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rogerh
Posted 2010-06-29 3:59 PM (#230269)
Subject: Need leaf springs for 59 Ply, Interchange?


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Who has an interchange manual, so I can widen my search for leaf springs for my '59 Plymouth.
THanks for any help. roger.d.howard@comcast.net

Edited by rogerh 2010-06-29 4:00 PM
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Sportsman
Posted 2010-06-29 11:12 PM (#230312 - in reply to #230269)
Subject: RE: Need leaf springs for 59 Ply, Interchange?



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By no means am I an expert on the matter, but I do have an interchange manual. Looks like your choices are many.
I'm parting out a number on '59-'60 cars pretty soon, I might be able to help you out if you get stumped on finding parts.

1958-59 Plymouth - Leaf Spring 2 1/2 x 20 x 35

Interchange

DeSoto '57, Firesweep
Dodge '57
Dodge '60, Dart
Dodge '61, except Station Wagon
Dodge '62
Dodge '63, except 880
Lancer '61-'62
Dart '63-'65
Plymouth '57
Plymouth '58-'59, except Station Wagon
Plymouth '60
Plymouth '61, except Station Wagon
Plymouth '62-'63
Valiant '60-'65
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rogerh
Posted 2010-06-30 12:01 AM (#230314 - in reply to #230269)
Subject: Re: Need leaf springs for 59 Ply, Interchange?


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Sportsman, Thank you! Today I visited a wrecking yard and found a 63 Plymouth...preliminary measurements indicated that it was a good donor...your information confirms my belief that this car can give me the springs I need.
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d500neil
Posted 2010-06-30 4:16 PM (#230399 - in reply to #230269)
Subject: Re: Need leaf springs for 59 Ply, Interchange?



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Roger, another trick you can do is: go buy a station wagon's leaf springs, but stack their 5 shorter-leafs
onto your car's main-long leaf (for spring length/perch retention).

You can also mix-match the two sets of leafs, as necessary, as long as the proper-length long-leaf is retained.




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60 dart
Posted 2010-06-30 10:23 PM (#230461 - in reply to #230269)
Subject: Re: Need leaf springs for 59 Ply, Interchange?



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they are on ebay all the time---------------------------------------go by size------------------------------------------------------------------later
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rogerh
Posted 2010-07-01 12:14 AM (#230479 - in reply to #230269)
Subject: Re: Need leaf springs for 59 Ply, Interchange?


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go by size...what does that mean, Chuck?
Neil, I have no correct springs at the moment, so can't do your mis-n-match stacking idea. I spent 2+ hours removing springs from 63 Plymouth, then upon my return home I ws met with email from reputable source saying these won't fit. So what ARE the measurements...I thought 55" center to center was correct...(given by fellow '59 cvt owner).
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BHWINC
Posted 2010-07-01 7:58 AM (#230525 - in reply to #230269)
Subject: Re: Need leaf springs for 59 Ply, Interchange?



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The front bushings are going to be different between what the 59 1-3/8 x1 had and what the 63 springs have 2x1''.
The only drop in springs are
57 Desoto Firesweep
57 Dodge Pass
57 Plymouth except Standard susp 6 cyl coupe & sdn
58-59 Plymouth 6 cyl hvy duty susp & Taxi (exe Suburban)
59-59 8 cyl (exe Suburban)

Edited by BHWINC 2010-07-01 8:02 AM
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rogerh
Posted 2010-07-01 10:41 AM (#230547 - in reply to #230269)
Subject: Re: Need leaf springs for 59 Ply, Interchange?


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Thank you for that, BHWINC.
I took the front brackets and bushings with the springs...will these brackets fit the '59 Ply frame holes? Will I need to salvage any other suspension part from the donor car before I hand this project over to a garage having a hoist?
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rogerh
Posted 2010-07-01 10:43 AM (#230548 - in reply to #230269)
Subject: Re: Need leaf springs for 59 Ply, Interchange?


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I did not get the rear shackles or bushings off the donor car (because they were missing). Will my existing shackles and bushings work?
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BHWINC
Posted 2010-07-01 1:14 PM (#230568 - in reply to #230269)
Subject: Re: Need leaf springs for 59 Ply, Interchange?



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Roger
I don't know if the front hardware will bolt up or not. simply guessing, I would guess they would.

You didn't say which model 63 you took the springs from so a quick search of Napa on line for a 63 Belvedere turned up the following shackle specs. Which they show as the same for 59 Plymouth
NCP 2741141
http://www.napaonline.com/Search/Detail.aspx?A=NCP2741141_013101374...


Edited by BHWINC 2010-07-01 1:20 PM
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rogerh
Posted 2010-07-01 1:48 PM (#230571 - in reply to #230269)
Subject: Re: Need leaf springs for 59 Ply, Interchange?


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Going by the full length body side molding, the donor car is a Belvedere. I dont know how to post pics here, but some pics are posted on 59Sportfury site. Hey, that link you sent (with photo and number of part!) of my local Napa store is great! and the parts price is right!

Edited by rogerh 2010-07-01 2:50 PM
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d500neil
Posted 2010-07-01 2:43 PM (#230578 - in reply to #230571)
Subject: Re: Need leaf springs for 59 Ply, Interchange?



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Roger, Atlas auto is selling (not-cheaply, but COMPLETELY) a rear leaf spring shackle/bushing/etc package,
which I've considered buying, because installing it, along with stripped and repainted leaf springs, will produce a
completely-restored/show-quality-looking leaf spring assemblies.

Having 100% new hardware, along with restored leaf springs, will dramatically improve a car's undercarriage appearance,
and at/with relatively little hassle-complications in the process.



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60 dart
Posted 2010-07-01 4:32 PM (#230591 - in reply to #230269)
Subject: Re: Need leaf springs for 59 Ply, Interchange?



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go to ebay , search dart leaf springs , 5 and 6 leaf

Edited by 60 dart 2010-07-01 4:36 PM
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Beltran
Posted 2010-07-01 10:19 PM (#230640 - in reply to #230269)
Subject: Re: Need leaf springs for 59 Ply, Interchange?



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Springs & Things site. Got my brand new fronts and rears with all required hardware for 550 bucks including the shipping to my house. Car rides WONDERFULLY. They have more than what is listed on the site. Just call them and they will probably have everything you could need.

http://www.springsnthings.com/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=...

For additional information, exact pricing for your vehicle, shipping costs or to place an order, please call (800) 903-9019 or (570) 672-9413 Mon-Thurs 10:00 AM-5:00 PM; Fri 10:00 AM-Noon Eastern Time
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rogerh
Posted 2010-07-07 11:31 PM (#231602 - in reply to #230269)
Subject: Re: Need leaf springs for 59 Ply, Interchange?


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Chuck, I do not understand your measurements...you are a man of few words...2 1/2" I get that (width). 20 signifies what?, likewise 35?
The springs off the '63 Belvedere are 2 1/2" wide by 55-57" length (varies depending on weight applied)
Beltran, I have to go the poormans's route on this issue, but thank you for the info

Edited by rogerh 2010-07-07 11:33 PM
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BHWINC
Posted 2010-07-08 7:07 AM (#231625 - in reply to #230269)
Subject: Re: Need leaf springs for 59 Ply, Interchange?



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Springs are measured from the center of the front eye to the center of the pearch stud/pin. Following the contour of the main leaf "20"
From the center of the center pin/bolt to the center rear eye, again following the contour of the main leaf is 35" thus you get 20"x35"
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rogerh
Posted 2010-07-08 11:33 PM (#231731 - in reply to #230269)
Subject: Re: Need leaf springs for 59 Ply, Interchange?


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thank you for the information!
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