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baker53
Posted 2014-05-27 1:16 PM (#442481 - in reply to #442474)
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JT Vincent - 2014-05-27 11:45 AM

It's probably rude to ask, but I'm wondering what the cost for the front air-intake bumper (not the lower one) and the rear bumper and jet-pods was. I'm trying to figure out if I should try to do this for this season.


Hi JT, I don't know the individual prices on the parts. He looked it all over and came back with a price and after he splashed some water on me to revive me, I said OK. I will post some pix of the parts I picked up today.
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baker53
Posted 2014-05-27 1:18 PM (#442483 - in reply to #442481)
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Location: Klein, TX		Made the trip to the plating shop this morning and brought back some pieces. All the parts look great.







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baker53
Posted 2014-05-27 3:38 PM (#442507 - in reply to #442483)
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Location: Klein, TX		I had an e-mail about the spring winder I used to make the replacement door handle spring, so I thought I would post a few pictures of it. It is called a Porter Spring Winder, model P-2 and came with mandrels for making springs 1/8" to 1-1/4" diameter in 1/16" increments. You can make either right hand or left hand wound springs, either compression type or torsion type.





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FIN ME
Posted 2014-05-27 5:03 PM (#442523 - in reply to #425095)
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It's bling BLISS!

It all looks really good, baker53!


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baker53
Posted 2014-05-27 5:58 PM (#442531 - in reply to #442523)
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FIN ME - 2014-05-27 4:03 PM


It's bling BLISS!

It all looks really good, baker53!


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Thanks Rosy, just 20 pieces of stainless trim to go. I will take them over to the shop in the morning. I had polished them myself, but they look like crap when compared to the ones the chrome shop did. So.... it's only $$$ right
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57desoto
Posted 2014-05-27 6:44 PM (#442541 - in reply to #425095)
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Location: New Castle PA		I don't know what YOUR polishing job looks like, Bill, but your chrome shop did such a nice job that I actually thought you had chromed the stainless. Nice work with EVERYTHING you're doing!
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d500neil
Posted 2014-05-27 7:10 PM (#442543 - in reply to #425095)
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Location: bishop, ca		So, who is the chromer-polishing company?

Any chance to get a pic or two of the passenger's side trunk hinge/parcel shelf area?



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baker53
Posted 2014-05-27 7:42 PM (#442549 - in reply to #442543)
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d500neil - 2014-05-27 6:10 PM

So, who is the chromer-polishing company?

Any chance to get a pic or two of the passenger's side trunk hinge/parcel shelf area?




Hi Neil, I am hoping to get over to the body shop tomorrow and take some pictures. The company doing the plating is CUSTOM POLISH CHROME, 424 Hill Rd. Houston, TX 77037. e-mail custompolishchrome@gmail.com phone: 832 770-4925
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baker53
Posted 2014-05-27 7:48 PM (#442551 - in reply to #442541)
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57desoto - 2014-05-27 5:44 PM

I don't know what YOUR polishing job looks like, Bill, but your chrome shop did such a nice job that I actually thought you had chromed the stainless. Nice work with EVERYTHING you're doing!


Thanks Ed, It is amazing what they can do with a piece of stainless. Lots of care and dedication to the process sure makes a difference. The stuff I did looks great from 5 or 10 feet, but up close it can't hold a candle to what they do. They do a lot of exotic cars for clients around the world. Some of stuff they have brought in looks like swiss cheese and goes out looking far better than new.
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baker53
Posted 2014-05-28 12:47 PM (#442679 - in reply to #442543)
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d500neil - 2014-05-27 6:10 PM

So, who is the chromer-polishing company?

Any chance to get a pic or two of the passenger's side trunk hinge/parcel shelf area?





Hi Neil, I tried to get some pictures of the area you requested. I hope they are what you need. There is some primer over-spray. Probably will not be able to get any additional pictures. I will be going over on Friday, but I think that area will be unavailable for more pictures.







