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dukeboy
Posted 2012-05-07 12:53 PM (#320008 - in reply to #320003)
Subject: Re: 58 Plymouth Sedan



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BB, 4-speed, Dana 60, does it get any better? Would LOVE to hear that 'ol BB screamin' up round 6000 and walkin' through the gears.

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savoy_man
Posted 2012-05-07 2:13 PM (#320021 - in reply to #309119)
Subject: RE: 58 Plymouth Sedan



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Location: Nebraska		I can't wait to hear it either. It's been a long time since I jammed through the gears. That 4:10 posi in the Dana should tear up some asphalt. I also got the disc brake caliper mounts from Scarebird this weekend so that is next on the list. I have a stock 63 Plymouth Hurst shifter and I'm trying to decide if I like the length and positioning. What does everyone else think?







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big m
Posted 2012-05-07 4:41 PM (#320049 - in reply to #309119)
Subject: Re: 58 Plymouth Sedan



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Location: Williams California		Todd,

What was the issue with the passenger side quarter panel that it needed replacement? Just curious.

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savoy_man
Posted 2012-05-08 2:48 PM (#320194 - in reply to #320049)
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Location: Nebraska		It had a bunch of pieces that were all patched into it and poorly done. It was one big hole that was about 2 1/2 feet by 1 foot tall that was patched with 4 different pieces of metal and they were only tacked in. I decided to just replace the whole thing since I had a quarter panel laying around. When I get home I will post a picture of the bad patch job.
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savoy_man
Posted 2012-05-08 3:42 PM (#320213 - in reply to #320049)
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Location: Nebraska		It had a bunch of pieces that were all patched into it and poorly done. It was one big hole that was about 2 1/2 feet by 1 foot tall that was patched with 4 different pieces of metal and they were only tacked in. I decided to just replace the whole thing since I had a quarter panel laying around. When I get home I will post a picture of the bad patch job.
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big m
Posted 2012-05-08 4:49 PM (#320225 - in reply to #309119)
Subject: Re: 58 Plymouth Sedan



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I would have replaced it too if it were on my car.

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BarnFind57
Posted 2012-05-09 8:00 AM (#320329 - in reply to #309119)
Subject: RE: 58 Plymouth Sedan



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Location: Signal Mountain, TN		I love the look of a tall shifter in a street/rat rod for sure....

I would toss it through the gears a few times pretty quick if I was you, though.

I installed a bus shifter in a bug years ago... it looked really good untill that one day that I was shifting rapidly and ran forward too fast, cracking my knukles on the dash...

Product testing they call it...

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savoy_man
Posted 2012-05-12 2:01 PM (#320779 - in reply to #309119)
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Location: Nebraska		Took me a long time to post these pics. Terrible week at work with server crashes.

The shifter is a stock one from a 63 Plymouth and trust me the 63 dash has dents in it. I will probably heat it and bend it back slightly for clearance.





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savoy_man
Posted 2012-05-24 12:08 AM (#322639 - in reply to #309119)
Subject: RE: 58 Plymouth Sedan



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Location: Nebraska		I decided to start the disc brake conversion and took the drum off the front and found something surprising. The original drum brakes look like new.



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savoy_man
Posted 2012-05-24 12:12 AM (#322641 - in reply to #309119)
Subject: RE: 58 Plymouth Sedan



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Location: Nebraska		I also got the rear end all painted up and it is mounted and the new air shocks installed.




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BarnFind57
Posted 2012-05-24 6:55 AM (#322650 - in reply to #309119)
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Location: Signal Mountain, TN		Looking good, man.

My front drum brakes, alas, did not look like that when I took my drums off....

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savoy_man
Posted 2012-06-07 2:45 PM (#324700 - in reply to #309119)
Subject: RE: 58 Plymouth Sedan



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Location: Nebraska		I had issues with the headers my grandpa built not fitting. It must be where I placed my engine. I must be just a smidge back from stock. So since I had the holes and another set of headers I decided to stick with fender exits.





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savoy_man
Posted 2012-06-07 2:49 PM (#324701 - in reply to #309119)
Subject: RE: 58 Plymouth Sedan



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Location: Nebraska		I pulled everything back out and powerwashed the engine bay and sprayed some black paint. I really would have liked to do a bunch of bodywork under the hood but I'm trying to get the car on the road quickly so I can take it to a car show I am hosting. The detail work will have to wait until the winter and I will tear everything back apart.





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Windsor Wendy
Posted 2012-06-07 3:31 PM (#324705 - in reply to #322641)
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savoy_man - 2012-05-24 6:12 AM

I also got the rear end all painted up and it is mounted and the new air shocks installed.


