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oldwood
Posted 2014-01-11 4:28 PM (#421534)
Subject: '59 Dodge Custom Royal 4dr HT


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henricthornsund
Posted 2014-01-11 4:39 PM (#421535 - in reply to #421534)
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ronbo97
Posted 2014-01-11 5:36 PM (#421542 - in reply to #421535)
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VIN is located on top of the firewall on passenger side. It's combined with the dataplate. I believe the cars built in Newark, DE, have it near the master cyl.

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oldwood
Posted 2014-01-11 6:00 PM (#421546 - in reply to #421542)
Subject: Re: '59 Dodge Custom Royal


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Location: little rock, AR		No VIN plate at the Data Plate or by the Master Cyl. Is the VIN included in the Data Plate info??? This is a factory 4bbl car but not sure what size engine.



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d500neil
Posted 2014-01-11 6:02 PM (#421548 - in reply to #421542)
Subject: Re: '59 Dodge Custom Royal



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Asked if you've looked for the Broadcast Sheet, yet, and posted the image of this P/T plate before
you posted your car's P/T.

The B-Sheet might also be found folded up underneath the carpeting, as well as behind the
glove box.

Mentioned that your P/T is coded for having both the quarter panel chevrons and the end-of-fin
chrome 'Sweep' molding.

Said that your car was built o.o.a. 3/17/59 (apparently), and that its interior motif looks like
Neutral, so with Swivel seats: S78.






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oldwood
Posted 2014-01-11 8:35 PM (#421561 - in reply to #421534)
Subject: Re: '59 Dodge Custom Royal


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Location: little rock, AR		Thanks Neil and others for the VIN/Serial # location. I'm familiar with VIN location on '60 and '61 Plymouths. Here are some pics showing the major rust problems. However, I'm really happy with floor pans. The passenger front pan has bad rot. The other 3 pans are solid. What year and makes interchange with the '59 Dodge. I need a windshield and trunk pan. Arkansas in not AZ or CA so we have our share of RUST. I didn't realize how scarce '59 Dodges are, even on this web site. Arkansas is expected to have 5-6 days of sunshine so now is the time to see if this car will run.

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Posted 2014-01-11 10:21 PM (#421581 - in reply to #421534)
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ronbo97
Posted 2014-01-12 1:02 AM (#421597 - in reply to #421581)
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Neil -

Who owns the turquoise and white Coronet convertible that is shown in your dataplate pic ? That one is not in the registry.

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VAN HELSING
Posted 2014-01-12 1:35 AM (#421601 - in reply to #421561)
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oldwood - 2014-01-12 12:35 PM

Thanks Neil and others for the VIN/Serial # location. I'm familiar with VIN location on '60 and '61 Plymouths. Here are some pics showing the major rust problems. However, I'm really happy with floor pans. The passenger front pan has bad rot. The other 3 pans are solid. What year and makes interchange with the '59 Dodge. I need a windshield and trunk pan. Arkansas in not AZ or CA so we have our share of RUST. I didn't realize how scarce '59 Dodges are, even on this web site. Arkansas is expected to have 5-6 days of sunshine so now is the time to see if this car will run.


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Congratulations on your new '59 Dodge from another '59 Dodge owner

Good to see another '59 Dodge owner on here...

If this is any help here's a trunk floor pan on evilbay



http://www.ebay.com/itm/TRUNK-FLOOR-PAN-CHRYSLER-DESOTO-DODGE-1957-...

BUT....... I've read on here when I first bought my '59 Dodge that these are not much better than buying flat sheet metal , don't look like the OEM and would work if you aren't fussy but if you are a purist restorer then it may not be for you.

Same with the floor pans here..... so I've also read..........

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LEFT-SIDE-UNDER-THE-FRONT-SEAT-FLOOR-PAN-CH...

My trunk floor pan wasn't quite as bad as yours seems to be in your pics but not too far from that condition anyway.

I eventually got a not-too-bad one from John at BIG M which was from a '58 Desoto Firesweep. John said the Desoto Firesweeps share the same/similar chassis as Dodge so that might help expand your searching horizons when you start looking for a better one. When it arrived here in Australia a few months later it was exactly the same as my '59 Dodge trunk floor pan and was just as John described along with the pics he sent me before I bought it so I was happy with it. It was the best one he had at the time, maybe give John a call, he might have some more stock come in since I bought mine from him.