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baker53
Posted 2014-05-28 12:56 PM (#442683 - in reply to #442679)
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Location: Klein, TX		Dropped off the remaining 20 pieces of stainless trim at the chrome shop today. Owner says it should be ready in 10 days.





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baker53
Posted 2014-05-28 1:17 PM (#442689 - in reply to #442683)
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Location: Klein, TX		Stopped by the body shop this morning. The body is in primer with a guide coat and ready for long board work. Hopefully, painting will start next week.





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baker53
Posted 2014-05-28 1:20 PM (#442691 - in reply to #442683)
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Location: Klein, TX		Work is also underway on the interior side of the doors.





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JT Vincent
Posted 2014-05-28 2:00 PM (#442697 - in reply to #425095)
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baker53
Posted 2014-05-28 4:34 PM (#442716 - in reply to #442697)
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JT Vincent - 2014-05-28 1:00 PM

I put a stainless cowl vent on my Firesweep. Inexpensive and cool looking.


I did not know they were available. Got any info on them?
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baker53
Posted 2014-05-29 3:25 PM (#442861 - in reply to #442716)
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Location: Klein, TX		Reassembled the front and rear bumpers today. All ready for install on the car after paint is completed.





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Posted 2014-05-29 4:29 PM (#442874 - in reply to #425095)
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Posted 2014-05-29 5:42 PM (#442885 - in reply to #425095)
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Location: bishop, ca		THANKS for those additional pics, Bill!

I'm going to archive them.

With such a casual pass-around, I'm impressed that the painters got the torsion bars well covered, along with
the hinge supports, and the hinge levers.

Note how this hinge was elevated (along with the trunk) when it was painted, and the paint could not reach its
upper/inner area.

The (upper-) cross-brace was painted almost as an after thought, along with parts of the parcel shelf.

Also, note where the trunk leaked, along the joint seams, 'thanks' to the large trim mounting holes at the base of the
rear glass ("back light" in Corp-Speak).

The leakage created some enclosed humidity, too, which surface corroded the parcel shelf area.






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baker53
Posted 2014-05-29 7:12 PM (#442908 - in reply to #442885)
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Location: Klein, TX		Tail light assemblies ready for install after paint is done.





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Posted 2014-05-30 4:30 PM (#443053 - in reply to #442908)
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Location: Klein, TX		Good day today. Received a bunch of parts from Gary Goers and a anti-sway bar assembly from John of BigM. In addition to that the painter put on some base coat on the doors, trunk lid, hood and a few other parts. So things are moving along.





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baker53
Posted 2014-06-03 12:33 PM (#443593 - in reply to #442908)
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Location: Klein, TX		Picked up the last of the stainless trim from the polisher this morning. Hopefully, the painter will be finished with the painting this week or next, then installation will start on all the chrome and stainless parts.







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sidesho_bob1961
Posted 2014-06-03 2:52 PM (#443602 - in reply to #425095)
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Location: Fleetwood, Pa		FYI....You forgot to paint the recessed area black between the tail light bezel and the surrounding trim, if you're trying to keep it stock, that is.......
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baker53
Posted 2014-06-03 3:23 PM (#443607 - in reply to #443602)
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sidesho_bob1961 - 2014-06-03 1:52 PM

FYI....You forgot to paint the recessed area black between the tail light bezel and the surrounding trim, if you're trying to keep it stock, that is.......


I'll check that out. When I took the parts off the car, I did not see the black painted area you are referencing.
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baker53
Posted 2014-06-03 3:50 PM (#443611 - in reply to #443602)
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sidesho_bob1961 - 2014-06-03 1:52 PM

FYI....You forgot to paint the recessed area black between the tail light bezel and the surrounding trim, if you're trying to keep it stock, that is.......


