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Windsor59
Posted 2011-04-29 7:49 AM (#270400)
Subject: If this car is a Chrysler or...?



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Location: Upplands Väsby, Sweden		I found this link tocar museum in Theran Iran.
If this car is a Chrysler or...?
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=888110



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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2011-04-29 7:53 AM (#270401 - in reply to #270400)
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Location: Parts Unknown		Yes, it was custom built for the Shah. Probably a Ghia job (?).

We have discussed it here before.
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Windsor59
Posted 2011-04-29 8:08 AM (#270402 - in reply to #270401)
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2011-04-29 9:02 AM (#270405 - in reply to #270402)
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Location: Parts Unknown		Not much help, ... sorry. Maybe someone here can give more details or provide a
link to the previous thread about it ?

BTW - is the weather warming up in Sweden yet ? We are regularly hitting close to 100f
here in AFG. Would like to send you some, if I could.
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StillOutThere
Posted 2011-04-29 9:49 AM (#270412 - in reply to #270400)
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Location: Under the X in Texas		The car is most commonly known as the "Shah of Persia Chrysler 300".   It is based on a 300B chassis and was indeed bodied by Ghia of Turin, Italy.   The shah was Prince Reza Pahlavia and he was a "car guy" ordering multiple very special order fabulous cars.




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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2011-04-29 11:15 AM (#270423 - in reply to #270412)
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Location: Parts Unknown		Thanks, Wayne.
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hemidave
Posted 2011-04-29 11:21 AM (#270424 - in reply to #270400)
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That's quite the busy engine compartment. The AC compressor looks a bit different than usual, and what's beside the generator, another one?
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Handygun
Posted 2011-04-29 2:02 PM (#270442 - in reply to #270400)
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StillOutThere
Posted 2011-04-29 3:27 PM (#270449 - in reply to #270400)
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Location: Under the X in Texas		From new the car was equipped with double generators. 




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55 Savoy
Posted 2011-04-29 3:45 PM (#270451 - in reply to #270400)
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Looks like a pretty fast respray to make it look ok, but absolutely one of the better looking cars among the special bodied FL cars.
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d500neil
Posted 2011-04-29 3:50 PM (#270454 - in reply to #270400)
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Location: bishop, ca		Are the windshield & vent windows 300B, or are they custom, like all the rest of the bodywork?




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StillOutThere
Posted 2011-04-29 4:59 PM (#270465 - in reply to #270400)
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Location: Under the X in Texas		I would venture that the windshield absolutely is a custom, one-off.   The vent window shape is similar, but not quite '56 Chrysler so the same is likely true there.   Ghia used the european company Sekurit to supply them with glass for their creations including flat glass.




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BigBlockMopar
Posted 2011-04-29 5:12 PM (#270469 - in reply to #270400)
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Location: Netherlands		I know the car is on stands in the first pics, but it looks so much better sitting at it's 'normal' rideheight in the last pic.
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Royal
Posted 2011-04-29 5:51 PM (#270475 - in reply to #270400)
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Location: Sweden Vansbro		Good eye Herman, yes it look real cool in the last picture. I did not notice that in the first place.
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2011-04-30 4:56 AM (#270519 - in reply to #270475)
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Location: Parts Unknown		A question for you more worldly types ....

Was Mopar unique for their cars of the FL era being used as the bases from which such exotics
were built ? Besides this custom, the Facel Vega and ... ah jeez .... totally drawing a blank here ..

Anyway, were cars like these built off other makes at the time, or did the Hemi and other factors
make Mopar the first choice for these special car builders ?
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ttotired
Posted 2011-04-30 8:55 AM (#270525 - in reply to #270400)
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Location: Perth Australia		Doc what about the Fleetwood caddies and the hearses and ambulances ect or did I misread what you asked?

