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PolaraPaul
Posted 2012-02-10 1:08 PM (#307240)
Subject: 1960 Dodge Polara Original


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This is a one family owned car that I recently acquired. It has the original paint and interior. There are many options including power door locks. It was of this first cars built, production # 340 in Detroit. It has aftermarket air conditioning. There were 3,186 Polara 4 door hardtops made that year. Note the dealer installed 1959 dual rear antennas. It came with original dealer paperwork that included the antennas as an option.

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Posted 2012-02-10 1:26 PM (#307243 - in reply to #307240)
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I LOVE it! REALLY REALLY LOVE IT!

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Posted 2012-02-10 1:33 PM (#307245 - in reply to #307243)
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So beautiful.
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Posted 2012-02-10 1:35 PM (#307246 - in reply to #307240)
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a beautiful automobile . good to hear the antennas have the paper work as they could stir up a ruckus . beautiful !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------later
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Posted 2012-02-10 1:38 PM (#307247 - in reply to #307240)
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Only three pictures?! You're KILLING me!!! Even my wife said, "Have him post more!" LOL.

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Posted 2012-02-10 1:41 PM (#307248 - in reply to #307247)
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C-300 - 2012-02-10 1:38 PM

Only three pictures?! You're KILLING me!!! Even my wife said, "Have him post more!" LOL.

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Yeah... What he said.... Gorgeous Car.

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Posted 2012-02-10 1:56 PM (#307250 - in reply to #307240)
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The '60 Polara is pure automotive hard core art - nice catch - congrats
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d500neil
Posted 2012-02-10 6:46 PM (#307308 - in reply to #307240)
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Beautiful ride, there Paul.

Did you check under the rear seat to see if its Broadcast Sheet is 'stuck' there?

I wonder if your car was built without a radio, because the rear manual antenna would not have been
installed so far forward on the deck area (iirc), and, it seems unlikely that the dealership would
have filled-in and painted the rear antenna's mounting hole, in order to install those dualies.




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Posted 2012-02-10 6:49 PM (#307309 - in reply to #307240)
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Stunning! I love any '60-61 Forwardlook 4dr with the huge back window. So classy.
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Posted 2012-02-10 6:57 PM (#307311 - in reply to #307309)
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What a beautiful car! just stunning!

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Posted 2012-02-10 7:11 PM (#307316 - in reply to #307240)
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My 4 year old saw the pictures and said, "Daddy, that's half your car!". The kid's pretty smart considering I have a black 60 Polara station wagon sitting in the garage!

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Posted 2012-02-10 7:55 PM (#307322 - in reply to #307316)
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Paul, that is absolutely gorgeous, please post up more pictures of the car including some interior shots!! I owned one of these for over 20 years, a loaded White four door hardtop.



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PolaraPaul
Posted 2012-02-10 8:44 PM (#307340 - in reply to #307240)
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Here is the Dealer paper work. There is no build sheet under the rear seat or glovebox.

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Plymouth Twins
Posted 2012-02-10 9:59 PM (#307350 - in reply to #307240)
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What an incredibly unusual, beautiful, car!! I can just picture what the family may have all looked like sitting in that car in 1960. A family going into the Mountains for a weekend camping trip. Good thing they have enough room to bring the stove along with all the camping gear, and maybe a few of the neighbor kids too!! lol!!
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Posted 2012-02-11 11:12 AM (#307394 - in reply to #307240)
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Congratulations! What a GREAT car and quite the find!

I also love that big cactus in your front yard!



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Posted 2012-02-12 8:13 PM (#307601 - in reply to #307240)
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Where am I when cars like this show up for sale!?! That car is SWEET and exactly what I would love to have. Good luck with her. You've got a great ride there.
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d500neil
Posted 2012-02-12 11:20 PM (#307615 - in reply to #307601)
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Paul, from your printed sales order, is the 5th item, from the bottom, a radio, and on the handwritten order, is that a
'radio', which cost $35.50 ?

If so, the car may have been built with a rear mounted manual antenna, which would have been installed where Ian's
car has its antenna, in the photo above here.

At any rate, you probably should check the underside of the upper deck, and see if there is any evidence of the filling-in of an antenna hole in that area, and/or spot-painting on the upper side, if your documents do confirm the ordering of a radio.






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imopar380
Posted 2012-02-13 12:48 PM (#307651 - in reply to #307615)
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d500neil - 2012-02-12 8:20 PM

Paul, from your printed sales order, is the 5th item, from the bottom, a radio, and on the handwritten order, is that a
'radio', which cost $35.50 ?
If so, the car may have been built with a rear mounted manual antenna, which would have been installed where Ian's
car has its antenna, in the photo above here.
At any rate, you probably should check the underside of the upper deck, and see if there is any evidence of the filling-in of an antenna hole in that area, and/or spot-painting on the upper side, if your documents do confirm the ordering of a radio.