I know Jerry ( 59 in Calif ) on the forum here has done his '59 Dodge trunk pan and is way ahead of me in his trunk floor pan rebuild so maybe Jerry could offer some advice based on his experience with his car. Jerry has helped me a heck of a lot with pics of his trunk floor rebuild, certainly helps me so that when my chemotherapy is over so I can get into starting some actual work on my Dodge.

So, in a nutshell, from what I've been able to find out , the Dodge's from '57 to '59 share the same floor pans and trunk pan along with the '58 Desoto Firesweep which also ( at least ) shares the same trunk pan as well, maybe ??? also the '57 and '59 Desoto's also ??? and maybe ?? their floor pans are the same ?????

Windshields ?? ............

Here's one that says it fits your 4 door hard top

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1957-1959-Chrysler-Dodge-Plymouth-Windshiel...

Hope this info is of help to you......

Terry.

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oldwood
Posted 2014-01-12 2:15 AM (#421604 - in reply to #421601)
Subject: Re: '59 Dodge Custom Royal 4dr HT


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Location: little rock, AR		Thanks, Terry on the Yr. and models that work. I have a couple of '57 Plymouth parts cars so maybe I have a good windshield. Maybe John(Big M) will chime in soon on application info. I'm sure that I'm like most of ya'll in that I want to hear it run. I did get most of the wet carpet out yesterday. I'm going to pull the seats and vacuum it well. The door panels are in excellent shape. Headliner cardboard is droopy but not broken,yea!!! I know how to fix that problem. I've read that there were less 4dr HT's made than 2dr HT's. I'm trying to get with the original owners wife to get any extra info and documentation on this car. I'm hoping for pictures of when it was new. I feel lucky to have the cars that I've kept and I just want to keep this swivel seat 4dr HT.

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oldwood
Posted 2014-01-12 10:31 AM (#421645 - in reply to #421604)
Subject: Re: '59 Dodge Custom Royal 4dr HT


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oldwood
Posted 2014-01-12 4:02 PM (#421703 - in reply to #421534)
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Location: little rock, AR		I spent most of the day cleaning it out. I pulled the seats out and found some treasures. I found 3 of these hub caps in the Hoarders house and put them on for some bling pictures. The floors pans were in really good shape considering this car was licensed last in 1972. The worst damage was confined to the passenger front. A few more years of wet carpet and well you know.

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oldwood
Posted 2014-01-12 8:59 PM (#421734 - in reply to #421534)
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Location: little rock, AR		Here are the items I found in the car. I haven't gone through the contents of the trunk yet.



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SavoyPlaza
Posted 2014-01-13 11:05 AM (#421802 - in reply to #421534)
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It seems that this sickness is going around something fierce!
I just bought a Coronet sedan from Wayne, pictured below.
Wayne is a good guy to deal with.

If you find the cure, Dorsey, that'll make it stop, let me know. Don't tell my wife, though!!
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Posted 2014-01-13 11:12 AM (#421803 - in reply to #421534)
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1945 quarter = real 92% silver... score!
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oldwood
Posted 2014-01-13 11:22 AM (#421807 - in reply to #421802)
Subject: Re: '59 Dodge Custom Royal 4dr HT


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Location: little rock, AR		Pete you are the 2nd person wanting that church key. Yea i was hoping to find a BAG of those quarters but I'm grateful for the 1. With change that I've found in this car I have made a profit over what I paid for it. I do have some beach front property for sale if you believe that. I've been known to part out a car but not a 4dr HT. I hope to have it running before the end of the week.
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ronbo97
Posted 2014-01-13 7:46 PM (#421889 - in reply to #421802)
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SavoyPlaza -

Any more pics of your 59 Dodge ? Is it a 6 or V8 ? Options ?

Ron



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d500neil
Posted 2014-01-13 8:00 PM (#421898 - in reply to #421889)
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Location: bishop, ca		Ron, I checked my 59 file folder, and all I have on that vert is its removed P/T plate.

however, that plate's image may have been sent by Kent Johansson.

Dorsey, there are no code-stampings shown at the upper-right area of your car's Broadcast Sheet?

Where did you find it, in the car?




