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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2013-05-08 1:15 PM (#374170 - in reply to #374094)
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You wouldn't happen to be a 300 Club member, would you ?

A few of them told me the same thing about the DeSoto and my old NY'er coupe.

That's some funny sh!t !!!
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56royaldodge
Posted 2013-05-08 2:29 PM (#374186 - in reply to #267400)
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So what color is it going to be?
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2013-05-08 9:40 PM (#374247 - in reply to #374186)
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Canman said it best: Buzzard Puke Green

(Finding an original monotone Mist Green Plaza 4s was always the criteria for this build)
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big m
Posted 2013-05-09 1:06 PM (#374356 - in reply to #267400)
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Looking good, She'll be on he road in no time at all!!

---John
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oldwood
Posted 2013-05-10 9:07 PM (#374584 - in reply to #267400)
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I knew you were building a trailer queen. LOL
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2013-05-10 11:45 PM (#374609 - in reply to #374584)
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I am gonna drive the wheels off it !
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2013-05-16 3:53 AM (#375461 - in reply to #374584)
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Couple shots of the finish work / paint prep. Panels are being aligned and worked on the car
to ensure they go together nice after being shot.





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60 Imp
Posted 2013-05-26 6:39 AM (#377180 - in reply to #267400)
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Doc, seen this 58 Plaza parts car?

Steve.

http://www.ctcautoranch.com/Parts%20Cars/Parts%20Cars.html
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2013-05-26 7:10 AM (#377184 - in reply to #377180)
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That's a new one to me. Would have been real pretty in that turquoise color. I wonder if it's a repaint ?

Mine looks SO different as a Plaza ..... I have no color sweep and monotone paint, so someone stepped up
for this and a radio, yet it has manual steering (and I assume manual brakes too), the basic steering wheel,
and Powerflite. No telling if it is a 6 or V-8 car.

My rather "stripper" LOOKING car got power steering AND brakes, the deluxe steering wheel, 318, Torqueflite,
and dealer A/C.

If the body color wheels are any indication, this car was outfitted with dog dishies.
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big m
Posted 2013-06-18 12:59 PM (#381670 - in reply to #267400)
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Any updates on your Plaza, Doc?
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christine-lover
Posted 2013-06-18 6:53 PM (#381722 - in reply to #381670)
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I heard he came to his senses, bought a rusty vert, and will be using this for that.
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2013-06-19 1:00 AM (#381767 - in reply to #381670)
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Last I heard it was in the final stages before paint. A death in the family (shop owner's family,
not mine) and getting hurt myself, has caused the car to fall off the priority list of discussion. I
will be home soon and can push it forward myself. More updates as they happen.
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firedome
Posted 2013-06-19 8:30 AM (#381807 - in reply to #381767)
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Nothing serious hopefully? We need all the wisea$$es we can get around here.



Edited by firedome 2013-06-19 8:31 AM
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2013-06-19 11:53 AM (#381844 - in reply to #381807)
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Nothing too serious. Docs released me to fly a couple days ago and I will push back soon. Got one
more mission to lead and it's game over. Three years is enough.

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big m
Posted 2013-06-19 4:49 PM (#381893 - in reply to #381844)
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Doctor DeSoto - 2013-06-19 8:53 AM

Nothing too serious. Docs released me to fly a couple days ago and I will push back soon. Got one
more mission to lead and it's game over. Three years is enough.



I know I'll be glad when your done there.
---John
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56royaldodge
Posted 2013-06-19 4:54 PM (#381895 - in reply to #381844)
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Doctor DeSoto - 2013-06-19 9:53 AM

Got one more mission to lead and it's game over. Three years is enough.



Be sure to announce your next profession so the harassment can continue
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soiouz
Posted 2013-07-16 6:55 AM (#386038 - in reply to #267400)
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What's up with this project? Any progress?
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2013-07-16 11:45 AM (#386077 - in reply to #386038)
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Was out to the shop yesterday to get my head around what I need to do to get this back on the
rails. I told them to stop all work when I demobed until I get a job ...... you know, that whole
"income thing" !

