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1960DesotoAdventurer
Posted 2010-05-24 1:53 PM (#224950)
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1958 plymouth christine movie car - $16000 (berkeley)
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Posted 2010-05-25 9:06 PM (#225216 - in reply to #224950)
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Wow! That doesn't look bad. Kinda looks like one of those "too good to be true" deals.
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Posted 2010-05-25 9:16 PM (#225218 - in reply to #225216)
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Hmmmm, We know where the two remaining movie cars are....Wonder IF, er, which scene this one was in?
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Posted 2010-05-25 9:20 PM (#225219 - in reply to #225218)
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I think it was in the "Up against the wall, Mother-MoPar" scene....



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Posted 2010-05-26 2:40 AM (#225253 - in reply to #224950)
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Just bought the car tonight
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Posted 2010-05-26 2:42 AM (#225254 - in reply to #224950)
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had to go look myself, once i saw her i had to buy it, finally bought my first christine
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Posted 2010-05-26 6:08 AM (#225257 - in reply to #224950)
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Congrats!.
But, do you plan on buying more then one?

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Posted 2010-05-26 7:13 AM (#225260 - in reply to #224950)
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Congratulations to the new owner. The ad says "original"... wonder if that includes the color (although many '58 hardtops were actually produced in Toreador Red). I noticed that the interior is black and white, which I much prefer to the "Christine" red and white interior.

Alextodd, is it a 318 car or a 350? What options does it have?
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Posted 2010-05-26 7:50 AM (#225263 - in reply to #225260)
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I noticed that the interior is black and white, which I much prefer to the "Christine" red and white interior.




Um, the only thing White in "Christine's" interior if it was done movie correct was the Steering wheel and headliner....The seats were a Red/darker red combo and the same thing on the door panels.....A true red and white Interior on a Christine such as my own, would be considered "Custom"....Just FYI...

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alextodd
Posted 2010-05-26 11:07 AM (#225281 - in reply to #224950)
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318, and i also prefer christine red, will be changing to clone
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Posted 2010-05-26 11:34 AM (#225286 - in reply to #225281)
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Do you have any pictures of the car to share with us?
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Posted 2010-05-26 11:42 AM (#225289 - in reply to #225263)
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dukeboy - 2010-05-26 7:50 AM

Boris56 - 2010-05-26 7:13 AM

I noticed that the interior is black and white, which I much prefer to the "Christine" red and white interior.




Um, the only thing White in "Christine's" interior if it was done movie correct was the Steering wheel and headliner....The seats were a Red/darker red combo and the same thing on the door panels.....A true red and white Interior on a Christine such as my own, would be considered "Custom"....Just FYI...


So "movie correct" was a custom red/darker red combo? Did the door panels follow the Belvedere or Fury trim pattern or was it a custom design?

But the OEM red interior offered in '58 was red/white? I guess I'm not that up on what is "movie correct."
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Posted 2010-05-26 12:27 PM (#225296 - in reply to #225289)
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Christine style seats...(Of course, it's doesn't have the little "Fury" dip in the middle, but you get the idea)..
As for the Door panels, they were a mixture of "Fury" and "Belvey" panel styles...
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Posted 2010-05-26 1:14 PM (#225302 - in reply to #225281)
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Way to go, Alextodd! I would love to see more pictures.
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Posted 2010-05-26 1:25 PM (#225304 - in reply to #225253)
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alextodd - 2010-05-26 2:40 AM

Just bought the car tonight :)



Cool!,post some photos so we can all see it!

I sure wish I had the money to buy her....I keep putting of that bank heist!

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Posted 2010-05-26 3:34 PM (#225319 - in reply to #224950)
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i got tons of photos of the car, just having trouble with my memory chip working in computer, should have pics posted by this evening
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Posted 2010-05-26 4:50 PM (#225332 - in reply to #224950)
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Looks like a very good deal on this car. similar examples sold a couple years ago for nearly double this price.

Congrats on your new Plymouth!
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Lancer Mike
Posted 2010-05-26 6:54 PM (#225373 - in reply to #225332)
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Couldn't agree more with John. Even based on the portion of a photo that we have seen.

