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Expert Posts: 2788     Location: USA - KY |  I took my 1957 DeSoto Firesweep Sportsman (2-door, hardtop) off the road last June. Work on the car has slowly progressed since. After saving some dough for three years, I decided to just bite the bullet and get all of the "improvements" over with in one go, if I could. I'm adding original power steering and power brakes systems, a new "Vintage Air" under-dash AC system, an original pattern "Code 516" upholstery, paint, radial tires, a hidden sound system, dual rear antennas, a whole boatload of trim, and other assorted extras. (I'm a self-admitted Bling Junkie, so whaddyagointodo?) Don't worry, it's not going to be a "Trailer Queen"; I love driving the car way too much for that. Although the changes that I'm making won't be "original" to my car, most of them will be "correct" for a 1957 Firesweep, even if it isn't MY particular Firesweep. And some items will not be originally "correct" such as the swivel seats, AC, under-car exhaust, dual master cylinder, radial tires, brake light switch, and headliner. But, I'm trying! Unfortunately, I am NOWHERE nearly as talented as most of you guys, so I'm having to hire others to perform most of the work for me. I get to work on some of the little tasks, but sometimes I think that the guys at the shop give me those little jobs just to keep me out from underfoot. I'm afraid that my talents don't come anywhere close to matching my raging enthusiasm. Apparently, my main job is to work like a fiend to pay for it all!  I am also the official "Researcher" for all of the projects. I really enjoy that part of the resto. My car was in great shape when I bought it in 2011. The previous owner had taken such good care of his beloved DeSoto for over twenty years, and now it's my turn to continue with the improvements that he had in mind for the car. He had the engine and tranny professionally rebuilt already, so that was a bonus. The car was originally black with white accents, back in '57. The original interior according to the cowl tag was "Code 564" (red and taupe vinyl/fabric). No one knows when the swivel seats were installed. As far as we can tell, the skirts were dealer installed in '57. The FL and NDC members have been such a great help during the process, so thanks to all! BTW...I'm having the time of my life! Not great photos, but hopefully good enough to get the idea. I'll eventually be adding more photos. . 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Expert Posts: 2788 Location: USA - KY | Thanks, to my Swedish friends! Exterior is still in primer for the most part. I'm waiting for the engine work to be closer to being finished prior to painting. But here's some more shots: . (EARLIER.IN.2013.jpg) (EARLIER.IN.2013.B.jpg) (DASH.OUT.jpg) (ENGINE.IN.PROGRESS.jpg) (ENGINE.IN.PROGRESS2.jpg) (ENGINE.IN.PROGRESS3.jpg) (ENGINE.IN.PROGRESS4.jpg) (NEW.PAINT.jpg) (STARTING.ENGINE.FIT2.jpg) (STARTING.ENGINE.FIT.jpg) (TRUNK.PAINT.jpg) (BACK.FROM.THE.BLOCKERS.jpg) (BACK.FROM.THE.BLOCKERS2.jpg) (OLD.HEADLINER.jpg) (OLD.HEADLINER2.jpg) Attachments ---------------- EARLIER.IN.2013.jpg (233KB - 333 downloads) EARLIER.IN.2013.B.jpg (222KB - 359 downloads) DASH.OUT.jpg (195KB - 355 downloads) ENGINE.IN.PROGRESS.jpg (212KB - 349 downloads) ENGINE.IN.PROGRESS2.jpg (204KB - 343 downloads) ENGINE.IN.PROGRESS3.jpg (204KB - 342 downloads) ENGINE.IN.PROGRESS4.jpg (242KB - 343 downloads) NEW.PAINT.jpg (136KB - 329 downloads) STARTING.ENGINE.FIT2.jpg (194KB - 337 downloads) STARTING.ENGINE.FIT.jpg (223KB - 343 downloads) TRUNK.PAINT.jpg (180KB - 366 downloads) BACK.FROM.THE.BLOCKERS.jpg (183KB - 354 downloads) BACK.FROM.THE.BLOCKERS2.jpg (150KB - 340 downloads) OLD.HEADLINER.jpg (209KB - 344 downloads) OLD.HEADLINER2.jpg (146KB - 335 downloads) | ||
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Expert Posts: 2788 Location: USA - KY | fenix - 2014-04-13 12:40 PM In a word, WOW!! Thanks, fenix! It's been a real journey. I've been driving the poor painter crazy, "...paint that bolt, but leave that one bare...paint that little spring blue, but paint the big ones red...strip the paint off that bracket...", and on and on and on with the details! I think that by now, he's entirely lost the will to live. | ||
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Expert Posts: 2788 Location: USA - KY | wizard - 2014-04-13 1:04 PM Looks really like the car has a steady good progress Rosy - keep it up and keep us posted. Is the ARC record changer working? Thanks, wizard! I got the ARC from a super nifty, fellow FL member. It had been over-hauled mechanically, and re-chromed as well. Good thing the car has a wide dash for both the under-dash AC unit, and the ARC record changer.  BTW - the photo above is not the ARC that I have, just a photo of one that looks just like it, except the one I have has "perfect" chrome. Edited by FIN ME 2014-04-13 1:19 PM | ||
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Expert Posts: 2788 Location: USA - KY | Here's my concept drawing of how my car should look when it's all done - as best as I can manage using a computer to alter an original ad from 1957. . Edited by FIN ME 2014-04-13 1:31 PM (ROSYSCAR.jpg) Attachments ---------------- ROSYSCAR.jpg (65KB - 329 downloads) | ||