Where did you mount the air valve(s) for the air lines to the shocks? We have the same shocks but still undecided where the valves should sit...
I take it you know that using a T-piece in the air lines makes for an "anti" anti sway bar?
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savoy_man
Posted 2012-06-07 3:45 PM (#324711 - in reply to #309119)
Subject: RE: 58 Plymouth Sedan



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Location: Nebraska		I ran the lines across to the other side of the car to the outside of the frame rails then down the frame rails and came back together in the middle of the cross piece at the back of the car. That might not makes sense but since the air lines point inwards I ran the left shock line down the right side of the car and vice versa so i wouldn't have to kink them back to run them down the frame. I did use the T because I'm not too worried about anti-sway. This will be more of a straight line car anyway.
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Posted 2012-06-08 10:38 AM (#324775 - in reply to #309119)
Subject: RE: 58 Plymouth Sedan



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Posted 2012-06-08 1:55 PM (#324796 - in reply to #309119)
Subject: Re: 58 Plymouth Sedan



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savoy_man
Posted 2012-06-11 5:29 PM (#325210 - in reply to #309119)
Subject: Re: 58 Plymouth Sedan



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Location: Nebraska		Thanks. It is pretty much being built exactly how I want. I am a hot rodder and love mean looking mean sounding cars. I know it's not the style for everyone. If only I could afford a blower and tubbing the car.
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Posted 2012-06-11 6:28 PM (#325220 - in reply to #309119)
Subject: Re: 58 Plymouth Sedan



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savoy_man
Posted 2012-07-16 9:25 AM (#330096 - in reply to #309119)
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Location: Nebraska		It's been a long busy summer and I haven't been posting updates. The progress has been slow. I've had a few setbacks and that has slowed the progress. I also haven't been able to spend as much time on it as I would like. Funny how life gets in the way of your play time.





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savoy_man
Posted 2012-07-16 9:35 AM (#330098 - in reply to #309119)
Subject: RE: 58 Plymouth Sedan



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Location: Nebraska		As you can see in the pics I got the brake lines all run and the proportioning valve and master cylinder in. I also installed a Summit line lock and it turns out to be junk. The whole body of it leaked like crazy when I bled the brakes. I replaced it with an old Hurst one I had lying around but not sure it it still works. At least it doesn't leak! The summit one was so poorly made the threads that hold the two pieces of the body together really don't match up. It is brand new but I bought it over 2 years ago so I'm sure they won't exchange it. I've sandblasted and powder coated the z bar and clutch fork and also the blow proof bell housing. The engine is in but i still need to put in the trans. The quarter is hung and I'm almost done welding it. Hopefully I can get this car on the road soon.
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savoy_man
Posted 2012-08-16 8:51 AM (#334824 - in reply to #309119)
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Location: Nebraska		It has been a while since I have been on and posted anything. Life gets in the way sometimes. i haven't made any huge strides lately but some progress has been made. I got the engine and trans all done and lots of bodywork done on the passenger side. Here are a few pics of that.





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bel5758
Posted 2012-08-16 9:53 AM (#334827 - in reply to #309119)
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Posted 2012-08-16 7:01 PM (#334902 - in reply to #334827)
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quick_tsi
Posted 2012-08-17 9:06 PM (#335053 - in reply to #309119)
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Just wondering, what headers did you wind up using?

Thanks

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JT Vincent
Posted 2012-08-19 2:32 PM (#335283 - in reply to #309119)
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savoy_man
Posted 2012-08-30 10:51 AM (#336892 - in reply to #309119)
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Location: Nebraska		Sorry but I've been absent for a while. I was busy putting on a car show and it is amazing how much time that takes. Thanks for the compliments. The headers are A body fender exits. They required a bit of tweaking but they worked out well. I've gone out of town a couple of times in the last month and will be going out of town this weekend but hopefully after that I can get back on the bodywork and put the car on the road. It's been weeks since I've touched my car and I'm ready to work again. The car next to it is a 64 Dodge that I've put a straight axle under. It will be a Poly Powered Gasser with fender exit headers that I built from scratch.
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savoy_man
Posted 2014-07-08 2:14 PM (#448332 - in reply to #309119)
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It has been a long time since I have posted but I have finally made progress on my car.  I had to finish building a 64 Dodge for a friend.  I almost have all of the bodywork done so hopefully this weekend I will be able to primer the whole car and start blocking it out.  It's gotta be smooth because I have decided to paint it black.

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savoy_man
Posted 2014-07-08 2:21 PM (#448334 - in reply to #309119)
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Location: Nebraska		Here are some pictures.