Hi, I checked out your comment with another Desoto guy who knows more about these Firesweep's than I will ever know and he said no paint in that area. You must be thinking of another car.
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Posted 2014-06-03 4:44 PM (#443613 - in reply to #425095)
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Location: Jamaica Plain, MA		Hey Bill! You're doing amazing work there. I'm getting there on my car, but you're lapping me I'm afraid. The stainless cowl vents were available from 57-59 for all MoPars except Imperial, I believe. It might have been unusual to see one on a Firesweep. They were standard trim for high line cars. They simply clip in the way your stock one does. You can change back at anytime. I think they go for $50-$100 or so. Pretty common. I don't have a lot of dress-up on my car, in fact it's de-trimmed to a degree, but I have one of these on it...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MOPAR-1960-CHRYSLER-IMPERIAL-COWL-SCREEN-AN...

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baker53
Posted 2014-06-03 5:28 PM (#443617 - in reply to #425095)
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Location: Klein, TX		Thanks for the info and the picture Jon. For now, I think I will keep the painted cowl. That is good to know stainless ones are available for it.
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Posted 2014-06-03 6:39 PM (#443633 - in reply to #443611)
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sidesho_bob1961 - 2014-06-03 1:52 PM

FYI....You forgot to paint the recessed area black between the tail light bezel and the surrounding trim, if you're trying to keep it stock, that is.......


Hi, I checked out your comment with another Desoto guy who knows more about these Firesweep's than I will ever know and he said no paint in that area. You must be thinking of another car.



I agree; there's just a shadow that is often cast in the valley between the two areas of higher chrome. Is that the area that is being referred to?

I didn't see any area on, or around the rear light chrome towers of my DeSoto that could have been easily painted with a black "stripe" as the assembly-line spray paint was a-flying, back in the day. Maybe another FL model?




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Posted 2014-06-03 6:57 PM (#443634 - in reply to #425095)
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baker53
Posted 2014-06-03 7:29 PM (#443637 - in reply to #425095)
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Location: Klein, TX		Hi Bob, Thanks for the thoughts on the car. I noticed you list a '51 Wraith in your signature block. I spent a lot of years restoring a '58 Cloud I. I could not afford the price of parts from RR so I had to send letters to parts sellers in Hemmings trying to get them to come down in price for a part I was wanting. Many did and I finally got it restored. I had it it in storage for many years and finally a physician in Houston approached me about selling it to him for his car collection.
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Posted 2014-06-03 8:41 PM (#443648 - in reply to #425095)
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I hope my 58 desoto comes together as quick as yours !
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Posted 2014-06-03 9:26 PM (#443656 - in reply to #443648)
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The Adventurer - 2014-06-03 7:41 PM

Doing a great Job Bill, love the colour of your car , and for how hard it is to get a good chrome plater these days you should be over the moon with their work !

I hope my 58 desoto comes together as quick as yours !


Thanks James, it has been a great time working on it. I was very fortunate to find one is such great condition. I had a Firesweep in '62 and this has been a real joy getting it back road-worthy again. You are so right about finding a good plater. I have heard numerous stories about lost parts and pot metal parts that were really pitiful when the owner got them back. This plater is very good at his craft and I'm glad he is close by.
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Posted 2014-06-04 6:47 AM (#443702 - in reply to #425095)
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Location: Fleetwood, Pa		All I know is that when I removed the tail lites from an unrestored 57 Firesweep the outer trims had back paint on them on that recessed surface........I have since sold the trims so I can't post a photo...although I may still have them on my computer from when I was selling them....I'll search for them....It appears as though this one is painted although most of the restored cars I found on line are not:

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Posted 2014-06-04 7:29 AM (#443705 - in reply to #425095)
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Location: New Castle PA		Hmmm. Interesting, Sideshow. I have NEVER seen that area painted. I have lots of those chrome surrounds (original, but in very sad shape) and none are painted. Are you sure the Sweep you pictured is "unrestored"? It's missing the pinchweld molding at the back edge of the quarterpanel, so it must have been removed for some reason.
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The Adventurer
Posted 2014-06-04 8:25 AM (#443707 - in reply to #425095)
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sidesho_bob1961
Posted 2014-06-04 9:53 AM (#443725 - in reply to #425095)
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Location: Fleetwood, Pa		No, I'm not aware the car pictured above is original. I never said it was.......read my sentence again ("It appears as though this one is painted although most of the restored cars I found on line are not"). What I stated was; The trims I removed and sold were off an "unrestored" car....

