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baker53 |
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Veteran Posts: 279 Location: Klein, TX | The stripping process has begun. Top of hood stripped; now moving to front fenders. (body shop work 001.jpg) (body shop work 002.jpg) (body shop work 004.jpg) Attachments ---------------- body shop work 001.jpg (65KB - 121 downloads) body shop work 002.jpg (57KB - 121 downloads) body shop work 004.jpg (35KB - 117 downloads) | ||
JT Vincent |
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Expert Posts: 1493 Location: Jamaica Plain, MA | You are kicking ass and taking no prisoners, Bill. Interesting-- my car had the same weak spots, and the same strong spots in terms of rust. | ||
tnlowrider |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 500 Location: Upper East Tennessee | Looks Great Bill! | ||
lownslow |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 440 Location: Vermont | Can't wait to see it all done. | ||
baker53 |
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Veteran Posts: 279 Location: Klein, TX | lownslow - 2014-05-08 8:28 AM Can't wait to see it all done. Me too. I need to get busy selling my '53 Ford mild custom so that I can pay the paint guy, chrome guy and the upholstery guy. Hopefully, the paint will be done in a month and then off to upholstery. I have the parts that needed re-chroming at the shop now and I am hoping they will be ready when it is time to re-install them. I am guessing two months till semi-completion. | ||
FIN ME |
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Expert Posts: 2788 Location: USA - KY | Just sell a kidney on Ebay like I did...made major bank. | ||
baker53 |
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Veteran Posts: 279 Location: Klein, TX | Car is pretty much stripped. Now hood, trunk lid and doors come off to get to the old paint on underside of them. Only have two places where bondo was applied in the past and they should be fairly quick to get back to flat metal. No rust on the body other than the left side rear wheel opening leading edge. So very pleased with the condition of the body. (body shop work 008.jpg) (body shop work 009.jpg) (body shop work 010.jpg) (body shop work 011.jpg) (body shop work 012.jpg) (body shop work 014.jpg) (body shop work 016.jpg) (body shop work 017.jpg) (body shop work 018.jpg) (body shop work 031.jpg) (body shop work 035.jpg) Attachments ---------------- body shop work 008.jpg (56KB - 128 downloads) body shop work 009.jpg (54KB - 132 downloads) body shop work 010.jpg (46KB - 118 downloads) body shop work 011.jpg (45KB - 127 downloads) body shop work 012.jpg (48KB - 122 downloads) body shop work 014.jpg (52KB - 117 downloads) body shop work 016.jpg (50KB - 118 downloads) body shop work 017.jpg (44KB - 117 downloads) body shop work 018.jpg (44KB - 123 downloads) body shop work 031.jpg (58KB - 123 downloads) body shop work 035.jpg (44KB - 132 downloads) | ||
d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | Bill, haven't seen the underside of your car's trunk, but its asphaltic deadener panel should not be painted-over. If your car was built in Detroit, the trunk underside reinforcements would be painted in main-body color; if it was built in L.A. it would have that darkish gray/blue 'primer' color on it. If it hasn't been stripped yet, can you PM me, or post a pic or two showing the extent to which the factory applied the body paint to the under-parcel shelf area? Thanks! Edited by d500neil 2014-05-10 3:02 PM | ||
baker53 |
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Veteran Posts: 279 Location: Klein, TX | d500neil - 2014-05-10 1:57 PM Bill, haven't seen the underside of your car's trunk, but its asphaltic deadener panel should not be painted-over. If your car was built in Detroit, the trunk underside reinforcements would be painted in main-body color; if it was built in L.A. it would have that darkish gray/blue 'primer' color on it. If it hasn't been stripped yet, can you PM me, or post a pic or two showing the extent to which the factory applied the body paint to the under-parcel shelf area? Thanks! Hi Neil, The car was built in Detroit. The next time I am over at the body shop I will try to get the pictures you requested and post them. The deadener on the underside of the trunk lid was not painted. It will be masked off when the new paint is applied to the underside of the trunk lid. | ||
baker53 |
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Veteran Posts: 279 Location: Klein, TX | Any idea on how the grill in front of the windshield is attached. Not sure if it has fasteners that are accessed from under the dash or if it snaps into place. | ||