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Expert Posts: 2788 Location: USA - KY | tnlowrider - 2014-04-13 1:45 PM Rosy, that looks WONDERFUL! It's a lot of hard work and headache but that Firesweep looks awesome! I'm glad you kept the swivel seat. The upholstery looks great on it! I wish mine was this far along. Thanks for giving us an update!!! And thanks for providing me with the PS, PB's and steering wheel and column, Tim! Couldn't have done it without ya! | ||
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Expert Posts: 2788 Location: USA - KY | oldwood - 2014-04-13 1:58 PM The "Ole Bling Mo-chine", Nice !!! LOL - yep, my goal is, that it can be seen from outer space! | ||
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Member Posts: 34 Location: nova scotia | Looks great Rosy Nearly the same paint as my 59. Will try to post Pict of my rad shroud. Will we see you in Ft Wayne? Barrie (GetAttachment[7].jpg) (GetAttachment[7].jpg) Attachments ---------------- GetAttachment[7].jpg (9KB - 313 downloads) GetAttachment[7].jpg (9KB - 345 downloads) | ||
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Expert Posts: 2788 Location: USA - KY | Thanks, guys, for all of the nice comments! It's a work in progress but hopefully my car will be all done within a few months, and then I can enjoy driving it this summer. I've missed driving the car a LOT. | ||
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Expert Posts: 2788 Location: USA - KY | d500neil - 2014-04-14 4:48 PM Rosy, if the driver's door A-post area hasn't already been pre-painted: the VIN tag is very (TOO, actually...) easy to pop off from the dog leg pillar. I can be easily re-positioned after the pillar is painted, and can be epoxied back onto that pillar. Good advice, Neil! The VIN tag and cowl tag were both removed and preserved for reinstallation after painting. Even though my cowl tag "numbers" won't match anymore, it's still nice to have the original tags in place. Thank you for the very nice comments, guys! It took FOREVER for me to decide what colour to paint the car. I must have changed my mind twelve times! I love black cars, but I got worn out trying to keep that black paint looking its best. So I'll paint the roof and sweep black, as a nod to the car's original black paint, and the body will be painted using a 1957-only, Firesweep-only (as far as DeSotos go) colour called "Mist Green". (It might have been used on Dodges - no one seems to really know for sure.) I have never seen a Desoto painted using "Mist Green" before, either on the body, or on the roof and sweep. I've seen some photos of DeSotos that were painted in a colour that was close, but no cigar...usually "Willow Green", a '58 colour. Documentation that I've found seems to indicate that "Mist Green" was used for '57 Firesweeps that were painted in one, solid colour, and without the accent colours on the roof and sweep. But I am now convinced, as are many "older" car fellas, that you could order a 1957 Mopar in any darn colour combo that you wished to, using any of the colours available that year for that model. Could be wrong, but what the heck. Anyway, "Mist Green" seems to be one rare colour for '57 'Sweeps as far as I can tell after three years of trying to find one painted that colour. I have found none. I asked Chrysler if they had any info regarding paint colours statistics, but they do not for '57 Firesweeps. I have a vintage, 1957 DeSoto Dealer's Fabric/Vinyl/Paint sample book that has huge paint chips, and my painter matched the paint very well indeed to the sample. I'm really liking the colour, esp. with the black accents. It looks a little less "there" in sunlight, which calms the green down a tad. Glad other folk's are liking it too - I respect youz-guyz' opinions! Edited by FIN ME 2014-04-16 5:43 PM | ||
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Expert Posts: 2788 Location: USA - KY | Thanks, lownslow! firedome - that's so cool! I wonder if that old geezer is still driving his "Mist Green" car?! | ||
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Expert Posts: 2788 Location: USA - KY | Thanks, LD3 Greg! I wish you still had that car. It sounds great! You're right about the "offers". I once had a guy offer to swap me his two 1960's and early 1970's (somewhere) Mustangs for my DeSoto. I gracefully declined. I've seen the "Misty Green" Dodge paint colour that you mentioned, and it is DARN close to the "Mist Green". It indeed might have been the same colour, back in the day. The two colours look slightly different according to the vintage paint chips and actual paint samples that I've collected, BUT I hasten to say that those vintage paint chips come in a wide range of condition - some are more faded than others, some are quite yellowed with age, some have darkened by being kept in damp surroundings, and some are outright dirty and stained. So it can be difficult to compare paint chip to paint chip sometimes. I've also noticed a green paint on some late 40's-early 50's (?) DeSotos that looks similar, but that colour looks more "seafoamy" to me, at least from the photos I've seen. I wish I could have found a Firesweep that still had its original "Mist Green" paint in place. If I could have nabbed a sample of the original paint from a protected area on such a car, I could have likely matched the new paint for my car exactly. I think I have a really good match for the original colour with the paint that I'm putting on my car now, but I might never really know for sure. Plus, my car is going to have a highly polished finish, unlike the cars in 1957, so that alone might alter the colour's appearance somewhat. Of course, there are paint companies out there that will supply "Mist Green" paint, but several that sent us