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Location: Parts Unknown | Not Forward Look, but Mopar nonetheless. This farm had an accumulation of old cars all over.
Why can't I find a wad of 58 DeSotos, Dodges, and Plymouths like this ? 
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Location: Parts Unknown | Not sure of the year, but this early Valiant two door quietly rests in a backyard behind a hedge.
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Location: Norcross (Atlanta area), GA | Doctor DeSoto - 2010-07-25 6:37 PM
Not sure of the year, but this early Valiant two door quietly rests in a backyard behind a hedge.
That Valiant is a 1962 model, round taillights were used for that model year only, but I can't tell which body style or trim level that car is. The top level Valiant Signet model had that big logo on the trunk lid, but it was a two-door hardtop only. Otherwise, it would be the V-200 series, in centerpost sedan form with either two or four doors. Base V-100 models never had that much trim.
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Location: Parts Unknown | A 1960 Impala sits derelict in an upscale Spokane neighborhood.
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Location: Parts Unknown | A plucked chicken bemoans its lacking state of fins.
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Location: Parts Unknown | This "road warrior" 60 T-bird is still on the road every day of the year after 50 years of service.
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Location: Parts Unknown | This car hides in my brother's garage.
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Location: Parts Unknown | I think this is a 62 (?) Mercury.
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Location: Parts Unknown | Judging by old photos and surviving numbers, the all-new-for-57 Ford trucks were not too well received.
This example (with matching trailer) waits quietly beside a farm building for someone to take an interest.
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Location: Parts Unknown | The silhouetted head of a pit bull gives evidence as to why this AMC Marlin was photographed with a
zoom lens from outside the fence ! 
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Location: Parts Unknown | This little Comet was found parked outside a Spokane industrial building.
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Location: Parts Unknown | This forlorn 59 Coronet sedan has occupied this impound lot for decades.
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Location: Williams California | Great photos!
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Location: Parts Unknown | The plate on the truck reads "Scenic Idaho" 
After getting permission to take a photograph of this 58 Special sedan, the person on hand showed me a 56 Studebaker
Hawk and 57 Olds wagon inside the nearby building. The owner could not be reached to get permission to photograph these,
but I will pursue that as time allows.
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Location: Parts Unknown | This pink and white Firesweep Shopper slowly sinks into the pine duff.
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| Doctor DeSoto - 2010-07-30 12:51 AM
This pink and white Firesweep Shopper slowly sinks into the pine duff.
Nice Desoto... someone should grab her up and restore her. Old wagons are hot when they are fixed up. |
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Location: Parts Unknown | I need 1000 acres to start another wrecking yard !
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Location: Comox,British Columbia | looking at rvs on northern vancouver island and i came across this!
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Location: Georgia | Here's a photo of a '57 Belvedere 2 door hardtop that sat in Byron, GA under this carport for a long, long time, they would never sell.  She finally vanished a few years ago.
Next is an old Packard in Macon, GA
Pete
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Location: Plymouth Spaceport | SavoyPlaza - 2010-07-30 4:17 PM
Here's a photo of a '57 Belvedere 2 door hardtop that sat in Byron, GA under this carport for a long, long time, they would never sell. She finally vanished a few years ago.
Next is an old Packard in Macon, GA
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Location: Brisbane | Im pretty sure a member of the ICC or CCC grabbed that gold 57 belvedere last year or earlier this year. It was a two door hardtop from memory |
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Location: Plymouth Spaceport | I'd love to be able to find a 1957 or 1958 Plymouth 2 door hardtop one day! I'm not suprised someone grabbed that one quickly. |
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Location: Bama | Here's a 47 or 48 Buick or Pontiac I found in the woods. Straight 8. http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f310/Larry57savoy/47002-1.jpg
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Location: Bama | Here's a Plaza I found behind a vacant house. I left my # and got a call a few weeks later. $1500. I passed. Car is gone now, prolly crushed.
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Location: Parts Unknown | Dream car = 58 Plaza 4s
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Location: West Chester, PA | Did any notice the rear lower bumper on the fron t bumper of the 57 Belvedere drop top? That's weird...
Here's a FL Dodge that I saw a couple months ago, all I had to take pictures wiht was my iphone. Not sure of the year and model, but I'm quite sure someone here knows.
Spotted in Paoli, PA headed east on Route 30 towards Philadelphia. PA Antique Historic Tags do not allow you to drive at night, bad Dodge...