d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | That's great news, Bill. Masking off the deadener panel is a beotch, because it has to be done so carefully, underlying the reinforcements. Originally, the trunk was fully adjusted to the body, before it was painted-while-elevated-and-installed to the body.. The hood was painted off of the body. Your trunk area shows a classic-example of how only the middle area of the filler tube received paint (over-spray) from the painter getting at the trunk hinge support. The under-side of the parcel shelf got some over-spray from the painting of the trunk support torsion bars. Edited by d500neil 2014-05-10 4:34 PM | ||
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Expert Posts: 4044 Location: Connecticut | baker53 - 2014-05-10 4:25 PM Any idea on how the grill in front of the windshield is attached. Not sure if it has fasteners that are accessed from under the dash or if it snaps into place. It's held in with a bunch of spring clips. To remove it, stick a small tipped screw driver under the lip and pry upward. Work your way clockwise around the vent and you won't bend it as it slowly releases. Ron | ||
baker53 |
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Veteran Posts: 279 Location: Klein, TX | ronbo97 - 2014-05-10 4:59 PM baker53 - 2014-05-10 4:25 PM Any idea on how the grill in front of the windshield is attached. Not sure if it has fasteners that are accessed from under the dash or if it snaps into place. It's held in with a bunch of spring clips. To remove it, stick a small tipped screw driver under the lip and pry upward. Work your way clockwise around the vent and you won't bend it as it slowly releases. Ron Thanks Ron. I will do as you suggest. | ||
baker53 |
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Veteran Posts: 279 Location: Klein, TX | I posted this in the parts wanted section as well. Looking for a package tray speaker grill and a pair of front parking light lens's for a '57 Desoto Firesweep. | ||
1960fury |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7417 Location: northern germany | hopefully that original factory primer was already gone before, because whatever you do you will not get the same quality of the factory baked on primer again. | ||
FIN ME |
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Expert Posts: 2788 Location: USA - KY | Atlas Obsolete might still sell the reproduction parking light lenses. | ||
baker53 |
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Veteran Posts: 279 Location: Klein, TX | 1960fury - 2014-05-12 4:17 PM hopefully that original factory primer was already gone before, because whatever you do you will not get the same quality of the factory baked on primer again. You of course are entitled to your opinion, but I totally disagree with you. It was porus and is not anywhere close to today's catylized primers and paints. I have done about 30 cars over the past 50 years or so and can only speak from my own experience. Once again I say, you are entitled to your opinion, but I don't agree. | ||
baker53 |
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Veteran Posts: 279 Location: Klein, TX | FIN ME - 2014-05-12 4:43 PM Atlas Obsolete might still sell the reproduction parking light lenses. (O) Thanks Rosy, I will check that out. | ||
FIN ME |
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Expert Posts: 2788 Location: USA - KY | And...I just might have an extra rear shelf speaker. I will check the next time I am at the shop. I couldn't find any for the longest time, and then I found three all at once...I think. I will check and let you know! | ||
1960fury |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7417 Location: northern germany | baker53 - 2014-05-12 5:57 PM 1960fury - 2014-05-12 4:17 PM hopefully that original factory primer was already gone before, because whatever you do you will not get the same quality of the factory baked on primer again. You of course are entitled to your opinion, but I totally disagree with you. It was porus and is not anywhere close to today's catylized primers and paints. I have done about 30 cars over the past 50 years or so and can only speak from my own experience. Once again I say, you are entitled to your opinion, but I don't agree. okay i can only speak for 60/61 mopars and 26 years experience restoring these cars. nothing is better than the factory primer. its baked on in special ovens, its like galvanized. once one of my cars got t boned badly. lots of sharp wrinkles in the sheet metal but the primer was still on and even were it stretched most hard to remove. nothing you can duplicate in a paint booth. imo stripping the factory primer is one of the most common mistakes during a restoration. | ||
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Expert Posts: 3967 Location: DFW, TX | Hey Bill, Car is looking great. I thought it looked like a good car before, but the work you are putting into it has taken it to the next level. You do nice work - and fast. FIN ME - 2014-05-12 4:43 PM Atlas Obsolete might still sell the reproduction parking light lenses. (O) I didn't see reproduction lenses, but they do offer NOS. A bit pricey though. http://www.moparmall.com/servlet/the-1643/advnturer-firesweep-fired... If anyone locates some, I am looking for a pair of repro turn signal lenses. | ||