samples missed the mark by a mile. I don't know where they get their colours sometimes. Maybe they just let a computer do the matching, which isn't always the best way to go. If I hadn't had that huge, original paint chip from my old dealer's paint book, I might have just gone with one of those colours, not realizing that what the paint company was sending me was in no way the correct colour. The painter at my shop was also a great help when it came to finding the right colour. He didn't lose patience with my fussiness. He rocks! I've done my best to match the original "Mist Green" paint, but apparently no other '57 Firesweeps that were painted that colour originally are still in existence (as far as I know!) to confirm that I have. And even if they were in existence, their paint might now be faded or aged to an extent where it was no longer useful when it came to matching the colour. And so many original paint chips have been so altered by the ravages of time that few of them are of any real use. So, I just had to take my best stab at it. You're sure right about the bright work. It will surround all of the areas on the car that will be painted black, and it will make the black paint really pop, which will ground and anchor that "slap happy" pastel, green paint. The bright work has a natural blue cast to it, and the black paint being used on my car really has a lot of very dark blue base paint in it, and blue (being the complementary colour of orange) will bring out the yellow of the new green paint, and calm the blue in the green paint. So the green paint will look less "vividly green" over all once the work on the car is all done. That's just my old interior designer colour theory gibberish, but I think it will work. LOL Anyway, thank you for the kind words of encouragement! | ||
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Expert Posts: 3967 Location: DFW, TX | FIN ME - 2014-04-13 12:12 PM Here's my concept drawing of how my car should look when it's all done - as best as I can manage using a computer to alter an original ad from 1957. . Rosy, I felt like I just had to help you out here... lol (57-DeSoto_Firesweep_Sprtsmn.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 57-DeSoto_Firesweep_Sprtsmn.jpg (411KB - 347 downloads) | ||
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Expert Posts: 2788 Location: USA - KY | That looks COOOOOL, 57burb! Thank you! Add half a ton of bling, and it's perfect! ' Now that I see your great drawing, I'm glad that I ordered new, reproduction rear light lenses. That green paint really makes those red lenses stand out! Looks FAB! I'm going to send my painter that pic for inspiration! Edited by FIN ME 2014-04-17 4:40 PM | ||
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Expert Posts: 2788 Location: USA - KY | Sounds pretty! Green and purple always seem to live well together if they are of similar tone/tint. The yellow in the green complements the purple, and the red in the purple complements the green. So they are two colours that seem to make each other pop but not in a jarring way, likely because the blue in both the green and purple ties the two colours together in a calming/cooling way, IMHO. Your bathroom sounds cool! As would a tri-colour DeSoto! BTW - I did ask Chrylser if any '57 DeSotos were originally factory painted using three paint colours, and they stated that they had, "no records showing any tri-coloured '57 DeSotos leaving the factory.". Oh well... . Edited by FIN ME 2014-04-18 6:08 PM | ||
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Expert Posts: 2788 Location: USA - KY | More photos - engine compartment is almost done. A bit more painting here and there, and the addition of a few more AC system hoses, some firewall rubber bits, and the new master cylinder, are among the finishing touches still needed. Those two high pipes coming off the top of the AC are not staying in that configuration. Sorry about the bad photos - still getting used to the new camera. . (ENGINECOMPART.AC.jpg) (ENGINECOMPART1.jpg) (ENGINECOMPART3.jpg) (ENGINECOMPART5.jpg) (ENGINECOMPART2.jpg) Attachments ---------------- ENGINECOMPART.AC.jpg (150KB - 319 downloads) ENGINECOMPART1.jpg (164KB - 333 downloads) ENGINECOMPART3.jpg (150KB - 352 downloads) ENGINECOMPART5.jpg (188KB - 318 downloads) ENGINECOMPART2.jpg (173KB - 340 downloads) | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 873 Location: ALABAMA, HEART OF DIXIE | FIN ME - 2014-04-13 11:14 AMAlthough the changes that I'm making won't be "original" to my car, most of them will be "correct" for a 1957 Firesweep, even if it isn't MY particular Firesweep. And some items will not be originally "correct" such as the swivel seats, AC, under-car exhaust, dual master cylinder, radial tires, brake light switch, and headliner. But, I'm trying! :)Absolutly breathtaking....! I share your opinion of period correct but make it your own. My 61 Fury convertible will be all 61, but just a couple of additions and changes to suit me. ( I tried to order a new one .... was told they quit making Plymouths ....,especally 1961's).You don't see many surpentine belt driven generators ........ Nice job. | ||
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Expert Posts: 2788 Location: USA - KY | Thank you for the nice comments, guys and gals! Found another photo. I know, I know...they just keep on comin'! . (ENGINECOMPARTMENT8.jpg) Attachments ---------------- ENGINECOMPARTMENT8.jpg (187KB - 343 downloads) | ||
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