1958 Plymouth Belvedere sport coupes have managed to beat the Great Recession and appear to still be on the rise. Fantastic deal on this one.
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Posted 2010-05-26 7:03 PM (#225376 - in reply to #224950)
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Nice going Alextodd; welcome to the asylum!

The ad certainly implies that your car was used in the making of the movie; if it was, there will be some
documentation to that extent.

If you are curious about it, you could post a pic of your car's Paint/Trim data plate on our Fender tag Decoding message
board, and others can tell you more about your car's OEM condition, and, that site will show you how to order a copy
of the Factory's IBM Build Card, on your car, which will provide a lot more information on how/when it was built.





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Posted 2010-05-26 7:26 PM (#225380 - in reply to #225376)
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He don't care bout how it was Neil, all he's concerned with is............GULP......Painting it the correct "Christine red"...YIKES, the Blasphemy! Alextodd, See me for that red BTW....Good score on your Christine..She's in Good hands now...Holy Cow, what's next? Dare I say, a 440?

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Posted 2010-05-26 8:33 PM (#225390 - in reply to #224950)
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I doubt the owner was trying to pass this car off as one of the movie cars,he just meant it was the same car used in Christine.

Alextodd,again looks like she's a real beauty,can't wait to see the photos of her!
What options does she have?
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Posted 2010-05-26 8:39 PM (#225392 - in reply to #225380)
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dukeboy - 2010-05-26 7:26 PM

He don't care bout how it was Neil, all he's concerned with is............GULP......Painting it the correct "Christine red"...YIKES, the Blasphemy! Alextodd, See me for that red BTW....Good score on your Christine..She's in Good hands now...Holy Cow, what's next? Dare I say, a 440?


Ah, but what IS the "correct" Christine red? From what I've read, the jury's out on that. And really, how different is it from Toreador Red? And who would know?

But then again, aren't they ALL eventually painted some form of Christine red? Yawn...

I guess homage to The Movie is paramount.

And no '58 coupes have original engines, options, etc., unless they're real Buckskin Beige Furys. They've all been modified, from what I can tell.

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Posted 2010-05-26 8:41 PM (#225393 - in reply to #225296)
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Christine style seats...(Of course, it's doesn't have the little "Fury" dip in the middle, but you get the idea)..
As for the Door panels, they were a mixture of "Fury" and "Belvey" panel styles...
Photobucket


So that's it. Who came up with the red/dark red scheme? A movie prop person? Or... ?
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Posted 2010-05-26 10:33 PM (#225410 - in reply to #224950)
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I also tried to buy this car ,last week but the guy could not send photo's and a friend from the bay area called him for me Tuesday ,but he said he was leaving for some kind of reunion in Staten Island (Of all places) and could not show the car. Well I'm glad a club member got it .Seem's like a nice car! Too bad its red. (Just kidding!) HAPPY MOTORING! and good luck Alex!
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Posted 2010-05-26 10:41 PM (#225412 - in reply to #225393)
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Christine style seats...(Of course, it's doesn't have the little "Fury" dip in the middle, but you get the idea)..
As for the Door panels, they were a mixture of "Fury" and "Belvey" panel styles...
Photobucket


So that's it. Who came up with the red/dark red scheme? A movie prop person? Or... ?


When the movie was being shot, SMS wasn't around yet....SO, A local Mexican American Auto upholstery shop got the nod for a "Custom" "Christine" interior....
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Posted 2010-05-26 10:45 PM (#225415 - in reply to #225392)
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He don't care bout how it was Neil, all he's concerned with is............GULP......Painting it the correct "Christine red"...YIKES, the Blasphemy! Alextodd, See me for that red BTW....Good score on your Christine..She's in Good hands now...Holy Cow, what's next? Dare I say, a 440?


Ah, but what IS the "correct" Christine red? From what I've read, the jury's out on that. And really, how different is it from Toreador Red? And who would know?

But then again, aren't they ALL eventually painted some form of Christine red? Yawn...

I guess homage to The Movie is paramount.

And no '58 coupes have original engines, options, etc., unless they're real Buckskin Beige Furys. They've all been modified, from what I can tell.