baker53 |
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Veteran Posts: 279 Location: Klein, TX | FIN ME - 2014-05-12 5:09 PM And...I just might have an extra rear shelf speaker. I will check the next time I am at the shop. I couldn't find any for the longest time, and then I found three all at once...I think. I will check and let you know! :cool: Thanks Rosy, I hope you find an extra one. | ||
baker53 |
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Veteran Posts: 279 Location: Klein, TX | 57burb - 2014-05-12 5:19 PM Hey Bill, Car is looking great. I thought it looked like a good car before, but the work you are putting into it has taken it to the next level. You do nice work - and fast. FIN ME - 2014-05-12 4:43 PM Atlas Obsolete might still sell the reproduction parking light lenses. (O) I didn't see reproduction lenses, but they do offer NOS. A bit pricey though. http://www.moparmall.com/servlet/the-1643/advnturer-firesweep-fired... If anyone locates some, I am looking for a pair of repro turn signal lenses. Wow, they sure are proud of them. Hopefully, I'll find a pair of used ones. Thanks for the comment on the car. I am hoping (with fingers, eyes, and toes crossed), that the body and paint work will be done by July 1st. The guy that I use for upholstery moves them through his shop pretty fast. So maybe some cruising time this summer. | ||
baker53 |
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Veteran Posts: 279 Location: Klein, TX | 1960fury - 2014-05-12 5:14 PM baker53 - 2014-05-12 5:57 PM 1960fury - 2014-05-12 4:17 PM hopefully that original factory primer was already gone before, because whatever you do you will not get the same quality of the factory baked on primer again. You of course are entitled to your opinion, but I totally disagree with you. It was porus and is not anywhere close to today's catylized primers and paints. I have done about 30 cars over the past 50 years or so and can only speak from my own experience. Once again I say, you are entitled to your opinion, but I don't agree. okay i can only speak for 60/61 mopars and 26 years experience restoring these cars. nothing is better than the factory primer. its baked on in special ovens, its like galvanized. once one of my cars got t boned badly. lots of sharp wrinkles in the sheet metal but the primer was still on and even were it stretched most hard to remove. nothing you can duplicate in a paint booth. imo stripping the factory primer is one of the most common mistakes during a restoration. That is great, glad to hear you have had such great success keeping the old primer intact. | ||
FIN ME |
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Expert Posts: 2788 Location: USA - KY | What colours/style/materials did you and Cathy decide on for the interior of your car? Can't wait to see it all done and back on the road...in record time, might I add! | ||
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Expert Posts: 1906 Location: Ontario, Canada | Rosy, are you still looking for a sway bar? I might have one. Greg | ||
baker53 |
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Veteran Posts: 279 Location: Klein, TX | d500neil - 2014-05-10 1:57 PM Bill, haven't seen the underside of your car's trunk, but its asphaltic deadener panel should not be painted-over. If your car was built in Detroit, the trunk underside reinforcements would be painted in main-body color; if it was built in L.A. it would have that darkish gray/blue 'primer' color on it. If it hasn't been stripped yet, can you PM me, or post a pic or two showing the extent to which the factory applied the body paint to the under-parcel shelf area? Thanks! Hi Neil, I attached some pictures of the underside parcel shelf area. (body shop work 039.jpg) (body shop work 040.jpg) (body shop work 041.jpg) Attachments ---------------- body shop work 039.jpg (42KB - 110 downloads) body shop work 040.jpg (43KB - 99 downloads) body shop work 041.jpg (54KB - 111 downloads) | ||
baker53 |
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Veteran Posts: 279 Location: Klein, TX | The doors, hood, and trunk lid are off and body work done and metal etching primer applied. Anyone know of a source for nickel bead and "U" channel. The vent window assemblies are out and I need to replace the "U" channels as well as the inner and outer nickel bead on the doors and moldings. Also, what is the proper distance from the edge of the fender to the first mirror mounting hole? Presently, mine is about 11-3/4" and I am not sure if that is correct. (body shop work 049.jpg) (body shop work 047.jpg) (body shop work 053.jpg) Attachments ---------------- body shop work 049.jpg (37KB - 105 downloads) body shop work 047.jpg (28KB - 112 downloads) body shop work 053.jpg (36KB - 110 downloads) | ||
