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sermey
Posted 2010-12-16 5:24 PM (#253529)
Subject: Modeling my 59 Dodge in 3D-CAD


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I have started modeling my '59 Dodge. I have the technology, the know-how, some time for do this, and last but not least - the authentic car in my home.

In Internet I found some other models, some of them very nice, but most from drawings or pictures, therefore not exact and looking artificially. I would like to do it perfect, as my car, with the correct dimensions, and in real-view technology. This designs could as well be used for direct tooling and professional reproduction.

 This will take some time, and one day hopefully, the '59 Dodge will stay here like an Original!

 The first problem is to get the correct dimensions, curves and shapes. The next problem is to put these original "hand-designed" data geometrically in the system. What remains is puzzle. I will start with the more complex chrome parts, emblems, and then go on to the body. All the pictures shown here will be unexpectionally 3D-Cad Designs.

May-be there are Members with the similar potential in supporting this objective, using SolidWorks, or does some parts have already been designed?





(01 CAD 1959 HubCap Front1.jpg)



(02 CAD 1959 HubCap Front2.jpg)



(03 CAD 1959 HubCap Rear1.jpg)



(04 CAD 1959 HubCap Rear2.jpg)



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Attachments 01 CAD 1959 HubCap Front1.jpg (70KB - 234 downloads)
Attachments 02 CAD 1959 HubCap Front2.jpg (68KB - 234 downloads)
Attachments 03 CAD 1959 HubCap Rear1.jpg (54KB - 216 downloads)
Attachments 04 CAD 1959 HubCap Rear2.jpg (54KB - 213 downloads)
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ttotired
Posted 2010-12-16 5:35 PM (#253531 - in reply to #253529)
Subject: Re: Modeling my 59 Dodge in 3D-CAD



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I wish you the best of luck.

That would really be hard to do. Be good if you could use a laser or microwave or something like that (like a surveyeyer uses) to sort of slice the car up didgitally.

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Posted 2010-12-17 1:47 AM (#253561 - in reply to #253529)
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This, is hard-core dedication!! Amazing Serge!
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Posted 2010-12-17 6:09 AM (#253569 - in reply to #253529)
Subject: RE: Modeling my 59 Dodge in 3D-CAD



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sermey - 2010-12-16 5:24 PM

All the pictures shown here will be unexpectionally 3D-Cad Designs.



Wow, I didn't expect that, but I'm sure they will be of exceptional quality!

How many hours have you spent on the hubcap already?
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Posted 2010-12-17 6:19 AM (#253571 - in reply to #253569)
Subject: RE: Modeling my 59 Dodge in 3D-CAD



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This kind of thing will make reproduction of parts easy.
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ttotired
Posted 2010-12-20 8:15 AM (#253898 - in reply to #253529)
Subject: Re: Modeling my 59 Dodge in 3D-CAD



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How does it do it? The first one has reflections in it. I thought it was all measurement based or something. I have to admit to knowing nothing about CAD

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Posted 2010-12-20 10:01 PM (#253992 - in reply to #253529)
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And someday they'll make a machine to produce a car from the CAD data. One part down, a few more to go. Looking good!
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Posted 2010-12-21 12:04 AM (#253998 - in reply to #253529)
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Very cool. When complete, please share your cad file with us. I would love for my office to add a '59 Dodge to our architectural renderings. (might help distract the viewer from any bad architecture!)
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sermey
Posted 2010-12-21 12:22 PM (#254060 - in reply to #253531)
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ttotired: Be good if you could use a laser or microwave . . .  

Just for have it in 3D could work for some parts (not for a HubCap as shown), similar to a scanned photo. Have a look at parts being reproduced with Originals as Master, most of them visibla as Copy and not as not as Original.
To copy, as I do here, is not creative at all. But but the way, the tool and the stunning results are a challenge for the brain.and as well an enjoyment.

ttotired: The first one has reflections in it . . .

Scenes and material can be assigned to the model. Here I used "warm kitchen" for remove the technical aspect, and "polished chrome" for an Original look.

The rear side is matt with no reflections, as the Original HubCap.(material could be stone, rubber, wood, or whatever).

1956DeS:  And someday they'll make a machine to produce a car from the CAD data.

I think may-be  .. in 50 years? But in reduced size as did Cadi with one of there cars, and with other Engine/Suspension and Electronics. But overall looking exact same!