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Location: Parts Unknown | 59CRL - 2010-08-02 2:11 PM
Ok, name the model and year of this ride with the rusty retarded garbage rims on it.
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1964 Newport. Rims = ghetto 
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Location: Norcross (Atlanta area), GA | chrycopsycho - 2010-07-30 1:34 AM
looking at rvs on northern vancouver island and i came across this!
Float, float on: http://www.amphicar.com/
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| Doctor DeSoto - 2010-08-01 6:20 PM
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1964 Newport. Rims = ghetto
Thanks, I had an idea of 62 or 63, yeah ghetto, look at the ride next to it, must be the owners SUV.....
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Location: Some Island called Prince Edward | I saw these tonight at a local cruise night: 57 Mayfair 
59 Fury 4 door hardtop 
62 Chrysler 300 
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| phurious - 2010-08-01 5:27 PM
Did any notice the rear lower bumper on the fron t bumper of the 57 Belvedere drop top? That's weird...
Here's a FL Dodge that I saw a couple months ago, all I had to take pictures wiht was my iphone. Not sure of the year and model, but I'm quite sure someone here knows.
Spotted in Paoli, PA headed east on Route 30 towards Philadelphia. PA Antique Historic Tags do not allow you to drive at night, bad Dodge...
This is a 57 Dodge, 4 door sedan so it is a Coronet and looks to have the D-500 badge on the passenger side rear. So a 57 Coronet lancer D-500 |
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Location: Etters Pa | phurious
Current Pennsylvania law permits, the operation of vehicles registered as Antiques during the dark hours provided that the vehicle is equipped with the lighting required pursuant to 67 Pa. C.S. Section 175.66. But, 67 Pa. C.S. Section 175.66(m) states that an antique vehicle, if operated exclusively between the hours of sunrise to sunset and not during periods of reduced visibility or insufficient illumination, is exempt from requirements of this section except requirements pertaining to stop lamps.
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Location: Scotland | 59CRL - 2010-08-01 8:50 PM
phurious - 2010-08-01 5:27 PM
Did any notice the rear lower bumper on the fron t bumper of the 57 Belvedere drop top? That's weird...
Here's a FL Dodge that I saw a couple months ago, all I had to take pictures wiht was my iphone. Not sure of the year and model, but I'm quite sure someone here knows.
Spotted in Paoli, PA headed east on Route 30 towards Philadelphia. PA Antique Historic Tags do not allow you to drive at night, bad Dodge...
This is a 57 Dodge, 4 door sedan so it is a Coronet and looks to have the D-500 badge on the passenger side rear. So a 57 Coronet lancer D-500
It is a '57 Custom Royal 4 door sedan,not a Lancer or D500.
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Location: Parts Unknown | "Lancer" = hardtop (or convertible)
The D-500 tag was on the deck lid in 57. Not on the fin like in 59.
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Location: West Chester, PA | BHWINC - 2010-08-01 8:54 PM
phurious
Current Pennsylvania law permits, the operation of vehicles registered as Antiques during the dark hours provided that the vehicle is equipped with the lighting required pursuant to 67 Pa. C.S. Section 175.66. But, 67 Pa. C.S. Section 175.66(m) states that an antique vehicle, if operated exclusively between the hours of sunrise to sunset and not during periods of reduced visibility or insufficient illumination, is exempt from requirements of this section except requirements pertaining to stop lamps.
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Current Pennsylvania law permits, the operation of vehicles registered as Antiques during the dark hours provided that the vehicle is equipped with the lighting required pursuant to 67 Pa. C.S. Section 175.66. But, 67 Pa. C.S. Section 175.66(m) states that an antique vehicle, if operated exclusively between the hours of sunrise to sunset and not during periods of reduced visibility or insufficient illumination, is exempt from requirements of this section except requirements pertaining to stop lamps.
So I guess in 'state legal speak'. this means in order to drive the car at night, it must have headlights?
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Location: Etters Pa | phurious.
I think the confusion in Pennsylvania stems from ambigous language on the old PennDot form MV-11 which implied that vehicles registered as antiques could only be operated between sunrise and sunset. This was the third distinction between a classic and an antiqe. The other two distinctions, both of which still remain, are that a classic vehicle is 15 years or older and must go through an annual saftey inspection (no emissions inspection however). A vehicle registered as an antique must be 25 years or older and is not subject to an annual safety inspection or emmissions inspection.