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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2011-04-30 9:42 AM (#270527 - in reply to #270525)
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Location: Parts Unknown		I am asking about these racy European-built sports car jobs.
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StillOutThere
Posted 2011-04-30 10:39 AM (#270529 - in reply to #270400)
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Location: Under the X in Texas		The custom body builders of the world were being contracted to create bodies mostly using their own design talent on all the great and near great foundational chassis in world production in our era of interest. Because they are in most cases "one-off", we are almost exclusively familiar with the collaboration of Chrysler / Exner / Ghia because we swim in that pool. If you expand the Chrysler Corp horizon backward you immediately see that most custom body work was done by Derham in Rosemont, PA, for Chrysler in the early '50s and '40s. Then back in the '30s when custom body building was in its heyday, numerous body builders including LeBaron worked their magic on Imperials and Chryslers. The premier chassis of the rest of the world also had their body builders and some even reached as far down as bodying a Ford or Plymouth or Hudson. But of course names like Rolls Royce, Mercedes, Horch, etc were most often where the money got spent. Custom body building as a profession waned after WWII with the last vestiges going toward crafting exotic sports cars and equally the cars became more complex to alter and indeed, the best designers took the salaries of the original manufacturers.
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2011-04-30 11:45 AM (#270535 - in reply to #270529)
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Location: Parts Unknown		But sticking strictly to the late 50's, early 60's, .....

I do not recall any other makes getting used as the base for these type of sports cars. Am I
just living in my own little Mopar fishbowl, or were others built off late 50's GM and Ford chassis
or drivetrains ?
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StillOutThere
Posted 2011-04-30 2:15 PM (#270546 - in reply to #270400)
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Location: Under the X in Texas		Keep in mind that Virgil Exner Sr. had a working relationship with Ghia at this time and that his bold leadership in changing the way design was thought about at Chrysler Corp. had a lot to do with Chrysler contracting the numerous cars done by Ghia in the '52-58 period. I don't know that Ford or GM had anyone with overseas connections like that. Virgil Exner Jr. went to work for Luigi Segre, owner of Ghia for a number of years.

'56 Packard Predictor by Ghia, Cadillac Eldo broughams late '50s by Pininfarina, 56 Lincoln Futura also by Ghia that Barris hacked into the Batmobile, Hudson built 25 aluminum bodied coupe sports cars called Italias at Carrozzeria Touring in Milan and also a prototype sedan in the '53-55 era. The '60 Thunderbird power sunroofs were done by a small specialty company called Golde.

And don't forget all the hearse, ambulance and flower car builders, all coachbuilt and mostly on upscale chassis. They've always been around and there were many more pre-70s.

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d500neil
Posted 2011-04-30 5:53 PM (#270560 - in reply to #270400)
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Location: bishop, ca		But, returning to Brent's question: yes/no; the Chrysler engine/chassis was the only platform that (ever) served as the
underpinnings of any limited production vehicles, like the Dual Ghias, Facel Vegas, etc.



In the 60's, the Avanti II and the Excalibore had Cur-vette engines.








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StillOutThere
Posted 2011-05-01 1:50 PM (#270654 - in reply to #270400)
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The Hudson Italia ('53-55) was a limited production vehicle of 26 count with the chassis and drivetrain of the Hudson Jet and aluminum Italian body.   The Nash Healey ('51-54) was a specialty chassis with a Nash drive train of which 504 were built in 4 years with early aluminum and later steel bodies from England.   The Kaiser Darrin is Kaiser's Henry J compact chassis and drivetrain with primarily Glasspar fiberglass bodies totaling 443 production.   The Muntz sports cars used mostly Cadillac and Lincoln drivetrains and a rare Chrysler hemi and some 200 cars were constructed.   Not a sports car but Powell built pickups and station wagons in the '50s using refurbished '41 Plymouth chassis and their own steel body.

There is the whole world of fiberglass bodied sports cars like the LaDawri and the Woodill Wildfire and many others.  I'm not talking kit cars here; I'm referring to limited production fiberglass sports cars with all sorts of drive trains.   There were some aluminum bodied cars too.


Its a big wide automotive world.  I'm far less familiar with all the things that went on in Europe but one of the Chrysler drivetrain vehicles failed to be mentioned in the Jensen sports from England. 

I'm going to take the opportunity here to post a pic of an aluminum bodied, Kaiser big 6 drive train high styled sports car I found in Brea, S. California about 15 years ago now owned by a friend in Oregon.   The car wears the name "Gisler" and there is absolutely no known history on this mystery car.   Anyone ever see it or know ANYTHING about the car?  Thanks.





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