And these files can be used for direct tooling (without dimensions, or direct sampling with Stereo-Lithography)

slimwhitman:  . . . please share your cad file with us.  . .

With eDrawing (free download), the parts can be viewed. rotated, zoomed and as well automatic displayed in various views as for show.


Wizard: Thank you for the encouragement!- SERGE -



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sermey
Posted 2010-12-21 1:06 PM (#254065 - in reply to #253529)
Subject: RE: Modeling my 59 Dodge in 3D-CAD


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Here is just one HeadLamp Ring. The other can simply be mirrored as many other Car Parts to come.
Who is owner of a 1959 Dodge can easy compare this design with the Original. There are minor differences from one part to the other, even the rings are not exactly round.

Here I did it "correct"!  (All pictures shown are PrintScreens and reduced in Size)



Edited by sermey 2010-12-21 1:11 PM




(01 CAD 1959 HeadLamp Ring Front.jpg)



(02 CAD 1959 HeadLamp Ring Rear.jpg)



(03 CAD 1959 HeadLamp Ring Center.jpg)



(04 CAD 1959 HeadLamp Ring Mounts.jpg)



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Attachments 01 CAD 1959 HeadLamp Ring Front.jpg (66KB - 241 downloads)
Attachments 02 CAD 1959 HeadLamp Ring Rear.jpg (56KB - 248 downloads)
Attachments 03 CAD 1959 HeadLamp Ring Center.jpg (61KB - 264 downloads)
Attachments 04 CAD 1959 HeadLamp Ring Mounts.jpg (46KB - 243 downloads)
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BigBlockMopar
Posted 2010-12-21 2:14 PM (#254072 - in reply to #253529)
Subject: Re: Modeling my 59 Dodge in 3D-CAD



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As an owner now of a '59 Dodge in parts I will be comparing your work against the real deal...

Here's my 'rendering' of parts...



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ttotired
Posted 2010-12-21 6:11 PM (#254094 - in reply to #253529)
Subject: Re: Modeling my 59 Dodge in 3D-CAD



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I downloaded eDraw so now I will play with it to see how it works.

Hats off to you!!!

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sermey
Posted 2010-12-22 4:48 AM (#254130 - in reply to #254094)
Subject: Re: Modeling my 59 Dodge in 3D-CAD


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ttotired - 2010-12-22 12:11 AM Sermey I downloaded eDraw so now I will play with it to see how it works. Hats off to you!!! Mick

I put you an eDrawing File with the Coil Support as shown in "My Electronic Ignition Conversion". The downloaded eDrawing doesn't support RealView, thus no reflective Chrome . For this you will need the professional version (not free). Anyway, everyone here, I recommend,  can check this tool to get a feeling what is real 3D-CAD, and look how it works  - amazing to play with. - SERGE -



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sermey
Posted 2010-12-22 4:57 AM (#254131 - in reply to #254072)
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BigBlockMopar - 2010-12-21 8:14 PM As an owner now of a '59 Dodge in parts I will be comparing your work against the real deal... Here's my 'rendering' of parts...

Impressive all these nice rechromed parts. You will enjoy mounting them as I did some years ago. Now I will enjoy as well when assembling my CAD-Parts. The difference, I will keep clean hands and drink my coffee simultaneously. - SERGE -   :laugh:



Edited by sermey 2010-12-22 11:48 AM
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ttotired
Posted 2010-12-22 6:30 AM (#254133 - in reply to #253529)
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Thats cool, love it. I should try to learn it one day, could help me with my work

Thanks

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sermey
Posted 2010-12-22 10:54 AM (#254150 - in reply to #253529)
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This is the TAG-Plate of my 1959 DODGE Convertible, as already shown in another thread. But this one is revised:
The character of the letters and there position is adapted to the Original. Then the plate has the correct border, and what was very critical to realize, on the rear of the plate, the letters are "stamped" as in production.

Edited by sermey 2010-12-22 11:46 AM




(01 CAD 1959 TAG-Plate Front.jpg)



(02 CAD 1959 TAG-Plate Rear.jpg)



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Posted 2010-12-22 11:01 AM (#254151 - in reply to #253529)
Subject: RE: Modeling my 59 Dodge in 3D-CAD



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Man, that's in really great shape for being 91 years old!!