All I'm saying is: the chrome surrounds I had were pretty darn nice, so maybe that's why the black paint was still visible (which is also why they sold pretty darn fast)???? The black painted area was not entirely perfect (it was worn off at spots), but visible..... I'm sure if the surrounds are all pitted and/or corroded the black paint would be long gone too....

If you were to buy a 50 year old car and the paint is worn off the hood but not the roof, does that mean the hood was never painted??? Your logic is flawed....

Either way, he's doing a very nice job with the restoration....

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sidesho_bob1961
Posted 2014-06-04 10:07 AM (#443726 - in reply to #425095)
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Location: Fleetwood, Pa		Here's a 58 Detailed the same way??? And no, I didn't restore both of these cars... And yes, black paint wears off chrome surfaces rather easily....

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Posted 2014-06-04 12:12 PM (#443739 - in reply to #425095)
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Location: New Castle PA		No need to take an aggressive attitude, Sideshow, we are all in this to learn. If this area WAS painted black at the factory, someone will have to absolutely prove it to me with more than a couple of photos. I have seen hundreds of 1957 DeSotos, and never saw one painted that way. I'll attach a few pics of absolutely unrestored rear fins with zero sign of black paint, and a pic of unrestored tower trim. This is exactly how all of my extra trim pieces look -- not a stitch of primer or paint on them. You're right about paint not sticking well to chrome -- that's another reason why Mopar would not have done it, in my opinion.

I'll see if I can find more original pictures of taillights, perhaps in some of the factory literature. In any case, thank you for bringing this up. As I said, it's VERY interesting to me. I do disagree with you saying my logic is flawed, however. As the attorneys say, "there is a preponderance of evidence to the contrary". Sometimes the evidence is wrong, but until that's proven, I absolutely will not recommend anyone paint that area black.

Having said that, however, I will admit that it also makes no sense to me that some of the hood "wings" to the sides of the insignia may have been factory painted black on their back face (while others are painted argent). SO, I will leave the door open to your possibility of some cars being painted that way.



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Posted 2014-06-04 3:20 PM (#443753 - in reply to #425095)
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Location: Fleetwood, Pa		Hopefully I still have the photos on my at home computer. I'm wondering if it may have been a difference in suppliers of the trims?? Or maybe assembly plant variances?? I have seen photos such as the one below, which may have also been a pre-production photo??? All I know is contrary to popular belief, I've seen this on more than "one" 57/58 Desoto.....Sorry Ed, my sarcasam wasn't really directed towards you....

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Posted 2014-06-04 3:58 PM (#443762 - in reply to #443753)
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Posted 2014-06-04 4:22 PM (#443764 - in reply to #425095)
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Location: bishop, ca		Short answer is: factory (prototype) photos, and air-brushed advertising illustrations, are virtually completely
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The examples are "endless".....

[ BTW, this vert, which is seen in a lot of advertising, has a 1957 dashboard (rear-view mirror) in it]

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Posted 2014-06-04 7:46 PM (#443792 - in reply to #425095)
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Posted 2014-06-06 1:45 PM (#443992 - in reply to #443792)
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FIN ME
Posted 2014-06-07 10:42 AM (#444104 - in reply to #425095)
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Jeepers, Bill...can ya hurry things up a little?

Amazing progress, as always! Things are looking great!

You are definitely going to get your car back on the road before I do, and I've been working on things for over a year now!

Impressive!

