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Expert Posts: 3480     Location: Montreal, Canada | Now here's an interesting and oddly-optioned car.. 1958 Plymouth Plaza 4 dr sedan, radio delete, dog dishes, no rear armrests, one-tone green paint... yet, power steering, power brakes, V8, Torqueflite.. and Air Conditionning! DocDesoto, I think this is the el-strippo, weird car you've been wanting!  It's advertised as a 1957.. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Plymouth-1957-Plymouth-Plaza-_W0QQcm... 1957 Plymouth Plaza v8 3:18 large block automatic push button transmission power steering air conditioning (VERY RARE) power brakes This vehicle was parked in 1964 when man passed. sat in dry Arizona until now. Sold on a bill of sale way cool old car! not clean - the way it was discovered. This was always an out west car, not much wrong with the body. mostly original paint the way it was when it was made. ($(KGrHqZ,!hIE1fr)qKyVBNk9,nlCgQ~~_12.jpg) ($(KGrHqN,!jME2H1kCqZgBNk9,scE!w~~_12.jpg) ($(KGrHqF,!jUE2GySnucwBNk9,y!5Pw~~_12.jpg) ($(KGrHqF,!jcE2HfRtw+uBNk9,2gs!!~~_12.jpg) ($(KGrHqJ,!lIE2D1S9HhmBNk9,8FnVQ~~_12.jpg) ($(KGrHqR,!l!E2ER!OjccBNk9bB8bYg~~_12.jpg) ($(KGrHqR,!hYE1fHtyEjiBNk9bF0fRg~~_12.jpg) ($(KGrHqV,!h8E2JUonrT8BNk9bQO05w~~_12.jpg) ($(KGrHqN,!lkE2EcEduPiBNk9bLRnGg~~_12.jpg) ($(KGrHqR,!hoE1hdiq1PsBNk9bWRVeQ~~_12.jpg) Attachments ----------------  $(KGrHqZ,!hIE1fr)qKyVBNk9,nlCgQ~~_12.jpg (48KB - 359 downloads) $(KGrHqN,!jME2H1kCqZgBNk9,scE!w~~_12.jpg (50KB - 323 downloads) $(KGrHqF,!jUE2GySnucwBNk9,y!5Pw~~_12.jpg (59KB - 333 downloads) $(KGrHqF,!jcE2HfRtw+uBNk9,2gs!!~~_12.jpg (40KB - 300 downloads) $(KGrHqJ,!lIE2D1S9HhmBNk9,8FnVQ~~_12.jpg (47KB - 296 downloads) $(KGrHqR,!l!E2ER!OjccBNk9bB8bYg~~_12.jpg (32KB - 299 downloads) $(KGrHqR,!hYE1fHtyEjiBNk9bF0fRg~~_12.jpg (41KB - 308 downloads) $(KGrHqV,!h8E2JUonrT8BNk9bQO05w~~_12.jpg (35KB - 319 downloads) $(KGrHqN,!lkE2EcEduPiBNk9bLRnGg~~_12.jpg (40KB - 301 downloads) $(KGrHqR,!hoE1hdiq1PsBNk9bWRVeQ~~_12.jpg (58KB - 304 downloads) | ||
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 591  Location: West Chester, PA | |||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 610 Location: Wilmington, Delaware, USA | |||
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Expert Posts: 3577 Location: Blythewood, SC | |||
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 591 Location: West Chester, PA | |||
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| Doctor DeSoto |
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 Location: Parts Unknown | OMG ! ... I am in pain. This is a dream car for me. 58 Plaza 4s in light green. Dog dishies, black wall tires. This would look SO good parked next to the DeSoto !!! Here I am stuck in AFG.  | ||
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Expert Posts: 2524 Location: Houston | |||
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| Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | I'd be all over this car if I were back home. I am truly bumming.  | ||
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| soiouz |
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Expert Posts: 3480 Location: Montreal, Canada | Doctor DeSoto - 2011-04-01 11:51 AM I'd be all over this car if I were back home. I am truly bumming. I knew you'd love it!! Do you really think an overseas bidder from Afghanistan would raise a red flag to the seller?... Well, ok, nevermind. Edited by soiouz 2011-04-01 12:27 PM | ||
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Location: Parts Unknown | Turned the wife onto it tonight. Who knows, maybe some magic will occur ? In regards to in Afghan bidder .... I could always send funds "Afghan Express"  (DSC00246.jpg) Attachments ---------------- DSC00246.jpg (33KB - 302 downloads) | ||
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Location: Parts Unknown | soiouz - 2011-04-02 9:26 AM I knew you'd love it!! ****************************************** This is the EXACT car I have wanted .... 58 Plaza 4s in that seafoamy light green. The el Strippo dream of body colored wheels, black walls, and dog dishies on a plain jane stripped sedan. The fact that it got a V-8, TF, and PS, PB is double-extra fantastic ! Timing is bad, but man, I want this car ! | ||
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Location: Parts Unknown | The DLI gives the greenlight to go after this one, so let the games begin ! Prolly didn't hurt having her ride around in Colin's 57 while down in Oz last month !  May need some help staging this until I get back stateside if the bidding goes my way. Anyone on this list live in the area ? | ||
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| soiouz |
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Expert Posts: 3480 Location: Montreal, Canada | |||
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| Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | Thanks for posting it. I do not cruise eBay, so I likely would not have seen it. How many 58 Plaza 4s in that green color do you think survive and won't end up as parts cars ? ... or painted red ? | ||
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 594 Location: Melbourne, Australia | |||
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| Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | Gonna have my brother do the bid work. Sent Big M a PM about how to stage it somewhere until I can pick it up. Now, let's see if we can keep the price reasonable to keep this unique bottom-of-the-line car from becoming a parts car. BTW, Colin, Joan is still smiling over that afternoon drive. | ||
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 594 Location: Melbourne, Australia | Nice to hear. Replaced the scrubbed out rag tyre. Toe in was 1 and 3/8 inches. Fixed now; much better on the road !!! I c0cked up the toe in whilst centreing the s/wheel ......
