adjusted wrong, low float levels, dirt in the carbs, weak accel pump action, are a few of the possibilities.
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59CRL
Posted 2010-04-07 8:24 PM (#217579 - in reply to #217558)
Subject: RE: WCFB- LEFT TURN HESITATION_STUMBLING



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fintastic57 - 2010-04-07 7:24 PM

My 57 318 with the dual carbs has a severe stumble on acceleration from a stop and making a left turn or sometimes slowing down to make a left. My carbs were professionaly restored a few years ago and are in good condition.
Seems to me this is a problem that goes way back, but I can't remember what the solution was. Can anyone help out? Dick


Try adjusting them with a vacuum gauge, the rich/lean screws.... also check the choke and a new gas filter would help.
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chrysler300c
Posted 2010-04-08 12:40 AM (#217625 - in reply to #217558)
Subject: RE: WCFB- LEFT TURN HESITATION_STUMBLING



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They are running way too rich. There is a tech service bulletin issued in 1957 on the CHrysler 300C with dual fours pertaining to this exact problem. If you would like a copy, please send me your email and I can email it to you. You can then take it to a qualified Carter WCFB tech to perform the mods to your carbs. I did it on my 300C and what a difference and better mileage.

George
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345 DeSoto
Posted 2010-04-08 7:32 AM (#217641 - in reply to #217558)
Subject: Re: WCFB- LEFT TURN HESITATION_STUMBLING



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I had the exact problem with the 2x4's on my Adventurer engine. Floats were set a bit too high...
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BigBlockMopar
Posted 2010-04-08 8:55 AM (#217642 - in reply to #217558)
Subject: Re: WCFB- LEFT TURN HESITATION_STUMBLING



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Float level problem.
If the engine hesitates then my guess is one or more of them is adjusted too low, leaving little fuel in the carb(-side).

On stumbling, black smoke will probably exit the exhaust aswell, then the float(s) is probably too high.


Edited by BigBlockMopar 2010-04-08 8:57 AM
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Phil_the_frenchie
Posted 2010-04-08 4:19 PM (#217681 - in reply to #217558)
Subject: Re: WCFB- LEFT TURN HESITATION_STUMBLING



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I've the same problem on my '57 Imperial. As says chrysler300 ther's a technical bulletin which shows what to do (i have this bulletin !) but i never did it as it needs to drill in the carb ....
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fintastic57
Posted 2010-04-08 8:04 PM (#217732 - in reply to #217681)
Subject: Re: WCFB- LEFT TURN HESITATION_STUMBLING


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Thanks to all who responded. I will follow up when I get it straightened out. Dick
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Rebels-59
Posted 2010-05-21 12:33 PM (#224484 - in reply to #217642)
Subject: Re: WCFB- LEFT TURN HESITATION_STUMBLING



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Well, here's the Official Party Line, from Carter.

I've had this be done to Horrie's carb, and about 85%
of the up-hill/left-hand carb bowl wash-outs
have been eliminated via this protocol.



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Boris56
Posted 2010-05-21 1:24 PM (#224491 - in reply to #217558)
Subject: RE: WCFB- LEFT TURN HESITATION_STUMBLING



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When the AFB came out in 1958, it was billed as an improved design and "non-leaking"... I remember reading this in a Motor Trend review of the '58 Fury. So this was a known quirk with the WCFB almost from its inception...

Edited by Boris56 2010-05-21 4:32 PM
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d500neil
Posted 2010-05-21 2:37 PM (#224505 - in reply to #217558)
Subject: Re: WCFB- LEFT TURN HESITATION_STUMBLING



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The WCFB was commonly acknowledged as having this (up-hill-)left-turn float-bowl wash out problem.

The problem is mentioned in several MT road tests that I can recall, right now.

It is a major pisser problem...

The AFB's have their float bowls installed at a 90-degrees different orientation (forget which-way, right now)...but the effect was to eliminate that momentary fuel starvation situation from occurring, during a concerted left-hand cornering situation.

You KNOW it, when it happens...always on left-hand turns.







Edited by d500neil 2010-05-21 7:35 PM
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Phil_the_frenchie
Posted 2010-05-21 4:57 PM (#224528 - in reply to #217558)
Subject: Re: WCFB- LEFT TURN HESITATION_STUMBLING



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What is this "bushing" made of ? I know bushing on control arms or leaf springs but i think this bushing is not rubber made ....
What is the inside diameter ?
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d500neil
Posted 2010-05-21 7:32 PM (#224555 - in reply to #224528)
Subject: Re: WCFB- LEFT TURN HESITATION_STUMBLING



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It can be simple thin brass stock tubing.

It's supposed to act as an section-insulating-bushing, while maintaining a vacuum passage.

I'd love to see a real photo of its installation, but I've never been present when this bushing's
been installed--this procedure has been done at least twice, on different carbs, since I've owned
my car.



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