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Posted 2010-12-22 3:55 PM (#254179 - in reply to #254151)
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Whoa! Absolutely fantastic! When you are finished with the 3D-CAD drawings of the '59 Dodge, can you make a 3D-CAD model of Amanda Peet?
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sermey
Posted 2010-12-26 10:33 AM (#254606 - in reply to #253529)
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Going on modeling some other parts, I weighted the Rear Lamp Body, well-known by every owner of a 1959 Dogde. I measured exactly 1000 grams, say 1 kg. BigBlockMopar will kindly check and confirm this value.

On the CAD Rear Lamp Body I have assigned the Material   "Zinc, As Cast" and got a weight of 1044.09 grams. Then I assigned as well plastic "ABS", as used for rechromed plastics, and got a weight of 158.95 grams. Means, alone these 4 Bodies, reproduced in Rechromed Plastics, would reduce 3.36 kg of the cars weight, the volume and the surface area of this Body remaining the same.

Impressive numbers!  



Edited by sermey 2010-12-26 10:58 AM




(01 CAD 1959 RearLamp Weight Zinc.jpg)



(02 CAD 1959 RearLamp Weight ABS.jpg)



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BigBlockMopar
Posted 2010-12-26 5:33 PM (#254643 - in reply to #253529)
Subject: RE: Modeling my 59 Dodge in 3D-CAD



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I don't have a scale in my garage to measure that but maybe I could make a balance with a liter of water to see how close it is to a kilo. Don't you love how logical the metric is guys...
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sermey
Posted 2011-01-02 4:49 PM (#255473 - in reply to #253529)
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This tricky "game" I expected to be easier - finally I got it.  The Rear Lamp Unit: Body, Lens, Seal, Ring, Screws. All modeled in a Single Multipart File.   

The three asymmetrical mounting studs I replaced with four symmetrical ones, for a mounting in any position of the car: right side top, right side bottom, and on the left side correspondingly. I also removed the rear injection points around the Lamp Socket.


One more perfect "restored" Unit on the way to the virtual 1959 DODGE.  - SERGE -

I added eDrawing-Files: PanHead Screw, 1959 Rear Lamp Seal, 1959 Rear Lamp Ring, as illustrated here. The Rear Lamp Ring can be seen on the car in the thread  "Make-up your Car".



Edited by sermey 2011-01-02 5:42 PM




(01 CAD 1959 Rear Lamp Unit.jpg)



(02 CAD 1959 Section View.jpg)



(03 CAD 1959 Body Removed.jpg)



(04 CAD 1959 Lens DODGE Script.jpg)



(05 CAD 1959 Lamp Rear View.jpg)



(06 CAD 1959 Rear Lamp Up View.jpg)



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Attachments 01 CAD 1959 Rear Lamp Unit.jpg (73KB - 256 downloads)
Attachments 02 CAD 1959 Section View.jpg (81KB - 249 downloads)
Attachments 03 CAD 1959 Body Removed.jpg (70KB - 236 downloads)
Attachments 04 CAD 1959 Lens DODGE Script.jpg (97KB - 259 downloads)
Attachments 05 CAD 1959 Lamp Rear View.jpg (74KB - 246 downloads)
Attachments 06 CAD 1959 Rear Lamp Up View.jpg (63KB - 250 downloads)
Attachments Short Screw PanHead D3.5mm.EPRT (280KB - 242 downloads)
Attachments 1959 Rear Lamp Seal.EPRT (72KB - 248 downloads)
Attachments 1959 Rear Lamp Ring.EPRT (107KB - 278 downloads)
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BigBlockMopar
Posted 2011-01-02 5:25 PM (#255475 - in reply to #253529)
Subject: Re: Modeling my 59 Dodge in 3D-CAD



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Looks very nice!
I see one error though...!

The thread on the screw in the 3rd pic is lefthand thread! ...
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Posted 2011-01-02 5:29 PM (#255476 - in reply to #253529)
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Absolutely fantastic - it's so beautiful!
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sermey
Posted 2011-01-02 5:41 PM (#255479 - in reply to #255475)
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BigBlockMopar - 2011-01-02 11:25 PM Looks very nice! I see one error though...! The thread on the screw in the 3rd pic is lefthand thread! ...

Congrat Hermann, you are very observant. In fact, because I did this set as a MultiPart in a single file, I just "mirrored" the screw and got therefore a second one with lefthand thread. Now I will "array" the screw and both will have righthand thread  - thanks.