Actually Neil, my car originally came with a front fender antenna. I installed the rear one myself, but it's on the wrong side. Factory rear single antennae on the 60 Dodge were installed on the left side about halfway between the fin end and rear glass. I changed the location when I had new rust free fenders installed on the car back in 1977. The original fenders were swiss cheese around the headlight buckets and had been given a poor quickie fix with bondo and bits of sheet metal brazed in before I bought the car, the replacement fenders came from a wrecking yard in AZ. The rest of the car was and still is, very solid.

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d500neil
Posted 2012-02-13 3:08 PM (#307661 - in reply to #307651)
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This is an interesting car, alright.

I've got a legible(!) 1960 IBM card copy, but no Options/Accessories brochures on the 60's.

There is a "Radio-Heater" accessory group, which would include several features in addition to the radio and the heater.

Paul's car clearly has a heater listed ($74.40 option), and, I think, a radio, too ($35.50), so, it didn't have all of the other
individual items that were, otherwise, included within that "Radio-Heater" option group.

There is a stand-alone option for "Antennas", which may include their placement and/or powered-status on the car.

There is another option-set which includes "Air Conditioning and Heaters", which is where Paul's ride's heater should be coded.

Then, there is another option set for "Radios & Rear Speakers", which is where the radio and/or the rear speaker would be coded.





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Posted 2012-02-13 3:27 PM (#307664 - in reply to #307240)
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You should have a career in politics Neil Nice "Dodgeing"

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d500neil
Posted 2012-02-13 3:46 PM (#307670 - in reply to #307240)
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It's called the subjunctive tense, in English; hypothetical/probability; rather than purely declarative or categorical--
prospective political candidates like to use categorical statements in order to try to have voters think that they know
what they're talking about.

And, please; no political hijacking of this thread.




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Posted 2012-02-13 8:43 PM (#307716 - in reply to #307240)
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It's subjunctive mood, not subjunctive tense.
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Posted 2012-02-14 3:45 AM (#307755 - in reply to #307716)
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The serial number reveals an interesting point - it is an extremely early production car.

6303 100340

6 - big Dodge (Matador / Polara)
3 - Polara
0 - 1960 model year
3 - Assembly plant - East Jefferson Avenue, Detroit

100340 - Sequential production number - starting at 100001

The East Jefferson line built big Dodges, DeSotos and Chryslers -
big Dodge - 42,517
DeSoto - 23,832
Chrysler - 67,942

This Dodge Polara is the 340th 1960 model off the East Jefferson plant line, which would mean it was built either the first or second day of 1960 production. Given that the 1960 models had completely new bodies with no chassis and intensive rust proofing and body preparation methods, start up may have taken awhile to get up to speed.


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Posted 2012-02-14 4:28 AM (#307758 - in reply to #307240)
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283 - Torqueflite
298 - Vacuum door locks
Safety Group, A/C
315 - Heater / Defroster
342- Foam seats - rear
344 - Bumper guards, front
345 - Bumpper guards, rear
347 - Steering wheel, plastic
372 - Backup lights
- Antifreeze
376 - Door edge moulding
382 - Outside rear view mirror - left
383 - Outside rear view mirror - right
386 - Inside mirror - prismatic
394 - Rear quarter louver panel
421 - Radio
444 - Solex windshield
502 - Wheel covers, deluxe
512 - Windshield wipers - variable speed
588 - Undercoating & hood pad
- Destination charges

323 - Dual rear antenna

Cannot make out what dealer installed items were added, but it came to over $540.00.

Also, total Polara 4-door hardtop production in the U.S. came to 2,901, the remaining 285 built in Windsor.
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Posted 2012-02-14 12:30 PM (#307799 - in reply to #307240)
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Safety Group included -
291 - Power steering
292 - Power brakes
431 - Padded instrument panel

The WSW tires, at $41.75, were 8.00x14, rayon

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Posted 2012-02-14 3:24 PM (#307821 - in reply to #307755)
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Chrycoman - 2012-02-14 12:45 AM


This Dodge Polara is the 340th 1960 model off the East Jefferson plant line, which would mean it was built either the first or second day of 1960 production. Given that the 1960 models had completely new bodies with no chassis and intensive rust proofing and body preparation methods, start up may have taken awhile to get up to speed.


Given that the "intensive" rust-proofing only covered the lower 18 inches of the body, ...... they gave absolutely no thought to one of the most prone areas of rust on vehicles at that time which was around the headlights. There were no full wheel housings within the fenders to prevent water, road dirt and salt from collecting over and around the headlight pots, which was one of the worst rust out areas on most 1950s cars. GM was the first to install full front wheel housings starting in 1962 on all their full sized cars. Imperials had baffles behind the headlights from 57 and on to keep the crap out, but the rest of the Chrysler lineup didn't get full wheel housings till 1965 - and even then it was only full sized models. Sorry to hi-jack the thread!