JT Vincent |
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Expert Posts: 1493 Location: Jamaica Plain, MA | Lookin' good, Bill. I'm hoping to take some days off in the upcoming weeks to get my Firesweep ready for the paint shop. I've been casting odds and ends. When I take the parking lights out, I'll assess if I can cast them in clear for you. Should be doable. Edited by JT Vincent 2014-05-13 1:54 PM | ||
baker53 |
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Veteran Posts: 279 Location: Klein, TX | JT Vincent - 2014-05-13 12:53 PM Lookin' good, Bill. I'm hoping to take some days off in the upcoming weeks to get my Firesweep ready for the paint shop. I've been casting odds and ends. When I take the parking lights out, I'll assess if I can cast them in clear for you. Should be doable. That sounds great. I have never tried and casting, but seems like a great thing to know how to do. | ||
FIN ME |
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Expert Posts: 2788 Location: USA - KY | LD3 Greg - 2014-05-13 11:47 AM Rosy, are you still looking for a sway bar? I might have one. Greg I still need one Greg. I very recently asked John Fowlie, but no answer as of yet. The way I drive, I need a sway bar. | ||
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Expert Posts: 1906 Location: Ontario, Canada | I'll see what I have. Need any of the brackets as well? Greg | ||
FIN ME |
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Expert Posts: 2788 Location: USA - KY | Thank you, Greg! But it seems that I should have checked my e-mail first! Big John Fowlie came through and had already found an anti-sway bar with my name on it. But thanks for the thoughtful offer! | ||
baker53 |
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Veteran Posts: 279 Location: Klein, TX | FIN ME - 2014-05-14 12:02 PM Thank you, Greg! But it seems that I should have checked my e-mail first! Big John Fowlie came through and had already found an anti-sway bar with my name on it. But thanks for the thoughtful offer! :cool: Good deal Rosy, we will now have to figure out how to put them on... | ||
LD3 Greg |
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Expert Posts: 1906 Location: Ontario, Canada | Glad you got one Rosy. Yes, they install with considerable difficulty. I soaked the bushings with windex as I kept pounding on things with a rubber mallet. Greg | ||
FIN ME |
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Expert Posts: 2788 Location: USA - KY | Good news...I'm in the mood to hit something! I am warming up my rubber mallet as I type! | ||
baker53 |
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Veteran Posts: 279 Location: Klein, TX | Today's tasks included polishing tail light lenses and repairing the aluminum door sill plates. I used some 3M polishing compound and the tail lights cleaned up very well. My drivers side sill plate was really corroded on the forward vertical part. I tried to find some replacements, but $$$. I ended up taking a piece of .038" aluminum and making overlays for the old door sills and put a small bend on the lower 3/8" like the original. I haven't decided if I will use rivets or adhesive to attach the overlays, but I leaning towards the adhesive. (body shop work 054.jpg) (body shop work 055.jpg) (body shop work 058.jpg) (body shop work 059.jpg) (body shop work 057.jpg) Attachments ---------------- body shop work 054.jpg (60KB - 107 downloads) body shop work 055.jpg (64KB - 109 downloads) body shop work 058.jpg (61KB - 106 downloads) body shop work 059.jpg (52KB - 101 downloads) body shop work 057.jpg (58KB - 111 downloads) | ||
baker53 |
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Veteran Posts: 279 Location: Klein, TX | Some pictures of the body work going on at present. (body shop work 071.jpg) (body shop work 072.jpg) (body shop work 073.jpg) (body shop work 076.jpg) (body shop work 077.jpg) (body shop work 078.jpg) (body shop work 079.jpg) (body shop work 080.jpg) (body shop work 081.jpg) (body shop work 082.jpg) (body shop work 083.jpg) (body shop work 084.jpg) (body shop work 085.jpg) (body shop work 086.jpg) (body shop work 087.jpg) (body shop work 088.jpg) (body shop work 089.jpg) Attachments ---------------- body shop work 071.jpg (49KB - 110 downloads) body shop work 072.jpg (49KB - 102 downloads) body shop work 073.jpg (46KB - 107 downloads) body shop work 076.jpg (42KB - 107 downloads) body shop work 077.jpg (46KB - 111 downloads) body shop work 078.jpg (58KB - 111 downloads) body shop work 079.jpg (46KB - 98 downloads) body shop work 080.jpg (32KB - 107 downloads) body shop work 081.jpg (54KB - 105 downloads) body shop work 082.jpg (42KB - 109 downloads) body shop work 083.jpg (44KB - 110 downloads) body shop work 084.jpg (50KB - 105 downloads) body shop work 085.jpg (54KB - 93 downloads) body shop work 086.jpg (58KB - 105 downloads) body shop work 087.jpg (61KB - 108 downloads) body shop work 088.jpg (42KB - 102 downloads) body shop work 089.jpg (39KB - 104 downloads) | ||