Edited by sermey 2011-01-03 2:47 AM
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sermey
Posted 2011-01-05 4:51 AM (#255817 - in reply to #253529)
Subject: RE: Modeling my 59 Dodge in 3D-CAD


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This Parking Lens may be one of the easiest parts to model: just sketch the profile and revolve.

Often broken, they are hard to find NOS and thus quite expensive. The reproductions, available on the market, are silver painted on the outern surface, instead chrome plated as original. Here you see it correctly.

On my DODGE I use another lense, will be shown later on in the assembly. For security reasons, in Switzerland this light should be visible at a side angle of 150deg.





(01 CAD 1959 Parking Lens Front View .jpg)



(02 CAD 1959 Parking Lens Rear View.jpg)



(03 CAD 1959 Parking Lens Section View.jpg)



(04 CAD 1959 Parking Lens Intransparent.jpg)



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Attachments 01 CAD 1959 Parking Lens Front View .jpg (83KB - 257 downloads)
Attachments 02 CAD 1959 Parking Lens Rear View.jpg (89KB - 251 downloads)
Attachments 03 CAD 1959 Parking Lens Section View.jpg (80KB - 239 downloads)
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sermey
Posted 2011-01-15 3:05 PM (#257090 - in reply to #253529)
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This is the 1959 Front Grill, in brushed Aluminium. Here I omitted the upper fixing tabs and the stabilizers on the rear for a nicer aspect.

The Front is center-angeled by 5 degree, not remarkable on the car. The Chrome Bars left and right hand, here not shown, are parallel and thus have as well a 5deg angle each other.





(01 CAD 1959 Grill Perspective View.jpg)



(02 CAD 1959 Grill Left Front End.jpg)



(03 CAD 1959 Grill Left Rear End.jpg)



(04 CAD 1959 Grill Exact Front View.jpg)



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Attachments 01 CAD 1959 Grill Perspective View.jpg (83KB - 261 downloads)
Attachments 02 CAD 1959 Grill Left Front End.jpg (86KB - 254 downloads)
Attachments 03 CAD 1959 Grill Left Rear End.jpg (83KB - 244 downloads)
Attachments 04 CAD 1959 Grill Exact Front View.jpg (92KB - 256 downloads)
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sermey
Posted 2011-01-23 10:38 AM (#258033 - in reply to #253529)
Subject: RE: Modeling my 59 Dodge in 3D-CAD


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This Collar on the Front Position Lamps was optional only on the  '59 Custom Royal. Original there is an upper and a lower half. Here you see the right side Collar. To get the left side one it has to be mirrored.
For an uniform view from side, this Collar here is modeled in one piece and is just cut as original, only on one, the inner side; thus being fixed with only 3 screws. On my car the full round Collar has 23 teeth as on the model - on some Original Brochures I counted less.

This is a very rare part to find, here guaranteed pits-free! - SERGE - 



Edited by sermey 2011-01-23 2:24 PM




(01 CAD 1959 Collar Front View.jpg)



(02 CAD 1959 Collar Front Wire View.jpg)



(03 CAD 1959 Collar Matte Side View.jpg)



(04 CAD 1959 Collar View Cut Side.jpg)



(05 CAD 1959 Collar Rear View.jpg)



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Attachments 01 CAD 1959 Collar Front View.jpg (74KB - 235 downloads)
Attachments 02 CAD 1959 Collar Front Wire View.jpg (86KB - 247 downloads)
Attachments 03 CAD 1959 Collar Matte Side View.jpg (53KB - 245 downloads)
Attachments 04 CAD 1959 Collar View Cut Side.jpg (69KB - 260 downloads)
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BigBlockMopar
Posted 2011-01-23 12:34 PM (#258043 - in reply to #253529)
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Sweet. Nice progress!

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sermey
Posted 2011-01-29 2:12 PM (#258861 - in reply to #253529)
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For variation now a part that can be used, as option, on all FWL-Cars: the Dual Rear Antenna, here shown the left side one as set,  the right side one mirrored as shown in the last picture

An ingenious concept, combined with a full free surface modeling technology, allowed this complex shape to be implemented quite fast. Thus, I added more details inside the Antenna Body.
The Antenna Bar correspond to my upgraded Automatic Device, I may show it here later on.

On the other hand, here the Antenna Gasket as described in "Make-up your Car!". This Gasket can be mounted without the complicated dissassembling of the the antenna. The 3 cut-out angle have 100deg (+), the partial length are 169.5 + 171 + 25.1 = 365.6mm, the outer circumference has 367.75mm. For a better visibility I did the gaps wider than in reality. A separate file of this gasket is attached for eDrawing (free download this application SW).