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d500neil
Posted 2012-02-14 3:59 PM (#307827 - in reply to #307821)
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Bill, you really went over those documents!

Where do you come up with a code 323 for dual rear antennae?

Code "32_" is for "Antennas", on the IBM card, but, there will be 320(maybe), 321, 322, 323(you say), and possibly other
sub-options for other antenna-type items.

The front fender antenna (as per Ian's information, above) was the standard location for an antenna, so, a fender antenna
would not receive any special coding.

The single rear manual antenna could be 321, with a (front, or the rear-) powered antenna receiving 322, the rear-powered
antenna (if a front-power antenna was available) could be 323, or it could be 322.

I don't have access to a 1960 Ross Roy data book, so I do not know if dual antennae were offerred in 1960.

If they were not available, there would be no coding ("323") for them.

So, were dual antennae an option on the 60 Dodges?






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d500neil
Posted 2012-02-14 4:09 PM (#307828 - in reply to #307240)
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Here is what Ian is talking about.

The illustration DOES show immersion dipping, at the fronts and rears of the cars.

No wonder that the large exposed multi-joined roofs of the station wagons rusted out.





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imopar380
Posted 2012-02-14 5:55 PM (#307837 - in reply to #307828)
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I guess the pounding of gravel from the tires effectively removed any "rust-proofing" that would have protected the area around the headlight pots anyways, and over the winter the mixture of damp dirt and salt would not even have a chance to dry out so it would effectively just sit there and do its tinworm job on the sheet metal. It would have been easy to install a sheet metal baffle ahead of the wheels with a rubber edging on it to prevent that area from collecting dirt. Of course it would have added another dollar and a half to each car cost, but when you're producing a lot of cars the dollars add up quick and the bean counters would nix it as unnecessary expenditure.
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Posted 2012-02-18 5:27 PM (#308406 - in reply to #307240)
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Wow!!! Stunning! Had Chrysler continued styling cars like this...
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PolaraPaul
Posted 2018-08-10 2:39 PM (#568203 - in reply to #307240)
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I had the original paint buffed and surface wear spot painted. Also I had the redone seats installed along with new carpet. Door panels were cleaned up and are original. I repainted the rear bumper guards. I cleaned up the dash when I switched out the non-bubble replacement windshield with a correct one and added a clock , had the radio rebuilt, and ordered an Autoline dash pad. This will be a nice daily driver.

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Posted 2018-08-10 5:54 PM (#568207 - in reply to #307240)
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Paul, could you take some pictures of your roof lining please

My 4drht roof lining is not there and I havnt seen it.

I intend on making a new one, but not sure how its constructed and how it fits in

Thanks
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Posted 2018-08-10 11:55 PM (#568224 - in reply to #568207)
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Paul, your interior is gorgeous.

The1960 Dodge hardtop headliner was quite a plush affair, a cardboard perimeter surround with ribbed accousti-foam panels in between, with plastic chrome bows side to side to separate the 3 foam panels. I had the foam panels replaced in my ex-Polara with some ribbed corduroy type material that closely approximated the ribbed foam panels, which were chewed up in places. Wish I had a photo, as it appeared plusher than the headliner in a New Yorker hardtop.

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Posted 2018-08-11 1:38 PM (#568237 - in reply to #307240)
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Headliner pictured today. These are the original panels but the foam had deteriorated. I scraped what was left off and this gray color was beneath the foam on this car.

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Posted 2018-08-11 6:13 PM (#568251 - in reply to #307240)
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That's fantastic Paul, Its the first 4drht roof interior I have seen

I am assuming the Plymouth is the same

Thank you for taking the effort

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Posted 2018-08-12 6:39 AM (#568282 - in reply to #307240)
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I have never seen a big Dodge in the flesh, and they are my favorite 1960 Dodge, regardless of the numbers of doors. Paul, thanks for putting up the new pics. Love this car.

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Posted 2018-08-12 5:14 PM (#568312 - in reply to #307240)
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Posted 2018-08-12 5:37 PM (#568314 - in reply to #307240)
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2 for 1 deal with the hint of the 60 Plymouth tail light

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Posted 2018-08-13 1:19 AM (#568340 - in reply to #307240)
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Nice job! That looks really good and should be a lot of fun.
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Posted 2018-08-13 2:40 AM (#568342 - in reply to #568340)
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I don't think the Plymouth headliner is the same as Dodge,but not positive. I know for sure that DeSoto and Chrysler are completely different. Here are a couple of photos with the center sections in place,but not the original acousti-foam pieces. The acousti-foam sections were all a kind of brownish-beige hue originally. On my ex-Polara, the front half of each sun visor was also covered in the foam, with the rear half in beige vinyl.

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