Who would know? We do from the two remaining Christines left from the movie...

It IS different from the Factory Toreador Red...

Modified or not(Mainly as we really don't care), they are all Christines, just some aren't painted Red and White Yet..

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Posted 2010-05-26 10:46 PM (#225416 - in reply to #225412)
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"Dukeboy",
Just curious,is that shop still around?
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Posted 2010-05-26 10:50 PM (#225417 - in reply to #225416)
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1960DesotoAdventurer - 2010-05-26 10:46 PM

"Dukeboy",
Just curious,is that shop still around?


I assume your referring to the upholstery shop, and I believe it still is....The seat in the photo however, was sewn and done by a female member of the club and she did an amazing job....
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Posted 2010-05-26 11:07 PM (#225419 - in reply to #225417)
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"Dukeboy",
Just curious,is that shop still around?


I assume your referring to the upholstery shop, and I believe it still is....The seat in the photo however, was sewn and done by a female member of the club and she did an amazing job....


Hi,
Yes I was.that would be cool to have the same shop that did the original movie cars do the interiors for a replica.

The seat in your photo looks great,she did a nice job!

Has your club ever gone on a pilgrimage to all the Christine filming sites?
I wonder if the "factory" in the opening scenes or "Darnells" is still around?
I've always wanted to find that place!
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Posted 2010-05-27 2:16 AM (#225435 - in reply to #225419)
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I wonder if "Darnells" is still around? I've always wanted to find that place!


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Posted 2010-05-27 2:56 AM (#225437 - in reply to #224950)
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okay i have the pics on my computer now, does anyone know how to attatch to this site?
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Posted 2010-05-27 3:00 AM (#225438 - in reply to #224950)
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oh ya, and thanks everyone for the congrats on the car!
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Posted 2010-05-27 6:48 AM (#225444 - in reply to #225419)
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1960DesotoAdventurer - 2010-05-26 10:46 PM

"Dukeboy",
Just curious,is that shop still around?


I assume your referring to the upholstery shop, and I believe it still is....The seat in the photo however, was sewn and done by a female member of the club and she did an amazing job....


Hi,
Yes I was.that would be cool to have the same shop that did the original movie cars do the interiors for a replica.

The seat in your photo looks great,she did a nice job!

Has your club ever gone on a pilgrimage to all the Christine filming sites?
I wonder if the "factory" in the opening scenes or "Darnells" is still around?
I've always wanted to find that place!



Sorry, we have ALL the filming locations, and Darnell's is nothing more than a parking lot now....

However, we have located the infamous "Underpass" scene in the "Death Of Moochie" scene...It is still there..
We found the High School, Dennis' house, Arnie's House, The ABC Store, Now we're working on the Death of Buddy R. scene...
We have the original movie jacket that Arnie wore, and the original movie locations from Alexandra paul....
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Posted 2010-05-27 7:39 AM (#225446 - in reply to #224950)
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When I have to add photos , I write the text than submit it,Than it shows edit , i hit edit and it says add icons etc and than I can down load photos . Try that and HAPPY MOTORING! Victor..


























I need a Plaza Police car to chase my convertible.Love this photo.

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Posted 2010-05-27 8:43 AM (#225452 - in reply to #224950)
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Posted 2010-05-27 1:03 PM (#225477 - in reply to #224950)
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HERE SHE IS
ONCE I DO A LITTLE TLC I WILL POST NEW PICS
FUNNY FEELS LIKE I HAD A NEW BABY AND IM SHOWING HER OFF,LOL

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Posted 2010-05-27 1:09 PM (#225479 - in reply to #224950)
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I NOTICED THAT THE SIDE MIRROR IS IN A DIFFERENT LOCATION ON THE CAR THAN THE ONES IVE SEEN?
WAS THAT CUSTOM?