Here another nice model, hard to identify differences to the Original. Many car owners are looking for this Rear Dual Antenna, and when once available - hardly affordable.
Unfortunately, here you can just see it - but not take it! - SERGE - 


Edited by sermey 2011-01-30 5:30 AM




(01 CAD 1959 Rear Antenna Unit - Out.jpg)



(02 CAD 1959 Rear Antenna Unit - In.jpg)



(03 CAD 1959 Rear Antenna Body Removed.jpg)



(04 CAD 1959 Rear Antenna Transparent View2.jpg)



(05 CAD 1959 Rear Antenna Transparent View3.jpg)



(06 CAD 1959 Rear Antenna Body Bottom View.jpg)



(07 CAD 1959 Rear Antenna Section View.jpg)



(08 CAD 1959 Rear Antenna Gasket Profile.jpg)



(09 CAD 1959 Rear Antenna Gasket Mounted.jpg)



(10 CAD 1959 Rear Antenna Dual R + L.jpg)



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Attachments 01 CAD 1959 Rear Antenna Unit - Out.jpg (39KB - 254 downloads)
Attachments 02 CAD 1959 Rear Antenna Unit - In.jpg (63KB - 282 downloads)
Attachments 03 CAD 1959 Rear Antenna Body Removed.jpg (61KB - 264 downloads)
Attachments 04 CAD 1959 Rear Antenna Transparent View2.jpg (61KB - 255 downloads)
Attachments 05 CAD 1959 Rear Antenna Transparent View3.jpg (75KB - 250 downloads)
Attachments 06 CAD 1959 Rear Antenna Body Bottom View.jpg (62KB - 263 downloads)
Attachments 07 CAD 1959 Rear Antenna Section View.jpg (59KB - 253 downloads)
Attachments 08 CAD 1959 Rear Antenna Gasket Profile.jpg (56KB - 256 downloads)
Attachments 09 CAD 1959 Rear Antenna Gasket Mounted.jpg (62KB - 260 downloads)
Attachments 10 CAD 1959 Rear Antenna Dual R + L.jpg (70KB - 267 downloads)
Attachments Rear Antenna Gasket.EPRT (128KB - 257 downloads)
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Posted 2011-01-29 3:47 PM (#258872 - in reply to #253529)
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Posted 2011-01-29 6:53 PM (#258888 - in reply to #253529)
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You are right

Try as I might, I could not reach into the screen and take them

darn lol

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sermey
Posted 2011-01-30 5:24 AM (#258934 - in reply to #258872)
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wizard - 2011-01-29 9:47 PM I'm flabbergasted by the beauty in those pictures . . .
. . . as I am with many excellent jobs shown on this site.

I even barely believed to get such authentic models.

To be honest: For doing this, no High School is needed, for it is not an engineering, but simply a copy of an existing part. As everyone with some know-how in applied Mechanics is able to restore a car, as well everyone with some Know-How in descriptive Geometry can translate a part to a model. Both need the correct tools and the way to use them, some creativity and the motivation to bring the ambitious aim to an end. It is like a game you want to win.

At the end all are flabbergasted of their own incredible results.  - SERGE -
 



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Posted 2011-01-31 1:41 PM (#259094 - in reply to #253529)
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To be correct, here the Original Rear Antenna Gasket. I found a pair of Repros, not used, because they are too big (up to 3mm too long), the reason for the alternative. They are equal, although the base is not symmetric. Here the Original is exact to the corresponding base.
I feel this look "softer", but not applicable without removing the antenna. Just find another profile for the alternative. Compare and judge yourself on the second picture.

I added as well an eDrawing file of this Original Gasket, hopely the producer will use this for direct tooling. - SERGE -


Edited by sermey 2011-02-01 1:34 AM




(01 CAD 1959 Original Rear Antenna Gasket.jpg)



(02 CAD 1959 Comparison Rear Antenna Gaskets.jpg)



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Attachments 01 CAD 1959 Original Rear Antenna Gasket.jpg (53KB - 280 downloads)
Attachments 02 CAD 1959 Comparison Rear Antenna Gaskets.jpg (86KB - 263 downloads)
Attachments Rear Antenna Original Gasket.EPRT (99KB - 234 downloads)
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sermey
Posted 2011-02-07 5:57 PM (#260030 - in reply to #253529)
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Among the three Side Mouldings, Front - Door - Rear, the Front one is particular due to the various end. The rear end of the Long Rear Moulding is as well curved in order to fit the fender.  Apart this, the profile is simple and the length is just another number to program. For a 2- door car: 398mm - 1234mm - 2375mm,  important to know when bidding in eBay!

