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Location: Plymouth Spaceport | The cardboard package tray on my Plymouth is crumbling in several places and I want to replace it.
Who reproduces these and what do they run?
Has anyone here made their own?
I was considering going to the hardware store and buying a sheet of Masonite and making one,but thought I'd check here first and see what others have used. |
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Location: Big pimpin' | I made mine out of Actual CARDBOARD...They call it "Die board" from metal fab shops..It's what they use to make the patterns for the cutting dies...This also works well for Door panels and kick panels...
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Location: Melbourne, Australia | I made my own from "Nelson board" 2mm thick cardboad. Recommended by upholterer. Then upholstered. Masonite was too thick. The Nelson board could tuck under the rear window rubber and is reasonably flexible.
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Location: Blythewood, SC | Reproduction parts. That's funny.
You can get different thicknesses of masonite. You can also get lauan which is very thin plywood. |
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Location: Plymouth Spaceport | Thanks for the input.
I'll try to find some of that die board / Nelson board material to make one from,unless I can find some thinner Masonite.
The only sheet they had big enough at the hardware store was very thick.
I had only wondered if someone made a repro of it because I had seen repro kick panels on eBay before for $19.99
I actually just made a pair for my car from Masonite using an old one for a pattern.
Since my package shelf is crumbling into pieces there isn't much chance of being able to use it as a pattern to create a new one.
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Location: Michigan | Funny timing, I was just about to ask advice on this topic. Anyone know what type of material came on these originally- vinyl, cloth, textured or smooth? A photo would be great, pristine or ratty condition. I'm not a fanatic about originality but I'd like to get as close as possible. |
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Location: Montreal, Canada | I don't have a better pic than this one, but I can vouch for the originality of this one, as my car is a 35k miles unrestored survivor. My car is equivalent to a US 1959 Plymouth Belvedere sedan.
The package tray is made of textured cardboard, with the two "buttons" that you can see here on the picture.
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Location: Michigan | Thanks "Soiouz", I'm surprised its just cardboard with no covering. The condition of your interior is amazing, these survivors always leave me stunned.
Hey "1960desotoadventurer" , my non original package tray cardboard was warped and wavy so I removed it. Was gonna try and soak it in water then lay it under something flat and heavy so I could make a template for new stuff. If you need I could probly trace it onto paper and send it your way, would still need trimming but might be easier than starting from scratch. Let me know. |
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Location: Montreal, Canada | Great Lakes Belv - 2010-12-11 8:14 PM
Thanks "Soiouz", I'm surprised its just cardboard with no covering. The condition of your interior is amazing, these survivors always leave me stunned.
Thanks!
Yes, it's just cardboard, and as such, it's quite fragile actually. My wife almost ruined it one day because she tought it was covered in vinyl and wanted to clean it up with a good amount of water!... By chance, I prevented her from doing it before it was too late! ;-)
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Location: Plymouth Spaceport | Thanks! That would be great!
I'll send you a pm
My DeSotos tray surprisingly survived in very nice shape and it's green like "Soiouiz" '59.
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Location: Montreal, Canada | 1960DesotoAdventurer - 2010-12-11 9:09 PM
Thanks! That would be great!
I'll send you a pm
My DeSotos tray surprisingly survived in very nice shape and it's green like "Soiouiz" '59.
The colours are way off on my photo there, I apologize... my car's tray is actually light grey, same colour and material as the kick panels..
Here a pic of those:
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Location: Melbourne, Australia | Soiouz, I love survivor cars like yours too. So rare !!!
Just wanted to add that after I made the rear package tray from Nelson board and the interior door panels from 3mm MDF (manmade - medium density fibreboard),I coated each side with 3 coats of varnish/estapol. Soaked right in and makes them waterproof. I've never seen a leakproof Mopar yet !!!
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Location: Plymouth Spaceport | 57plybel - 2010-12-11 9:13 PM
Soiouz, I love survivor cars like yours too. So rare !!!
Just wanted to add that after I made the rear package tray from Nelson board and the interior door panels from 3mm MDF (manmade - medium density fibreboard),I coated each side with 3 coats of varnish/estapol. Soaked right in and makes them waterproof. I've never seen a leakproof Mopar yet !!!
Colin
That's a good idea, just in case  water should get in. |
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Location: Plymouth Spaceport | soiouz - 2010-12-11 9:11 PM
1960DesotoAdventurer - 2010-12-11 9:09 PM
Thanks! That would be great!
I'll send you a pm
My DeSotos tray surprisingly survived in very nice shape and it's green like "Soiouiz" '59.
The colours are way off on my photo there, I apologize... my car's tray is actually light grey, same colour and material as the kick panels..
Here a pic of those:
It's funny it took Chrysler until 1960 to start making the kick panels out of metal. |
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Location: Vancouver, BC | 1960DesotoAdventurer - 2010-12-11 9:21 PM
soiouz - 2010-12-11 9:11 PM
1960DesotoAdventurer - 2010-12-11 9:09 PM
Thanks! That would be great!
I'll send you a pm
My DeSotos tray surprisingly survived in very nice shape and it's green like "Soiouiz" '59.
The colours are way off on my photo there, I apologize... my car's tray is actually light grey, same colour and material as the kick panels..
Here a pic of those:
It's funny it took Chrysler until 1960 to start making the kick panels out of metal.
Metal? Kick panels from the early 1960's I have seen are made from some sort of wood fiber. They desintegate when they are wet too long. Chrysler went to molded plastic in the late 1960's or early 1970's.
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Location: Etters Pa | Kick Panels
My 60 Matador has carboard, my 60 Desoto has metal. and a 62 Newport I parted had plastic.
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Location: Plymouth Spaceport | Chrycoman - 2010-12-12 2:55 PM
1960DesotoAdventurer - 2010-12-11 9:21 PM
soiouz - 2010-12-11 9:11 PM
1960DesotoAdventurer - 2010-12-11 9:09 PM
Thanks! That would be great!
I'll send you a pm
My DeSotos tray surprisingly survived in very nice shape and it's green like "Soiouiz" '59.
The colours are way off on my photo there, I apologize... my car's tray is actually light grey, same colour and material as the kick panels..
Here a pic of those:
It's funny it took Chrysler until 1960 to start making the kick panels out of metal.
Metal? Kick panels from the early 1960's I have seen are made from some sort of wood fiber. They desintegate when they are wet too long. Chrysler went to molded plastic in the late 1960's or early 1970's.
Yes,my 1960 DeSoto has metal kick panels!
I know 1960 Chryslers had them as well,not sure what other models have them. |
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Location: Under the X in Texas | Restoration Specialties and Supply in Windber, PA, is one supplier of the correct cardboard material as originally used in our cars. The product is properly called "cowlboard" and is in their catalog.
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Location: Michigan | MANY thanks for sharing that website address!!! (Restoration Specialties and Supply)
They have all kinds of oddball stuff, even parts for my 1973 Dodge Monaco I never thought I'd be able to find!
I highly recommend everyone here check out the catalog. |
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Location: Alberta Canada | mine's not cardboard anymore-it's thin plywood with a vinyl is "kinda final" covering.Works well and decent acoustics. |
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