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oldwood
Posted 2014-01-13 11:05 PM (#421945 - in reply to #421534)
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Location: little rock, AR		Here are 2 new pics of the Car Production Broadcast sheet that I found on top of the glove box. The right hand corner got wet or ???. There are 3 #'s in the right hand corner of this sheet. I believe they are 103. I know the 1 and 3 are correct #'s but the 0 is faint and may be another number. What is all of the info in the Special Instruction Box??? What size engine is in this car. It is a 4bbl engine. I haven't found the Engine #. What does "1" mean under axle ratio? what does "5" mean under A/C/Heater?

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ronbo97
Posted 2014-01-13 11:20 PM (#421948 - in reply to #421945)
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You have a 361 in your beast.

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Posted 2014-01-14 9:24 AM (#421998 - in reply to #421534)
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im third in line - i want that church key!!!!!
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Posted 2014-01-16 12:36 AM (#422308 - in reply to #421534)
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oldwood - 2014-01-11 4:28 PM Where do I stop? When do I stop? I need to stop!!! Why do I want to stop? I DON'T WANT TO STOP. I feel much better now.  QUOTE]

 

Dorsey, you may get lucky and it will stop ............. In your NEXT life.

What a beauty that Dodge must have been when new. Nicely equipped too.

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oldwood
Posted 2014-01-17 4:57 PM (#422592 - in reply to #421534)
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Location: little rock, AR		I met the granddaughter of the man who owned this car. She claims that he bought it new. However the dates on the title says it was bought in 1963 with a lien amt. of $1,463.76. The granddaughter is going to get me photos of when he bought it. The motor turns over but I pulled the plugs to fill the cyl's with MMO. I hope to fire it up soon. I guess I could order the Chrysler report to see where it was delivered.

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VAN HELSING
Posted 2014-01-18 7:54 AM (#422702 - in reply to #422592)
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I find it really fascinating when old cars come with a some of their history, my Dodge came with receipts dating back to 1985.

Love seeing threads like this showing historical paperwork telling the cars storyline

Same guys hand writing in same blue pen on your broadcast sheet as is on my broadcast sheet and seems to be the same as other 59 Dodge owners that have been posted their sheets up here on the forum.

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Posted 2014-01-18 1:17 PM (#422731 - in reply to #421534)
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oldwood
Posted 2014-01-18 9:02 PM (#422807 - in reply to #422731)
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Location: little rock, AR		I got the plugs back in and noticed the rotor was not secure on the distributor shaft. I got one tonight and put it on but still not running even though pouring gas down carb. I checked the fuel pump and its not pumping. I think the starter is dragging some. I knew it was going to take some effort since it was last tagged in 1972. I'm glad I have a 1960 Matador parts car with a 361. I'll probably pull the starter off of it. I do have headlights, horn, taillights and blinkers. I just have to work out the bugs.
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VAN HELSING
Posted 2014-01-19 2:04 AM (#422862 - in reply to #422807)
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Just getting back to your need for a replacement trunk floor, here's an ebay link showing a Desoto Firesweep.

If you scroll through the photos you can see a pic of the trunk floor pan in the Firesweep you'll notice it's the same as the one in your '59 Dodge ( if you can imagine your 59 Dodge without the rust outs ) .


http://www.ebay.com/itm/DeSoto-Firesweep-Base-1957-desoto-firesweep...

So that's an option if you can't get one from a 59 Dodge.

I've seen a trunk floor from a 58 Plymouth down here in Australia and it doesn't look the same as my 59 Dodge trunk floor, maybe it could fit ?? but it's swage lines are different.

Hope that;s of help to you.

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d500neil
Posted 2014-01-19 4:46 PM (#422951 - in reply to #421534)
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Location: bishop, ca		Dorsey, there are no options codes at the top right of your car's Broadcast Sheet; just wanted to be sure.

The hand written 1 & 3 are inspector's marks.

The hand written notations on the Special Instructions were for the benefit of the dash board's assemblers and painters.

It specifies that your dash be constructed to represent A Custom Royal hardtop, in the Tan motif (from your initial photos,
I had thought that its scheme might have been 'Neutral', but it is finished in the Tan scheme).

The 'N' is also the Final Inspector's approval notation.

Its axle ratio is the standard 2.93:1 .

What is relatively unusual about your ride is that it is a Top of the Line model, but lightly optioned, but, it has the Swivel Seat
installed in it....in a 4-door hardtop.