- SERGE -





(01 CAD 1959 Front Moulding Front View.jpg)



(02 CAD 1959 Side Moulding Profile.jpg)



(03 CAD 1959 Front Moulding Curved End.jpg)



(04 CAD 1959 Front Moulding Other End 45deg.jpg)



(05 CAD 1959 Door Moulding End 90deg.jpg)



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sermey
Posted 2011-02-13 4:31 PM (#260899 - in reply to #253529)
Subject: RE: Modeling my 59 Dodge in 3D-CAD


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Not apparently on the car the slanted rear of the Front PositionLamp Bodies. Here I omitted the mounting brackets, much more complex and heavy than the body, not needed for my assembling to come.

Apart from that the shape is as the original. - SERGE -





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wizard
Posted 2011-02-14 1:23 AM (#260967 - in reply to #253529)
Subject: Re: Modeling my 59 Dodge in 3D-CAD



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This thread is soo kool! Have you demounted the parts from your car, or do you measure on your spar parts Serge?
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Posted 2011-02-14 3:18 AM (#260973 - in reply to #253529)
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Wow. I am working with a little project on my company, preprocessing point clouds from laser scanning data. It is amazing what new programs can do. If I only had possibility to use scanner and some time to play....
Those models are wonderful! Keep up the good work!
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sermey
Posted 2011-02-14 4:55 AM (#260975 - in reply to #260967)
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Wizard: Until now I used spare parts, and I didn't disaembled parts from the car jet. I don't have a spare Door Handle and will just model what is visible, as well with other parts. Later on I can add what is missing, as the mounting brackets on the Body of the Front PositionLamp. The exact position of the items for the assembling I measure on my car.

As can be seen on some shown parts , the chrome is very shiny and on others not. When very shiny, the problem is mirroring the ambient, as when take pictures from chrome parts. Then the real shape is hardly visible. Thus, the shown Side Mouldings have removed ambient, or the mirroring profile will narrate. On the pictures you can easy recognize if there is a model or a real part, when inside a part there is unrealistic the same light and ambient. There I could add "matte chrome" as I did on the rear of the HubCap. This one looks amazing as an Original.

JT Newman: By scanning parts you get a model with all blemishes of the part due to the production process and the non-linear shrinking of the molds. A reproduction using a scanned or impressed part will experience a second shrinking. In a new part the shrinking factor is taken into account by selecting the material. On the other side, a scanned part can as well be (up-) scaled.

 - SERGE -



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Posted 2011-02-14 3:12 PM (#261016 - in reply to #253529)
Subject: RE: Modeling my 59 Dodge in 3D-CAD


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Before mounting my new Power Windows Switch I just put them in the Computer. Full geometrical devices, easy and fast to realise, even with all sizes 1 -2 - 3 - 4. I never saw a 3 Switch one, so could even do a 5 Switch item. Here I present only the Front View of the four Versions.  - SERGE -

For the freaks I have attached an eDrawing file with the single and quadro version (just the front due to file size) for play with. Now I have downloaded this pre-checked file, the remaining file name has to be renamed with the extension .EPRT (CAD -> CAD.EPRT). You may need to upgrade your eDrawing-Viewer to 2011 (for free in Internet). Please some feedback. Thanks.



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sermey
Posted 2011-02-18 10:26 AM (#261479 - in reply to #260899)
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. . .  Apart from that the shape is as the original. . . No, when assembling with the collar I saw one step wasn't cut-out on the lower side. Just cut both in one operation. I think this is for not touch the Front Bumper or for tighten the screws. Not nice, could even remove in the model. 



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sermey
Posted 2011-02-19 3:17 PM (#261605 - in reply to #253529)
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After completing the Front Bar I can present a first Assembly of the Front. I removed the shown Step Cut, as well on the lower side of the Front Bar, for a nicer aspect. In the Computer all is done with real dimensions 1 :1. For the first time, the owners of a 1959 Dodge can check if their Front Components are aligned correctly.

