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Fred
Posted 2013-02-24 7:51 PM (#361685)
Subject: Gear Reduction Starter



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Location: Surrey, BC, Canada		I installed Clifford headers on my 1961 Dodge Dart Pioneer wagon and needed a reduction starter to since the original direct drive starter would not fit. I ran a modified late model starter at first, but the shop that modified it said that the metal was machined pretty thin so I decided to look for a purpose-built unit. RobbMC makes starters for niche models and since he had a hemi starter I asked him about making a unit that would fit on my car. It took a while to work out the details but I put the starter in a couple of week sago and so far it starts like a charm every time. The cost was high - about $350 but I decided that if I avoided one tow I was ahead of the game.



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mogge65
Posted 2013-02-28 11:02 AM (#362363 - in reply to #361685)
Subject: Re: Gear Reduction Starter



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Location: Nasco , SWEDEN		clifford headers???? could you give us more info and pics please! Nice set up with the starter............
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jboymechanic
Posted 2013-05-10 5:23 PM (#374557 - in reply to #361685)
Subject: Re: Gear Reduction Starter



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Location: Muskego, WI		$350 isn't bad, pretty sure a paid that for an off-the-shelf light weight high torque starter for my 354 Hemi.
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Beltran
Posted 2013-05-10 7:48 PM (#374575 - in reply to #361685)
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Location: Michigan		I used this. Works great and much less expensive. http://www.hothemiheads.com/transmission_adapters/starter_light_wei...
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GregCon
Posted 2013-05-13 4:23 PM (#375025 - in reply to #361685)
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Location: Houston		Does that Hot Heads work with a stock tranny? It says it works with HH adapters.
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Beltran
Posted 2013-05-13 7:43 PM (#375051 - in reply to #361685)
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Location: Michigan		Yes. It does, I have it on my 56 PF. Bolted right in without issue. Nice thing is you can turn the motor and solenoid so it can be in almost any position depending on your headers and what you need.



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GregCon
Posted 2013-05-13 10:14 PM (#375098 - in reply to #361685)
Subject: Re: Gear Reduction Starter



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Location: Houston		So is that starter any different than the usual Mopar min-starter? Does it use some sort of adapter plate?
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Beltran
Posted 2013-05-14 10:32 PM (#375274 - in reply to #361685)
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Location: Michigan		It might be the same. I am not sure. I did not have to purchase anything else but the starter. The mount is adjustable and that is the only 'adaptor' it has as part of the housing.
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GregCon
Posted 2013-05-21 11:41 AM (#376305 - in reply to #361685)
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Location: Houston		I talked to Hot Heads....their mini-starter that is $145 will fit some FL cars but not others. Apparently the 'bigger and later' Hemi's went to a 172 tooth ring gear and that will not work with the $145 starter. They do sell one that does work but it is $290.
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jboymechanic
Posted 2013-05-23 9:37 PM (#376819 - in reply to #361685)
Subject: Re: Gear Reduction Starter



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Location: Muskego, WI		That makes sense. I have a 172 tooth torque converter from a 392 Hemi behind my 354, would explain why I didn't get off so cheaply.
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Powerflite
Posted 2014-02-26 11:50 PM (#429140 - in reply to #376819)
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Location: So. Cal		Looking at the Hot Heads site, I see a remanufactured starter that is supposed to work with '57-'59 for $95. It looks just like the standard Dakota starter, but there are 4 parts sitting next to it. Does anyone know what the difference is here to make a Dakota starter work on the '57-'59 and what those small parts are for?

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60 dart
Posted 2014-02-27 12:05 AM (#429142 - in reply to #361685)
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Phil_the_frenchie
Posted 2014-02-27 5:01 AM (#429156 - in reply to #361685)
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Shep
Posted 2014-02-27 2:48 PM (#429197 - in reply to #429142)
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60 dart - 2014-02-27 12:05 AM

ok , but fred , isn't the little tube on top supposed to be on the bottom --------------------------------------------------------later
Correct, drain tube on bottom.
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57chizler
Posted 2014-02-27 3:03 PM (#429200 - in reply to #429197)
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The RobbMC starter is designed so that the solenoid can be rotated to clear obstructions, in some positions the
"drain" tube won't be on the bottom.
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BigBlockMopar
Posted 2014-02-27 4:10 PM (#429206 - in reply to #361685)
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Fred - 2013-02-24 1:51 PM
... and so far it starts like a charm every time. ...


Fred, with the way those wires are crimped and hanging around there that probably won't be for long...
That $350 starter deserves some proper connections.


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mopark
Posted 2014-04-10 11:02 PM (#435431 - in reply to #361685)
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Hi, Could some one tell me what geared starters fit the 1959 Dodge  361 with the torque fight 3 speed auto. Thanks in advance

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canyouheminow
Posted 2014-04-15 1:29 PM (#436204 - in reply to #435431)
Subject: Re: Gear Reduction Starter



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Location: Lima,Ohio		The one gear reduction starter early in this post is made by powermaster.They make them for 146 tooth and 172 tooth flywheels.
there email for tech and questions is tech@powermasterperformance.com. http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Powermaster-9531-1957-58-Hemi-Gear-Re...
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mikes2nd
Posted 2024-07-02 8:13 AM (#635940 - in reply to #361685)
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Btw.... these power master servers will be in the way, the center link will hit and stop on the starter when you turn hard left on a 392 hemi fitted into a Dodge(its a half inch short to hit the stop at the hub).... I assume it's the same with a Plymouth and possibly others.

I'm experiencing this right now.
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