What I found was the floor mats never showed (cheque cashed 6 months ago), the steering wheel
is still a no-show, the mirror never made it, as did the mirror bracket, ..... but the good news is the
Rawa-built dash instrument cluster is there on the bench and looking beautiful !

Time for a flurry of email, I guess.
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soiouz
Posted 2013-07-16 12:23 PM (#386086 - in reply to #267400)
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What mats?? Are you "upgrading" to carpet or have you found correct rubber mats?
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2013-07-16 8:06 PM (#386152 - in reply to #386086)
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I found OEM mats.

At this point, the only mods to this car will be the rear valance.
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soiouz
Posted 2013-07-16 8:38 PM (#386158 - in reply to #386152)
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Doctor DeSoto - 2013-07-16 8:06 PM

I found OEM mats.

At this point, the only mods to this car will be the rear valance.


Since I sold my car with rubber mats, I don't need this anymore, but I was looking for OEM mats for a LOOOOONG time... Where'd you find it?

Edited by soiouz 2013-07-16 8:43 PM
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Powerflite
Posted 2013-07-17 1:49 PM (#386251 - in reply to #386152)
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Hey Doc,

Can you explain the purpose of this corrugated wire welded to the body? Is that some form of heat shrinking? If so, how does it work? I am not familiar with that method.
Also, the second picture looks like some modern art imprinted on the quarter panel. Maybe you should leave it there.



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56royaldodge
Posted 2013-07-17 1:55 PM (#386252 - in reply to #267400)
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I see a man with a big nose and a woman in a grey dress, washing dishes
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ttotired
Posted 2013-07-17 6:02 PM (#386297 - in reply to #267400)
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I thought the woman in the dress was patting a dog that had its front paws on her legs

The squiggle things are for dent pulling, they sort of weld on with a machine, kinda like staples in a row

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56royaldodge
Posted 2013-07-17 6:17 PM (#386299 - in reply to #267400)
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How about a man, a woman, and a pet dinosaur?
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2013-07-17 6:43 PM (#386302 - in reply to #386299)
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I saw a woman strangling her errant child.
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Powerflite
Posted 2013-07-18 3:29 PM (#386406 - in reply to #386302)
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Doctor DeSoto - 2013-07-17 3:43 PM
I saw a woman strangling her errant child.


I don't recommend that you play this game with a psychologist.


Pulling on those wires makes more sense. I just use a stud welder for that, but I can see how pulling over a larger surface can be of benefit.
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2013-07-18 3:55 PM (#386415 - in reply to #386406)
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It's alright. I could always say I have PTSD. Children can do that to you.
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2013-08-06 12:18 AM (#389814 - in reply to #386415)
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Today the long awaited steering wheel arrived after being restored/recast. I spent quite a
bit of time getting Dennis on the same page about color and translucence of the green, but the
finished product is stunning and absolutely perfect in color, detail, and finish. Here is a before
and after shot.





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firedome
Posted 2013-08-06 3:59 PM (#389950 - in reply to #267400)
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Wow, beautiful wheel work! So was the original exterior color that close to turquoise, if so those buzzards must have feasted on some blueberries.
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2013-08-06 10:24 PM (#390047 - in reply to #389950)
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No, the exterior color is Misty Green ... basically seafoam, or "buzzard puke" ......

The interior - dash, garnish mouldings, etc. are a different green, and the door panels,
seat vinyl is another. The steering wheel was not a "matched" color, but it is correct OEM
color for the green interior.

Here is an example in another car:





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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2013-08-06 10:44 PM (#390051 - in reply to #374186)
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That DeSoto is very faded, but you get the idea.

Here's an original 58 Plymouth showing the color a lot better.