d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | THANKS for those pics, Bill! Is it too late to see the painting on/around the passenger's side hinge and/or on the X-brace at the end of the trunk? Note how the painter spayed the trunk from directly behind it, and aimed the nozzle at the leading edge of the parcel shelf, where he 'got' to the torsion bars. It also looks like his instructions were to paint the X-brace, but not to worry about getting the parcel shelf (or the hinges; note the spray- shadows on them)...fully painted. | ||
d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | Also, note that a 'major' source-location for trunk leakages are at the joint-seam, seen in the middle of this photo, where water would leak through of the large base-of-back-glass molding-trim mounting holes...and, then, drip/run down along the wheel wells, invisibly, behind the cardboard trunk liners. (body.jpg) (body.jpg) Attachments ---------------- body.jpg (54KB - 97 downloads) body.jpg (46KB - 91 downloads) | ||
d500dodge59 |
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Veteran Posts: 245 | you can buy new doorsillplares from michael burk in michigan his phone is 517-605-5345 or mail c300f@hotmail.com they are $385 pair he dont have many left and i dont have plans to make any new ones rigth now Thanks JAN | ||
baker53 |
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Veteran Posts: 279 Location: Klein, TX | d500dodge59 - 2014-05-24 7:42 AM you can buy new doorsillplares from michael burk in michigan his phone is 517-605-5345 or mail c300f@hotmail.com they are $385 pair he dont have many left and i dont have plans to make any new ones rigth now Thanks JAN Thanks for the info Jan. | ||
baker53 |
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Veteran Posts: 279 Location: Klein, TX | Worked on hood hinge assemblies and the vent window assemblies this weekend. Fortunately the rubber seals around the vent windows were in great condition. Still very pliable and made a good seal around the glass and the frame. Installed new division bar window channel and they are now ready for re-install after the car is painted. The hood hinges were in very good condition as well, so just a clean-up and they are ready for re-install as well. (body shop work 091.jpg) (body shop work 090.jpg) Attachments ---------------- body shop work 091.jpg (62KB - 98 downloads) body shop work 090.jpg (56KB - 110 downloads) | ||
baker53 |
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Veteran Posts: 279 Location: Klein, TX | Just received a call from the chrome plating shop. The parts are all done and ready for pick-up. As Fin Me says, now it's time to sell a kidney to pay the bill. | ||
FIN ME |
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Expert Posts: 2788 Location: USA - KY | Dang, that was fast! Can't wait to see all of that new chrome on top of that new paint! | ||
baker53 |
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Veteran Posts: 279 Location: Klein, TX | FIN ME - 2014-05-26 8:25 AM Dang, that was fast! Can't wait to see all of that new chrome on top of that new paint! :cool: Me too.... | ||
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Location: Parts Unknown | What exactly is taking so long here ???? | ||
baker53 |
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Veteran Posts: 279 Location: Klein, TX | Doctor DeSoto - 2014-05-26 3:15 PM What exactly is taking so long here ???? Don't know, perhaps just laziness on my part. | ||
baker53 |
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Veteran Posts: 279 Location: Klein, TX | Rainy day down here so I decided to make a spring for the door opening handle. The old had broken and the handle would rattle. Seems like about 20 years ago a pal gave me a spring winding setup so I put it to use. All is good now, plus we got a really good soaking rain which we really needed. (body shop work 095.jpg) (body shop work 092.jpg) (body shop work 093.jpg) (body shop work 094.jpg) Attachments ---------------- body shop work 095.jpg (23KB - 101 downloads) body shop work 092.jpg (32KB - 115 downloads) body shop work 093.jpg (25KB - 103 downloads) body shop work 094.jpg (42KB - 95 downloads) | ||
JT Vincent |
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Expert Posts: 1493 Location: Jamaica Plain, MA | It's probably rude to ask, but I'm wondering what the cost for the front air-intake bumper (not the lower one) and the rear bumper and jet-pods was. I'm trying to figure out if I should try to do this for this season. | ||
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