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That pretty much sums it up
The "normal lighting requirements of the Pennsylvania Vehicle Code" are contained in 75 PA Code Section 4303. They read as follows:
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§ 4303. General lighting requirements.
(a) Head lamps.--Every vehicle, except trailers, operated on a highway shall be equipped with a
head lamp system in conformance with regulations of the department. The regulations shall not
prohibit a bus from being equipped with devices used to carry pedalcycles on the front of the bus.
(b) Rear lighting.--Every vehicle operated on a highway shall be equipped with a rear lighting
system including, but not limited to, rear lamps, rear reflectors, stop lamps and license plate light, in
conformance with regulations of the department. If a vehicle is equipped with a centrally mounted rear
stop light, a decal or overlay may be affixed to the centrally mounted rear stop light if the decal or
overlay meets all applicable State and Federal regulations.
(c) Turn signals and hazard warning lights.--Every motor vehicle, except motorcycles and
pedalcycles, and every trailer operated on a highway shall be equipped with a system of turn signal
lights and hazard warning lights in conformance with regulations of the department.
(d) Identification, clearance and side marker lights.--Every motor vehicle, trailer and
combination operated on a highway shall be equipped with a system of lights which may include
retroreflective reflectors, identification, clearance and side marker lights in conformance with
regulations of the department.
(e)Equipment exempted by regulation.--Antique motor vehicles, animal-drawn vehicles,
implements of husbandry, commercial implements of husbandry and special mobile equipment, if
operated exclusively between the hours of sunrise and sunset and not during periods of reduced
visibility or insufficient illumination, may be exempted from certain lighting equipment requirements
of this part by regulations of the department.
The referenced "regulations of the Department" regarding lighting are contained in 67 PA Code Section 175.66. They read as follows:
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§ 175.66. Lighting and electrical systems.
(a) Condition of lamps and switches. Every required lamp or switch shall be in safe operating condition as described in § 175.80 (relating to inspection procedure).
(b) Lighting standards. A lamp shall comply with vehicle lighting equipment requirements of this title. See Tables II—IV; Chapter 153 and 75 Pa.C.S. § 4301.
(c) Headlamp system. A vehicle specified under this subchapter which is driven on highway shall have a two- or four-headlamp system. See 75 Pa.C.S. § 4303(a) (relating to general lighting requirements).
(1) Both lamps in the two-headlamp system shall be of Type II construction consisting of high beam and low beam. One lamp shall be located on each side of front of motor vehicle.
(2) In the four-headlamp system, two lamps shall be of Type II construction and two lamps shall be of Type I construction. Type I lamps consist of a high beam only. One of each type shall be located on each side of the front of the motor vehicle.
(3) The headlamp low beam minimum candlepower shall not be less than 7,500.
(4) The headlamp high beam minimum candlepower shall not be less than 10,000.
(5) A headlamp shall be aimed to comply with inspection procedure of this subchapter.
(6) A vehicle specified under this subchapter shall be equipped with manual dimmer switch conveniently located for use by the driver while in normal operating position. An automatic dimming device may be used in addition to the manual switch.
(7) A vehicle specified under this subchapter shall be equipped with a beam indicator, which shall be lighted whenever the high beam of light from the headlamp is in use and shall not otherwise be lighted. An indicator shall be located so that when lighted it is readily visible without glare to operator of vehicle.
(d) Total candlepower. The total candlepower for headlamps and auxiliary lamps shall not exceed 150,000.
(e) Other required lamps. A vehicle specified under this subchapter shall have at least one red stop lamp on each side of rear of vehicle, which shall be illuminated immediately upon application of the service brake.
(f) Illumination except headlamps, fog lamps and auxiliary driving lamps. A vehicle specified under this subchapter shall be equipped with parking lamps, stop lamps, tail lamps, turn signal lamps and hazard warning lamps designed for that specific function, which under normal atmospheric conditions shall be capable of being seen and distinguished during nighttime operation at a distance of 500 feet. See 75 Pa.C.S. § 4303(b)—(d).
(m) Antique Vehicle Lighting Exemption -An
antique vehicle, if operated exclusively
between the hours of sunrise to sunset and
not during periods of reduced visibility or
insufficient illumination, is exempt from
requirements of this section except
requirements pertaining to stop lamps.