Colin | ||
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 594 Location: Melbourne, Australia | Doctor DeSoto - 2011-04-02 5:40 AM Turned the wife onto it tonight. Who knows, maybe some magic will occur ? In regards to in Afghan bidder .... I could always send funds "Afghan Express" :laugh:
Afghan express !!! All I can picture is a red setter dog running like crazy with your cash in its mouth. Do they still call those big red dogs Afghans? Or is it not PC nowadays..... Haha | ||
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| 57plybel |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 594 Location: Melbourne, Australia | |||
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| Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | A big thanks to David for posting this listing. I now have the task of getting this beautiful anti-luxury four door sedan home and keeping it safe from parts seekers and would-be Christine cloners ! BTW - anyone wanting a swig off that milk carton, hit me with a PM. | ||
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Expert Posts: 2905 Location: little rock, AR | |||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 6500 Location: Newark, Texas (Fort Worth) | |||
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Location: Parts Unknown | $2550, to be exact. | ||
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Expert Posts: 1622 Location: Seville, OH | |||
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| Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | The ultimate Anti-Christine. She will be cute ! | ||
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Expert Posts: 2824 Location: Snohomish, WA. | |||
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Expert Posts: 4042 Location: Connecticut | |||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 1172 Location: Georgia | Good on ya, Brent, and congrats. We should form a sub-group here on FL for stripper fans. Although some might take that another way!  Pete | ||
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Expert Posts: 1918 Location: Hell's Outhouse - a.k.a. Buckeye, Arizona | Man, it doesn't get any more storybook than that, Doc - congrats on this once-in-a-lifetime snag from afar. | ||
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Expert Posts: 2612 Location: Parts Unknown | |||
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| Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | 61plymy - 2011-04-08 9:40 AM Way to go, Doc. Problem now is you need to re-design, partially demolish, and rebuild your garage-mahal-home to accommodate another car. What a shame. Seriously, good job. Mike ********************************************* With a 9 car capacity, I think I still have room. I have been doing old cars for a LONG time. I also have A.D.D. .... easily bored or distracted. No offense to anyone out there, but the combination of seeing a lot of FL cars and being easily bored has made me focus on the really weird among the already rare. No doubt a Christine is stunning in itself, but seeing the same old car with the same old colors and equipment makes even a special car cause my eyes to glaze over. Show me something I haven't seen 20-30 times before. Not sure if Mom dropped me on my head as an infant, but I have always been drawn to the fading shadows of the day, the distant ship's smoke on the horizon, the blowing of the wind in the grass that grows up between the railroad ties on some forgotten branch line. The rusting relic along some fence, the weathered barn, the old highway with no guard rails, and of course, the funky old car down the street in Grandma Pittipoo's carport. I was born in the Forward Look era and from my earliest memories can recall being attracted to old stuff. Back then an old car was a Model T. My Dad's dad was a car guy and made a big deal out of anything unusual he saw parked or driving past. By osmosis, this rubbed off on me. It wasn't until I was a little older that all things Googie began to emerge as a strong nostalgic interest .. .. all those wonderful pastel colors, the Googie fabrics, and futuristic architecture .... and of course, the cars ! The pinks and salmons, turquoises and that chiffon yellow, charcoal, chartreuse, and then that seafoam green ! My Grandma's kitchen was painted white and seafoam green. Cheesy Formica stuff in seafoam with white swirls on the counters, matching colored tile in a checkerboard pattern on the walls. It was so "then". Red might be flashy, but it was so generically used from the 30's to the present, it just has no character like those uniquely 50's colors. The mandatory points in this car search were: 1958, Plaza, four door, and it had to be seafoam green. The rest I was flexible on. The fact this one has some nice driver comfort options is a plus, and I love the gold grille "V", but the key was always that green color to match the tall, skinny blackwall bias-plys and those anti-cool dog dishies ! BTW - anyone know what that color was called on a 58 Plymouth ? I am too far from my reference books to read the fine print. | ||
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Expert Posts: 2996 Location: Sept. 1958 | Doctor DeSoto - 2011-04-08 3:16 AM BTW - anyone know what that color was called on a 58 Plymouth ? I am too far from my reference books to read the fine print. Color Code E - Misty Green | ||
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| Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | Thanks. OK, got another one for you .... were bare fender tops (no ornament, flat strip or the fancy "spear") standard on Plaza ? How about side trim ? Old photos show some Plazas with no side trim at all. But some have the straight bar coming forward from the rear bumper. What was standard for a bare bones Plaza ? I can't find old photos with a clear enough shot to see the if those Plazas had the flat strip on top of the fender or not. | ||