- SERGE -

 



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wizard
Posted 2011-02-19 4:11 PM (#261620 - in reply to #253529)
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Kool Serge, will you do the sheetmetal as well? A body in white (raw metal) perhaps?
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sermey
Posted 2011-02-20 5:00 AM (#261663 - in reply to #261620)
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wizard - 2011-02-19 10:11 PM . . . will you do the sheetmetal as well? . . .

The objective is to have one day all the complete car, what is visible. The biggest job (games!) are all the parts around the car, what I am doing now. Every part is a single project. The body (sheetmetall) will be a small thing in respect to the Knight Head or other complex parts. This will be one single "cover", then being splitted in Trunk,  Doors, Hood. For now I already assemble the existing parts at the correct location, "floating in the air" - these parts are "waiting" for the body. What doesn't exist jet can be added by imagination.

At the end any color combination can be realized, even in wood, in stone, any material. All the car can be scaled, transformed, stretched . . . whatever by a few commands, keeping all in 3D-RealView. Then the car can be placed in any 3D-environment, there will hardly be a difference between reality and animation.

This will be the end of the game or - then the real game starts!  - SERGE -

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sermey
Posted 2011-02-22 1:08 PM (#261977 - in reply to #261016)
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I didn't showed the other side of the Power Windows Switch with the Mounting Bracket - to complete here it is. - SERGE -


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wizard
Posted 2011-02-22 1:53 PM (#261979 - in reply to #253529)
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Special thank's for posting those ones Serge, they look next to identical to the '60 ones from the backside.
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sermey
Posted 2011-02-25 5:39 AM (#262386 - in reply to #253529)
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The Rear "D O D G E" Letters mounted on the Trunk have been done in one block, with the correct distance, for an easy assembling. Without any details primarly very easy and fast to realize.  But then the pattern of the borders, with the many fillets, finally needed alone about 50 (fifty) times more memory, the file size has grown up to 49MB (Mega).

That's Design!  - SERGE -

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sermey
Posted 2011-03-13 4:08 PM (#264510 - in reply to #253529)
Subject: RE: Modeling my 59 Dodge in 3D-CAD


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Among '59 Dodge owners, this part is well-known as "EyeBrow". If they had 3D-CAD in the fifties, this part would have been designed per shure different, with less twist, curvature and bend. I will have to do a fine fitting to the sheet metall when assembling for no gaps at all - as on my DODGE!  - SERGE -




(01 CAD 1959 EyeBrow Front View.jpg)



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sermey
Posted 2011-03-19 6:06 PM (#265234 - in reply to #253529)
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This Rear Emblem comes on the trunk of the Custom Royal, on the Coronets there are two on the fender front sides. For technical interested Readers I show shortly how this body is being modeled.

Take a picture size 1:1 as base reference, draw five sections for the left arm, loft them along 3 guides and mirror this half to get the entire body. This as well for the flower emblem: left and center part, mirror this as to get the complete flower, and mirror all again to get it twice. Loft the upper small bar at constant profile, extrude the panel with the given profile, extrude the lower Dent and array it 5 times.

That's all! All other is the finish.

Some items are shown matte for no mirror irritations. The knight, being used as well for other Emblems to come, will be done separate and shown later.  – SERGE  -





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sermey
Posted 2014-04-17 2:54 PM (#436591 - in reply to #253529)
Subject: RE: Modeling my 59 Dodge in 3D-CAD


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The Chevron Emblems are mounted on the rear fenders, thus there have two different ones, the one for the left side and the other for the right side, with different part numbers.

At the first glance they look equal. But the lower side, seen when mounted, is about 1.5mm higher. Here I modeled both items symmetric, the mounting pins being mirrored as on the samples. The original emblems have various thickness, and the wings differs from the others in details – the wellknown tolerances at the time. A reproduction by from a 3D-scan of these parts could be critical.

Now I can state, this Chevron Emblem has never been illustrated as nice and perfect as on the shown pictures here.  – SERGE - 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



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ronbo97
Posted 2014-04-17 4:02 PM (#436600 - in reply to #436591)
Subject: RE: Modeling my 59 Dodge in 3D-CAD


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Would you be able to someday output these files to a 3D printer and produce finished copies, ready to be mounted ?

Note: Coronet had a nameplate that read 'Coronet' on front fender. Only the station wagons and Silver Challenger had the trunk medallion on the fenders. Are you fancying things up a bit by making the knight's head gold ?

Ron

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