(1) Stop lamps, turn signals and hazard warning lamps shall be visible at distance of 100 feet during normal sunlight.
(2) Rear lamps shall be lighted whenever headlamps, fog lamps or auxiliary driving lamps are in operation.
(3) A vehicle specified under this subchapter shall be equipped with hazard warning lamps unless the lamps were not included as original equipment.
(4) The turn signals shall have a frequency of flash between 60—120 flashes per minute.
(g) Condition and position of lamps. Lamps shall be properly fastened; direct light properly; be of a color not contrary to Tables II—IV; and not be so obstructed by a screen, bar, auxiliary equipment or a device as to obscure, change the color of or obstruct beam.
(h) Ornamental lamps. A lamp not enumerated in this section and not located as described in Tables III, IV and V of this chapter, is prohibited unless it is available as original equipment. An illuminated sign is prohibited except on taxicabs, ambulances and trucks. Flashing or revolving lights are not ornamental lamps. Provisions relating to flashing or revolving lights are in Chapters 15 and 173 (relating to authorized vehicles and special operating privileges; and flashing or revolving lights on emergency and authorized vehicles).
(i) [Reserved].
(j) Back-up lamps. Back-up lamps are not permitted to be lighted when the vehicle is in forward motion. Back-up lamps shall turn off automatically when the vehicle goes forward. If the lamps do not turn off automatically, a dash indicator that lights or creates audible warning is required.
(k) Registration plate lamp. If the vehicle was originally so equipped, the registration plate lamp shall emit white light and make the registration plate visible from distance of 50 feet to the rear of the vehicle.
(l) Auxiliary driving lamps and fog lamps. Auxiliary driving lamps and fog lamps may be installed on a passenger vehicle or light truck if the lamps comply with the following:
(1) Auxiliary driving lamps shall not be substituted for headlamps. Auxiliary driving lamps may only be used with high headlamp beams.
(2) Fog lamps may not be substituted for headlamps.
(3) Auxiliary driving lamps and fog lamps shall be mounted on the front, spaced at least 20 inches apart from center to center and at height not more than 42 inches above level surface upon which the vehicle stands nor lower than the lowest chassis part. Rear fog lamps, if originally installed or offered as optional equipment, are acceptable.
(4) Auxiliary driving lamps and fog lamps shall be aimed when the vehicle and lamp assembly are in the straight ahead position with the beam not above horizontal centerline of lamp at 25 feet.
(5) A vehicle specified under this subchapter may have only one pair of approved auxiliary driving lamps and fog lamps.
(6) Auxiliary driving lamps and fog lamps shall not be placed in front of a required lamp.
Note that while the General Lighing Requirements mentions side lights, they are not mentioned in the referenced section on Lightiong and Electrical Requirements. While it is a general pricnicple that a state cannot require the installation of lights (like side lights pre-1968) that were not Federally mandated, I don't see that spelled out in the regs.
I've been told that the headlamp standard is met by any sealed beam system, even 6V systems. When these regs were adopted (mostly in 1977 with updates), sealed beams were all there was and 6V systems could be a little as 15 years old on some trucks.
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Location: Parts Unknown | Assigned to a new sector today, I was able to find a few fins out in the hinterlands.
This late 40's GM sedanette is almost lost in an ocean of tall grass. The barn beyond
once witnessed 24 hour-a-day activity as the engine house for steam locomotives of a
logging railroad. Nicknamed "Camp Neverstill". Except for the sighing of the breeze and
the croaking of the frogs, Neverstill is still at last.
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Location: Parts Unknown | This early Valiant keeps sad company with a lot of junk around an abandoned mobile home.
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Location: Parts Unknown | Cousin Fred's high school hotrod has been relinquished to behind-the-barn status to keep company
with his earlier ride - the go-cart.
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Location: Hershey PA | Notice on the 59 DeSoto Firesweep SW, the left taillight assembly is from a 57/58 while the other is the correct 59
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Location: Parts Unknown | All these cars are local. I can ask if I might copy the tag info for you.
Are the data tags in the same right upper cowl location as on the 57-58 cars ?
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Location: Georgia | This is a kool thread, Brent. Here are some of the classics living in my 'hood in Macon, GA.
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Location: Georgia | Stang and a Booick
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Location: Edmonton, AB | In a town called Duvernay:
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