(steering wheel 58 Ply green.jpg)



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oldwood
Posted 2013-08-25 10:15 PM (#393372 - in reply to #267400)
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Well how about an up-date or tell us a good LIE. lol
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2013-08-26 1:59 PM (#393475 - in reply to #393372)
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Well, they are inching towards shooting paint on it. Just got a bill for 5.5 hours. I am too
busy trying to rejoin the ranks of the gainfully employed to follow the project too closely.
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2013-09-02 2:36 PM (#394876 - in reply to #393475)
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I took all the bright work home with me on my last visit to the shop to see what could be done
about getting a good shine on it. I dropped the horn ring, Plaza tags, and dealer emblem off at
the chrome shop, and then picked up some double-ot steel wool to work on the aluminum and
stainless. I still see a little cloudiness in the headlight surround, but given what I started with
(see the little uncleaned patch), it looks pretty darned good ! The hubcap also shows before and
after sides.




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soiouz
Posted 2013-10-13 9:06 AM (#403242 - in reply to #267400)
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Any recent progress on this buzzard puke green beauty queen?
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2013-10-13 12:50 PM (#403275 - in reply to #403242)
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I had the chrome redone and have looked into re-anodizing the headlight surrounds, grille, etc.

I was pleasantly surprised by how inexpensive this is to have done. Nothing like the cost of
rechrome.

The re-anodizing is all dialed in, ... I just need to pull the trigger. Too #@! busy right now.
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soiouz
Posted 2013-10-13 9:20 PM (#403408 - in reply to #267400)
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Cool, looking forward to some pics.

Also, please update on the anodizing, I might have some parts I'd like to have done and I'm interested to see how it comes out.
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2013-10-13 11:29 PM (#403420 - in reply to #403408)
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I have two shops here in Spokane. Both seem to be highly capable. They explained the
thickness issues and darkening, as well as the ability/inability to match colors. It appears
this should not present much problem, as the "silver" and gold colors are pretty standard.

I went to take a photo of the restored steering wheel and center, but the lighting was bad.
Will try again tomorrow.
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2013-10-14 7:04 PM (#403594 - in reply to #403420)
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Here is a before and after of the steering wheel.




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(steering wheel restored.jpg)



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The Chrysler Kid
Posted 2013-10-15 5:02 PM (#403814 - in reply to #403594)
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Nice! Seafoam green is my favorite color I wish more people saved the sedans.
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oldwood
Posted 2013-11-04 7:56 PM (#408530 - in reply to #267400)
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Lets hear of your latest progess
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soiouz
Posted 2013-11-17 6:58 PM (#411269 - in reply to #267400)
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Doc, a clone of your car is third in this wedding parade:

http://jailamemoirequitourne.historiatv.com/videos/1290/mariage-et-...

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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2013-11-20 4:27 PM (#411908 - in reply to #411269)
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I can't quite make it out, .... the film is so grainy, ... but it almost looks like this car has the
no sweep Savoy straight-bar side trim and full face wheelcovers. Am I seeing things ?
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Posted 2013-11-20 4:57 PM (#411920 - in reply to #267400)
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Hey Doc,,

Is she been painted now, How close is she till you are burning up the highways..??
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58coupe
Posted 2013-11-20 9:05 PM (#411971 - in reply to #267400)
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Doc, I would be interested in the cost and the name of the shop that will do your anodizing as I need my headlight bezels done also.
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2013-11-21 1:53 AM (#411992 - in reply to #411971)
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No paint. It is in primer and close. I had to call off the dogs until I get a meaning and
steady employment.

I will update the anodizing intel when it happens.

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soiouz
Posted 2013-11-22 7:28 AM (#412206 - in reply to #411908)
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Doctor DeSoto - 2013-11-20 4:27 PM

I can't quite make it out, .... the film is so grainy, ... but it almost looks like this car has the
no sweep Savoy straight-bar side trim and full face wheelcovers. Am I seeing things ?


100% sure it has dog dishes, because full covers in Canada on a 1958 meant a hubcap that ressembled the 57 unit, and that's not what we see here. As for the side trim, I see what makes you doubt, but I think it's a reflection. Pretty sure it's a bare sided Plaza, let's say 75% on this one! ;-)
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57burb
Posted 2013-11-22 3:23 PM (#412263 - in reply to #412206)
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Looks pretty close to me!



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garrettwilson30
Posted 2013-11-29 3:46 PM (#413659 - in reply to #267400)
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Wow your plaza sure has come a long way.lookin' good!!!
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