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Posted 2010-05-27 1:13 PM (#225480 - in reply to #224950)
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You got a good deal there for 16K my friend! Congrats!
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Posted 2010-05-27 1:15 PM (#225481 - in reply to #224950)
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Posted 2010-05-27 2:16 PM (#225487 - in reply to #224950)
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Posted 2010-05-27 2:34 PM (#225492 - in reply to #224950)
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Posted 2010-05-27 5:28 PM (#225526 - in reply to #225492)
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Is it staying red and white ?
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Posted 2010-05-27 6:12 PM (#225531 - in reply to #225479)
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I NOTICED THAT THE SIDE MIRROR IS IN A DIFFERENT LOCATION ON THE CAR THAN THE ONES IVE SEEN?
WAS THAT CUSTOM?
Well, in a way yes, it would be considered "Custom" as somebody installed the incorrect mirror, in the incorrect spot as well...
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Posted 2010-05-27 9:22 PM (#225542 - in reply to #224950)
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ILL PAINT IT NEXT SUMMER, JUST WANT TO TAKE MY TIME WITH HER AND GO THROUGH EVERYTHING
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Posted 2010-05-28 1:46 PM (#225604 - in reply to #225542)
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Hi, AlexTodd - check out my old Belvedere for comparison purposes:

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Posted 2010-05-28 1:51 PM (#225606 - in reply to #225444)
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1960DesotoAdventurer - 2010-05-26 10:46 PM

"Dukeboy",
Just curious,is that shop still around?


I assume your referring to the upholstery shop, and I believe it still is....The seat in the photo however, was sewn and done by a female member of the club and she did an amazing job....


Hi,
Yes I was.that would be cool to have the same shop that did the original movie cars do the interiors for a replica.

The seat in your photo looks great,she did a nice job!

Has your club ever gone on a pilgrimage to all the Christine filming sites?
I wonder if the "factory" in the opening scenes or "Darnells" is still around?
I've always wanted to find that place!



Sorry, we have ALL the filming locations, and Darnell's is nothing more than a parking lot now....

However, we have located the infamous "Underpass" scene in the "Death Of Moochie" scene...It is still there..
We found the High School, Dennis' house, Arnie's House, The ABC Store, Now we're working on the Death of Buddy R. scene...
We have the original movie jacket that Arnie wore, and the original movie locations from Alexandra paul....


Thanks for the info! You sure know a lot about Christine!
Is there a list of the addresses to the filming sites on your clubs webpage?

Wouldnt it be cool to have some of those signs that hung at "Darnells"....wonder what became of all that stuff.

What about the Drive in? where was that located?

I would also like to find the restaraunt seen in the delect segment where Arnie catches Dennis with his girlfriend and rams the side of his car.
(great scene..I wish it wasnt removed from the film)
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alextodd
Posted 2010-05-31 9:15 PM (#225986 - in reply to #224950)
Subject: Re: 1958 PLYMOUTH BELVEDERE 2 DR HT IN SAN FRANCISCO


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THE GAS GAGE DOES NOT WORK ON THE CAR DOES ANY ONE KNOW HOW MILES TO THE GALLON ON THE 318 GETS
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1960DesotoAdventurer
Posted 2010-05-31 9:47 PM (#225991 - in reply to #225986)
Subject: Re: 1958 PLYMOUTH BELVEDERE 2 DR HT IN SAN FRANCISCO



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is it a 2 barrel carb or a four barrel? Torqueflite or powerflite?
I had a 1958 Belvedere sport sedan years back and it had the 2bbl and 318 with torqueflite automatic and if I remember correctly it would get around 17 mpg depending on how it was driven.

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Boris56
Posted 2010-06-01 10:47 AM (#226028 - in reply to #225991)
Subject: Re: 1958 PLYMOUTH BELVEDERE 2 DR HT IN SAN FRANCISCO



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1960DesotoAdventurer - 2010-05-31 9:47 PM

is it a 2 barrel carb or a four barrel? Torqueflite or powerflite?
I had a 1958 Belvedere sport sedan years back and it had the 2bbl and 318 with torqueflite automatic and if I remember correctly it would get around 17 mpg depending on how it was driven.


Right, my old '58 Suburban was a 318 2-barrel with a Torqueflite, and it got 15-18 mpg without fail. I think I coaxed just over 20 mpg out of it on a highway stretch once. Not bad for a V-8 of that era.
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