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Expert Posts: 2905 Location: little rock, AR | |||
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Expert Posts: 2612 Location: Parts Unknown | I don't want to rain on anyones parade here, but is this car really a "stripped" sedan or an "anti-luxury" car ? I get it that it's a "low model" Plaza, BUT it appears to be NICELY optioned - now if it had the Flattie, manual trans, manual brake, manual steering ie; stripped version of the Plaza I would agree with the thought of it being a "stripper" It sure looks super solid, and it sounds like Doc is gonna make this car BEAUTIFUL again so, I guess who cares - just a thought | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 1116 Location: CA | |||
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| Doctor DeSoto |
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Veteran Posts: 279 Location: Norway | Congratulations on getting the car! I have seen you mention a green '58 Plaza for a long time, and there it was! Highly optioned too. V8 was not that rare, but Torqueflite, PS and PB are all very unusual on a Plaza. Nice! As for Plaza trim. Standard was no side trim at all. Many have the single side spear like yours and you could also get the Deluxe trim shown on the black car. I think that came as part of the deal if you ordered a two tone car. The Silver Specials (also Plaza) had trim similar to the Deluxe but with special alumium inserts and a spear on the front fender and into the front door. This spear was SS only. Most Plazas have the flat spears on top of the front fenders but I have seen some cars without them too. Don't think the upscale spear with fin was available. Edited by 55 Savoy 2011-04-09 6:46 PM (Black 58 Plaza.jpg) (SS3.jpg) Attachments ---------------- Black 58 Plaza.jpg (63KB - 635 downloads) SS3.jpg (50KB - 320 downloads) | ||
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | |||
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Location: Parts Unknown | Add stuff ? Not a chance ! No radio, no antenna/s, no dash pad. I wanted a stripper, remember ? Pizzazz is what the DeSoto is for. This car will be the visual extreme opposite of a Fury / Christine. I might even take the side trim OFF ! So, Neil ... is it possible to register the car in California and keep the black plates ? Edited by Doctor DeSoto 2011-04-09 11:37 PM | ||
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Expert Posts: 2905 Location: little rock, AR | |||
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| Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | Well, give me some time there, Bub ! The check is in the mail and the car is still where those pix were taken ! John Fowlie will orchestrate hauling the thing to his yard once the check clears. I have asked John to get some good pix. Very few parts DO NOT interchange between 57 and 58. That is why so many 57's ended up as Christine clones. How are the Plaza tags on the rear quarters ? Since I have yet to see the car, I really do not know what it needs. From the pix I see that the radiator is not in place and the generator is missing, but who knows, they could be on the floor or trunk ??? Rust in the quarters appears to be zero. With the windshield missing all these years, the floors might be a problem though (?) But being in southern California and Arizona would minimize that problem. I guess we'll know soon enough. | ||
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Expert Posts: 2905 Location: little rock, AR | |||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 6500 Location: Newark, Texas (Fort Worth) | Mine was advertised as 57 too: (IMG_0094.JPG) Attachments ---------------- IMG_0094.JPG (75KB - 297 downloads) | ||
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Location: Parts Unknown | If I had a nickel for every time I have heard that non-57 finned cars were 1957 cars this Plaza would be paid for ! Hehehehe ! I especially like when that person telling his wife or the guy next to him that the 1960 Plymouth they are looking at HAS TO BE a 57 "because that is when they made those finned cars" (or some derivative of that) !!!! Really ? Nothing like knowing all the facts. | ||
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Expert Posts: 2612 Location: Parts Unknown | Doctor DeSoto - 2011-04-09 11:33 PM Add stuff ? Not a chance ! No radio, no antenna/s, no dash pad. I wanted a stripper, remember ? Add the radio - it's one of the few things this car doesn't have It will be nice to drive and listen to some tunes . . . | ||
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Location: Parts Unknown | Negative on that. Stripper, stripper, stripper ! (maybe slip a modern satellite radio under the seat ?) .... But on this car, I WANT the block-off plates and poverty look ! | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 6203 Location: Big pimpin' | |||
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Location: Parts Unknown | "Spider caps" ? What are those ? I too like the look of the 2.25 whitewall with the dog dishies, but this one will go all the way with the el cheapo look and get blackwalls. Unless maybe, ... the build card says it got wide whites? This car comes with no title, so I have to get a title before I can even run the CHS records on it. We'll cross that bridge soon enough. | ||
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