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Location: North Australia | Same guy is selling the 57 D500 wagon.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Plymouth-Fury-FURY-1956-plymouth-fur...
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Location: atlanta | I wonder if that's My old car, not many sticks were produced. |
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Location: Alaska | I would love to have this car but there are many things wrong with it. In looking at his pictures, almost none are of the interior. Someone messed it up by dying everything black. Carbs and manifold are not original, I don't think I would pay any where near $35000 for this car. |
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Location: Parts Unknown | Does the dog come with the car ? 
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Location: So. Cal | This is another one of his auctions - a '62 Fury 2dr hardtop project.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Plymouth-Other-Savoy-Belvedere-Fury-1962-42...
But I don't understand why anyone like him would spend $16k on an original max wedge motor just to put it into a non-matching Fury hardtop car. That doesn't make much sense to me. Does this make sense to anyone else? What is the difference between spending all those bucks on a casting number and just putting in any old RB motor that looks like a max wedge for a lot less money? In the end, the numbers aren't going to match anything. Didn't all these motors get installed into 2dr sedans anyway? I don't get it.
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| Well, it’s a supposed 426 which makes it wrong for a car that came with a 413. It amazes me at how many 60's era cars are advertized as the "real thing" when they are anything but.
In 1962 and 1963 Max Wedges were available in many models including 2 door posts and hardtops. I knew a guy who had a 1962 Plymouth Sport Fury convertible with a Max Wedge and Torqueflite. Black car, real pretty but still ...... Said he never would have ordered it with the 413 if they would have offered a 383 in 1962. He worked in the parts department of Chrysler - Plymouth - Dodge dealer and having it tuned and valves adjusted every month was not out of the question for him. Having it towed back to Milwaukee from Madison on a weekend night after lunching the motor wasn't high on his list of fun things to do though.
This was the lower (11 to 1?) compression motor. I don't know that any of the 13.5 to 1 motors were put into anything other than cars destined for the race track but I do think that included both 2 door hardtops and sedans albeit I doubt any Fury's and/or Polara's. In 62 and 63 some people considered 11 to 1 motors street machines. Well, I guess for the times when Mopar, Chevy, Pontiac, ford and maybe a Merc or two were built with huge ports, cam with lobes the size of idiot's heads and all sorts of what used to be called "full race" goodies maybe they were. Just not all that much for day to day reliability. Most of the dual quad, high output 406's were pretty much dogs until junior would blow the original mill and then a dealer installed short block and general rebuild of everything elase would really liven them up. HO Pontiac's would come with the "good", high pressure valve springs in a box in the truck to be installed after so many miles (can't recall how many) so the cam would be "seasoned" (i.e. hardened) enough for them. Install them too early and your idiots head shaped lobes became just another bearing surface; nice and round.
These were cars that required constant servicing and tuning. Spark plugs and motor oil were generally purchased by the case and if you didn't know how to set up a dual point distributor you were pretty much lost unless you could afford to have it re-done once a month. The amazing thing about this is the 1966 Street Hemi wasn't all that much better. The biggest change from the race motors was the milder cam and the inline manifold done mainly to allow use of engine heat so the dang things would be able to run at all when cold.
Just think about the advances made in a few short years when HO 440's were all over the street running about as fast as an 11 to 1 Max and still be driveable albeit you still needed to understand dual points. Mechanic who worked for me did tell me that he did have to plug the scoop for his six-pack 69 Road Runner in cold weather but they were still way more streetable than the earlier Max Wedges.
Guy moved into my neighborhood in spring 1971 who had a 1970 six-pack Road Runner. First thing I noticed were his near bald rear tires while the fronts appeared hardly worn. When I talked to him about it he said he had just sold the darn car and what a P.O.S. it was. After further discussion I figured the guy liked to go fast but had no idea of how to maintain such a car. His problems all were due to the nature of the beast. Shoulda had a 383 at most.
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Location: Twin Falls, Idaho | I have a rusty hulk that came out of ND that is a stick, OD and had 2x4 on the Mopar aluminum manifold with WCFB's like they were supposed to have.
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Location: Twin Falls, Idaho | I think it is a mid-20's car at best.
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Location: Parts Unknown | JGHags - 2013-12-20 5:14 PM
I knew a guy who had a 1962 Plymouth Sport Fury convertible with a Max Wedge and Torqueflite. Black car, real pretty but still ...... Said he never would have ordered it with the 413 if they would have offered a 383 in 1962.
Guy moved into my neighborhood in spring 1971 who had a 1970 six-pack Road Runner. First thing I noticed were his near bald rear tires while the fronts appeared hardly worn. When I talked to him about it he said he had just sold the darn car and what a P.O.S. it was. After further discussion I figured the guy liked to go fast but had no idea of how to maintain such a car. His problems all were due to the nature of the beast. Shoulda had a 383 at most.
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By chance, I stumbled into a hopelessly wrecked 67 R/T 440 magnum car that became the donor
for my ragtop. With a mild build (not into racing) it is still just WAY too much engine for a late 60's
B-body car. At least for pleasure driving. I have never owned a car that required such unbroken
attention to driving. A little heavy on the gas, it goes sideways, make and awkward shift, it can go
sideways. It is bad enough going in a straight line, do it on a curve and it can really surprise you.
It can waste a pair of new tires with no effort at all. If I had to do it over again, I would have done
a 383. Much better on gas, plenty of go, and better matched to the size/weight proportions of a
typical 50's-60's driver. The 440 is just too much.  Racing is a whole different enchilada. 
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Location: Alaska | In the early 70s in Ore. my brother bought a genuine 63 Plymouth Max wedge race car. 2 dr. post body, 426 w/torqflite. It had been run hard and was tired. I was so impressed at the time by those factory cast iron exhaust manifolds and of course the dual quad cross ram. This was not a streetable car. He had it a few months and then pulled the engine and sold the car ,kept the engine for a few years and then sold it. We never knew that the car would become so valuable. Of course we also never had the money back then to prepare and race it.
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Location: NE Ohio | More pics of this '56:
http://s1091.photobucket.com/user/moparmontana/library/CARS%20FOR%2... |
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