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Posted 2014-06-07 2:07 PM (#444117 - in reply to #444104)
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Location: Klein, TX		Thanks Rosy, I thought I would not need to replate the front end pot metal pieces, but after looking at them up against the newly plated and polished parts I had to bite the bullet. I took those parts plus the molding that surrounds the interior of the windshield to the plating shop this morning. So the bleeding has not stopped. BTW, if anyone happens to have a great condition plastic insert for the front hood molding, please let me know. Mine is OK, but has some cracks in it.







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Posted 2014-06-07 7:04 PM (#444141 - in reply to #444117)
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Just curious how long your paint guy waited between applying the final primer coat and when he layed down the base color coat. When I had my Plymouth painted, my painter insisted on two weeks between the two coats, just to ensure that all the solvents had evaporated.

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baker53
Posted 2014-06-07 7:13 PM (#444143 - in reply to #444141)
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ronbo97 - 2014-06-07 6:04 PM

Just curious how long your paint guy waited between applying the final primer coat and when he layed down the base color coat. When I had my Plymouth painted, my painter insisted on two weeks between the two coats, just to ensure that all the solvents had evaporated.

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I would guess about a week to ten days. He cooks the primer and paint out in the hot Texas sun. He is the painter and I DO NOT tell him anything. I have painted a number of cars, but he knows more about the process than I ever will and his completed jobs are proof of that. I have no issues whatsoever on how he does his work. He is the professional and I am at best a novice which I would guess most of us on this FL are.
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Posted 2014-06-07 10:28 PM (#444159 - in reply to #444143)
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baker53 - 2014-06-07 7:13 PM I would guess about a week to ten days. He cooks the primer and paint out in the hot Texas sun. He is the painter and I DO NOT tell him anything. I have painted a number of cars, but he knows more about the process than I ever will and his completed jobs are proof of that. I have no issues whatsoever on how he does his work. He is the professional and I am at best a novice which I would guess most of us on this FL are.

That's probably plenty in that hot, dry weather.

Looking forward to seeing it back together. You're going to have a beautiful car.

Ron

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FIN ME
Posted 2014-06-08 8:40 AM (#444197 - in reply to #444117)
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baker53 - 2014-06-07 2:07 PM

...BTW, if anyone happens to have a great condition plastic insert for the front hood molding, please let me know.



The bad news is that those plastic inserts are IMPOSSIBLE to find in better condition than the one that you already have.

The good news is that I just happen to have an extra, new, reproduction, plastic insert that was sold to me as a "second", but it looks darn good-enough to me.

It is not perfect, but it appears that it was well made.

That plastic insert from your car is one of the best original, Firesweep inserts that I have ever seen! (BTW, you might already know this, but they are smaller than the inserts for the other '57 Desoto models.)



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Posted 2014-06-08 12:14 PM (#444215 - in reply to #444197)
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FIN ME - 2014-06-08 7:40 AM

baker53 - 2014-06-07 2:07 PM

...BTW, if anyone happens to have a great condition plastic insert for the front hood molding, please let me know.



The bad news is that those plastic inserts are IMPOSSIBLE to find in better condition than the one that you already have.

The good news is that I just happen to have an extra, new, reproduction, plastic insert that was sold to me as a "second", but it looks darn good-enough to me.

It is not perfect, but it appears that it was well made.

That plastic insert from your car is one of the best original, Firesweep inserts that I have ever seen! (BTW, you might already know this, but they are smaller than the inserts for the other '57 Desoto models.)

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Hi Rosy, I did not know that tidbit about the '57 Firesweep plastic inserts. I will send you an e-mail in a bit about the spare insert you have.

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d500neil
Posted 2014-06-08 3:31 PM (#444229 - in reply to #444215)
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Location: bishop, ca		Ok; he's a pro-painter, but has he ever tried to re-install painted FWDLK body panels, that do not WANT to align themselves perfectly (or;
is he merely the 'painter')?

Our cars' body panels go together like a Rubik's Cube....that's missing some 'cubes' on it.

He would be well advised to have the hood, trunk and doors all be perfectly (as good-as-possible!) installed and aligned before he paints
the body and fenders....just like the factory did the job (poorly...) before the paint was applied.





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