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savoy_man
Posted 2014-07-08 2:31 PM (#448335 - in reply to #309119)
Subject: RE: 58 Plymouth Sedan



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Location: Nebraska		In case you were interested here is the finished 64 gasser.



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Posted 2014-07-11 9:45 AM (#448740 - in reply to #309119)
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Love the candymatic Dodge, too...
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savoy_man
Posted 2014-07-21 12:14 PM (#449886 - in reply to #309119)
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Location: Nebraska		I got the car in full primer and guide coat this weekend.





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big m
Posted 2014-07-21 4:05 PM (#449922 - in reply to #309119)
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savoy_man
Posted 2014-07-21 4:58 PM (#449932 - in reply to #309119)
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Location: Nebraska		Thanks John. I'm hoping to have it done for a car show here called Last Fling Til Spring. It is at the end of September and Richard Rawlings will be there. It would be a lot more fun to show up in this than my Beetle.
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Posted 2014-07-21 10:32 PM (#449978 - in reply to #309119)
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savoy_man
Posted 2014-07-22 11:01 AM (#450034 - in reply to #309119)
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Posted 2014-07-22 3:39 PM (#450059 - in reply to #309119)
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savoy_man
Posted 2014-07-24 11:19 AM (#450311 - in reply to #309119)
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savoy_man
Posted 2014-07-30 9:51 AM (#450989 - in reply to #309119)
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Location: Nebraska		Primed and in guide coat for a second time.





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Posted 2014-07-30 10:14 PM (#451053 - in reply to #309119)
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Nice to see the progress on this one. This is one of my favorite builds on this forum, and combined with a couple of others is my motor-vation on my 59.

Keep up the great progress.

All the best,

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savoy_man
Posted 2015-03-30 10:22 AM (#473847 - in reply to #309119)
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savoy_man
Posted 2015-03-30 10:27 AM (#473850 - in reply to #309119)
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savoy_man
Posted 2015-03-30 10:29 AM (#473852 - in reply to #309119)
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Posted 2015-03-30 11:29 AM (#473856 - in reply to #473852)
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196061SAVOY
Posted 2015-04-02 6:53 AM (#474149 - in reply to #309119)
Subject: Re: 58 Plymouth Sedan


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is the one piece back quarter side glass available, I think that would add a lot to the look, very nice work



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savoy_man
Posted 2015-04-02 5:56 PM (#474176 - in reply to #309119)
Subject: Re: 58 Plymouth Sedan



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Location: Nebraska		The mini bike is a Trail Horse. There are 2 other minibikes and a moped sitting back there with it.

I have been trying to figure out how to make the back glass one piece. That would make it look less clunky and a little sleeker. It looks like your pic is exactly what I'm going for only in red and minus chrome. Now I have to figure out what rims I am going to run. I am thinking Cragar S/S.
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jimntempe
Posted 2015-04-02 6:15 PM (#474177 - in reply to #309119)
Subject: Re: 58 Plymouth Sedan



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Location: Arizona		I thought I read in a thread somewhere on this board that the Business coupes that did not have a back seat had a one piece rear side window that was fixed in place.
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JT Vincent
Posted 2015-04-02 10:36 PM (#474204 - in reply to #474177)
Subject: Re: 58 Plymouth Sedan



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Location: Jamaica Plain, MA		Looks awesome. The one piece back window glass is easy-- a good glass shop should have a template, or you can make one with cardboard. It would have to be laminated safety glass. It's flat, despite what some people say.

About the A body headers, did you use those for coolness factor, or did off-the-shelf RB headers not fit?
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mstrug
Posted 2015-04-02 11:27 PM (#474206 - in reply to #309119)
Subject: Re: 58 Plymouth Sedan



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Location: Newark, Texas (Fort Worth)		Your car is going to be tough! I like the fact that you are keeping some sort of Sport Tone Trim on her. Did you sell the 3 speed and hemi? Marc.
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savoy_man
Posted 2015-04-03 9:01 AM (#474234 - in reply to #309119)
Subject: Re: 58 Plymouth Sedan



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Location: Nebraska		The headers were just for the cool factor. I had them in the garage and wanted to use them.

The one piece glass I am sure I could have cut but I was wondering what to do about the gaskets and mounting. I don't know how to get the window all sealed up and set in place.

I did sell the Hemi and trans. In hindsight I probably should have kept it but I just don't have enough storage space.

Hey 196061SAVOY - Do you have the psd file for that picture or would you be able to modify it to help me figure out what rims I want? I want to see what my car would look like with Cragars or the grey Rocket Racing Strike rims.
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