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muddy
Posted 2013-05-14 12:17 AM (#375114)
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Location: South Australia		I'm pretty sure that a supercharger (such as Paxton) was not factory, but possibly a dealer fitted option for most makes of car,but i am wondering...
Has anyone ever seen a Fury (or for that matter,any Chrysler brand car) with a supercharger from new?
Probably not the sort of thing you would see every day,but i've never even heard of one mentioned?
Anyone?
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lebaron413
Posted 2013-05-14 12:54 AM (#375118 - in reply to #375114)
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Location: B.C. Canada		Only story I can relate, is the Supercharged Chrysler 300F, driven by Andy Granatelli at Bonneville. Set a 2 way speed record of 172.6 MPH, this of course was a specially prepared Chrysler, for an all out run at the Record. John
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StillOutThere
Posted 2013-05-14 11:35 AM (#375168 - in reply to #375118)
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Granatelli used double Paxtons.   Only good for 189.99 mph at Bonneville.





(1960 Chrysler 300F Bonneville Salt Flats Race Car 413 Engine w-Twin Paxton Superchargers BW.jpg)



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StillOutThere
Posted 2013-05-14 11:36 AM (#375169 - in reply to #375114)
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Location: Under the X in Texas		There also were kits to install Latham superchargers on the 331-392 Hemis. I don't have a photo.
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JT Vincent
Posted 2013-05-14 1:29 PM (#375178 - in reply to #375114)
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Location: Jamaica Plain, MA		Superchargers, as far as I know weren't ever an option from the factory or dealer. The ram manifolds coupled with displacement and tuning made a supercharger overkill for anything except extreme race driving. I'm sure many superchargers were fitted by shade tree mechanics, though. Here is a type of ram induction custom made by Chrysler engineer, Tom Hoover for his 58 Plymouth with a 392 Hemi.



(392-ram-manifold.jpg)



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57chizler
Posted 2013-05-14 4:52 PM (#375205 - in reply to #375114)
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Not Forward Look and not factory but Mr. Norm of Grand Spaulding Dodge in Chicago offered brand new '72 Dodge Demons with a Paxton supercharger. Dodge Demon 340 GSS



(Demon GSS.jpg)



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Rodger
Posted 2013-05-14 6:27 PM (#375222 - in reply to #375114)
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If a "turbo charger" was available in yester-year, do any of you think a "super charger" would have had a chance ???



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ttotired
Posted 2013-05-14 6:57 PM (#375228 - in reply to #375114)
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Location: Perth Australia		Yep

The charactoristics (Spelling?) of the 2 are different and (personally), a 671 sticking out the bonnet looks far tougher than
a couple of snails hanging off the exhaust.

Having set up a car (engine) for a turbo once that was never meant to have one, I do think the turbo would have been more
popular with the hotrodders because they are easier to fit and generally cheaper.

I have an ambition to put a blower on a poly engine, one day it will happen

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58sportsuburban
Posted 2013-05-14 7:27 PM (#375233 - in reply to #375222)
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Rodger - 2013-05-14 6:27 PM

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If a "turbo charger" was available in yester-year, do any of you think a "super charger" would have had a chance ???



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Olds had a turbo back in '62.


http://vinson.hagleyblogs.org/2012/12/11/the-oldsmobile-f85-jetfire...
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muddy
Posted 2013-05-15 4:01 AM (#375297 - in reply to #375114)
Subject: Re: Supercharged?


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Location: South Australia		WOW!
189mph in a '60 Chrysler...Man i bet he was glad he at least had a steering wheel to hang on to!!

It was just an observation that i had seen the odd ford (had seen a couple on Thunderbirds) and at least one Chev fitted with "Factory" (i would say dealer fitted) superscharger's, but not one on a Chrysler product...seems odd as they weren't strangers to the performance scene??
Also in saying all this i well imagine that superchargers were not cheap,and more of an elite thing or mainly aimed at the racing scene.
I suppose that's not to say there's one yet to be uncovered...but unlikley.
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57burb
Posted 2013-05-15 5:03 PM (#375391 - in reply to #375297)
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Location: DFW, TX		There was never a factory supercharger option on a FL car and I don't recall ever seeing any dealer-installed superchargers.

However, I'm sure there were at least a few. And you always have your enterprising types that take on the task for themselves.

Like Norm. This is Norman Thatcher, and he went to Bonneville many times over the years with some mild and wild rides. This is his '59 effort, a Dodge hardtop running various Chrysler Hemi engines.







And this '57 Plymouth sedan by EJ Potter had a supercharged Allison V12. He did a similar installation into his wife's '63 Valiant wagon. Once that car had been raced for a few years, he put the slant-six back in and his wife continued using it.





This is one of the more tame vehicles by "the Michigan Madman." What he's really known for is having a 500hp injected Chevy V8 attached to a motorcycle frame - with no clutch. With the bike on the kickstand, he would start the engine, get that back wheel spinning, then have an assistant push the bike down off the stand. Google it.





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GearSpear
Posted 2013-05-16 6:56 AM (#375468 - in reply to #375228)
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ttotired - 2013-05-14 6:57 PM

I have an ambition to put a blower on a poly engine, one day it will happen


cool idea...
i have to wonder how much performance gain there would be, but the "sound" gained would be impressive...
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JT Vincent
Posted 2013-05-16 12:02 PM (#375518 - in reply to #375114)
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Location: Jamaica Plain, MA		Note in the Norm Thacher engine pic, it's a 370 Hemi with a GMC blower.
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ttotired
Posted 2013-05-16 6:57 PM (#375587 - in reply to #375114)
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Location: Perth Australia		Dont really know about the performance side, I guess it would depend on how much you drive or underdrive the blower

I am starting to assemble the parts now, but I am not in a rush to do this yet, still got a dodge to get going (the blower is not planned for the dodge)

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lozrox58
Posted 2016-10-17 1:39 AM (#523620 - in reply to #375222)
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Rodger - 2013-05-15 8:27 AM

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If a "turbo charger" was available in yester-year, do any of you think a "super charger" would have had a chance ???



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Turbocharged engines have been around since the 1930's, so I'm not sure what you mean by 'yesteryear'. Especially since it was invented in 1905. Even today turbos and superchargers have different purposes. In the 1960's turbos were dropped in favour of superchargers because of reliability issues. So it was the turbocharger that almost died a natural death. The argument over which is better will go on at infinite-um. For modern cars I have both, a supercharged Holden and a turbocharged BMW. Quite frankly for day to day driving the supercharged engine is better.

Edited by lozrox58 2016-10-17 1:41 AM
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Posted 2016-10-18 5:51 AM (#523712 - in reply to #375114)
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Location: North Australia		Here is a pic of Mr Granatelli and his twin supercharged F. And a link to a couple more pics of the car. What a machine (Andy, that is!).

https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&c...











(Andy and his F.jpg)



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