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oldwood
Posted 2014-01-19 5:53 PM (#422956 - in reply to #422951)
Subject: Re: '59 Dodge Custom Royal 4dr HT


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Location: little rock, AR		Thanks Neil for the info. I thought I would have it running by now but my battery went south. Even though its a low option Custom Royal I'm really excited about it being a 4dr HT. Now if I could just find one of those Blondes, Brunettes, Red Head with Loooooong Legs to model the swivel seat. I know I'm REAL SICK!!!
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d500neil
Posted 2014-01-19 6:51 PM (#422960 - in reply to #421534)
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can't pull off that same move, too.









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oldwood
Posted 2014-03-22 8:32 PM (#432518 - in reply to #421534)
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Location: little rock, AR		With help of Jarod from this site, you always need a helping hand when your starting one that has sat since 1972. I got it to fire up. Besides the exhaust or better stated, no exhaust it really sounded good. I was running some free gas mixed with boat motor oil and it smelled good. Everyone knows what next, more $$$ is needed and donations are accepted. LOL Updates to follow.
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oldwood
Posted 2014-03-29 11:53 PM (#433759 - in reply to #421534)
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Location: little rock, AR		Here are a cpl of new pics. The gauges are showing what was going on after the oil change. The 2nd pic is one of my favorites.



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Posted 2014-03-30 8:17 AM (#433785 - in reply to #421534)
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Posted 2014-03-30 9:00 AM (#433789 - in reply to #433785)
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Looks like it's just came out of the crypt and it ain't happy 'bout being buried !!

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Posted 2014-03-31 8:53 AM (#433956 - in reply to #421534)
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Posted 2014-03-31 12:21 PM (#433985 - in reply to #421534)
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Posted 2014-03-31 4:04 PM (#434003 - in reply to #421534)
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Posted 2014-03-31 4:29 PM (#434007 - in reply to #434003)
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Posted 2014-04-01 6:04 PM (#434184 - in reply to #421534)
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Location: little rock, AR		Not only does it runs but it also DRIVES. I changed all hoses and thermostat and aired up the tires. I bolted the seat back in and sat behind the wheel dreaming of 1959. I reached over and turned the key and fired up the 361. She sat there rumbling with no muffler saying lets go daddy O. I pushed "D" and away we went with no brakes. I went 50ft and turned into my neighbors drive and pulled the E-Brake. My heart was pounding, SHE RAN!!! I tied a rope to my van and lowered it back down to my house with my neighbors help. No this isn't April Fools!!!



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Posted 2014-04-01 7:34 PM (#434200 - in reply to #434184)
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Posted 2014-04-01 7:51 PM (#434204 - in reply to #434200)
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EXCELLENT !!!............... with a heartbeat it's now back from the dead..........

Did you "pawn " off all those old magazines from the trunk ???


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Posted 2014-04-01 10:01 PM (#434219 - in reply to #421534)
Subject: Re: '59 Dodge Custom Royal 4dr HT



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oldwood
Posted 2014-04-02 12:16 AM (#434230 - in reply to #434219)
Subject: Re: '59 Dodge Custom Royal 4dr HT


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60 dart
Posted 2014-04-02 12:36 AM (#434234 - in reply to #421534)
Subject: Re: '59 Dodge Custom Royal 4dr HT



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oldwood
Posted 2014-04-07 9:42 PM (#435001 - in reply to #421534)
Subject: Re: '59 Dodge Custom Royal 4dr HT


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oldwood
Posted 2014-04-07 10:46 PM (#435016 - in reply to #421534)
Subject: Re: '59 Dodge Custom Royal 4dr HT


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VAN HELSING
Posted 2014-04-08 2:10 AM (#435034 - in reply to #435016)
Subject: Re: '59 Dodge Custom Royal 4dr HT



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I'm really liking your Dodge there Dorsey........... it's got some attitude !!!................ love it in that as found condition..................bet it turns some heads on the road !!!!...............can't hide the fact I love rat cars !!


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oldwood
Posted 2014-04-08 4:27 PM (#435110 - in reply to #421534)
Subject: Re: '59 Dodge Custom Royal 4dr HT


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d500neil
Posted 2014-04-08 6:01 PM (#435122 - in reply to #435110)
Subject: Re: '59 Dodge Custom Royal 4dr HT



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You should name him Christopher.

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Does Chris hold a grudge?


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Posted 2014-04-09 9:43 PM (#435268 - in reply to #421534)
Subject: Re: '59 Dodge Custom Royal 4dr HT



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